A Question of Rank and Role. Just Words?

[nephil_improvement]

Just a fleeting thought on the nature of appropriate entitlement, answerable only by those lucky enough to speak with or for Enki and his influential cohorts:

Would these mighty entities whom mortals have long-since branded Demons take kindly to the notion of being instead called Angels, or some other divine rank of providence more suited to their nurturing purpose? Whilst of course keeping their ancient names, I ask only about fair and proper titles.

Furthermore, would Michael and his rabble of winged curs - assuming they exist in a form other than mere collective delusion - not better be damned with names of lesser station?

I suppose my real inquiry is one of comparative semantics. Role reversal seems to be prominent in the literature I've taken in so far, and it lead me to this thought experiment. I mean no offence in the inquiry, to those capable of taking it on the behalf of their Guardians, nor to their Guardians themselves.



~Nephil_Improv

 

[serlya666]

Demon isn't a bad title, calling them an angel would be insulting them, im not 100% sure of the origins of the word Demon (im sure someone else can help with that.) So... yea, calling a Demon an angel would be a big mistake according to what ive learned so far.
Stay Strong
Hail Satan and the Demons of Duat!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "nephil_improvement" <lucid_dreamer_@... wrote:

Just a fleeting thought on the nature of appropriate entitlement, answerable only by those lucky enough to speak with or for Enki and his influential cohorts:

Would these mighty entities whom mortals have long-since branded Demons take kindly to the notion of being instead called Angels, or some other divine rank of providence more suited to their nurturing purpose? Whilst of course keeping their ancient names, I ask only about fair and proper titles.

Furthermore, would Michael and his rabble of winged curs - assuming they exist in a form other than mere collective delusion - not better be damned with names of lesser station?

I suppose my real inquiry is one of comparative semantics. Role reversal seems to be prominent in the literature I've taken in so far, and it lead me to this thought experiment. I mean no offence in the inquiry, to those capable of taking it on the behalf of their Guardians, nor to their Guardians themselves.



~Nephil_Improv

 

[searchingeast666]

The word Demon originates from the Greek word Daemon, meaning "a god" or "one of great wisdom". There is no better title than that, for it is exactly what they are.

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "serlya666" <daughterofenki@... wrote:

Demon isn't a bad title, calling them an angel would be insulting them, im not 100% sure of the origins of the word Demon (im sure someone else can help with that.) So... yea, calling a Demon an angel would be a big mistake according to what ive learned so far.
Stay Strong
Hail Satan and the Demons of Duat!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "nephil_improvement" <lucid_dreamer_@ wrote:

Just a fleeting thought on the nature of appropriate entitlement, answerable only by those lucky enough to speak with or for Enki and his influential cohorts:

Would these mighty entities whom mortals have long-since branded Demons take kindly to the notion of being instead called Angels, or some other divine rank of providence more suited to their nurturing purpose? Whilst of course keeping their ancient names, I ask only about fair and proper titles.

Furthermore, would Michael and his rabble of winged curs - assuming they exist in a form other than mere collective delusion - not better be damned with names of lesser station?

I suppose my real inquiry is one of comparative semantics. Role reversal seems to be prominent in the literature I've taken in so far, and it lead me to this thought experiment. I mean no offence in the inquiry, to those capable of taking it on the behalf of their Guardians, nor to their Guardians themselves.



~Nephil_Improv

 

[kikesmasher71]

Calling them angels or fallen angels is no-no, as the enemy aliens have always used this title and you can attract the attention of an enemy angel this way. Demon is not a insulting word, neither is Satan or Devil, more information about their origins here and here . Devil is from Sanskrit Devi.

If you want to call them something other than Demons, call them Gods. It is a preferrable title too and they're the Gods of Old after all.

