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colony_ss

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Hello everyone and thank you for reading.
So, I am spreading the truth around the internet and a few days ago, I came over this message of someone posting anti-JoS texts. I just wonder can someone debunk or fight this message, telling why it's false? Thank you very much. This is the guy's message:

"As some of you may know there are many out there who oppose Joy Of Satan, of course some for good reasons, others for not so good reasons. I myself do oppose it to a degree, i dislike people who lie and hide behind something bigger than them, in this case my target is Maxine the self proclaimed High priestess who steals information twists a few words gives 0 credit to the original sources and says this information was given to her by Satan or Azazel. I have no respect for individuals such as her.

But the main problem that i have with JOS is that it plays the what i like to call "Reversed Christianity" card and with this system implanting the idea into people that JOS is the one true place to find real and only truth, which in turn creates very arrogant individuals very willing to call people with different views either blind, or Jewish......behaving as if JOS is the ultimate source for Satanists even though Demons were invoked, Satan did speak and results were had by other individuals such as Aliester Crowley long before Maxine was even born. And even long before Aliester.

Maxine once said "question everything" but by question everything of course she means question everything but me. if you question her you must be Jewish or "without"

I am sorry but the notion that Satan is an alien, and that there are national socialists in space, and that Satan is offended by every little thing we do is just absurd to me, i do not buy it one bit, based on my own experiences. There was a time when i trusted all this, but not for a long time now. Just thought about sharing this with you guys. Feel free to disagree if you like, these were just some examples."
 
Ok first off look at the site, do you see all the references? She gives full credit where credit is due. As does Don when he posts a sermon. There are always tons of references. Secondly, the whole were the only way thing. There are secretive organizations that know the truth, but do you see anyone else really promoting truth like the JOS? Lastly, it's hard to see Satan as an alien?
  It's hard to see other life forms in an infinite universe? Where we ourselves exists? Where perhaps beings might be more advanced then us and therefore follow advanced politics such as national socialism? 
  What a tard. Most likely he was too much of a lazy degenerate dumb fuck to think with a little reasoning. To do work to better himself. So, he had to fall back on the eternal victim cult word play. Here's a question to him, why are you still thinking of us? Just move on and get a life, loser. 
 
That's BS. For everyone who knows it's obvious. I'm debunking it here to show you how stupid is what he says:
"I myself do oppose it to a degree, i dislike people who lie and hide behind something bigger than them, in this case my target is Maxine the self proclaimed High priestess who steals information twists a few words gives 0 credit to the original sources and says this information was given to her by Satan or Azazel."
Maxine once said "question everything" but by question everything of course she means question everything but me. if you question her you must be Jewish or "without"

Lie and hide? Nope, first of all HP Maxine never said to believe anything she says. She said to ask Satan if you don't believe her. In fact HP Maxine is far from what that person describes, If you thank her she'll say to you "thank Satan, not me. I'm just an ordinary person". I haven't personally contacted her, but she's been very nice to a person close to me. No arrogance or anything like that. One can also see her posts in the groups.
Secondly, there are parts from the site that came from Satan and others that are researched. HP Maxine had a reading list listing many books where she got the info from. The parts that came from Satan say so directly.
"But the main problem that i have with JOS is that it plays the what i like to call "Reversed Christianity" card "
Again it's BS once again. Reverse christianity is someone who follows christianity upside down and believing the christian version of Satan. Spiritual Satanism has nothing to do with christianity or what it says about Satan.
"with this system implanting the idea into people that JOS is the one true place to find real and only truth, which in turn creates very arrogant individuals very willing to call people with different views either blind, or Jewish......"
What kind of different views does he talk about? First of all, there are people who are proven jews that try to twist Satanism to their agenda. One example is Diane Vera(witz). Believing in the xian version of Satan isn't a "different view". It's a lie that came from christinsanity and the jews. It's a fact that many people who call themselves Satanists either are atheists or believe in jewish lies about Satan and chant jewish mantras like "Samael" and use jewish insults for Satan. These are jewish blasphemies, not "different views". A person who does that is Michael W. Ford.
"behaving as if JOS is the ultimate source for Satanists even though Demons were invoked, Satan did speak and results were had by other individuals such as Aliester Crowley long before Maxine was even born. And even long before Aliester. "
He forgot to mention one important detail: Aleister Crowley wasn't a Satanist nor did he have anything do do with Satan. He in fact practiced jewish magick and abused the Demons using the enemy jewish grimoires. It's been explained before many times by people like HP Don. He was also a meth head who mixed enemy angels with Demons and thought Jewhova's name has some mystical meaning. He practiced the jewish Kabala. Now, what kind of a Satanist follows enemy BS? Yes, he might say that he called himself "the great beast 666" but that was to troll people and nothing more. Overall, Crowley was a meth head and a very disgusting person. He destroyed true occult knowledge, abused women and scammed people.
"I am sorry but the notion that Satan is an alien, and that there are national socialists in space, and that Satan is offended by every little thing we do is just absurd to me, i do not buy it one bit, based on my own experiences. "
What experiences? Real experiences? Did he open his mind and came to Satan with open mind or merely was close minded and experienced what he wanted to believe? This happens from time to time. As well as he twisted some things: offended by every little thing? No, nobody said anything like that. In fact many newbies ask if Satan is angry at them because of some random thing (like parents dragging them to church) and we say "no", Satan isn't offended because he sees their intention. However he is offended if one blasphemes him using the enemy jewish bullshit names and thinks he's evil. It's pretty much like somebody worshiping me calling me "great shithead". That's how insulting that bs is to him. National socialists in space? Sure, why not? Are you close minded to not think of its possibility??
Anyway, the above shows this person is either foolish or hasn't done his research.
 
