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MMA does not help, it is a total fighting style with no spiritual component that I am aware of, unless you can find an individual instructor that can work some spiritual training into the curriculum. It is a great physical workout and can be used with your spiritual training, but you will have to combine them yourself. There are many good martial art styles that do have a strong spiritual component built into the system if that is what you are looking for.
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Which martial art is the most spiritual for us?
I'm actually going to disagree with the reply above me. Any time you spend trying to master the strength and energy of your own body is a good thing. id say there is many spiritual benifits that would come from mma training.....
HOWEVER! Learning MMA to exact revenge on someone, to bully someone, or just watching MMA in general probably has no spiritual insight.
Hail Satan!
J. Watar
HOWEVER! Learning MMA to exact revenge on someone, to bully someone, or just watching MMA in general probably has no spiritual insight.
Hail Satan!
J. Watar
Just do not mistake it, for a vaild Self-Defense path. Always understand the difference between sport and the other.
From: Sven <belthazorthemighty@...
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Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 2:43:56 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
I figured as much. I would love to fight anyway, but I'm still much more interested in the esoteric side of martial arts. I've even contemplated going to China and find a teacher, but I hear the don't teach outsiders as well as they do their own.
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Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 2:43:56 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
I figured as much. I would love to fight anyway, but I'm still much more interested in the esoteric side of martial arts. I've even contemplated going to China and find a teacher, but I hear the don't teach outsiders as well as they do their own.
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I would also suggest that you ask your guardian demon/ess to bring the best martial arts teacher and style to you. They will help you find the correct path. This is a hard question to answer since there are so many variables involved, but your guardians want you to have what is the highest and best for you so they will bring the best to you if you ask them.
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HP Maxine posted on this years ago, in the Lost Book of Enki there is an ancient fighting match translated that was between two Annunaki princes for the right to be a king, it involved striking, grappling, takedowns and submissions. The Pankration of Sparta was clearly MMA in the sense that it involved punches, kicks, sweeps, reaps, takedowns, breakdowns, submissions, and in it's combat form "snap no tap" moves. Moves that break bones or tear tendons in a second or less after they are put on the opponent.
It seems that most "traditional" martial arts are bullshit in that they lack ground or striking and are only "hard" or "soft" styles. The advent of MMA was a return to real martial arts, to the way martial arts were done in Sumer, Eqypt, greece, Sparta, Rome , etc. Submission grappling and Wrestling has an easily documented history of over 5000 years. The Annunaki brought an advanced, well rounded martial arts system with them and like all they brought it became corrupted over the years. MMA has dominated other styles in the cage, clearly striking, throws and takedowns and submissions are all important.
In 1908 Guchin Funikoshi, a pencil necked, VERY arrogant japanese man announced to the world that he had "perfected the art of empty hand fighting," he called this "karate-do." His pupils, past and current cannot survive the cage today. MMA dominates them all. As for a spiritual component, most "spiritual" aspects of karate, Tae Kwon do, judo, etc have been corrupted with the xtian mind virus. I am a bouncer at two clubs right now, and worked for 15 years in a supermax prison, the reality is that the well rounded style that the Annunaki brought with them is still superior, we humans just had to find our way back to it.
Dante
It seems that most "traditional" martial arts are bullshit in that they lack ground or striking and are only "hard" or "soft" styles. The advent of MMA was a return to real martial arts, to the way martial arts were done in Sumer, Eqypt, greece, Sparta, Rome , etc. Submission grappling and Wrestling has an easily documented history of over 5000 years. The Annunaki brought an advanced, well rounded martial arts system with them and like all they brought it became corrupted over the years. MMA has dominated other styles in the cage, clearly striking, throws and takedowns and submissions are all important.
In 1908 Guchin Funikoshi, a pencil necked, VERY arrogant japanese man announced to the world that he had "perfected the art of empty hand fighting," he called this "karate-do." His pupils, past and current cannot survive the cage today. MMA dominates them all. As for a spiritual component, most "spiritual" aspects of karate, Tae Kwon do, judo, etc have been corrupted with the xtian mind virus. I am a bouncer at two clubs right now, and worked for 15 years in a supermax prison, the reality is that the well rounded style that the Annunaki brought with them is still superior, we humans just had to find our way back to it.
Dante
Do you understand the difference between SD and MMA?
From: Sven <belthazorthemighty@...
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Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 1:07:59 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
I only brought this up because I was offered to sign up at an mma dojo by someone who would hook me up. Don, what martial arts would you recommend? and what are your views on Bruce Lee?
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Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 1:07:59 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
I only brought this up because I was offered to sign up at an mma dojo by someone who would hook me up. Don, what martial arts would you recommend? and what are your views on Bruce Lee?
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People who know nothing about MMA usually make this statement. As if MMA and self defense are somehow not related. Self defense involves knowing the ground and striking and the tactics of both. If you go to the Executive Security International (The harvard of bodyguard schools) website and look at their classes you will see a class on submissions for bodyguards taught by a gracie family member. over 90 percent of all fights end on the ground and you had better know what do do if you end up there. If facing a group you had better know how to keep your feet under you and move well. I bounce at two clubs right now and I watched an MMA fighter (amature) take on and handle several mexican gang members very easily. He broke one guys arm. Sport MMA is dangerous in and of itself with MMA fighters getting broken arms, backs etc. When you take into account the tactics of "snap no tap" moves, vicious throws, and other MMA tactics not used in the cage, it gets much more dangerous. Mixed martial Arts are just that, mixed. This does not mean sport only moves. Neck cranks for example are deadly and fast. That is only one example. there are standing kimoras and top wrist locks that take only a second and your tendons or shoulder are toast. MMA has it's street applications and tactics not used in the cage, MMA is not "just" for sport, it is a philosophy of "what works" and finding a path back to wholeness within the martial arts. Most "self defense" martial arts are impractical, don't prepare you for sucker punches, etc. With krav magda for example the jews just ripped off stuff and called it their own, it has a lot to be desired. Aikido is a joke as is traditional karate and tae kwon do, thus their poor showing within the cage. If you can strike, throw, move well, excape submission and do submissions especially the MMA not allowed in a cage like the snap no tap moves you are in good shape self defense wise.
Check out www.scientificwrestling.com or www.catchwrestle.com.
You will be pleasently suprized. Plus Pankration style mixed martial arts were not considered "mixed" in ancient sumer and other places, it was considered normal to know striking, ground, throws, takedowns, movement, and brutal chokes and submissions. In The Lost Book of EnKi two Annunaki princes engaged in this type of combat to determine status. This type of whole martial art is an Annunaki gift.
Hail Satan!
Dante
Check out www.scientificwrestling.com or www.catchwrestle.com.
You will be pleasently suprized. Plus Pankration style mixed martial arts were not considered "mixed" in ancient sumer and other places, it was considered normal to know striking, ground, throws, takedowns, movement, and brutal chokes and submissions. In The Lost Book of EnKi two Annunaki princes engaged in this type of combat to determine status. This type of whole martial art is an Annunaki gift.
Hail Satan!