--- In [email protected], "nephil_improvement" <lucid_dreamer_@... wrote:

Just a fleeting thought on the nature of appropriate entitlement, answerable only by those lucky enough to speak with or for Enki and his influential cohorts:

Would these mighty entities whom mortals have long-since branded Demons take kindly to the notion of being instead called Angels, or some other divine rank of providence more suited to their nurturing purpose? Whilst of course keeping their ancient names, I ask only about fair and proper titles.

Furthermore, would Michael and his rabble of winged curs - assuming they exist in a form other than mere collective delusion - not better be damned with names of lesser station?

I suppose my real inquiry is one of comparative semantics. Role reversal seems to be prominent in the literature I've taken in so far, and it lead me to this thought experiment. I mean no offence in the inquiry, to those capable of taking it on the behalf of their Guardians, nor to their Guardians themselves.



~Nephil_Improv

 

[nephil_improvement]

I really appreciate your input, and welcome any others who can better inform us

~Nephil_Improv

_________________________

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "serlya666" <daughterofenki@... wrote:

Demon isn't a bad title, calling them an angel would be insulting them, im not 100% sure of the origins of the word Demon (im sure someone else can help with that.) So... yea, calling a Demon an angel would be a big mistake according to what ive learned so far.
Stay Strong
Hail Satan and the Demons of Duat!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "nephil_improvement" <lucid_dreamer_@ wrote:

Just a fleeting thought on the nature of appropriate entitlement, answerable only by those lucky enough to speak with or for Enki and his influential cohorts:

Would these mighty entities whom mortals have long-since branded Demons take kindly to the notion of being instead called Angels, or some other divine rank of providence more suited to their nurturing purpose? Whilst of course keeping their ancient names, I ask only about fair and proper titles.

Furthermore, would Michael and his rabble of winged curs - assuming they exist in a form other than mere collective delusion - not better be damned with names of lesser station?

I suppose my real inquiry is one of comparative semantics. Role reversal seems to be prominent in the literature I've taken in so far, and it lead me to this thought experiment. I mean no offence in the inquiry, to those capable of taking it on the behalf of their Guardians, nor to their Guardians themselves.



~Nephil_Improv

 

[nephil_improvement]

Again, thanks for the input!

I suppose my thoughts were delivered within the constraints of a Judeo-centric syntax. If one was to say Daemon to the 'average' thoughtless layman, one would be summoning up the ignorant image of slobbering red-skinned satyrs, hell-bent on brutality. Pardon the thought.

One of my intentions was to open up discussion on measures that could bring a touch of diplomacy and presentation to the issues so vital to the members of the group. While the website is abundant in explanation and the revelation of so much lies on the part of Christianity, there is a certain amount of seeming self-vilification. A distancing which may be both intentional and necessary in serving the purpose of scaring away the stubborn and the ignorant. The red on black text has been explained by the powerful significance of the colour red in ancient rites [but I did find myself highlighting entire pages for ease of reading].

Maybe my background in art and design is overriding my judgement of important issues. I understand that there is no proselytising inherent in Spiritual Satanism, but there is a certain amount of misinformation to be put to rest and instances of playing up to those common misconceptions for beneficial reason could be harmful in other ways. I liken the issue to celebrities who both use and then condemn the press.

~Nephil_Improv.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@... wrote:

The word Demon originates from the Greek word Daemon, meaning "a god" or "one of great wisdom". There is no better title than that, for it is exactly what they are.

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "serlya666" <daughterofenki@ wrote:

Demon isn't a bad title, calling them an angel would be insulting them, im not 100% sure of the origins of the word Demon (im sure someone else can help with that.) So... yea, calling a Demon an angel would be a big mistake according to what ive learned so far.
Stay Strong
Hail Satan and the Demons of Duat!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "nephil_improvement" <lucid_dreamer_@ wrote:

Just a fleeting thought on the nature of appropriate entitlement, answerable only by those lucky enough to speak with or for Enki and his influential cohorts:

Would these mighty entities whom mortals have long-since branded Demons take kindly to the notion of being instead called Angels, or some other divine rank of providence more suited to their nurturing purpose? Whilst of course keeping their ancient names, I ask only about fair and proper titles.

