help

[Damien Garcia]

Go to the JOS site and read, read, read, all your questions can be answered there.
DamienHail Satan!!

From: grace <gracekylemaina@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:49 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] help

  hey guys ....i need some guidance on what to do next after converting...i dont know anything about the meditation , and one more thing how can i make father satan to appear to me? My birthday is this weeked and i need him as my birthday gift to me and to also dedicate that day to him as well.

Hail satan!

 

[[email protected]]

Satan is god not your slave
I dunno any other way to put it can someone help me out here in thinking of other ways to tell this individual that to say and even think this is disrespectful and wrong???
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 26, 2012, at 1:49 AM, "grace" <gracekylemaina@... wrote:

  hey guys ....i need some guidance on what to do next after converting...i dont know anything about the meditation , and one more thing how can i make father satan to appear to me? My birthday is this weeked and i need him as my birthday gift to me and to also dedicate that day to him as well.

Hail satan!

=

 

[[email protected]]

Are you high???
Seriously i wonder sometimes gracekyliemaina

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 26, 2012, at 8:29 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

  I said in my previous post that what you asked is disrespectful, but this post of yours only tries to make it worse. "i need him as my birthday gift to me"???

I dunno if you know the basic way of living, but you don't demand for a gift in your life. You don't make someone give you a gift. It's up to the other person to give you a gift. In fact if you demand a gift it's a good way to make the other person dislike you, as you're being inconsiderate and arrogant.

Don't forget Satan/Enki is a GOD. You can't make demands or command him, you can't force him and you can't try to use him. Many people in the past tried to do that with nonsense in enemy grimoires and got their asses kicked and they deserved it.

You also don't dedicate in exchange for something. This is disrespectful again.

I suggest you read the JoS site, take your time to read it. I mean it seriously.

--- [/IMG][email protected][/email][/url], "grace" <gracekylemaina@... wrote:

hey guys ....i need some guidance on what to do next after converting...i dont know anything about the meditation , and one more thing how can i make father satan to appear to me? My birthday is this weeked and i need him as my birthday gift to me and to also dedicate that day to him as well.

Hail satan!

=

 

[blackkat_411]

...Hail Satan!! You say--"i dont know anything about the meditation "
yet you """"wish""" Father Satan 'appear' to you??? LOL Please--it does not work this way!!
If you wish to dedicate, realize Father Satan sees what is in your heart. The greatest gift any Gentile is given is a chance to know and understand who the Gods are. PLEASE study some more the joyofsatan.and understand what you are not seeing correcttly now.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "grace" <gracekylemaina@... wrote:

hey guys ....i need some guidance on what to do next after converting...i dont know anything about the meditation , and one more thing how can i make father satan to appear to me? My birthday is this weeked and i need him as my birthday gift to me and to also dedicate that day to him as well.

Hail satan!

 

[Damien Garcia]

you need to start from the very begining

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "magiddo2008" <magiddo2008@... wrote:

i think you have a great website, but its somewhat confusing as to where i need to start and what i need to do and when i need to do it. I need some guidance. thanks

 

[[email protected]]

Graceky are you ok? Hail enki




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On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 5:50 PM EET hotstudman95@... wrote:

Are you high???

Seriously i wonder sometimes gracekyliemaina

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 26, 2012, at 8:29 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

I said in my previous post that what you asked is disrespectful, but this post of yours only tries to make it worse. "i need him as my birthday gift to me"???

I dunno if you know the basic way of living, but you don't demand for a gift in your life. You don't make someone give you a gift. It's up to the other person to give you a gift. In fact if you demand a gift it's a good way to make the other person dislike you, as you're being inconsiderate and arrogant.

Don't forget Satan/Enki is a GOD. You can't make demands or command him, you can't force him and you can't try to use him. Many people in the past tried to do that with nonsense in enemy grimoires and got their asses kicked and they deserved it.

You also don't dedicate in exchange for something. This is disrespectful again.

I suggest you read the JoS site, take your time to read it. I mean it seriously.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "grace" <gracekylemaina@... wrote:

hey guys ....i need some guidance on what to do next after converting...i dont know anything about the meditation , and one more thing how can i make father satan to appear to me? My birthday is this weeked and i need him as my birthday gift to me and to also dedicate that day to him as well.

Hail satan!





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[[email protected]]

Graceky are you ok? Hail enki




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On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 5:50 PM EET hotstudman95@... wrote:

Are you high???

Seriously i wonder sometimes gracekyliemaina

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 26, 2012, at 8:29 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

I said in my previous post that what you asked is disrespectful, but this post of yours only tries to make it worse. "i need him as my birthday gift to me"???

I dunno if you know the basic way of living, but you don't demand for a gift in your life. You don't make someone give you a gift. It's up to the other person to give you a gift. In fact if you demand a gift it's a good way to make the other person dislike you, as you're being inconsiderate and arrogant.