Dante
I never mentioned TMA, I mentioned SD. So the comments on TMA are moot here. I'am not people, a few anecdotal stories aside. MMA is designed for sport application, it takes years of training and experience it's a profession. SD can be learned in a weekend seminar and then the principals just worked on over time. When I was in the military most hand to hand courses where not very long. Mainly for this reason. Much of MMA is not very application based for SD if I need to teach a middle aged out of shape lady how to defend herself from a rapist. I need a different set of tools. Then a 200 pound profession bouncer would need. Granted it does have carry over as you mention which I never denied. One is a dedicated spot athletes profession such as boxers had to go thought. One is for the general populace to deal with a wide variety of situations outside of a ring environment. How is BBJ going to help deal with a multi attacker situation? etc Body Guards are a profession group they have a force level system they have to adhere to. They are not average joe geting a knife stuck in his face on his way from the ATM. Also I don't count how to beat on white and blue collar drunks MMA style as SD. Which is much of Bas Ruttens "SD" system I have seen. Since you like anecdotal examples, there was an English MMA Champ, who died several times on the way to the hospital because he was stabbed in the heart during a fight outside a club with some locals. He was never trained in situational awareness so he never even had the state of mind to know how to or think of looking for a knife or the signs of a hidden one in the hands or elsewhere. Another a trained fellow was choking another from a mounted postion in cross choke, the guy getting the choking pulled a buck out of his pocket and half gutted the other to death. Man the tool using ape. What does being a MMA champ mean if one guy sticks you in the back when his buddy distacted you in a normal conversation. Does MMA even teach verbal descalation, do they teach psychology of different attacks, how fights start way before the physical, how to E&E how to deal with the Police after the facts, local laws on SD, reality of the court systems.etc Two different enivornments that while there is some carry over, not to the level of an identical one. It's the differences that mean everything here.
From: heathendante <heathendante@...
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Sent: Wed, October 6, 2010 10:50:18 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
People who know nothing about MMA usually make this statement. As if MMA and self defense are somehow not related. Self defense involves knowing the ground and striking and the tactics of both. If you go to the Executive Security International (The harvard of bodyguard schools) website and look at their classes you will see a class on submissions for bodyguards taught by a gracie family member. over 90 percent of all fights end on the ground and you had better know what do do if you end up there. If facing a group you had better know how to keep your feet under you and move well. I bounce at two clubs right now and I watched an MMA fighter (amature) take on and handle several mexican gang members very easily. He broke one guys arm. Sport MMA is dangerous in and of itself with MMA fighters getting broken arms, backs etc. When you take into account the tactics of "snap no tap" moves, vicious throws, and other MMA tactics not used in the cage, it gets much more dangerous. Mixed martial Arts are just that, mixed. This does not mean sport only moves. Neck cranks for example are deadly and fast. That is only one example. there are standing kimoras and top wrist locks that take only a second and your tendons or shoulder are toast. MMA has it's street applications and tactics not used in the cage, MMA is not "just" for sport, it is a philosophy of "what works" and finding a path back to wholeness within the martial arts. Most "self defense" martial arts are impractical, don't prepare you for sucker punches, etc. With krav magda for example the jews just ripped off stuff and called it their own, it has a lot to be desired. Aikido is a joke as is traditional karate and tae kwon do, thus their poor showing within the cage. If you can strike, throw, move well, excape submission and do submissions especially the MMA not allowed in a cage like the snap no tap moves you are in good shape self defense wise.
Check out www.scientificwrestling.com or www.catchwrestle.com.
You will be pleasently suprized. Plus Pankration style mixed martial arts were not considered "mixed" in ancient sumer and other places, it was considered normal to know striking, ground, throws, takedowns, movement, and brutal chokes and submissions. In The Lost Book of EnKi two Annunaki princes engaged in this type of combat to determine status. This type of whole martial art is an Annunaki gift.
Hail Satan!
Dante
From: heathendante <heathendante@...
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Sent: Wed, October 6, 2010 10:50:18 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
People who know nothing about MMA usually make this statement. As if MMA and self defense are somehow not related. Self defense involves knowing the ground and striking and the tactics of both. If you go to the Executive Security International (The harvard of bodyguard schools) website and look at their classes you will see a class on submissions for bodyguards taught by a gracie family member. over 90 percent of all fights end on the ground and you had better know what do do if you end up there. If facing a group you had better know how to keep your feet under you and move well. I bounce at two clubs right now and I watched an MMA fighter (amature) take on and handle several mexican gang members very easily. He broke one guys arm. Sport MMA is dangerous in and of itself with MMA fighters getting broken arms, backs etc. When you take into account the tactics of "snap no tap" moves, vicious throws, and other MMA tactics not used in the cage, it gets much more dangerous. Mixed martial Arts are just that, mixed. This does not mean sport only moves. Neck cranks for example are deadly and fast. That is only one example. there are standing kimoras and top wrist locks that take only a second and your tendons or shoulder are toast. MMA has it's street applications and tactics not used in the cage, MMA is not "just" for sport, it is a philosophy of "what works" and finding a path back to wholeness within the martial arts. Most "self defense" martial arts are impractical, don't prepare you for sucker punches, etc. With krav magda for example the jews just ripped off stuff and called it their own, it has a lot to be desired. Aikido is a joke as is traditional karate and tae kwon do, thus their poor showing within the cage. If you can strike, throw, move well, excape submission and do submissions especially the MMA not allowed in a cage like the snap no tap moves you are in good shape self defense wise.
Check out www.scientificwrestling.com or www.catchwrestle.com.
You will be pleasently suprized. Plus Pankration style mixed martial arts were not considered "mixed" in ancient sumer and other places, it was considered normal to know striking, ground, throws, takedowns, movement, and brutal chokes and submissions. In The Lost Book of EnKi two Annunaki princes engaged in this type of combat to determine status. This type of whole martial art is an Annunaki gift.
Hail Satan!
Dante
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Two different paradigms even as illustrated by your point of focus. Wanting to put them into one is a square peg in a round role.
From: dante kun <heathendante@...
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Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 1:43:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
<td vAl[/IMG] I think you missed the part of my post where I posted on non cage apps. MMA is just studying a variety of martial arts applications. MMA is most definitly NOT for sport only. As I stated there are "snap no tap moves" footwork, striking, etc. Many people study it for sport but it has applications WAY beyond sport. The incedents you posted on seem to be people who did not go to the ground or keep their feet when it's most needed tacticly. Striking from the closest point, knowing you can move faster foward than an attacker can move backwards, attacking the vision, breathing, balance, these are good MMA concepts that are ready made for self defence. I never posted on BJJ which I think is a rip off of the TMA of pankration/catch wrestling. Most TMA's are a joke. Part of self defense is being in shape, at least the best shape you can be in. If you get put in a rear naked you had better know an escape, thats all I am saying. Fighting, IN or OUT of a cage in any situation the more tools you have in your tool chest the better. as for military martial arts , they generally suck. I did 6 years myself. My daughter at 16 years old was a state and national women's freestyle wrestling champ. She was playing around on the mat with her home on leave marine boyfriend. He got aggressive and she armbarred him pretty easily. he was so ashamed he broke up with her a day later.lol. I don't see us in disagreement really, there are just some MMA concepts that you thought were "cage only" concepts, and MMA tools you may be unaware of. For example, as a submission coach for a local team, we do a half hour cool down every practice by practicing street tactics at the end of practice. Not all MMA is BJJ. We train to beat BJJ and all TMA's. Remember, MMA is standup striking, kicks, knees, elbows, headbutting, palm strikes, open and closed hand, as well as throws and takedowns and nasty submissions. For the cage we teach submissions, for the street it's breaks, and neck cranks, and crushed throats, etc. There are a lot of tools to be used. We also teach our fighters to assume EVERYONE is armed. I myself have survived and won a knife attack. As for self defense, believe me, bouncers have to protect themselves many times, not just from drunks, we face angry groups, gang members out to prove themselves, and even begining MMA fighters with a couple of fights under their belts out to be rowdy. lol! I know a lot more about SD than any weekend course. Bodyguards are very much into SD as well, threat recognition, facial recognition, body language, micro expressions, etc. I am a graduate of ESI with a black belt in a TMA, as well as a lot of weekend clinics etc. Self defense and Mixed Martial Arts go hand in hand with me. As does weapons training. In closing I think we are better able to protect ourselves and our loved ones if we study a Variety of sources and use what HP Maxine always recommends, personal experience. The original martial art, brought to this world via the Annunaki was the art that spawned Pankration and other arts that included ground, standup, and everything you see in todays cage fighting. A well rounded MMA person is closest to this art I believe. The BJJ guys are almost all ground, that is just as unbalanced as all standup. Balance is what we are after. For me the mat and the cage are almost religious, in that I am truly seeking the original art brought by the Annunaki. SD in and of itself is also limited in scope and cannot hope to prepare one for everything one may encounter. Studying from a wide variety of sources (sources watered down from the original) and finding "what works" and ignoring the useless, is a pretty good idea. Hand in hand with this is watching our weight, training, meditating, and working with our GD's.
