Difficulty Visualizing clairaudience points

[James Makela]

I have a question concerning visualizing my clairaudience points. I have been meditating on opening and empowering them and I can feel them. But when it comes to visualizing them I tend to visualize myself from a third person perspective , like I'm looking at the side of my head from the outside. I'm kinda confused bc when I visualize my clairvoyance points they're right there in front of me on the front of my head, so it's easier to visualize them as opposed to visualize my clairaudience points on the side of my head. I need guidance as to whether I'm visualizing my clairaudience points correctly or not?

Hail Satan
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[Shannon Outlaw]

Well the thing is its best to see them in your point of view. Like if you are sitting on your bed meditating you would see your self in your point of view. I can't explain it but I'm sure a lot of people don't meditate and see themselves looking at themselves. Try to see yourself from your own perspective. When meditating on your clairaudient points just feel your points and see glowing points on the side of your head. I know it may be hard but in the end just do what you can.You are not visualizing wrong you are just visualizing in a different perspective but if you feel that you are empowering your clairaudient points then why not. We all meditate in different ways.




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On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 4:19 PM EDT James Makela wrote:

I have a question concerning visualizing my clairaudience points. I have been meditating on opening and empowering them and I can feel them. But when it comes to visualizing them I tend to visualize myself from a third person perspective , like I'm looking at the side of my head from the outside. I'm kinda confused bc when I visualize my clairvoyance points they're right there in front of me on the front of my head, so it's easier to visualize them as opposed to visualize my clairaudience points on the side of my head. I need guidance as to whether I'm visualizing my clairaudience points correctly or not?

Hail Satan
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[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]Maybe this will help someone too Shannon.What I do is I clean all my chakras starting with the crown and go down including both my inside and outside.Then I start with the base and spin them all.Then I do my shoulders hips and hands and feet.Then I do my hears eyes penal aura of protection an then I do my wings and twin serpent and finally Mer ka bah.But like you said its just what I do everyday.If anyone wants to the can use mine or make their own.But I have been doing it that way now for over a year.I also do money Runes that are improving our finances already.


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From: Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@...;
To: <[email protected];
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Difficulty Visualizing clairaudience points
Sent: Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:28:17 PM

<td val[/IMG]  
Well the thing is its best to see them in your point of view. Like if you are sitting on your bed meditating you would see your self in your point of view. I can't explain it but I'm sure a lot of people don't meditate and see themselves looking at themselves. Try to see yourself from your own perspective. When meditating on your clairaudient points just feel your points and see glowing points on the side of your head. I know it may be hard but in the end just do what you can.You are not visualizing wrong you are just visualizing in a different perspective but if you feel that you are empowering your clairaudient points then why not. We all meditate in different ways.

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On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 4:19 PM EDT James Makela wrote:

I have a question concerning visualizing my clairaudience points. I have been meditating on opening and empowering them and I can feel them. But when it comes to visualizing them I tend to visualize myself from a third person perspective , like I'm looking at the side of my head from the outside. I'm kinda confused bc when I visualize my clairvoyance points they're right there in front of me on the front of my head, so it's easier to visualize them as opposed to visualize my clairaudience points on the side of my head. I need guidance as to whether I'm visualizing my clairaudience points correctly or not?

Hail Satan
Sent from my iPhone

[/TD]

 

[Rip_SFrancois]

That was a question I was going to ask actually Shannon.

So i'm NOT supposed to meditate and see myself in 3rd person?
Like for aligning the chakra's I have to imagine myself in 3rd person and then imagine the arrows on my body (like imagine sitting about 2 foot behind yourself and just visualising your own body and surroundings).
How am I supposed to visualise my chakra's and clairaudience points? Do I just need to try and focus at one point of my body at one time and thats focusing on it?