Furthermore, would Michael and his rabble of winged curs - assuming they exist in a form other than mere collective delusion - not better be damned with names of lesser station?

I suppose my real inquiry is one of comparative semantics. Role reversal seems to be prominent in the literature I've taken in so far, and it lead me to this thought experiment. I mean no offence in the inquiry, to those capable of taking it on the behalf of their Guardians, nor to their Guardians themselves.



~Nephil_Improv

 

[Chris Gano]

I am Greek and we learn ancient Greek in school my wife is a teacher and all I can say is demon is a Greek word for gentle and full of wisdom spirit... No need to say anything else.

Sent from my iPhone

On 15 Oct 2010, at 07:34 PM, "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@... wrote:

  The word Demon originates from the Greek word Daemon, meaning "a god" or "one of great wisdom". There is no better title than that, for it is exactly what they are.

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- [/IMG][email protected][/email][/url], "serlya666" <daughterofenki@... wrote:

Demon isn't a bad title, calling them an angel would be insulting them, im not 100% sure of the origins of the word Demon (im sure someone else can help with that.) So... yea, calling a Demon an angel would be a big mistake according to what ive learned so far.
Stay Strong
Hail Satan and the Demons of Duat!!!

--- [/IMG][email protected][/email][/url], "nephil_improvement" <lucid_dreamer_@ wrote:

Just a fleeting thought on the nature of appropriate entitlement, answerable only by those lucky enough to speak with or for Enki and his influential cohorts:

Would these mighty entities whom mortals have long-since branded Demons take kindly to the notion of being instead called Angels, or some other divine rank of providence more suited to their nurturing purpose? Whilst of course keeping their ancient names, I ask only about fair and proper titles.

Furthermore, would Michael and his rabble of winged curs - assuming they exist in a form other than mere collective delusion - not better be damned with names of lesser station?

I suppose my real inquiry is one of comparative semantics. Role reversal seems to be prominent in the literature I've taken in so far, and it lead me to this thought experiment. I mean no offence in the inquiry, to those capable of taking it on the behalf of their Guardians, nor to their Guardians themselves.



~Nephil_Improv

 

[siguarddraconis]

Okay, than another word, which is as beautiful as "Daimon" - "dragon".

Does "derkein" mean "vision, revelation" or "to see clearly" ?? No surprise that the dragon is One of The Animals of Father now, but I was surprised that it is so, when I read about it more than a year ago

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Chris Gano <chrisganoglou@... wrote:

I am Greek and we learn ancient Greek in school my wife is a teacher and all I can say is demon is a Greek word for gentle and
full of wisdom spirit... No need to say anything else.

Sent from my iPhone

On 15 Oct 2010, at 07:34 PM, "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@... wrote:

The word Demon originates from the Greek word Daemon, meaning "a god" or "one of great wisdom". There is no better title than that, for it is exactly what they are.

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "serlya666" <daughterofenki@ wrote:

Demon isn't a bad title, calling them an angel would be insulting them, im not 100% sure of the origins of the word Demon (im sure someone else can help with that.) So... yea, calling a Demon an angel would be a big mistake according to what ive learned so far.
Stay Strong
Hail Satan and the Demons of Duat!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "nephil_improvement" <lucid_dreamer_@ wrote:

Just a fleeting thought on the nature of appropriate entitlement, answerable only by those lucky enough to speak with or for Enki and his influential cohorts:

Would these mighty entities whom mortals have long-since branded Demons take kindly to the notion of being instead called Angels, or some other divine rank of providence more suited to their nurturing purpose? Whilst of course keeping their ancient names, I ask only about fair and proper titles.

Furthermore, would Michael and his rabble of winged curs - assuming they exist in a form other than mere collective delusion - not better be damned with names of lesser station?