Don't forget Satan/Enki is a GOD. You can't make demands or command him, you can't force him and you can't try to use him. Many people in the past tried to do that with nonsense in enemy grimoires and got their asses kicked and they deserved it.

You also don't dedicate in exchange for something. This is disrespectful again.

I suggest you read the JoS site, take your time to read it. I mean it seriously.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "grace" <gracekylemaina@... wrote:

hey guys ....i need some guidance on what to do next after converting...i dont know anything about the meditation , and one more thing how can i make father satan to appear to me? My birthday is this weeked and i need him as my birthday gift to me and to also dedicate that day to him as well.

Hail satan!





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[qplayer37]

i want to meditate, but i simply cannot jump back in that horse.
i have been off meditations for quite alot of time now and its hard going back, i either drift to sleep or think about other things and
by the time i noticed it an hour has passed. so what can i do?
help appreciated!

 

[Carlos]

after my dedication ritual I have tried meditation and failed. I haven't been able to connect with neither Lucifer nor the Gods. I don't know if I did anything wrong but I really wanted to be closer.
Please help

 

[the_fire_starter666]

*Power* meditation (completely different than normal meditation) isn't an instant thing you try for a day or two. It's called mind training for a reason. It's mostly done to empower your soul, open your chakras, astral senses e.t.c. and these can take some time, they are not instant. They are not focused directly on external beings like our Gods, but they have to do with our self-empowerment, that's what Satanism is about.

You asked that question about what to do after being dedicated only a week ago, don't tell me you expect serious things to happen within a week?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Carlos" <direthirst@... wrote:

after my dedication ritual I have tried meditation and failed. I haven't been able to connect with neither Lucifer nor the Gods. I don't know if I did anything wrong but I really wanted to be closer.
Please help

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Spend some time doing some more "physical" spiritual workings before power meditation, like kundalini/hatha yoga, breathing exercises and mantra vibrations. These will get your mind ready.

From my experiences, these practices are more newbie friendly than silent power meditation, because as I said before it's much easier to concentrate in something physical than a visualization. You even feel your bioelectricity after doing these.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@... wrote:

i want to meditate, but i simply cannot jump back in that horse.
i have been off meditations for quite alot of time now and its hard going back, i either drift to sleep or think about other things and
by the time i noticed it an hour has passed. so what can i do?
help appreciated!

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]That can be true some but not all the_fire_starter666.For me personally it was the visualizations that I found the easiest to do,rather then the physical stuff.So I think it just depends on the person and their natural abilities.But then again being of Native American Heritage,I have done a lot of vision questing before I found this group too.So like H P Maxine says,it matters how much you used a certain gift,before you found Enki.

Hail Enki
Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 12:44 PM

  Spend some time doing some more "physical" spiritual workings before power meditation, like kundalini/hatha yoga, breathing exercises and mantra vibrations. These will get your mind ready.

From my experiences, these practices are more newbie friendly than silent power meditation, because as I said before it's much easier to concentrate in something physical than a visualization. You even feel your bioelectricity after doing these.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@... wrote:

i want to meditate, but i simply cannot jump back in that horse.
i have been off meditations for quite alot of time now and its hard going back, i either drift to sleep or think about other things and
by the time i noticed it an hour has passed. so what can i do?
help appreciated!

[/TD]

 

[the_fire_starter666]

It probably depends on the culture you've grown up and in your heritage too. I'm mostly referring to the western culture where people are focused on the material, are dominated by the left brain and want tangible results with everything. I mean, how many newbies come here and say "what can I do to bring money" or "want physical proof of Satan, want him to contact me" or ask about summoning a God and want a quick experience like that? Many people are like this and are not satisfied with something that isn't real or tangible such as a visualization, so they have trouble doing these.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

That can be true some but not all the_fire_starter666.For me personally it was the visualizations that I found the easiest to do,rather then the physical stuff.So I think it just depends on the person and their natural abilities.But then again being of Native American Heritage,I have done a lot of vision questing before I found this group too.So like H P Maxine says,it matters how much you used a certain gift,before you found Enki.

Hail Enki

Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 12:44 PM
















 









Spend some time doing some more "physical" spiritual workings before power meditation, like kundalini/hatha yoga, breathing exercises and mantra vibrations. These will get your mind ready.



From my experiences, these practices are more newbie friendly than silent power meditation, because as I said before it's much easier to concentrate in something physical than a visualization. You even feel your bioelectricity after doing these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:



i want to meditate, but i simply cannot jump back in that horse.

i have been off meditations for quite alot of time now and its hard going back, i either drift to sleep or think about other things and

by the time i noticed it an hour has passed. so what can i do?

help appreciated!

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]ya good point!