Does it get easier once i've opened my 3rd eye (Failed to attempt this yet so i'll be needing to attempt this over the next few days)

 

[ch_3_coo]

Personally I find feeling them to be more effective and easier, feel them then try to visualize. Then I get a pulsing and a lightness feeling on whatever I was trying to empower when I stop.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], James Makela <amaracer113@... wrote:

I have a question concerning visualizing my clairaudience points. I have been meditating on opening and empowering them and I can feel them. But when it comes to visualizing them I tend to visualize myself from a third person perspective , like I'm looking at the side of my head from the outside. I'm kinda confused bc when I visualize my clairvoyance points they're right there in front of me on the front of my head, so it's easier to visualize them as opposed to visualize my clairaudience points on the side of my head. I need guidance as to whether I'm visualizing my clairaudience points correctly or not?

Hail Satan
Sent from my iPhone

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]You can look for the location of then on joyofsatan.org.


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From: Rip_SFrancois <stuartrfrancis@...;
To: [email protected] <[email protected];
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Difficulty Visualizing clairaudience points
Sent: Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:36:03 PM

<td val[/IMG]   That was a question I was going to ask actually Shannon.

So i'm NOT supposed to meditate and see myself in 3rd person?
Like for aligning the chakra's I have to imagine myself in 3rd person and then imagine the arrows on my body (like imagine sitting about 2 foot behind yourself and just visualising your own body and surroundings).
How am I supposed to visualise my chakra's and clairaudience points? Do I just need to try and focus at one point of my body at one time and thats focusing on it?

Does it get easier once i've opened my 3rd eye (Failed to attempt this yet so i'll be needing to attempt this over the next few days)

[/TD]

 

[En Haradren Amlug]

I think what Shannon was getting across is that its a personal thing.
For me, I tend to do a bit of both whilst visualising. For instance, the Clairaudience points as in the original question, I have the same problem time to time. And I find seeing myself from a 'third person' view to be much easier, and sometimes I can just concentrate better in this way rather than 'first person'.

Usually when I empower my chakras, I am simply focusing on the chakra, seeing only that and the rough area on my body, as well as feeling it. This is where it gets a little tricky. I tend to see two images at once, if that even makes sence, almost over lapping, but I can see both very clearly. So I see my base chakra on its own for example, but also see myself sitting and see it spinning where it should be.

And yes, visualisation gets a lot easier once the third eye is open, the third eye and sixth chakra are the chakras for clairvoyance and astral sight. If you haven't opened your chakras, I suggest doing this before doing any major empowering or aligning work on them.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En Haradren Amlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Rip_SFrancois <stuartrfrancis@... wrote:

That was a question I was going to ask actually Shannon.

So i'm NOT supposed to meditate and see myself in 3rd person?
Like for aligning the chakra's I have to imagine myself in 3rd person and then imagine the arrows on my body (like imagine sitting about 2 foot behind yourself and just visualising your own body and surroundings).
How am I supposed to visualise my chakra's and clairaudience points? Do I just need to try and focus at one point of my body at one time and thats focusing on it?

Does it get easier once i've opened my 3rd eye (Failed to attempt this yet so i'll be needing to attempt this over the next few days)

 

[En Haradren Amlug]

This is fine, I too find it easier to view myself in a 'third person' kind of view from time to time. It just helps me to concentrate better.
A part of Astral projection is to look back at yourself and see you sitting there, as your astral/spirit body leaves your physical body. So it is a good practice, though there is a difference. During meditation, you are simply expanding your conciousness outside of your body. Astral projection your spirit/astral body is leaving the physical body.
Remember Satanism is personal, what works for someone else may not work as well for you. And like-wise, something that works for you, may not for someone else. If it works for you, you feel it working and its comfortable, then keep doing this.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En Haradren Amlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], James Makela <amaracer113@... wrote:

I have a question concerning visualizing my clairaudience points. I have been meditating on opening and empowering them and I can feel them. But when it comes to visualizing them I tend to visualize myself from a third person perspective , like I'm looking at the side of my head from the outside. I'm kinda confused bc when I visualize my clairvoyance points they're right there in front of me on the front of my head, so it's easier to visualize them as opposed to visualize my clairaudience points on the side of my head. I need guidance as to whether I'm visualizing my clairaudience points correctly or not?

Hail Satan
Sent from my iPhone

 

[En Haradren Amlug]

I think you missed the point of what was being asked Brian, about how one visualises themselves whilst visualising, and visualising the chakras spicifically.

