Not happy with the zeus thing

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

The previous name tied us to the other "Satanic" groups who couldn't be more dissimilar us in almost every way. In practice (meditation, ritual, ect) we have more in common with judaism than any of these "Satanist" groups, mainly because judaism stole old occult Pagan knowledge while modern "Satanism" is just a reactionary atheistic force against Christianity. So yeah, the confusion is kind of understandable. Perhaps it would have been better to have called it the Temple of Zeus or another Pagan name from the beginning rather than the Joy of Satan, as that would have made clear our seperation from these other groups. Starting the movement as a "Satanic" one may have been a mistake due to all the baggage "Satanism" has been given by the enemy over the past 2 millenia.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Satan was the central name of our Head God for over 20 years , and now it's just another minor name put in the list of our names for Zeus with the caveat that it is an enemy label. The shift caused shock, as we've seen in the past couple months. It's like living in a house for 20 years and then suddenly in a day the whole family is sent somehwere else, even if it's a better house. There was always going to be strong reactions, especially from those who strongly cling to the Satanic identity as defence mechanism against xianity. This is all the past now, I'm glad though that most understood clearly our Pagan heritage and what the JOS/TOZ was always about. It's about Godhood, not "devil worship".

 

[Hárbarðr]

Then are you saying joy of satan is not spiritual satanism or devil worship group

It was called "Spiritual Satanism", however it never claimed it was "devil worship".

HP Maxine chose the unique title "Spiritual Satanism" to differentiate itself from other types of Satanism that were based in Christianity. The JoS site always said that "Spiritual Satanism" is just a name for Ancient Paganism. It always was Pagan-based, not Christian-based. The JoS site always claimed that Satan and the Demons are no one else than our ancient Pagan Gods. It said Satan is the Sumerian God Enki multiple times.

That site still exists and you can read it. I have even provided excerpts from the Old Site where it clearly explains that. Here it is again:

Was the old Joy of Satan site mainstream "Satanism"?

I'm addressing here a group of people who aren't satisfied with the change to the Temple of Zeus because they believe it somehow taught mainstream Satanism (i.e. Satan being a dark god, part of xianity e.t.c.). and they disagree with the name Zeus because it is very "different" from that...

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I joined this occult on 2010 and reveals clear that we are devil worshipper and then now you introduce us another God, Zeus.

You are telling me that you have been here since 2010 and in all these 15 years you have never really read the Joy of Satan site? Because, like I said, the JoS site always said that it is ancient Paganism and that it doesn't want to be associated with Christian "Satanists". One would be mistaken only if he hasn't read it. Again click on my post above, I have given plenty of excerpts from the JoS site. which say exactly that.

As for me l don't believe in your Zeus things is nonsense to me. And l don't even want to know him at all

That means you were never a true Spiritual Satanist in the first place. If you want to believe in a Jewish/Christian devil then you are a reverse Christian/Jew and you did not belong in the old JoS, which denounced reverse Christians/Jews.

 

[Pan_Shaman]

Oy Vey muh feelings zeus isn't satan asdfaf

Grow up

 

[Aquarius]

Then are you saying joy of satan is not spiritual satanism or devil worship group. I joined this occult on 2010 and reveals clear that we are devil worshipper and then now you introduce us another God, Zeus. Its better to create two categories those who believe in God of yours, Zeus and us who believe in Satan. Now we have two different ways. This cause a great tension so please try by all the means to fix the problem. As for me l don't believe in your Zeus things is nonsense to me. And l don't even want to know him at all

Another one from 2010. Why is it always them that come complaining with 1 week old accounts? Lol

 

[Δυσδαιμόνα Διαμαντής]

 

[Wisdom_Seeker]

Why is it so hard to understand that Zeus (Perun in Slavic - my people) is another name for Satan? If you had actually done research by simply reading the website you would have known this easily, especially if you are one of those people from 2010 that Aquarius mentioned. Another reason for the change is the clear distinction of ourselves from the fake Satanists that repeat the enemy lies about our Gods.

Paganism and Satanism is linked through our ancestral Gods that the enemy religions teach people to despise and slander in the name of an alien entity that sees us as enemies while advocating for our destruction. In fact, in the enemy scripture, the parasitic Jews and their Christard lackeys are taught to distance themselves from the pagan Gods out of respect for the aforementioned alien entity that desires our destruction, and the destruction of Christards and Mudslimes who continue to worship Jews and their entity - despite the immense hatred the later have for the former.

 

[Hárbarðr]

Why is it so hard to understand that Zeus (Perun in Slavic - my people) is another name for Satan?

Even of Satan weren't Zeus, I'm pretty sure nobody here who read and knew what the JoS teaches would have a major problem with it because Zeus would still be a God on our side. I wouldn't even mind if it was changed to "Temple of Thoth" or "Temple of Athena" because both were ancient Gods on our side. The only reason one would react this way (like "I don't know Zeus and I don't want to know him at all") would be if one is a Christian "Satanist". He even used the term "devil worshipper", so there you have it.