Hail Enki
Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 6:10 PM

  It probably depends on the culture you've grown up and in your heritage too. I'm mostly referring to the western culture where people are focused on the material, are dominated by the left brain and want tangible results with everything. I mean, how many newbies come here and say "what can I do to bring money" or "want physical proof of Satan, want him to contact me" or ask about summoning a God and want a quick experience like that? Many people are like this and are not satisfied with something that isn't real or tangible such as a visualization, so they have trouble doing these.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

That can be true some but not all the_fire_starter666.For me personally it was the visualizations that I found the easiest to do,rather then the physical stuff.So I think it just depends on the person and their natural abilities.But then again being of Native American Heritage,I have done a lot of vision questing before I found this group too.So like H P Maxine says,it matters how much you used a certain gift,before you found Enki.

Hail Enki

Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
To: <a rel="nofollow">[email protected]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 12:44 PM
















 









Spend some time doing some more "physical" spiritual workings before power meditation, like kundalini/hatha yoga, breathing exercises and mantra vibrations. These will get your mind ready.



From my experiences, these practices are more newbie friendly than silent power meditation, because as I said before it's much easier to concentrate in something physical than a visualization. You even feel your bioelectricity after doing these.



--- [/IMG][email protected], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:



i want to meditate, but i simply cannot jump back in that horse.

i have been off meditations for quite alot of time now and its hard going back, i either drift to sleep or think about other things and

by the time i noticed it an hour has passed. so what can i do?

help appreciated!

[/TD]

 

[the_fire_starter666]

And then there's the other reason why one may fail in power meditation. Part of your mind has doubts/disturbing thoughts or doesn't really want it. Same when I was new I did concentrate on falling into a trance but part of my mind was like "no you can't fall into a trance, that's impossible" or when I did chakra meditation I had subconscious thoughts like "wtf are you an idiot? Chakras aren't real!!". And I used to fail because of these thoughts, this part of my mind wasn't really into it.

When you do "physical" spiritual exercises, it's easier because your mind has no such doubts if what you're doing is real or not. You're concentrating in something tangible.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

It probably depends on the culture you've grown up and in your heritage too. I'm mostly referring to the western culture where people are focused on the material, are dominated by the left brain and want tangible results with everything. I mean, how many newbies come here and say "what can I do to bring money" or "want physical proof of Satan, want him to contact me" or ask about summoning a God and want a quick experience like that? Many people are like this and are not satisfied with something that isn't real or tangible such as a visualization, so they have trouble doing these.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

That can be true some but not all the_fire_starter666.For me personally it was the visualizations that I found the easiest to do,rather then the physical stuff.So I think it just depends on the person and their natural abilities.But then again being of Native American Heritage,I have done a lot of vision questing before I found this group too.So like H P Maxine says,it matters how much you used a certain gift,before you found Enki.

Hail Enki

Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 12:44 PM
















 









Spend some time doing some more "physical" spiritual workings before power meditation, like kundalini/hatha yoga, breathing exercises and mantra vibrations. These will get your mind ready.



From my experiences, these practices are more newbie friendly than silent power meditation, because as I said before it's much easier to concentrate in something physical than a visualization. You even feel your bioelectricity after doing these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:



i want to meditate, but i simply cannot jump back in that horse.

i have been off meditations for quite alot of time now and its hard going back, i either drift to sleep or think about other things and

by the time i noticed it an hour has passed. so what can i do?

help appreciated!

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]Thanks for explaining your thought to me,I understand where you are going with that now. My only point is,we all are different,and have different strengths and weaknesses that need to be worked on from others.

Hail Enki
Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 6:36 PM

  And then there's the other reason why one may fail in power meditation. Part of your mind has doubts/disturbing thoughts or doesn't really want it. Same when I was new I did concentrate on falling into a trance but part of my mind was like "no you can't fall into a trance, that's impossible" or when I did chakra meditation I had subconscious thoughts like "wtf are you an idiot? Chakras aren't real!!". And I used to fail because of these thoughts, this part of my mind wasn't really into it.

When you do "physical" spiritual exercises, it's easier because your mind has no such doubts if what you're doing is real or not. You're concentrating in something tangible.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

It probably depends on the culture you've grown up and in your heritage too. I'm mostly referring to the western culture where people are focused on the material, are dominated by the left brain and want tangible results with everything. I mean, how many newbies come here and say "what can I do to bring money" or "want physical proof of Satan, want him to contact me" or ask about summoning a God and want a quick experience like that? Many people are like this and are not satisfied with something that isn't real or tangible such as a visualization, so they have trouble doing these.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

That can be true some but not all the_fire_starter666.For me personally it was the visualizations that I found the easiest to do,rather then the physical stuff.So I think it just depends on the person and their natural abilities.But then again being of Native American Heritage,I have done a lot of vision questing before I found this group too.So like H P Maxine says,it matters how much you used a certain gift,before you found Enki.

Hail Enki

Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
To: <a rel="nofollow">[email protected]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 12:44 PM
















 









Spend some time doing some more "physical" spiritual workings before power meditation, like kundalini/hatha yoga, breathing exercises and mantra vibrations. These will get your mind ready.