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Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 1:43:15 PM
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just though id add in my thoughts on this subject. my buddy jon has been in ninjitsu/ninjutsu (says spelling doesnt matter) for over 10 years. According to him, all those different martial arts are on a "scale" as to what danger each poses. ninjitsu, brazilian jujistu, and somethin else, think it started with an "m" were on the top. tae kwon do was mediocre, and american style karate was crap, as well as kickboxing. He has shown me a few things, and from what i have seen, ninjitsu works. There is pretty much a counter for everything.
TMA and SD are just pale shadows of the true combat forms of the Annuki. So is BJJ and even sport MMA. The various forms of wrestling based combat, to include Pankration are traceable back to Sumer and India. But even these are watered down versions of the Annunaki originals I bet. fat, old, and weak people will have a hard time defending themselves regardless of a weekend seminar. Satanism is about getting stronger physically, psychologicly, and spiritually. I think learning from a variety of martial arts, using personal experience and success as a guide, fitness and meditation training is the way to go, long term. There are no short cuts. Hail Satan! Dante
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I don't believe in the Annuanki martial art tales, from sitchin. One Nibru is Juptier and two I doubt a race of psychically advanced beings who fight with such psychic ability, need to punch or kick anyone. And I also doubt a super intelligent race would place the fate of their planet and people in the hands of a royal cage fight to chose a King. That is backwards on many levels. It's probably when humans over time lost identical ability physical fighting systems popped as adaption. Once again you simply have proven my point here. As for fat old people, you should train to fight as an old man cause you might be one, one day. How many MMA fighters are in the ring at 65? It's a sport profession.
From: dante kun <heathendante@...
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Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 4:34:23 PM
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<td vAl[/IMG] I would have to respectively disagree, no different paradigms at all. Self defense involves movement, awareness, and energy work. It involves focus, follow through, economy of motion, ground, standing, weapons, expedient and otherwise, offensive and defensive tactics, all things very present in the original combat forms the Annunaki trained their favorite humans in at the start.
TMA and SD are just pale shadows of the true combat forms of the Annuki. So is BJJ and even sport MMA. The various forms of wrestling based combat, to include Pankration are traceable back to Sumer and India. But even these are watered down versions of the Annunaki originals I bet. fat, old, and weak people will have a hard time defending themselves regardless of a weekend seminar. Satanism is about getting stronger physically, psychologicly, and spiritually. I think learning from a variety of martial arts, using personal experience and success as a guide, fitness and meditation training is the way to go, long term. There are no short cuts. Hail Satan! Dante
From: dante kun <heathendante@...
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Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 4:34:23 PM
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TMA and SD are just pale shadows of the true combat forms of the Annuki. So is BJJ and even sport MMA. The various forms of wrestling based combat, to include Pankration are traceable back to Sumer and India. But even these are watered down versions of the Annunaki originals I bet. fat, old, and weak people will have a hard time defending themselves regardless of a weekend seminar. Satanism is about getting stronger physically, psychologicly, and spiritually. I think learning from a variety of martial arts, using personal experience and success as a guide, fitness and meditation training is the way to go, long term. There are no short cuts. Hail Satan! Dante
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Well, I have been respectful in all my posts and I will continue to do so. That said, you need to do some research because the planet of the crossing is not jupiter. The summarian cylinder seals that contain info on martial contests were translated by other academics than just sitchin.
The Annunaki were passionate and very physical as well as mentally and spiritually advanced. When they visit again you will see this. They are body proud and love physicality. When Two princes are equal in abilities, the circle of honor is a good proving ground.
MMA is not a "sport profession" as you state. You only show your lack of knowledge in this area. just as HP Maxine and other HP's in the past have stated the inherent problems with yoga, we have to use disernment. Some of the yoga teachings have been corrupted, so we try different asanas and ideas untill we find and disern truth. So it is with martial arts, many are corrupted with xtian/jew mind virus right hand path ideas. MMA just represents the search for and integration of viable, workable, REAL tactics and training, not just BS. MMA is not JUST for a cage, it is a search for truth.
The idea that you can actually learn enough to be lethal in a weekend, regardless of physical ability is a jew led marketing device laced with bullshit, like all hebrew ideas. Krav magda is a prime example, with lots of gentiles losing their money to jew led "seminars" that are pure BS.
Like yoga asanas, martial arts and self defense take effort, time, and study. Satanism is a warrior religion and warrior training goes hand in hand with meditations etc. You don't get to sit on a couch and eat cheetos and still be a warrior. It does not work like that. My own practice of "MMA" includes Satanic meditation, bodyboarding surfing, yoga asanas as well as time on the mat and heavy bag and sparring sessions. I spent several hours in the pacific ocean today ( in a wetsuit) in really cold water, (I live on the oregon border) and it was totally related to my martial arts practice. You may not see that but thats ok. I do board pushups, dive under waves, and work out as well as play, it's VERY Satanic lol.
In Satanism we try to recognize self limiting thoughts and beliefs, beliefs on aging, physical abilities, self defense, philosophy, etc. I am 52 and people think i'm in my 30's. I still coach and do bodyguard work on the side as well as bounce. Satanism, it's meditations and martial arts, yoga, and philosophys have been good to me physically. My curent girlfriend is 20 years younger, as HP Maxine states LIVE GOOD, ENJOY LIFE.
Anyway My intent is not to insult you, it's to try and help you see another side to MMA other than just as a "sport." It's to show you that there is a very "Satanic side" to the study and integration of many different martial systems. It truly is a search for truth in training, an attempt to get past bullshit and lies and corrupted truths so inherent in TMA and SD today. It is merely searching through martial arts and martial arts philosophy with a "Satanic mindset" the same way we search through yoga and yogic philosophy for truth. We Satanists look for reality, test everything, and see no limitations where the herd sees only lack and limitation.
May Satan bless you on the Path
Hail Satan!
Dante
The Annunaki were passionate and very physical as well as mentally and spiritually advanced. When they visit again you will see this. They are body proud and love physicality. When Two princes are equal in abilities, the circle of honor is a good proving ground.
MMA is not a "sport profession" as you state. You only show your lack of knowledge in this area. just as HP Maxine and other HP's in the past have stated the inherent problems with yoga, we have to use disernment. Some of the yoga teachings have been corrupted, so we try different asanas and ideas untill we find and disern truth. So it is with martial arts, many are corrupted with xtian/jew mind virus right hand path ideas. MMA just represents the search for and integration of viable, workable, REAL tactics and training, not just BS. MMA is not JUST for a cage, it is a search for truth.
The idea that you can actually learn enough to be lethal in a weekend, regardless of physical ability is a jew led marketing device laced with bullshit, like all hebrew ideas. Krav magda is a prime example, with lots of gentiles losing their money to jew led "seminars" that are pure BS.