I suppose my real inquiry is one of comparative semantics. Role reversal seems to be prominent in the literature I've taken in so far, and it lead me to this thought experiment. I mean no offence in the inquiry, to those capable of taking it on the behalf of their Guardians, nor to their Guardians themselves.



~Nephil_Improv

 

[Siatris]

Calling them an angel would be very insulting, since angels are a creation of jhvh according to the bible....If you're uncomfortable calling Them Demons, then call Them Gods.

Also, I would label angels as a "divine rank", honor is earned, they've earned nothing but my utmost hatred.

Micheal did exist for a time being. Read more about what angels are here; http://www.exposingchristianity.com/Angels.html

As far as "role reversals" are concerned this seems like something that's going to bite you in the ass. I understand that you could twist something like Demons being Gods into "role-reversal"....and even this were true, just because Sally has orange shoes doesn't mean everyone named Sally is going to have orange shoes. If we were just "reversing roles" we would call our temples; churches, ourselves; christians, the Gentile people; Jews ect.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@... wrote:

The word Demon originates from the Greek word Daemon, meaning "a god" or "one of great wisdom". There is no better title than that, for it is exactly what they are.

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "serlya666" <daughterofenki@ wrote:

Demon isn't a bad title, calling them an angel would be insulting them, im not 100% sure of the origins of the word Demon (im sure someone else can help with that.) So... yea, calling a Demon an angel would be a big mistake according to what ive learned so far.
Stay Strong
Hail Satan and the Demons of Duat!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "nephil_improvement" <lucid_dreamer_@ wrote:

Just a fleeting thought on the nature of appropriate entitlement, answerable only by those lucky enough to speak with or for Enki and his influential cohorts:

Would these mighty entities whom mortals have long-since branded Demons take kindly to the notion of being instead called Angels, or some other divine rank of providence more suited to their nurturing purpose? Whilst of course keeping their ancient names, I ask only about fair and proper titles.

Furthermore, would Michael and his rabble of winged curs - assuming they exist in a form other than mere collective delusion - not better be damned with names of lesser station?

I suppose my real inquiry is one of comparative semantics. Role reversal seems to be prominent in the literature I've taken in so far, and it lead me to this thought experiment. I mean no offence in the inquiry, to those capable of taking it on the behalf of their Guardians, nor to their Guardians themselves.



~Nephil_Improv

 

[kikesmasher71]

There's no self-villification here, xianity changed something beautiful to mean the quite opposite. Baphomets and red and black and any other symbols and colors used in Traditional Satanism are ancient symbols and used to have positive meaning. We're using them in their original meaning. If we were to practice self-villification we would call Satan "prince of darkness", we would use the reverse xian "black mass" and other blasphemous things.

It is the opposite, we take these symbols twisted by the enemy and clean up their meaning and inform people that there's nothing bad or "evil" about them and the enemy is lying. If we used the name Enki and other things instead of these, that would be true self-villification as the enemy would continue to hurl blasphemies and lies against the name "Satan" who is equivalent to Enki. They would continue spreading their lies about the baphomet and colors red and black. Being indifferent to the enemy lies and just using feel good symbols that most brainwashed people have no problem is worse and does nothing to expose the enemy and their lies.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "nephil_improvement" <lucid_dreamer_@... wrote:

Again, thanks for the input!

I suppose my thoughts were delivered within the constraints of a Judeo-centric syntax. If one was to say Daemon to the 'average' thoughtless layman, one would be summoning up the ignorant image of slobbering red-skinned satyrs, hell-bent on brutality. Pardon the thought.

One of my intentions was to open up discussion on measures that could bring a touch of diplomacy and presentation to the issues so vital to the members of the group. While the website is abundant in explanation and the revelation of so much lies on the part of Christianity, there is a certain amount of seeming self-vilification. A distancing which may be both intentional and necessary in serving the purpose of scaring away the stubborn and the ignorant. The red on black text has been explained by the powerful significance of the colour red in ancient rites [but I did find myself highlighting entire pages for ease of reading].