From my experiences, these practices are more newbie friendly than silent power meditation, because as I said before it's much easier to concentrate in something physical than a visualization. You even feel your bioelectricity after doing these.



--- [/IMG][email protected], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:



i want to meditate, but i simply cannot jump back in that horse.

i have been off meditations for quite alot of time now and its hard going back, i either drift to sleep or think about other things and

by the time i noticed it an hour has passed. so what can i do?

help appreciated!

[/TD]

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]I am of the opinion Carlos,that Father Enki gives us what we need in respect too our dedication.I was a xtian minister for many years,and worked very strong against Enki for so long.So in my case I need the voices to tell me that.But maybe that is not necessary for you.Plus the fact that if you are not open astrally,that has a lot to do with it.But if you have read my other post,you can see that I needed it because of my disrespectful past.So don't ever think that you are not excepted by Enki,because as I have proved if you are not a jew,then that is not the case. 

Hail Enki
Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, Carlos <direthirst@... wrote:

From: Carlos <direthirst@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] help
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 4:57 AM

  after my dedication ritual I have tried meditation and failed. I haven't been able to connect with neither Lucifer nor the Gods. I don't know if I did anything wrong but I really wanted to be closer.
Please help

[/TD]

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]It is never to late to start your meditations over,as many times as you have too.Just do not give up on yourself completely,or on what out great creator God gave you.Everyone of us is needed for the spiritual fight.

Hail Enki
Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, qplayer37 <qplayer37@... wrote:

From: qplayer37 <qplayer37@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] help
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 9:34 AM

  i want to meditate, but i simply cannot jump back in that horse.
i have been off meditations for quite alot of time now and its hard going back, i either drift to sleep or think about other things and
by the time i noticed it an hour has passed. so what can i do?
help appreciated!

[/TD]

 

[magus_7070]

Greetings  Carlos plz be patient it has been over 2 yrs since i have dedicated i havent seen or communicated with FATHER or any other power of hell but i know they are there and they always help.Dont insist on seeing them know that they are out there and they will always help you.
 HAIL EA/ENKIHAIL MARDUK/RAHAIL LORD NABUHAIL ANUBISHAIL AGARES

From: Carlos <direthirst@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 11:57 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] help

  after my dedication ritual I have tried meditation and failed. I haven't been able to connect with neither Lucifer nor the Gods. I don't know if I did anything wrong but I really wanted to be closer.
Please help

 

[Anonymous]

I had trouble myself. The first time I ever tried to summon a demon I felt kind of silly. However, for each ritual I ever did I always recieved an answer and results from having made the request. I also once had something happen on the the physical plane related to demonic activity. My partner thinks its coincidence, but its perfectly fitting for the description of the demon.  However, I have yet to see or hear a demon during a summons. Each demon probably really showed up, as I did feel peaceful and spiritual, its just that I didn't see anything.  For some reason the power mediations have been more impressive in my mind. I have never had a such a large spark appear on my base chakra from doing meditation until I tried the jos power meditations. I wasn't expecting that, and I already was sure that it was the correct meditation, so the physical manefestation was more of a confirmation, not something I sought for proof.
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
 

<td style="font:[/IMG]ya good point!

Hail Enki
Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 6:10 PM

  It probably depends on the culture you've grown up and in your heritage too. I'm mostly referring to the western culture where people are focused on the material, are dominated by the left brain and want tangible results with everything. I mean, how many newbies come here and say "what can I do to bring money" or "want physical proof of Satan, want him to contact me" or ask about summoning a God and want a quick experience like that? Many people are like this and are not satisfied with something that isn't real or tangible such as a visualization, so they have trouble doing these.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

That can be true some but not all the_fire_starter666.For me personally it was the visualizations that I found the easiest to do,rather then the physical stuff.So I think it just depends on the person and their natural abilities.But then again being of Native American Heritage,I have done a lot of vision questing before I found this group too.So like H P Maxine says,it matters how much you used a certain gift,before you found Enki.

Hail Enki

Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
To: <a rel="nofollow">[email protected]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 12:44 PM
















 









Spend some time doing some more "physical" spiritual workings before power meditation, like kundalini/hatha yoga, breathing exercises and mantra vibrations. These will get your mind ready.



From my experiences, these practices are more newbie friendly than silent power meditation, because as I said before it's much easier to concentrate in something physical than a visualization. You even feel your bioelectricity after doing these.



--- [/IMG][email protected], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:



i want to meditate, but i simply cannot jump back in that horse.

i have been off meditations for quite alot of time now and its hard going back, i either drift to sleep or think about other things and

by the time i noticed it an hour has passed. so what can i do?

help appreciated!