Like yoga asanas, martial arts and self defense take effort, time, and study. Satanism is a warrior religion and warrior training goes hand in hand with meditations etc. You don't get to sit on a couch and eat cheetos and still be a warrior. It does not work like that. My own practice of "MMA" includes Satanic meditation, bodyboarding surfing, yoga asanas as well as time on the mat and heavy bag and sparring sessions. I spent several hours in the pacific ocean today ( in a wetsuit) in really cold water, (I live on the oregon border) and it was totally related to my martial arts practice. You may not see that but thats ok. I do board pushups, dive under waves, and work out as well as play, it's VERY Satanic lol.
In Satanism we try to recognize self limiting thoughts and beliefs, beliefs on aging, physical abilities, self defense, philosophy, etc. I am 52 and people think i'm in my 30's. I still coach and do bodyguard work on the side as well as bounce. Satanism, it's meditations and martial arts, yoga, and philosophys have been good to me physically. My curent girlfriend is 20 years younger, as HP Maxine states LIVE GOOD, ENJOY LIFE.
Anyway My intent is not to insult you, it's to try and help you see another side to MMA other than just as a "sport." It's to show you that there is a very "Satanic side" to the study and integration of many different martial systems. It truly is a search for truth in training, an attempt to get past bullshit and lies and corrupted truths so inherent in TMA and SD today. It is merely searching through martial arts and martial arts philosophy with a "Satanic mindset" the same way we search through yoga and yogic philosophy for truth. We Satanists look for reality, test everything, and see no limitations where the herd sees only lack and limitation.
May Satan bless you on the Path
Hail Satan!
Dante
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I've been watching this bout from the stands, and in between rounds I'd like to enter the ring and give my two cents, if it pleases the two combatants. 
First of all, I may get a little curt here, and I apologize if I hurt anyone's feelers or offend anyone, but I have some things to say and I'm not going to go out of my way to present them all "nicely". :/
I live in a city that is consistently ranked in the top 5 for most dangerous cities to live in and consistently ranked #1 in the country for number of violent crimes. With that being said, I am also engaged and have been with my fiance for almost 8 years now. She works in the city and sometimes works very early/late hours. Her safety is always a concern of mine, and I do worry about her becoming a target of some kind attack. For that reason, I have always encouraged and suggested that she carry a GUN, or some other LAW ENFORCEMENT "grade" weapon that she can carry in a purse. This is because the "weekend course" SD classes that ARE mainly focused around women learning how to protect themselves from attackers, are simply put, a fucking joke.
Don't get me wrong - they do, do a great job....at allowing women to kick a padded guy in the groin for a few hours and scream, and feel empowered. However they do all seem to hinge upon the "poke him in the eye, knee him in the groin, and then RUN LIKE THE DIKINS'!" type of strategy that only works in the dimly lit alleys and parking garages that apparently EVERY violent attack occurs in. Needless to say, that type of thing isn't going to cut it when someone forces their way into your car on the drive home, or decides to try and follow you into a bathroom where there is just too little room to get AROUND the attacker. And, I hate to be crude here, but we have 6'8 300 pound black crips here, who would pretty much just get PISSED OFF if you tried one of the "tried and true" SD methods taught to women. And I bring this point up, simply because most weekend course SD classes, ARE geared for women, and they just do not come close to cutting it, even for that criteria. I truly appreciate and acknowledge the spirit and intent behind them, and I do agree a woman who is ready to at least TRY to defend herself is a lot better off than one who isn't...but they'd both be equally safer with a tazer in their hand and the knowledge of how to wield it.
Now, as far as MMA goes, anyone who has witnessed or been a part of more than 4 or 5 real street fights in their life, knows that MMA cage fights are about as close to the real thing that you are going to get, and that's because the progression of cage fights follow along the natural progression a real street fight would. You may have to pull a few punches in some areas, but if you can mount someone and elbow them in the face repeatedly until they are unconscious, you are dealing with a pretty true-to-life scenario. Most real street fights are going to begin either of two ways: 1) The aggressor will attack from behind, getting at least one good clean shot in before GRABBING the victim, pulling them down, and then MOUNTING the victim so that they cannot move, and then POUNDING the victim; or 2) Both parties will square off in a "fair fight" fashion, and try to strike at each other. MOST people, are NOT experienced fighters, and this kind of start is usually very ugly, unorganized, and not very effective, with both parties flailing around wildly. Invariably however, someone WILL eventually get hit with a shot, and they will learn that they do NOT enjoy it. Their natural reaction to this is to try to GRAB their opponent so as to get out of striking range. They don't THINK about doing it, they simply REACT to the phenomenon of getting punched in the face, which again, MOST people are not accustomed to. The fight has now entered into a GRAPPLING phase, where each party will try to control the other's movements and gain some kind of better position. This will almost always result in one person being tripped, pulled, or knocked to the ground. At this point the fight will follow along the same progression as before, one party will get on top of the other, limit the movement, and begin pounding. If the party on the bottom isn't knocked out or incapacitated during the pounding, they will almost always ROLL OVER to protect their face, and at this point, the other fighter is capable of doing anything.
I'm not saying this is how EVERY fight goes, but a majority of REAL street fights will follow this sort of natural progression until someone is unable or unwilling to fight anymore. MMA is a superior FIGHTING STYLE, because it acknowledges, embraces, and encompasses each phase of the natural fight progression. It does this because - IT WAS DESIGNED TO, by fighters who had a need to be prepared for each different phase of a fight. And that is ALL THAT MMA is - it's a system for a FIGHTER to be prepared for what he is likely to encounter IN A FIGHT. This does not make it the world's best self defense method or martial art - but it does make it a very REALISTIC fighting style. Does that mean a 5'0 95lb female trained extensively in MMA is going to be able to defend herself against a 6'4 220lb man who is DETERMINED to do her harm? No. Will a tazer or small caliber pistol stop that same man dead in his tracks? Yes. It may not KILL, or even completely incapacitate him, but he will be having serious second thoughts about re-launching his attack.
So, in my humble opinion, if you want to learn how to defend yourself in a fist fight type scenario, MMA is a great option that WILL prepare you for a real street fight. If you want to survive a knife attack or some other type of attacker scenario, seek specialized training in that area and as much REAL footage of the phenomena as you can so that you can study what NATURALLY happens during that scenario. Having a weapon such as a tazer or firearm if you are capable, is as good insurance as any - but having situational awareness and recognizing the signs of danger around you is the biggest key to survival - in any situation. Not being there when something bad happens is the easiest form of self defense.
If you would like some resource material to watch REAL street fights,
and study what naturally happens during a street fight, you can go to
http://www.comegetyousome.com
HG
First of all, I may get a little curt here, and I apologize if I hurt anyone's feelers or offend anyone, but I have some things to say and I'm not going to go out of my way to present them all "nicely". :/
I live in a city that is consistently ranked in the top 5 for most dangerous cities to live in and consistently ranked #1 in the country for number of violent crimes. With that being said, I am also engaged and have been with my fiance for almost 8 years now. She works in the city and sometimes works very early/late hours. Her safety is always a concern of mine, and I do worry about her becoming a target of some kind attack. For that reason, I have always encouraged and suggested that she carry a GUN, or some other LAW ENFORCEMENT "grade" weapon that she can carry in a purse. This is because the "weekend course" SD classes that ARE mainly focused around women learning how to protect themselves from attackers, are simply put, a fucking joke.
