Relationships #77753 Love spell/working for naturally polyamorous people?

[AskSatanOperator]

Can a person who is naturally polyamorous do a love spell or working the same way as a monogamous person? Would I adjust the affirmation to say partners instead of partner? Or do I do a love working, then a separate love working for the 2nd partner?

 

[Kyntara]

If you do the spell for specific people, you should do the spell for each one separately.

By the way, if you are doing the spell for specific people, make sure they REALLY want to enter into a polygamous relationship.

 

[Edward Lonsa]

Can a person who is naturally polyamorous do a love spell or working the same way as a monogamous person? Would I adjust the affirmation to say partners instead of partner? Or do I do a love working, then a separate love working for the 2nd partner?

Greetings!

You can do whatever except destroying innocent lives which love magic usually do when done on the existing person against their will forcing them into what they did not choose.

Otherwise welcome here:

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Hi. I have major karma when it comes to relationships. Never made any friends. Never had romance. Nobody wants me, not even family. I am always the odd one out, alienated anywhere I go. People don't like me. I asked my GD if I should give up on the idea of having social and romantic...

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Relationships - #935 So Should I just avoid this Woman?

I was looking at the Birth chart of a woman I was interested in and I noticed a lot of crazy things going on in her chart. She has literally PERFECT love and sex synastry with me but there is one MAJOR flaw in this chart. Although she has perfect love and sex synastry (My mars is in exact...

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Karmically clear love magic is usually done on oneself, not on others, because it is not others' problem but yours that you need love even their one. It is not up to them but up to you to bother to deserve things you want or to evolve into deserving them. If it is you who needs a thing then it is your task to earn it, not other people's one - to plate it to you. Forcing them is not too far from rape logic: "if you happen to not going to plate it to me then ToZ gave me power to take it by force" - no, ToZ gave you instruments to become better person and THUS attract better life. If you use them wrongly you not only do not evolve as you should have done due your karmic situation reflected by unanswered love, but as a result end up with more dross in the soul than you have already been with, only to be in a situation to pay for it all.

 

[Stormblood]

No such thing as 'naturally polyamorous'. It's brainwashing.

 

[Karnonnos [TG]]

Can a person who is naturally polyamorous do a love spell or working the same way as a monogamous person? Would I adjust the affirmation to say partners instead of partner? Or do I do a love working, then a separate love working for the 2nd partner?

Your sex life is your own. We were given these spells by Lady Maxine to use freely.

With any love spell, ensure you love this person or... persons. The problem with this approach of multiple people is that you are more likely to do this superficially and ultimately, not even want them yourself. That is the bad way to do this: do not use people like toys. Use foresight. The other danger is that the more people, the more dangerous this is.

You need to use discernment here. You should also really not attempt to change someone's vocation, nor pull people who want monogamy into this.

 

[Edward Lonsa]

It is my opinion what I say below.

Yes, all ToZ is given to us to be used for free and to face consequence for how we did it. I would not be extremely happy to find out one day after I came to Zevism that some of them were trying to force me into the unwanted not even bothering to ask whether I even wanted a relationship of any kind in the first place and of what exactly kind if I did. Treating me like some inhuman deciding for me my fate. What kind of "love" is this? Forcing people into what they would have never chosen by their own free will and what only may be given by the enforcement magic.

Ask yourself would YOU enjoy to learn one day after you came to Zevism that you had been violated before by other so called "Zevists", abusing their Zevist privilege and once upon a time just learn that all "love" you had in life was... forced down your throat by those you did not even love, and that you were never ever given a choice in the first place. That you were basically forced married. How would it all sound to you? Would you be able to force yourself to even make friends with such people after that, let alone love? In what way would it end for you and them?

Is this how Zevist relationship should be build - that which Zevist is going to be happy in?

From whatever account I had with the Gods I can testify that any higher Being that wishes to build a relationship in the lower worlds does not need such ugly violent means in the first place. They approach their inferior in honest and honorable manner and are open about their plans. They respect our choices. Instead of taking things using their Godly privilege they honestly earn them with us.

Why instead of endlessly abuse others' free will dictating them what they would have never chosen, not to just learn to be better person to be more attractive to associate with and just independently attract to yourself the exact ideal situation you really want whatever it were?