[/TD]

 

[[email protected]]

Best I can say Is that the sooner you get back into it the sooner you can get back to advancing yourself.  It will most likely take quite some time to get back to where you were so the thing to remember here is that you really outta get started HERE AND NOW.
Just telling the truth
Hope this helps
Hail Satan 

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

 

<td val[/IMG]It is never to late to start your meditations over,as many times as you have too.Just do not give up on yourself completely,or on what out great creator God gave you.Everyone of us is needed for the spiritual fight.

Hail Enki
Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, qplayer37 <qplayer37@... wrote:

From: qplayer37 <qplayer37@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] help
To: [e[/IMG][email protected][/email][/url]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 9:34 AM

  i want to meditate, but i simply cannot jump back in that horse.
i have been off meditations for quite alot of time now and its hard going back, i either drift to sleep or think about other things and
by the time i noticed it an hour has passed. so what can i do?
help appreciated!

[/TD]

=

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]I am working constantly on both my astral sight and hearing,by doing the openings everyday,as well as penal meditations.I have not seen anything yet either,and have had what are think are telepathic messages form some of the Gods,but I am not even completely sure of that.But I trust that if we both keep working on it,then one day it will happen for us,as it has for others.

Hail Enki
Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, Enki's Friend <enkisfriend@... wrote:

From: Enki's Friend <enkisfriend@...
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 10:24 PM

  I had trouble myself. The first time I ever tried to summon a demon I felt kind of silly. However, for each ritual I ever did I always recieved an answer and results from having made the request. I also once had something happen on the the physical plane related to demonic activity. My partner thinks its coincidence, but its perfectly fitting for the description of the demon.  However, I have yet to see or hear a demon during a summons. Each demon probably really showed up, as I did feel peaceful and spiritual, its just that I didn't see anything.  For some reason the power mediations have been more impressive in my mind. I have never had a such a large spark appear on my base chakra from doing meditation until I tried the jos power meditations. I wasn't expecting that, and I already was sure that it was the correct meditation, so the physical manefestation was more of a confirmation, not something I sought for proof.
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
 

<td style="font:[/IMG]ya good point!

Hail Enki
Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 6:10 PM

  It probably depends on the culture you've grown up and in your heritage too. I'm mostly referring to the western culture where people are focused on the material, are dominated by the left brain and want tangible results with everything. I mean, how many newbies come here and say "what can I do to bring money" or "want physical proof of Satan, want him to contact me" or ask about summoning a God and want a quick experience like that? Many people are like this and are not satisfied with something that isn't real or tangible such as a visualization, so they have trouble doing these.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

That can be true some but not all the_fire_starter666.For me personally it was the visualizations that I found the easiest to do,rather then the physical stuff.So I think it just depends on the person and their natural abilities.But then again being of Native American Heritage,I have done a lot of vision questing before I found this group too.So like H P Maxine says,it matters how much you used a certain gift,before you found Enki.

Hail Enki

Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
To: <a rel="nofollow">[email protected]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 12:44 PM
















 









Spend some time doing some more "physical" spiritual workings before power meditation, like kundalini/hatha yoga, breathing exercises and mantra vibrations. These will get your mind ready.



From my experiences, these practices are more newbie friendly than silent power meditation, because as I said before it's much easier to concentrate in something physical than a visualization. You even feel your bioelectricity after doing these.



--- [/IMG][email protected], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:



i want to meditate, but i simply cannot jump back in that horse.

i have been off meditations for quite alot of time now and its hard going back, i either drift to sleep or think about other things and

by the time i noticed it an hour has passed. so what can i do?

help appreciated!

[/TD]

[/TD]

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]Same here magus,I will just keep working towards the goal until it does.And then one day when it happens,and I can fully communicate with Haagenti,then the advancement toward Godhood will happen as it is suppose too.Never say never.

Hail Enki
Brian 

--- On Mon, 4/30/12, magus_7070 <magus_7070@... wrote:

From: magus_7070 <magus_7070@...
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] help
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Date: Monday, April 30, 2012, 5:52 AM

  Greetings  Carlos plz be patient it has been over 2 yrs since i have dedicated i havent seen or communicated with FATHER or any other power of hell but i know they are there and they always help.Dont insist on seeing them know that they are out there and they will always help you.
 HAIL EA/ENKIHAIL MARDUK/RAHAIL LORD NABUHAIL ANUBISHAIL AGARES

From: Carlos <direthirst@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 11:57 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] help

  after my dedication ritual I have tried meditation and failed. I haven't been able to connect with neither Lucifer nor the Gods. I don't know if I did anything wrong but I really wanted to be closer.
Please help

[/TD]

 

[qplayer37]

i used to meditate and get the feeling of floating, but let me tell you how long it has been....almost a year and a few months.i read all replyes and firestarters mesages was the one that got to me and i will do physical stuff like u say in ur 1st post, but i wont be expecting much but ill try it.wish me luck!