Don't get me wrong - they do, do a great job....at allowing women to kick a padded guy in the groin for a few hours and scream, and feel empowered. However they do all seem to hinge upon the "poke him in the eye, knee him in the groin, and then RUN LIKE THE DIKINS'!" type of strategy that only works in the dimly lit alleys and parking garages that apparently EVERY violent attack occurs in. Needless to say, that type of thing isn't going to cut it when someone forces their way into your car on the drive home, or decides to try and follow you into a bathroom where there is just too little room to get AROUND the attacker. And, I hate to be crude here, but we have 6'8 300 pound black crips here, who would pretty much just get PISSED OFF if you tried one of the "tried and true" SD methods taught to women. And I bring this point up, simply because most weekend course SD classes, ARE geared for women, and they just do not come close to cutting it, even for that criteria. I truly appreciate and acknowledge the spirit and intent behind them, and I do agree a woman who is ready to at least TRY to defend herself is a lot better off than one who isn't...but they'd both be equally safer with a tazer in their hand and the knowledge of how to wield it.
Now, as far as MMA goes, anyone who has witnessed or been a part of more than 4 or 5 real street fights in their life, knows that MMA cage fights are about as close to the real thing that you are going to get, and that's because the progression of cage fights follow along the natural progression a real street fight would. You may have to pull a few punches in some areas, but if you can mount someone and elbow them in the face repeatedly until they are unconscious, you are dealing with a pretty true-to-life scenario. Most real street fights are going to begin either of two ways: 1) The aggressor will attack from behind, getting at least one good clean shot in before GRABBING the victim, pulling them down, and then MOUNTING the victim so that they cannot move, and then POUNDING the victim; or 2) Both parties will square off in a "fair fight" fashion, and try to strike at each other. MOST people, are NOT experienced fighters, and this kind of start is usually very ugly, unorganized, and not very effective, with both parties flailing around wildly. Invariably however, someone WILL eventually get hit with a shot, and they will learn that they do NOT enjoy it. Their natural reaction to this is to try to GRAB their opponent so as to get out of striking range. They don't THINK about doing it, they simply REACT to the phenomenon of getting punched in the face, which again, MOST people are not accustomed to. The fight has now entered into a GRAPPLING phase, where each party will try to control the other's movements and gain some kind of better position. This will almost always result in one person being tripped, pulled, or knocked to the ground. At this point the fight will follow along the same progression as before, one party will get on top of the other, limit the movement, and begin pounding. If the party on the bottom isn't knocked out or incapacitated during the pounding, they will almost always ROLL OVER to protect their face, and at this point, the other fighter is capable of doing anything.
I'm not saying this is how EVERY fight goes, but a majority of REAL street fights will follow this sort of natural progression until someone is unable or unwilling to fight anymore. MMA is a superior FIGHTING STYLE, because it acknowledges, embraces, and encompasses each phase of the natural fight progression. It does this because - IT WAS DESIGNED TO, by fighters who had a need to be prepared for each different phase of a fight. And that is ALL THAT MMA is - it's a system for a FIGHTER to be prepared for what he is likely to encounter IN A FIGHT. This does not make it the world's best self defense method or martial art - but it does make it a very REALISTIC fighting style. Does that mean a 5'0 95lb female trained extensively in MMA is going to be able to defend herself against a 6'4 220lb man who is DETERMINED to do her harm? No. Will a tazer or small caliber pistol stop that same man dead in his tracks? Yes. It may not KILL, or even completely incapacitate him, but he will be having serious second thoughts about re-launching his attack.
So, in my humble opinion, if you want to learn how to defend yourself in a fist fight type scenario, MMA is a great option that WILL prepare you for a real street fight. If you want to survive a knife attack or some other type of attacker scenario, seek specialized training in that area and as much REAL footage of the phenomena as you can so that you can study what NATURALLY happens during that scenario. Having a weapon such as a tazer or firearm if you are capable, is as good insurance as any - but having situational awareness and recognizing the signs of danger around you is the biggest key to survival - in any situation. Not being there when something bad happens is the easiest form of self defense.
If you would like some resource material to watch REAL street fights,
and study what naturally happens during a street fight, you can go to
http://www.comegetyousome.com
HG
Finally, you wrote the MAGIC word, disernment! That is where rubber hits the road. The Juptier subject was discussed on the Blacksun forum, that puts serious doubt on many things, also I doubt the truth of such fights happening ever. Why a race of beings with God powers would kick and punch is pointless form of fighting for their ability level. A martial system for such a race would emcompass the reality of killing a person with a thought command for instance and other siddhi's.. Especially when such power is a normal as to them as moving your arm. Sounds like an allegory. Who is ever equally matched in the universe? Interesting enough I have heard the government does employ "teps" in their psychic warfare branch who kill with telekinesis but are rare in number. Now how is grappling going to defend against that? Especially among a race where that is normal ability. Maybe it's just me and I am practical to a flaw. I am not repeating myself anymore. I believe we are looking at the same thing but with different ways of putting it. Such as the tale of the 3 men and the elephant. But I draw the line between gyms that train sport fighting(every MMA gym I saw only does this) only and SD. There is a graveyard full of sport fighters and TMA fighters who found out the fatal way their system was lacking. In that way sport fighting is full contact TMA. I have spent years training different systems and field stirpping them for practical use. This is the main system I trained in and saved my life more then once, it's a full system in the honest sense prehaps it has put the martial way back together again. It's literally holistic. www.senshido.com It's interesting you bring up the jews, this fellow was pals with some jew who ripped his hard won knowledge off and repacked it as insane shit that will get you killed. And then bitched like crazy when he was called on it. Anyway I believe we both agree we want the same in a Martial system. Just don't expect me to consider sport arts for mat or ring focus only to be a full Martial system people haved died for it seriously. You mention the ancient Greek system that was far beyond in my view sport fighting as it contained a host of lethal strikes and was probably designed originally for battlefield use when a warriors spear and sword was out of use. Just as old Military combatives are for when your bullet firing weapon is not handy. From reading about how the Spartans fought on empty handed at the Gates of Heat after their swords and spears where shattered and if they could not grab a rock in time, it sounds like it. I do believe from looking at many Eastern Arts they where designed for fighting with chi. I came across a manual from some old Chi Gong master where he mentioned how advanced masters would transmit chi into the oppent on striking them that would knock their bio-eletical system out and then with it. and lethally if they wanted. That seems to get into Dim Mak, which is almost useless without such ability minus a few obvious vital point strikes that can be done with gross motor skill to larger taget surfaces such as throat, eyes, temples.etc
From: heathendante <heathendante@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, October 8, 2010 12:39:54 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
Well, I have been respectful in all my posts and I will continue to do so. That said, you need to do some research because the planet of the crossing is not jupiter. The summarian cylinder seals that contain info on martial contests were translated by other academics than just sitchin.
The Annunaki were passionate and very physical as well as mentally and spiritually advanced. When they visit again you will see this. They are body proud and love physicality. When Two princes are equal in abilities, the circle of honor is a good proving ground.
MMA is not a "sport profession" as you state. You only show your lack of knowledge in this area. just as HP Maxine and other HP's in the past have stated the inherent problems with yoga, we have to use disernment. Some of the yoga teachings have been corrupted, so we try different asanas and ideas untill we find and disern truth. So it is with martial arts, many are corrupted with xtian/jew mind virus right hand path ideas. MMA just represents the search for and integration of viable, workable, REAL tactics and training, not just BS. MMA is not JUST for a cage, it is a search for truth.
The idea that you can actually learn enough to be lethal in a weekend, regardless of physical ability is a jew led marketing device laced with bullshit, like all hebrew ideas. Krav magda is a prime example, with lots of gentiles losing their money to jew led "seminars" that are pure BS.