-En Haradren Amlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

Maybe this will help someone too Shannon.What I do is I clean all my chakras starting with the crown and go down including both my inside and outside.Then I start with the base and spin them all.Then I do my shoulders hips and hands and feet.Then I do my hears eyes penal aura of protection an then I do my wings and twin serpent and finally Mer ka bah.But like you said its just what I do everyday.If anyone wants to the can use mine or make their own.But I have been doing it that way now for over a year.I also do money Runes that are improving our finances already.


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[Brian Gibbons]

Yes I realize I didn't totally answer the question.But then again I wasn't trying to,because that has never been necessary for me to visualize myself as a second person. I was just sharing a way that I use to remember to empower all the all the chakras daily.

 Hail Satan
Brian 

From: En Haradren Amlug <hecktic_shadow@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:16 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Difficulty Visualizing clairaudience points

  I think you missed the point of what was being asked Brian, about how one visualises themselves whilst visualising, and visualising the chakras spicifically.

-En Haradren Amlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

Maybe this will help someone too Shannon.What I do is I clean all my chakras starting with the crown and go down including both my inside and outside.Then I start with the base and spin them all.Then I do my shoulders hips and hands and feet.Then I do my hears eyes penal aura of protection an then I do my wings and twin serpent and finally Mer ka bah.But like you said its just what I do everyday.If anyone wants to the can use mine or make their own.But I have been doing it that way now for over a year.I also do money Runes that are improving our finances already.


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[Brian Gibbons]

And too I know I am not as advanced as most on here,nor do I claim to be.I just simply try to give suggestions that may help others in the group.Satan and our Demon friends want us to share our own experiences in the group,which is the purpose of this egroup,and that was all I was doing.

 Hail Satan
Brian 

From: En Haradren Amlug <hecktic_shadow@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:16 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Difficulty Visualizing clairaudience points

  I think you missed the point of what was being asked Brian, about how one visualises themselves whilst visualising, and visualising the chakras spicifically.

-En Haradren Amlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

Maybe this will help someone too Shannon.What I do is I clean all my chakras starting with the crown and go down including both my inside and outside.Then I start with the base and spin them all.Then I do my shoulders hips and hands and feet.Then I do my hears eyes penal aura of protection an then I do my wings and twin serpent and finally Mer ka bah.But like you said its just what I do everyday.If anyone wants to the can use mine or make their own.But I have been doing it that way now for over a year.I also do money Runes that are improving our finances already.


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[Brian Gibbons]

Exactly,and my powers of visualization have always been great,which is why I have no need to view myself out side of myself.But please excuse me for not addressing that part of the question.But the part I was addressing was about how to clean and spin.So I was just sharing something that my GD showed me in the beginning.

 Hail Satan
Brian 

From: En Haradren Amlug <hecktic_shadow@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:15 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Difficulty Visualizing clairaudience points

  This is fine, I too find it easier to view myself in a 'third person' kind of view from time to time. It just helps me to concentrate better.
A part of Astral projection is to look back at yourself and see you sitting there, as your astral/spirit body leaves your physical body. So it is a good practice, though there is a difference. During meditation, you are simply expanding your conciousness outside of your body. Astral projection your spirit/astral body is leaving the physical body.
Remember Satanism is personal, what works for someone else may not work as well for you. And like-wise, something that works for you, may not for someone else. If it works for you, you feel it working and its comfortable, then keep doing this.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En Haradren Amlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], James Makela <amaracer113@... wrote:

I have a question concerning visualizing my clairaudience points. I have been meditating on opening and empowering them and I can feel them. But when it comes to visualizing them I tend to visualize myself from a third person perspective , like I'm looking at the side of my head from the outside. I'm kinda confused bc when I visualize my clairvoyance points they're right there in front of me on the front of my head, so it's easier to visualize them as opposed to visualize my clairaudience points on the side of my head. I need guidance as to whether I'm visualizing my clairaudience points correctly or not?