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

And then there's the other reason why one may fail in power meditation. Part of your mind has doubts/disturbing thoughts or doesn't really want it. Same when I was new I did concentrate on falling into a trance but part of my mind was like "no you can't fall into a trance, that's impossible" or when I did chakra meditation I had subconscious thoughts like "wtf are you an idiot? Chakras aren't real!!". And I used to fail because of these thoughts, this part of my mind wasn't really into it.

When you do "physical" spiritual exercises, it's easier because your mind has no such doubts if what you're doing is real or not. You're concentrating in something tangible.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

It probably depends on the culture you've grown up and in your heritage too. I'm mostly referring to the western culture where people are focused on the material, are dominated by the left brain and want tangible results with everything. I mean, how many newbies come here and say "what can I do to bring money" or "want physical proof of Satan, want him to contact me" or ask about summoning a God and want a quick experience like that? Many people are like this and are not satisfied with something that isn't real or tangible such as a visualization, so they have trouble doing these.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

That can be true some but not all the_fire_starter666.For me personally it was the visualizations that I found the easiest to do,rather then the physical stuff.So I think it just depends on the person and their natural abilities.But then again being of Native American Heritage,I have done a lot of vision questing before I found this group too.So like H P Maxine says,it matters how much you used a certain gift,before you found Enki.

Hail Enki

Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 12:44 PM
















 









Spend some time doing some more "physical" spiritual workings before power meditation, like kundalini/hatha yoga, breathing exercises and mantra vibrations. These will get your mind ready.



From my experiences, these practices are more newbie friendly than silent power meditation, because as I said before it's much easier to concentrate in something physical than a visualization. You even feel your bioelectricity after doing these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:



i want to meditate, but i simply cannot jump back in that horse.

i have been off meditations for quite alot of time now and its hard going back, i either drift to sleep or think about other things and

by the time i noticed it an hour has passed. so what can i do?

help appreciated!

 

[Carlos Estevez]

Then what should I do. Nothing has happened after my dedication and I really want to experience meeting them and learning much more

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]Consistancy and patience is the key and you will get there.Those are the hardest things about this spritualtity in my opinion.Hang in there.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]

From: Carlos Estevez <direthirst@...;
To: [email protected] <[email protected];
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] help
Sent: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 1:15:36 PM

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Carlos, you're just being impatient. Your dedication was only a WEEK and a few days ago. You don't really expect serious things to happen within a week, do you?

And opening the astral senses can take years, you shouldn't expect instantly to communicate telepathically with anyone, these are siddhis/psychic powers which take time to develop them if you are not born having them.

You should be on the look for signs, that's how the Gods communicate with you if you're not astrally open.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Carlos Estevez <direthirst@... wrote:

Then what should I do. Nothing has happened after my dedication and I really want to experience meeting them and learning much more

 

[the_fire_starter666]

It has to do with motivation too, maybe 1 1/2 year ago you were into it and enjoying it but now you see it as a chore or something? This can cause your mind to turn away.

Always try to make your power meditations as fun as possible, never force yourself and choose a time when your mind is into it. You should have the mindset of doing the meditations just to have a fun time, without expecting anything without forcing yourself to obtain anything. That's when they really work, when you are completely interested in the meditations and you like them.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@... wrote:

i used to meditate and get the feeling of floating, but let me tell you how long it has been....almost a year and a few months.i read all replyes and firestarters mesages was the one that got to me and i will do physical stuff like u say in ur 1st post, but i wont be expecting much but ill try it.wish me luck!

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And then there's the other reason why one may fail in power meditation. Part of your mind has doubts/disturbing thoughts or doesn't really want it. Same when I was new I did concentrate on falling into a trance but part of my mind was like "no you can't fall into a trance, that's impossible" or when I did chakra meditation I had subconscious thoughts like "wtf are you an idiot? Chakras aren't real!!". And I used to fail because of these thoughts, this part of my mind wasn't really into it.

When you do "physical" spiritual exercises, it's easier because your mind has no such doubts if what you're doing is real or not. You're concentrating in something tangible.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

It probably depends on the culture you've grown up and in your heritage too. I'm mostly referring to the western culture where people are focused on the material, are dominated by the left brain and want tangible results with everything. I mean, how many newbies come here and say "what can I do to bring money" or "want physical proof of Satan, want him to contact me" or ask about summoning a God and want a quick experience like that? Many people are like this and are not satisfied with something that isn't real or tangible such as a visualization, so they have trouble doing these.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

That can be true some but not all the_fire_starter666.For me personally it was the visualizations that I found the easiest to do,rather then the physical stuff.So I think it just depends on the person and their natural abilities.But then again being of Native American Heritage,I have done a lot of vision questing before I found this group too.So like H P Maxine says,it matters how much you used a certain gift,before you found Enki.

Hail Enki

Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 12:44 PM
















 









Spend some time doing some more "physical" spiritual workings before power meditation, like kundalini/hatha yoga, breathing exercises and mantra vibrations. These will get your mind ready.