 

[Alexandros Iowno [TG]]

Greetings!

You can do whatever except destroying innocent lives which love magic usually do when done on the existing person against their will forcing them into what they did not choose.

Otherwise welcome here:

Relationships - #77474 Meant to be alone

Hi. I have major karma when it comes to relationships. Never made any friends. Never had romance. Nobody wants me, not even family. I am always the odd one out, alienated anywhere I go. People don't like me. I asked my GD if I should give up on the idea of having social and romantic...

ancient-forums.com

Relationships - #935 So Should I just avoid this Woman?

I was looking at the Birth chart of a woman I was interested in and I noticed a lot of crazy things going on in her chart. She has literally PERFECT love and sex synastry with me but there is one MAJOR flaw in this chart. Although she has perfect love and sex synastry (My mars is in exact...

ancient-forums.com

Karmically clear love magic is usually done on oneself, not on others, because it is not others' problem but yours that you need love even their one. It is not up to them but up to you to bother to deserve things you want or to evolve into deserving them. If it is you who needs a thing then it is your task to earn it, not other people's one - to plate it to you. Forcing them is not too far from rape logic: "if you happen to not going to plate it to me then ToZ gave me power to take it by force" - no, ToZ gave you instruments to become better person and THUS attract better life. If you use them wrongly you not only do not evolve as you should have done due your karmic situation reflected by unanswered love, but as a result end up with more dross in the soul than you have already been with, only to be in a situation to pay for it all.

Doing love spells is not raping anybody, these are assumption leaps.

It is my opinion what I say below.

Yes, all ToZ is given to us to be used for free and to face consequence for how we did it. I would not be extremely happy to find out one day after I came to Zevism that some of them were trying to force me into the unwanted not even bothering to ask whether I even wanted a relationship of any kind in the first place and of what exactly kind if I did. Treating me like some inhuman deciding for me my fate. What kind of "love" is this? Forcing people into what they would have never chosen by their own free will and what only may be given by the enforcement magic.

Ask yourself would YOU enjoy to learn one day after you came to Zevism that you had been violated before by other so called "Zevists", abusing their Zevist privilege and once upon a time just learn that all "love" you had in life was... forced down your throat by those you did not even love, and that you were never ever given a choice in the first place. That you were basically forced married. How would it all sound to you? Would you be able to force yourself to even make friends with such people after that, let alone love? In what way would it end for you and them?

Is this how Zevist relationship should be build - that which Zevist is going to be happy in?

From whatever account I had with the Gods I can testify that any higher Being that wishes to build a relationship in the lower worlds does not need such ugly violent means in the first place. They approach their inferior in honest and honorable manner and are open about their plans. They respect our choices. Instead of taking things using their Godly privilege they honestly earn them with us.

Why instead of endlessly abuse others' free will dictating them what they would have never chosen, not to just learn to be better person to be more attractive to associate with and just independently attract to yourself the exact ideal situation you really want whatever it were?

There have been a few Zevist females doing love magic on me, some using Astarte rituals. I do not mind that and it is not wrong. One should attempt such as by Gods, that is great, and if you pull it off means you deserve it.

Love spells are not ugly violent means, but the opposite, they are creative magnetic things, seductive , stimulating, eliberating, things that can bring babies in this world. All Zevist, especially white males and white women, should use love spells for maximum success on all the people they seek family with and judge by their own mind, experience and quality, and bring babies in this world.

All who read this, trust in me, and put it on my tab of karma and if you do so name your kids after me, it IS allowed and NECCESSARY for each of you to use these means to succeed in life and building of family.

Desiring someone and deciding it is YOURS, your female, your girl, your man, your boyfriend, is absolutely natural, sane and following the Gods design of nature. Sexuality and love in mass populace is a love spell in itself, decided by planets and nature on each, having access to this power is not forbidden, wrong, sinful.

Do not be also guilt tripped as a man to be masculine, and dominate, have ownership and penetrative will on females, it is actually the basis of being a man and you are not wrong for it.