Maybe my background in art and design is overriding my judgement of important issues. I understand that there is no proselytising inherent in Spiritual Satanism, but there is a certain amount of misinformation to be put to rest and instances of playing up to those common misconceptions for beneficial reason could be harmful in other ways. I liken the issue to celebrities who both use and then condemn the press.

~Nephil_Improv.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@ wrote:

The word Demon originates from the Greek word Daemon, meaning "a god" or "one of great wisdom". There is no better title than that, for it is exactly what they are.

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "serlya666" <daughterofenki@ wrote:

Demon isn't a bad title, calling them an angel would be insulting them, im not 100% sure of the origins of the word Demon (im sure someone else can help with that.) So... yea, calling a Demon an angel would be a big mistake according to what ive learned so far.
Stay Strong
Hail Satan and the Demons of Duat!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "nephil_improvement" <lucid_dreamer_@ wrote:

Just a fleeting thought on the nature of appropriate entitlement, answerable only by those lucky enough to speak with or for Enki and his influential cohorts:

Would these mighty entities whom mortals have long-since branded Demons take kindly to the notion of being instead called Angels, or some other divine rank of providence more suited to their nurturing purpose? Whilst of course keeping their ancient names, I ask only about fair and proper titles.

Furthermore, would Michael and his rabble of winged curs - assuming they exist in a form other than mere collective delusion - not better be damned with names of lesser station?

I suppose my real inquiry is one of comparative semantics. Role reversal seems to be prominent in the literature I've taken in so far, and it lead me to this thought experiment. I mean no offence in the inquiry, to those capable of taking it on the behalf of their Guardians, nor to their Guardians themselves.



~Nephil_Improv

 

[nephil_improvement]

Thanks to the replies of several people now I'm in a place of better understanding regarding the suitability of the names and roles used when referring to the Gods.

I'm also pleased to have sparked debate, hopefully people other than me have benefited from the collective efforts made to answer my inquiry.

I wasn't uncomfortable calling them anything in particular, but I did wonder if calling them angel would be inappropriate and it seems overwhelmingly to be the case, even if by calling them that I intended something respectful and self-subordinate.

I stand better informed, many thanks!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Siatris" <rammesses666@... wrote:

Calling them an angel would be very insulting, since angels are a creation of jhvh according to the bible....If you're uncomfortable calling Them Demons, then call Them Gods.

Also, I would label angels as a "divine rank", honor is earned, they've earned nothing but my utmost hatred.

Micheal did exist for a time being. Read more about what angels are here; http://www.exposingchristianity.com/Angels.html

As far as "role reversals" are concerned this seems like something that's going to bite you in the ass. I understand that you could twist something like Demons being Gods into "role-reversal"....and even this were true, just because Sally has orange shoes doesn't mean everyone named Sally is going to have orange shoes. If we were just "reversing roles" we would call our temples; churches, ourselves; christians, the Gentile people; Jews ect.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@ wrote:

The word Demon originates from the Greek word Daemon, meaning "a god" or "one of great wisdom". There is no better title than that, for it is exactly what they are.

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "serlya666" <daughterofenki@ wrote:

Demon isn't a bad title, calling them an angel would be insulting them, im not 100% sure of the origins of the word Demon (im sure someone else can help with that.) So... yea, calling a Demon an angel would be a big mistake according to what ive learned so far.
Stay Strong
Hail Satan and the Demons of Duat!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "nephil_improvement" <lucid_dreamer_@ wrote:

Just a fleeting thought on the nature of appropriate entitlement, answerable only by those lucky enough to speak with or for Enki and his influential cohorts:

Would these mighty entities whom mortals have long-since branded Demons take kindly to the notion of being instead called Angels, or some other divine rank of providence more suited to their nurturing purpose? Whilst of course keeping their ancient names, I ask only about fair and proper titles.