From my experiences, these practices are more newbie friendly than silent power meditation, because as I said before it's much easier to concentrate in something physical than a visualization. You even feel your bioelectricity after doing these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:



i want to meditate, but i simply cannot jump back in that horse.

i have been off meditations for quite alot of time now and its hard going back, i either drift to sleep or think about other things and

by the time i noticed it an hour has passed. so what can i do?

help appreciated!

 

[Carlos]

Ok I will be more patient I was just not sure if they were aware of me.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

Carlos, you're just being impatient. Your dedication was only a WEEK and a few days ago. You don't really expect serious things to happen within a week, do you?

And opening the astral senses can take years, you shouldn't expect instantly to communicate telepathically with anyone, these are siddhis/psychic powers which take time to develop them if you are not born having them.

You should be on the look for signs, that's how the Gods communicate with you if you're not astrally open.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Carlos Estevez <direthirst@ wrote:

Then what should I do. Nothing has happened after my dedication and I really want to experience meeting them and learning much more

 

[magus]

MEDITATE YOU WILL ATTRACT THE RIGHT ENERGY WHEN U R OPEN U WILL SEE THEM.JUST KNOW THEY ARE THERE AND THEY WILL HELP ASK FATHER OR OTHER POWERS TO HELP THEY NEVER LET US DOWN
 HAIL EA/ENKIHAIL MARDUK/RAHAIL LORD NABUHAIL ANUBIS
HAIL AGARES

From: Carlos Estevez <direthirst@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] help

  Then what should I do. Nothing has happened after my dedication and I really want to experience meeting them and learning much more

 

[kasandrab666]

I agree with Magus 75. Carlos you should be less focused on experiencing them and more focused on meditating and opening up your psychic centers. Try to open yourself up when you meditate and just feel the energy around you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], magus <magus_75@... wrote:

MEDITATE YOU WILL ATTRACT THE RIGHT ENERGY WHEN U R OPEN U WILL SEE THEM.JUST KNOW THEY ARE THERE AND THEY WILL HELP ASK FATHER OR OTHER POWERS TO HELP THEY NEVER LET US DOWN

 
HAIL EA/ENKI
HAIL MARDUK/RA
HAIL LORD NABU
HAIL ANUBIS
HAIL AGARES




________________________________
From: Carlos Estevez <direthirst@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] help


 
Then what should I do. Nothing has happened after my dedication and I really want to experience meeting them and learning much more

 

[qplayer37]

k ill try this post aswell and see if it works...thank you!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

It has to do with motivation too, maybe 1 1/2 year ago you were into it and enjoying it but now you see it as a chore or something? This can cause your mind to turn away.

Always try to make your power meditations as fun as possible, never force yourself and choose a time when your mind is into it. You should have the mindset of doing the meditations just to have a fun time, without expecting anything without forcing yourself to obtain anything. That's when they really work, when you are completely interested in the meditations and you like them.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:

i used to meditate and get the feeling of floating, but let me tell you how long it has been....almost a year and a few months.i read all replyes and firestarters mesages was the one that got to me and i will do physical stuff like u say in ur 1st post, but i wont be expecting much but ill try it.wish me luck!

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And then there's the other reason why one may fail in power meditation. Part of your mind has doubts/disturbing thoughts or doesn't really want it. Same when I was new I did concentrate on falling into a trance but part of my mind was like "no you can't fall into a trance, that's impossible" or when I did chakra meditation I had subconscious thoughts like "wtf are you an idiot? Chakras aren't real!!". And I used to fail because of these thoughts, this part of my mind wasn't really into it.

When you do "physical" spiritual exercises, it's easier because your mind has no such doubts if what you're doing is real or not. You're concentrating in something tangible.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

It probably depends on the culture you've grown up and in your heritage too. I'm mostly referring to the western culture where people are focused on the material, are dominated by the left brain and want tangible results with everything. I mean, how many newbies come here and say "what can I do to bring money" or "want physical proof of Satan, want him to contact me" or ask about summoning a God and want a quick experience like that? Many people are like this and are not satisfied with something that isn't real or tangible such as a visualization, so they have trouble doing these.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

That can be true some but not all the_fire_starter666.For me personally it was the visualizations that I found the easiest to do,rather then the physical stuff.So I think it just depends on the person and their natural abilities.But then again being of Native American Heritage,I have done a lot of vision questing before I found this group too.So like H P Maxine says,it matters how much you used a certain gift,before you found Enki.

Hail Enki

Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 12:44 PM
















 









Spend some time doing some more "physical" spiritual workings before power meditation, like kundalini/hatha yoga, breathing exercises and mantra vibrations. These will get your mind ready.



From my experiences, these practices are more newbie friendly than silent power meditation, because as I said before it's much easier to concentrate in something physical than a visualization. You even feel your bioelectricity after doing these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:



i want to meditate, but i simply cannot jump back in that horse.

i have been off meditations for quite alot of time now and its hard going back, i either drift to sleep or think about other things and

by the time i noticed it an hour has passed. so what can i do?

help appreciated!