Like yoga asanas, martial arts and self defense take effort, time, and study. Satanism is a warrior religion and warrior training goes hand in hand with meditations etc. You don't get to sit on a couch and eat cheetos and still be a warrior. It does not work like that. My own practice of "MMA" includes Satanic meditation, bodyboarding surfing, yoga asanas as well as time on the mat and heavy bag and sparring sessions. I spent several hours in the pacific ocean today ( in a wetsuit) in really cold water, (I live on the oregon border) and it was totally related to my martial arts practice. You may not see that but thats ok. I do board pushups, dive under waves, and work out as well as play, it's VERY Satanic lol.
In Satanism we try to recognize self limiting thoughts and beliefs, beliefs on aging, physical abilities, self defense, philosophy, etc. I am 52 and people think i'm in my 30's. I still coach and do bodyguard work on the side as well as bounce. Satanism, it's meditations and martial arts, yoga, and philosophys have been good to me physically. My curent girlfriend is 20 years younger, as HP Maxine states LIVE GOOD, ENJOY LIFE.
Anyway My intent is not to insult you, it's to try and help you see another side to MMA other than just as a "sport." It's to show you that there is a very "Satanic side" to the study and integration of many different martial systems. It truly is a search for truth in training, an attempt to get past bullshit and lies and corrupted truths so inherent in TMA and SD today. It is merely searching through martial arts and martial arts philosophy with a "Satanic mindset" the same way we search through yoga and yogic philosophy for truth. We Satanists look for reality, test everything, and see no limitations where the herd sees only lack and limitation.
May Satan bless you on the Path
Hail Satan!
Dante
From: heathendante <heathendante@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, October 8, 2010 12:39:54 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
Well, I have been respectful in all my posts and I will continue to do so. That said, you need to do some research because the planet of the crossing is not jupiter. The summarian cylinder seals that contain info on martial contests were translated by other academics than just sitchin.
The Annunaki were passionate and very physical as well as mentally and spiritually advanced. When they visit again you will see this. They are body proud and love physicality. When Two princes are equal in abilities, the circle of honor is a good proving ground.
MMA is not a "sport profession" as you state. You only show your lack of knowledge in this area. just as HP Maxine and other HP's in the past have stated the inherent problems with yoga, we have to use disernment. Some of the yoga teachings have been corrupted, so we try different asanas and ideas untill we find and disern truth. So it is with martial arts, many are corrupted with xtian/jew mind virus right hand path ideas. MMA just represents the search for and integration of viable, workable, REAL tactics and training, not just BS. MMA is not JUST for a cage, it is a search for truth.
The idea that you can actually learn enough to be lethal in a weekend, regardless of physical ability is a jew led marketing device laced with bullshit, like all hebrew ideas. Krav magda is a prime example, with lots of gentiles losing their money to jew led "seminars" that are pure BS.
Like yoga asanas, martial arts and self defense take effort, time, and study. Satanism is a warrior religion and warrior training goes hand in hand with meditations etc. You don't get to sit on a couch and eat cheetos and still be a warrior. It does not work like that. My own practice of "MMA" includes Satanic meditation, bodyboarding surfing, yoga asanas as well as time on the mat and heavy bag and sparring sessions. I spent several hours in the pacific ocean today ( in a wetsuit) in really cold water, (I live on the oregon border) and it was totally related to my martial arts practice. You may not see that but thats ok. I do board pushups, dive under waves, and work out as well as play, it's VERY Satanic lol.
In Satanism we try to recognize self limiting thoughts and beliefs, beliefs on aging, physical abilities, self defense, philosophy, etc. I am 52 and people think i'm in my 30's. I still coach and do bodyguard work on the side as well as bounce. Satanism, it's meditations and martial arts, yoga, and philosophys have been good to me physically. My curent girlfriend is 20 years younger, as HP Maxine states LIVE GOOD, ENJOY LIFE.
Anyway My intent is not to insult you, it's to try and help you see another side to MMA other than just as a "sport." It's to show you that there is a very "Satanic side" to the study and integration of many different martial systems. It truly is a search for truth in training, an attempt to get past bullshit and lies and corrupted truths so inherent in TMA and SD today. It is merely searching through martial arts and martial arts philosophy with a "Satanic mindset" the same way we search through yoga and yogic philosophy for truth. We Satanists look for reality, test everything, and see no limitations where the herd sees only lack and limitation.
May Satan bless you on the Path
Hail Satan!
Dante
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--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:
You forgot about Reiki that in it's original form is not only for healing of one but also with offence as well though it takes practise .I'm quite tired don't mind spelling.
[/TD]From: searchingeast666 <searchingeast666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 11:58 AM
I've been watching this bout from the stands, and in between rounds I'd like to enter the ring and give my two cents, if it pleases the two combatants.
First of all, I may get a little curt here, and I apologize if I hurt anyone's feelers or offend anyone, but I have some things to say and I'm not going to go out of my way to present them all "nicely". :/
I live in a city that is consistently ranked in the top 5 for most dangerous cities to live in and consistently ranked #1 in the country for number of violent crimes. With that being said, I am also engaged and have been with my fiance for almost 8 years now. She works in the city and sometimes works very early/late hours. Her safety is always a concern of mine, and I do worry about her becoming a target of some kind attack. For that reason, I have always encouraged and suggested that she carry a GUN, or some other LAW ENFORCEMENT "grade" weapon that she can carry in a purse. This is because the "weekend course" SD classes that ARE mainly focused around women learning how to protect themselves from attackers, are simply put, a fucking joke.
Don't get me wrong - they do, do a great job....at allowing women to kick a padded guy in the groin for a few hours and scream, and feel empowered. However they do all seem to hinge upon the "poke him in the eye, knee him in the groin, and then RUN LIKE THE DIKINS'!" type of strategy that only works in the dimly lit alleys and parking garages that apparently EVERY violent attack occurs in. Needless to say, that type of thing isn't going to cut it when someone forces their way into your car on the drive home, or decides to try and follow you into a bathroom where there is just too little room to get AROUND the attacker. And, I hate to be crude here, but we have 6'8 300 pound black crips here, who would pretty much just get PISSED OFF if you tried one of the "tried and true" SD methods taught to women. And I bring this point up, simply because most weekend course SD classes, ARE geared for women, and they just do not come close to cutting it, even for that criteria. I truly appreciate and acknowledge the spirit and intent behind them, and I do agree a woman who is ready to at least TRY to defend herself is a lot better off than one who isn't...but they'd both be equally safer with a tazer in their hand and the knowledge of how to wield it.
Now, as far as MMA goes, anyone who has witnessed or been a part of more than 4 or 5 real street fights in their life, knows that MMA cage fights are about as close to the real thing that you are going to get, and that's because the progression of cage fights follow along the natural progression a real street fight would. You may have to pull a few punches in some areas, but if you can mount someone and elbow them in the face repeatedly until they are unconscious, you are dealing with a pretty true-to-life scenario. Most real street fights are going to begin either of two ways: 1) The aggressor will attack from behind, getting at least one good clean shot in before GRABBING the victim, pulling them down, and then MOUNTING the victim so that they cannot move, and then POUNDING the victim; or 2) Both parties will square off in a "fair fight" fashion, and try to strike at each other. MOST people, are NOT experienced fighters, and this kind of start is usually very ugly, unorganized, and not very effective, with both parties flailing around wildly. Invariably however, someone WILL eventually get hit with a shot, and they will learn that they do NOT enjoy it. Their natural reaction to this is to try to GRAB their opponent so as to get out of striking range. They don't THINK about doing it, they simply REACT to the phenomenon of getting punched in the face, which again, MOST people are not accustomed to. The fight has now entered into a GRAPPLING phase, where each party will try to control the other's movements and gain some kind of better position. This will almost always result in one person being tripped, pulled, or knocked to the ground. At this point the fight will follow along the same progression as before, one party will get on top of the other, limit the movement, and begin pounding. If the party on the bottom isn't knocked out or incapacitated during the pounding, they will almost always ROLL OVER to protect their face, and at this point, the other fighter is capable of doing anything.