Hail Satan
Sent from my iPhone

 

[Brian Gibbons]

I have found too that both visualizing and feeling is important too.But you are right it is a personal thing,and what is really cool is,our GD's seem to know what works for us individually.But I still like what my wifes GD came up with for her,that I too use from time to time.Inhaling the energy into the Clairaudience points and then as you exhale you see then spin the speed of light or faster,and they send energy out.That was actually the point of my post.

 Hail Satan
Brian 

From: En Haradren Amlug <hecktic_shadow@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:12 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Difficulty Visualizing clairaudience points

  I think what Shannon was getting across is that its a personal thing.
For me, I tend to do a bit of both whilst visualising. For instance, the Clairaudience points as in the original question, I have the same problem time to time. And I find seeing myself from a 'third person' view to be much easier, and sometimes I can just concentrate better in this way rather than 'first person'.

Usually when I empower my chakras, I am simply focusing on the chakra, seeing only that and the rough area on my body, as well as feeling it. This is where it gets a little tricky. I tend to see two images at once, if that even makes sence, almost over lapping, but I can see both very clearly. So I see my base chakra on its own for example, but also see myself sitting and see it spinning where it should be.

And yes, visualisation gets a lot easier once the third eye is open, the third eye and sixth chakra are the chakras for clairvoyance and astral sight. If you haven't opened your chakras, I suggest doing this before doing any major empowering or aligning work on them.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En Haradren Amlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Rip_SFrancois <stuartrfrancis@... wrote:

That was a question I was going to ask actually Shannon.

So i'm NOT supposed to meditate and see myself in 3rd person?
Like for aligning the chakra's I have to imagine myself in 3rd person and then imagine the arrows on my body (like imagine sitting about 2 foot behind yourself and just visualising your own body and surroundings).
How am I supposed to visualise my chakra's and clairaudience points? Do I just need to try and focus at one point of my body at one time and thats focusing on it?

Does it get easier once i've opened my 3rd eye (Failed to attempt this yet so i'll be needing to attempt this over the next few days)

 

[James Makela]

Thank you for the advice Shannon and Brian, I appreciate it.
Hail Satan!

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 18, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

<td val[/IMG]You can look for the location of then on joyofsatan.org .


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From: Rip_SFrancois <stuartrfrancis@...;
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url];
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Difficulty Visualizing clairaudience points
Sent: Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:36:03 PM

<td val[/IMG]   That was a question I was going to ask actually Shannon.

So i'm NOT supposed to meditate and see myself in 3rd person?
Like for aligning the chakra's I have to imagine myself in 3rd person and then imagine the arrows on my body (like imagine sitting about 2 foot behind yourself and just visualising your own body and surroundings).
How am I supposed to visualise my chakra's and clairaudience points? Do I just need to try and focus at one point of my body at one time and thats focusing on it?

Does it get easier once i've opened my 3rd eye (Failed to attempt this yet so i'll be needing to attempt this over the next few days)

[/TD]

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[James Makela]

Awesome, thank you!

Hail Satan!

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2012, at 1:15 AM, "En Haradren Amlug" <hecktic_shadow@... wrote:

This is fine, I too find it easier to view myself in a 'third person' kind of view from time to time. It just helps me to concentrate better.
A part of Astral projection is to look back at yourself and see you sitting there, as your astral/spirit body leaves your physical body. So it is a good practice, though there is a difference. During meditation, you are simply expanding your conciousness outside of your body. Astral projection your spirit/astral body is leaving the physical body.
Remember Satanism is personal, what works for someone else may not work as well for you. And like-wise, something that works for you, may not for someone else. If it works for you, you feel it working and its comfortable, then keep doing this.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En Haradren Amlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], James Makela <amaracer113@... wrote:

I have a question concerning visualizing my clairaudience points. I have been meditating on opening and empowering them and I can feel them. But when it comes to visualizing them I tend to visualize myself from a third person perspective , like I'm looking at the side of my head from the outside. I'm kinda confused bc when I visualize my clairvoyance points they're right there in front of me on the front of my head, so it's easier to visualize them as opposed to visualize my clairaudience points on the side of my head. I need guidance as to whether I'm visualizing my clairaudience points correctly or not?

Hail Satan
Sent from my iPhone





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