 

[Celina]

Thank you fire starter. These statements: "Always try to make your power meditations as fun as possible" and "That's when they really work, when you are completely interested in the meditations and you like them". really clicked for me. Thanks again. I love reading your posts; always helpful and informative. Darkest Blessings!

HAIL SATAN!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

It has to do with motivation too, maybe 1 1/2 year ago you were into it and enjoying it but now you see it as a chore or something? This can cause your mind to turn away.

Always try to make your power meditations as fun as possible, never force yourself and choose a time when your mind is into it. You should have the mindset of doing the meditations just to have a fun time, without expecting anything without forcing yourself to obtain anything. That's when they really work, when you are completely interested in the meditations and you like them.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:

i used to meditate and get the feeling of floating, but let me tell you how long it has been....almost a year and a few months.i read all replyes and firestarters mesages was the one that got to me and i will do physical stuff like u say in ur 1st post, but i wont be expecting much but ill try it.wish me luck!

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And then there's the other reason why one may fail in power meditation. Part of your mind has doubts/disturbing thoughts or doesn't really want it. Same when I was new I did concentrate on falling into a trance but part of my mind was like "no you can't fall into a trance, that's impossible" or when I did chakra meditation I had subconscious thoughts like "wtf are you an idiot? Chakras aren't real!!". And I used to fail because of these thoughts, this part of my mind wasn't really into it.

When you do "physical" spiritual exercises, it's easier because your mind has no such doubts if what you're doing is real or not. You're concentrating in something tangible.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

It probably depends on the culture you've grown up and in your heritage too. I'm mostly referring to the western culture where people are focused on the material, are dominated by the left brain and want tangible results with everything. I mean, how many newbies come here and say "what can I do to bring money" or "want physical proof of Satan, want him to contact me" or ask about summoning a God and want a quick experience like that? Many people are like this and are not satisfied with something that isn't real or tangible such as a visualization, so they have trouble doing these.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

That can be true some but not all the_fire_starter666.For me personally it was the visualizations that I found the easiest to do,rather then the physical stuff.So I think it just depends on the person and their natural abilities.But then again being of Native American Heritage,I have done a lot of vision questing before I found this group too.So like H P Maxine says,it matters how much you used a certain gift,before you found Enki.

Hail Enki

Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: help
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 12:44 PM
















 









Spend some time doing some more "physical" spiritual workings before power meditation, like kundalini/hatha yoga, breathing exercises and mantra vibrations. These will get your mind ready.



From my experiences, these practices are more newbie friendly than silent power meditation, because as I said before it's much easier to concentrate in something physical than a visualization. You even feel your bioelectricity after doing these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:



i want to meditate, but i simply cannot jump back in that horse.

i have been off meditations for quite alot of time now and its hard going back, i either drift to sleep or think about other things and

by the time i noticed it an hour has passed. so what can i do?

help appreciated!

 

[Jonah]

im trying to find information on satanism i found this place wile serfing the internet im trying to get information to understand whats going on so please contact me and help me to understand i am currently a unorthodox pagen after switching from chritianity this was very interesting and somthing i might like to really be a part of so please contact me and help me to understand all this

 

[Brian Gibbons]

joyofsatan.org Please read this sight fully and you will understand all you need to know.Welcome and glad your here.
 Hail Satan
Brian 

From: Jonah <jonaha.horton@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:27 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] help

  im trying to find information on satanism i found this place wile serfing the internet im trying to get information to understand whats going on so please contact me and help me to understand i am currently a unorthodox pagen after switching from chritianity this was very interesting and somthing i might like to really be a part of so please contact me and help me to understand all this

 

[keshav92124]

www.joyofsatan.org

Keep on reading....Try on and keep on trying !!Just be confident on Father Satan and yourself.

Good luck.
Hail Satan!!

 

[Shannon Outlaw]

Joyofsatan.org




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On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:27 AM EDT Jonah wrote:

im trying to find information on satanism i found this place wile serfing the internet im trying to get information to understand whats going on so please contact me and help me to understand i am currently a unorthodox pagen after switching from chritianity this was very interesting and somthing i might like to really be a part of so please contact me and help me to understand all this

 

[Andrew1]

hi everyone iam new to this group and i want to be a satanist but the problem is i dont know anything about it can someone give me tips ?! or useful info

 

[Shannon Outlaw]

joyofsatan.org




------------------------------

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 12:23 PM EDT Andrew wrote:

hi everyone iam new to this group and i want to be a satanist but the problem is i dont know anything about it can someone give me tips ?! or useful info

 

[Andrew Chiteme]

go to the Joy of Satan web




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On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 17:23 BST Andrew wrote:

hi everyone iam new to this group and i want to be a satanist but the problem is i dont know anything about it can someone give me tips ?! or useful info