I'm not saying this is how EVERY fight goes, but a majority of REAL street fights will follow this sort of natural progression until someone is unable or unwilling to fight anymore. MMA is a superior FIGHTING STYLE, because it acknowledges, embraces, and encompasses each phase of the natural fight progression. It does this because - IT WAS DESIGNED TO, by fighters who had a need to be prepared for each different phase of a fight. And that is ALL THAT MMA is - it's a system for a FIGHTER to be prepared for what he is likely to encounter IN A FIGHT. This does not make it the world's best self defense method or martial art - but it does make it a very REALISTIC fighting style. Does that mean a 5'0 95lb female trained extensively in MMA is going to be able to defend herself against a 6'4 220lb man who is DETERMINED to do her harm? No. Will a tazer or small caliber pistol stop that same man dead in his tracks? Yes. It may not KILL, or even completely incapacitate him, but he will be having serious second thoughts about re-launching his attack.
So, in my humble opinion, if you want to learn how to defend yourself in a fist fight type scenario, MMA is a great option that WILL prepare you for a real street fight. If you want to survive a knife attack or some other type of attacker scenario, seek specialized training in that area and as much REAL footage of the phenomena as you can so that you can study what NATURALLY happens during that scenario. Having a weapon such as a tazer or firearm if you are capable, is as good insurance as any - but having situational awareness and recognizing the signs of danger around you is the biggest key to survival - in any situation. Not being there when something bad happens is the easiest form of self defense.
If you would like some resource material to watch REAL street fights,
and study what naturally happens during a street fight, you can go to
http://www.comegetyousome.com
HG
--- In [[email protected]][email protected][/email], "heathendante" <heathendante@... wrote:
Well, I have been respectful in all my posts and I will continue to do so. That said, you need to do some research because the planet of the crossing is not jupiter. The summarian cylinder seals that contain info on martial contests were translated by other academics than just sitchin.
The Annunaki were passionate and very physical as well as mentally and spiritually advanced. When they visit again you will see this. They are body proud and love physicality. When Two princes are equal in abilities, the circle of honor is a good proving ground.
MMA is not a "sport profession" as you state. You only show your lack of knowledge in this area. just as HP Maxine and other HP's in the past have stated the inherent problems with yoga, we have to use disernment. Some of the yoga teachings have been corrupted, so we try different asanas and ideas untill we find and disern truth. So it is with martial arts, many are corrupted with xtian/jew mind virus right hand path ideas. MMA just represents the search for and integration of viable, workable, REAL tactics and training, not just BS. MMA is not JUST for a cage, it is a search for truth.
The idea that you can actually learn enough to be lethal in a weekend, regardless of physical ability is a jew led marketing device laced with bullshit, like all hebrew ideas. Krav magda is a prime example, with lots of gentiles losing their money to jew led "seminars" that are pure BS.
Like yoga asanas, martial arts and self defense take effort, time, and study. Satanism is a warrior religion and warrior training goes hand in hand with meditations etc. You don't get to sit on a couch and eat cheetos and still be a warrior. It does not work like that. My own practice of "MMA" includes Satanic meditation, bodyboarding surfing, yoga asanas as well as time on the mat and heavy bag and sparring sessions. I spent several hours in the pacific ocean today ( in a wetsuit) in really cold water, (I live on the oregon border) and it was totally related to my martial arts practice. You may not see that but thats ok. I do board pushups, dive under waves, and work out as well as play, it's VERY Satanic lol.
In Satanism we try to recognize self limiting thoughts and beliefs, beliefs on aging, physical abilities, self defense, philosophy, etc. I am 52 and people think i'm in my 30's. I still coach and do bodyguard work on the side as well as bounce. Satanism, it's meditations and martial arts, yoga, and philosophys have been good to me physically. My curent girlfriend is 20 years younger, as HP Maxine states LIVE GOOD, ENJOY LIFE.
Anyway My intent is not to insult you, it's to try and help you see another side to MMA other than just as a "sport." It's to show you that there is a very "Satanic side" to the study and integration of many different martial systems. It truly is a search for truth in training, an attempt to get past bullshit and lies and corrupted truths so inherent in TMA and SD today. It is merely searching through martial arts and martial arts philosophy with a "Satanic mindset" the same way we search through yoga and yogic philosophy for truth. We Satanists look for reality, test everything, and see no limitations where the herd sees only lack and limitation.
May Satan bless you on the Path
Hail Satan!
Dante
--- In [[email protected]][email protected][/email], Don Danko <mageson6666@ wrote:
I don't believe in the Annuanki martial art tales, from sitchin. One Nibru is
Juptier and two I doubt a race of psychically advanced beings who fight with
such psychic ability, need to punch or kick anyone. And I also doubt a super
intelligent race would place the fate of their planet and people in the hands of
a royal cage fight to chose a King. That is backwards on many levels.
It's probably when humans over time lost identical ability physical fighting
systems popped as adaption.
Once again you simply have proven my point here.
As for fat old people, you should train to fight as an old man cause you might
be one, one day. How many MMA fighters are in the ring at 65? It's a sport
profession.
________________________________
From: dante kun <heathendante@
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 4:34:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
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I would have to respectively disagree, no different paradigms at all. Self
defense involves movement, awareness, and energy work. It involves focus,
follow through, economy of motion, ground, standing, weapons, expedient and
otherwise,  offensive and defensive tactics, all things very present in the
original combat forms the Annunaki trained their favorite humans in at the
start.
TMA and SD are just pale shadows of the true combat forms of the Annuki. So is
BJJ and even sport MMA. The various forms of wrestling based combat, to include
Pankration are traceable back to Sumer and India. But even these are watered
down versions of the Annunaki originals I bet.Â
fat, old, and weak people will have a hard time defending themselves regardless
of a weekend seminar. Satanism is about getting stronger physically,
psychologicly, and spiritually. I think learning from a variety of martial
arts, using personal experience and success as a guide, fitness and meditation
training is the way to go, long term. There are no short cuts.
Hail Satan!
Dante
--- On Thu, 10/7/10, Don Danko <mageson6666@ wrote:
From: Don Danko <mageson6666@
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Date: Thursday, October 7, 2010, 11:32 AM
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Two different paradigms even as illustrated by your point of focus. Wanting to
put them into one is a square peg in a round role.
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From: dante kun <heathendante@
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 1:43:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
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I think you missed the part of my post where I posted on non cage apps. MMA is
just studying a variety of martial arts applications. MMA is most definitly NOT
for sport only. As I stated there are "snap no tap moves" footwork, striking,
etc. Many people study it for sport but it has applications WAY beyond sport.Â
The incedents you posted on seem to be people who did not go to the ground or
keep their feet when it's most needed tacticly.
Striking from the closest point, knowing you can move faster foward than an
attacker can move backwards, attacking the vision, breathing, balance, these
are good MMA concepts that are ready made for self defence. I never posted on
BJJ which I think is a rip off of the TMA of pankration/catch wrestling. Most
TMA's are a joke.
Part of self defense is being in shape, at least the best shape you can be in.Â
If you get put in a rear naked you had better know an escape, thats all I am
saying. Fighting, IN or OUT of a cage in any situation the more tools you have
in your tool chest the better. as for military martial arts , they generally
suck. I did 6 years myself. My daughter at 16 years old was a state and
national women's freestyle wrestling champ. She was playing around on the mat
with her home on leave marine boyfriend. He got aggressive and she armbarred
him pretty easily. he was so ashamed he broke up with her a day later.lol.