 

[AskSatanOperator]

I appreciate the responses @Edward Lonsa @Kyntara

however, I was trying to ask how a love working would work for a poly person. I'm not trying to attract anyone in particular, I was just going to do a general love working. I was mostly asking how I should word the affirmation I use, and whether I should try to attract 2 suitable partners in one working or if I should do a separate working for each. Sorry I should have worded my question better.

 

[Edward Lonsa]

I appreciate the responses @Edward Lonsa @Kyntara

however, I was trying to ask how a love working would work for a poly person. I'm not trying to attract anyone in particular, I was just going to do a general love working. I was mostly asking how I should word the affirmation I use, and whether I should try to attract 2 suitable partners in one working or if I should do a separate working for each. Sorry I should have worded my question better.

Greetings! Sorry for the late reply, Brother.

Magic has no "limitations" in technical sense, so yes, as far as you do not do to others what you do not want be done on yourself, - then those exclusively technical details are quiet solvable, I believe. For example you might affirm that you attract the optimal amount lovers into your life, all of them seeking polyamory and their desires being completely aligned with your ones, etc. This might be in one affirmation. For me it would have been important to affirm that it is you who make them happy first and foremost. For example when you ask for a Lover (Demon or Human) of Gods my first condition would have been that they were happy and that all other conditions served this purpose first and foremost. Because I think we come into this or any world to improve it not to use it for our own ends and there is no more happiness than to see that the innocent is happy because of you.

Magic is very neutral thing. There is no good or evil magic. There is no sinful or promiscuous magic either. People are so instead. Magic might be a source of most gracious altruism and of most selfless sacrifice while we all know the examples of how it was for millenniums used for the worst egocentrism and evil. I believe magic as well a science can everything because it IS science. But as well as with science, whatever you do with it it will do to you.

 

[AristocraticDragon666]

Doing love spells is not raping anybody, these are assumption leaps.


There have been a few Zevist females doing love magic on me, some using Astarte rituals. I do not mind that and it is not wrong. One should attempt such as by Gods, that is great, and if you pull it off means you deserve it.

Love spells are not ugly violent means, but the opposite, they are creative magnetic things, seductive , stimulating, eliberating, things that can bring babies in this world. All Zevist, especially white males and white women, should use love spells for maximum success on all the people they seek family with and judge by their own mind, experience and quality, and bring babies in this world.

All who read this, trust in me, and put it on my tab of karma and if you do so name your kids after me, it IS allowed and NECCESSARY for each of you to use these means to succeed in life and building of family.

Desiring someone and deciding it is YOURS, your female, your girl, your man, your boyfriend, is absolutely natural, sane and following the Gods design of nature. Sexuality and love in mass populace is a love spell in itself, decided by planets and nature on each, having access to this power is not forbidden, wrong, sinful.

Do not be also guilt tripped as a man to be masculine, and dominate, have ownership and penetrative will on females, it is actually the basis of being a man and you are not wrong for it.

This is not my question, but it is the best answer that gives the most complete and correct understanding of love spells from the point of view of the Ethics of our Gods

Thank you very much Alexandros Iowno [TG] for the detailed explanations that finally clarify this controversial topic, I have saved your answer in my bookmarks

In my opinion, every Zevist should master love and sexual magic perfectly, since love and sexual life are one of the most important aspects in building a family, having children in the family and personal happiness of a person.

In my opinion, having a serious sexual and loving relationship with the people you desire is more important than money.

I came to the conclusion that sex without commitment ultimately will not make a person happy in the long run (only in the short term) and carries the risks of sexually transmitted diseases, whereas family and serious love / sexual relations with a loved one solves many aspects and covers almost all basic needs.

The aspect of a love relationship can also solve money issues, for example, if you fall in love with a rich and very beautiful girl, as in my case

Often, rich and very beautiful girls are inaccessible to most men because of the high competition among elite males that such girls desire. As a rule, girls from a rich family are highly educated and graduate from prestigious universities.

In my opinion, if you are an ordinary guy (or not quite ordinary), falling in love with such a girl and starting a family with her will be better than if you choose an ordinary girl that anyone can take.

There are many ordinary girls who successfully marry handsome, caring, smart and rich men.

I think it would be good if there were more ordinary guys and men who would create happy families with truly elite women in all aspects, from a male point of view

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