And to clarify something: One isn't supposed to believe anything her at all, not even what a high priest says. HP Maxine said that many times, that she writes her posts for informational purposes mostly, for those who are curious. But there's a hint: One has to contact Satan being open minded. One has to suspend his disbelief about many things like aliens e.t.c. Think about it: 99% of the time, the truth about things is usually some new concept to us. This is witnessed in many scientific discoveries, like the heliocentric model. People who discovered it were called insane, heretics e.t.c. That's what it's important to release any hard beliefs about the nature of reality you had before talking to Satan. Because otherwise you would hear what you actually want to hear and not the truth, which is usually different from what you would usually expect. Most people bought the political correctness thing so deeply that they want to conform Satan to that political correctness bullshit.
So, in a sense, it's the other pseudo-Satanists who twist things to conform to their preconceived ideas, not Spiritual Satanism. They do it all the time. They use the personal incredulity logical fallacy to dismiss things they can't believe. You may tell that person to look up what "personal incredulity fallacy" is.
HP Maxine in fact said many times that she made mistakes. She never said that she's infallible. One time I remember she made a mistake and a person corrected her and she was like "thanks for correcting me". So she's far from a supposed cult leader the person wants to make her out to be.
Another thing is regarding other "Satanic" groups. I have been in many of them and most of them are based in the catholic version of Satan. Which is nothing more than middle age propaganda invented as an excuse to massmurder witches. Most of the other groups make Satan conform to the dark and evil christian stereotype as well use jewish names and shit about Satan like the jewish "qlippoth" which is the most insulting blasphemy I've ever seen.
So no, they are not legitimate Satanists. They are reverse christians. Others are just Laveyans, i.e. Atheists. There's no reason to use the name Satanism at all. If the claim Satanism is a philosophy they must necessary claim Satan is a real being. All philosophies have been named over real persons. For example, Aristotelianism, Platonism, Epicureanism e.t.c.
The last thing, is a common thing that I've mentioned before for people who claim that the JoS doesn't represent the real Satan. If it doesn't represent the real Satan, then why has it been stood for those many years despite all attacks and even death threats against it???Why does this happen if there's no being protecting it???
 
P.S. #2: In regards to the "Demons were invoked" nonsense he said, he fails to mention the fact that most people used the enemy jewish grimoire methods which were very disrespectful and insulting to the Gods/Daemons. Of course the Demons would lie or troll them if they tried to abused them using jewish methods.
As far as those who invoked the real Gods/Daemons and didn't use jewish methods, they got results similar to the JoS. HP Jake mentioned a Medium called Maria Orsic in Nazi Germany who invoked a being called "Isais" (i.e. ISIS/Astaroth). Guess what she got from her? That he's an extraterrestrial who lived in the constellation of Taurus (near Aldebaran) and that these extraterrestrials helped humanity evolve. That was 60+ years before JoS came to the scene. So you can see, the person clearly hasn't done his research.
 
Correction: That medium who communicated with Astaroth and found she's an extraterrestrial was actually in Thule Society before Nazi Germany. So it's 80+ years before JoS.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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