I don't see us in disagreement really, there are just some MMA concepts that you
thought were "cage only" concepts, and MMA tools you may be unaware of. For
example, as a submission coach for a local team, we do a half hour cool down
every practice by practicing street tactics at the end of practice. Not all MMA
is BJJ. We train to beat BJJ and all TMA's. Remember, MMA is standup striking,
kicks, knees, elbows, headbutting, palm strikes, open and closed hand, as well
as throws and takedowns and nasty submissions. For the cage we teach
submissions, for the street it's breaks, and neck cranks, and crushed throats,
etc. There are a lot of tools to be used. We also teach our fighters to assume
EVERYONE is armed. I myself have survived and won a knife attack.
As for self defense, believe me, bouncers have to protect themselves many times,
not just from drunks, we face angry groups, gang members out to prove
themselves, and even begining MMA fighters with a couple of fights under their
belts out to be rowdy. lol! I know a lot more about SD than any weekend
course. Bodyguards are very much into SD as well, threat recognition, facial
recognition, body language, micro expressions, etc. I am a graduate of ESI with
a black belt in a TMA, as well as a lot of weekend clinics etc. Self defense
and Mixed Martial Arts go hand in hand with me. As does weapons training.
In closing I think we are better able to protect ourselves and our loved ones if
we study a Variety of sources and use what HP Maxine always recommends, personal
experience. The original martial art, brought to this world via the Annunaki
was the art that spawned Pankration and other arts that included ground,
standup, and everything you see in todays cage fighting. A well rounded MMA
person is closest to this art I believe. The BJJ guys are almost all ground,
that is just as unbalanced as all standup. Balance is what we are after. For me
the mat and the cage are almost religious, in that I am truly seeking the
original art brought by the Annunaki. SD in and of itself is also limited in
scope and cannot hope to prepare one for everything one may encounter. Studying
from a wide variety of sources (sources watered down from the original) and
finding "what works" and ignoring the useless, is a pretty good idea. Hand in
hand with this is watching our weight, training, meditating, and working with
our GD's.
--- On Wed, 10/6/10, Don Danko <mageson6666@ wrote:
From: Don Danko <mageson6666@
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 9:25 PM
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I never mentioned TMA, I mentioned SD. So the comments on TMA are moot here.
I'am not people, a few anecdotal stories aside. MMA is designed for sport
application, it takes years of training and experience it's a profession. SD can
be learned in a weekend seminar and then the principals just worked on over
time. When I was in the military most hand to hand courses where not very long.Â
Mainly for this reason.
Much of MMA is not very application based for SD if I need to teach a middle
aged out of shape lady how to defend herself from a rapist. I need a different
set of tools. Then a 200 pound profession bouncer would need. Granted it does
have carry over as you mention which I never denied.
One is a dedicated spot athletes profession such as boxers had to go thought.
One is for the general populace to deal with a wide variety of situations
outside of a ring environment. How is BBJ going to help deal with a multi
attacker situation? etc
Body Guards are a profession group they have a force level system they have to
adhere to. They are not average joe geting a knife stuck in his face on his way
from the ATM. Also I don't count how to beat on white and blue collar drunks MMA
style as SD. Which is much of Bas Ruttens "SD" system I have seen.
Since you like anecdotal examples, there was an English MMA Champ, who died
several times on the way to the hospital because he was stabbed in the heart
during a fight outside a club with some locals. He was never trained in
situational awareness so he never even had the state of mind to know how to or
think of looking for a knife or the signs of a hidden one in the hands or
elsewhere. Another a trained fellow was choking another from a mounted postion
in cross choke, the guy getting the choking pulled a buck out of his pocket and
half gutted the other to death. Man the tool using ape.
What does being a MMA champ mean if one guy sticks you in the back when his
buddy distacted you in a normal conversation. Does MMA even teach verbal
descalation, do they teach psychology of different attacks, how fights start way
before the physical, how to E&E how to deal with the Police after the facts,
local laws on SD, reality of the court systems.etc
Two different enivornments that while there is some carry over, not to the level
of an identical one. It's the differences that mean everything here.
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From: heathendante <heathendante@
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Sent: Wed, October 6, 2010 10:50:18 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
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People who know nothing about MMA usually make this statement. As if MMA and
self defense are somehow not related. Self defense involves knowing the ground
and striking and the tactics of both. If you go to the Executive Security
International (The harvard of bodyguard schools) website and look at their
classes you will see a class on submissions for bodyguards taught by a gracie
family member. over 90 percent of all fights end on the ground and you had
better know what do do if you end up there. If facing a group you had better
know how to keep your feet under you and move well. I bounce at two clubs right
now and I watched an MMA fighter (amature) take on and handle several mexican
gang members very easily. He broke one guys arm. Sport MMA is dangerous in and
of itself with MMA fighters getting broken arms, backs etc. When you take into
account the tactics of "snap no tap" moves, vicious throws, and other MMA
tactics not used in the cage, it gets much more dangerous. Mixed martial Arts
are just that, mixed. This does not mean sport only moves. Neck cranks for
example are deadly and fast. That is only one example. there are standing
kimoras and top wrist locks that take only a second and your tendons or shoulder
are toast. MMA has it's street applications and tactics not used in the cage,
MMA is not "just" for sport, it is a philosophy of "what works" and finding a
path back to wholeness within the martial arts. Most "self defense" martial arts
are impractical, don't prepare you for sucker punches, etc. With krav magda for
example the jews just ripped off stuff and called it their own, it has a lot to
be desired. Aikido is a joke as is traditional karate and tae kwon do, thus
their poor showing within the cage. If you can strike, throw, move well, excape
submission and do submissions especially the MMA not allowed in a cage like the
snap no tap moves you are in good shape self defense wise.
Check out www.scientificwrestling.com or www.catchwrestle.com.
You will be pleasently suprized. Plus Pankration style mixed martial arts were
not considered "mixed" in ancient sumer and other places, it was considered
normal to know striking, ground, throws, takedowns, movement, and brutal chokes
and submissions. In The Lost Book of EnKi two Annunaki princes engaged in this
type of combat to determine status. This type of whole martial art is an
Annunaki gift.
Hail Satan!
Dante
--- In [[email protected]][email protected][/email], Don Danko <mageson6666@ wrote:
Do you understand the difference between SD and MMA?
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From: Sven <belthazorthemighty@
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 1:07:59 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
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I only brought this up because I was offered to sign up at an mma dojo by
someone who would hook me up. Don, what martial arts would you recommend? and
what are your views on Bruce Lee?
--- In [[email protected]][email protected][/email], Don Danko <mageson6666@ wrote:
Just do not mistake it, for a vaild Self-Defense path. Always understand the
difference between sport and the other.
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From: Sven <belthazorthemighty@
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 2:43:56 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: MMA
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I figured as much. I would love to fight anyway, but I'm still much more
interested in the esoteric side of martial arts. I've even contemplated going
to
China and find a teacher, but I hear the don't teach outsiders as well as
they
do their own.
--- In [[email protected]][email protected][/email], "scott.mark06@"<scott.mark06@
wrote:
MMA does not help, it is a total fighting style with no spiritual component
that I am aware of, unless you can find an individual instructor that can
work some spiritual training into the curriculum. It is a great physical
workout and can be used with your spiritual training, but you will have to
combine them yourself. There are many good martial art styles that do have
a strong spiritual component built into the system if that is what you are
looking for.
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