Furthermore, would Michael and his rabble of winged curs - assuming they exist in a form other than mere collective delusion - not better be damned with names of lesser station?

I suppose my real inquiry is one of comparative semantics. Role reversal seems to be prominent in the literature I've taken in so far, and it lead me to this thought experiment. I mean no offence in the inquiry, to those capable of taking it on the behalf of their Guardians, nor to their Guardians themselves.



~Nephil_Improv

 

[nephil_improvement]

A point very well made.

Thank you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kikesmasher71" <kikesmasher71@... wrote:

There's no self-villification here, xianity changed something beautiful to mean the quite opposite. Baphomets and red and black and any other symbols and colors used in Traditional Satanism are ancient symbols and used to have positive meaning. We're using them in their original meaning. If we were to practice self-villification we would call Satan "prince of darkness", we would use the reverse xian "black mass" and other blasphemous things.

It is the opposite, we take these symbols twisted by the enemy and clean up their meaning and inform people that there's nothing bad or "evil" about them and the enemy is lying. If we used the name Enki and other things instead of these, that would be true self-villification as the enemy would continue to hurl blasphemies and lies against the name "Satan" who is equivalent to Enki. They would continue spreading their lies about the baphomet and colors red and black. Being indifferent to the enemy lies and just using feel good symbols that most brainwashed people have no problem is worse and does nothing to expose the enemy and their lies.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "nephil_improvement" <lucid_dreamer_@ wrote:

Again, thanks for the input!

I suppose my thoughts were delivered within the constraints of a Judeo-centric syntax. If one was to say Daemon to the 'average' thoughtless layman, one would be summoning up the ignorant image of slobbering red-skinned satyrs, hell-bent on brutality. Pardon the thought.

One of my intentions was to open up discussion on measures that could bring a touch of diplomacy and presentation to the issues so vital to the members of the group. While the website is abundant in explanation and the revelation of so much lies on the part of Christianity, there is a certain amount of seeming self-vilification. A distancing which may be both intentional and necessary in serving the purpose of scaring away the stubborn and the ignorant. The red on black text has been explained by the powerful significance of the colour red in ancient rites [but I did find myself highlighting entire pages for ease of reading].

Maybe my background in art and design is overriding my judgement of important issues. I understand that there is no proselytising inherent in Spiritual Satanism, but there is a certain amount of misinformation to be put to rest and instances of playing up to those common misconceptions for beneficial reason could be harmful in other ways. I liken the issue to celebrities who both use and then condemn the press.

~Nephil_Improv.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@ wrote:

The word Demon originates from the Greek word Daemon, meaning "a god" or "one of great wisdom". There is no better title than that, for it is exactly what they are.

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "serlya666" <daughterofenki@ wrote:

Demon isn't a bad title, calling them an angel would be insulting them, im not 100% sure of the origins of the word Demon (im sure someone else can help with that.) So... yea, calling a Demon an angel would be a big mistake according to what ive learned so far.
Stay Strong
Hail Satan and the Demons of Duat!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "nephil_improvement" <lucid_dreamer_@ wrote:

Just a fleeting thought on the nature of appropriate entitlement, answerable only by those lucky enough to speak with or for Enki and his influential cohorts:

Would these mighty entities whom mortals have long-since branded Demons take kindly to the notion of being instead called Angels, or some other divine rank of providence more suited to their nurturing purpose? Whilst of course keeping their ancient names, I ask only about fair and proper titles.

Furthermore, would Michael and his rabble of winged curs - assuming they exist in a form other than mere collective delusion - not better be damned with names of lesser station?

I suppose my real inquiry is one of comparative semantics. Role reversal seems to be prominent in the literature I've taken in so far, and it lead me to this thought experiment. I mean no offence in the inquiry, to those capable of taking it on the behalf of their Guardians, nor to their Guardians themselves.



~Nephil_Improv