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Hello everyone! Few weeks ago, the thought of making this popped randomly into my mind and I can't let it go so I needed to write this down.
As suggested, this is the safest option to post this as it contains information on my birth chart and I don't want to lose an opportunity to help the community. So I proceeded as suggested and used this tool...
Everything I wrote is based on my direct experience with this placement, combined with the info that the Temple already gave me and experience of other people I've read online during these years.
Everyone is free and encouraged to share their thoughts or consideration on this matter!
I sincerely hope this will bring some help to all of you.
I've always thought that a 12th House Venus was one of the worst placement one can have but with experience and time, I started to notice good aspects that this placement can give if channeled correctly.
1) Unresolved relationships from past lives
Given the nature of the 12th House, I've noticed that this placement can often indicate that someone has left lovers in the past; a promise might have been made but it wasn't fulfilled before passing away. One might feel like something is missing in this lifetime, like they're searching for something but can't find it.
This could also indicate that one has committed mistakes themselves in love and romantic relationships: the person could have been unfaithful, superficial in their relationship leaving broken hearts everywhere along the way, hurting people deeply.
Someone with this placement can have, indeed, unluckiness in love but I think it could be caused by these past mistakes, unfulfilled promises, abandonment and similar traumas, the partner cannot be found because they were left in the past and they couldn't meet you again in this current lifetime. These, obviously, can be healed.
This placement could signify that the partner might be a very spiritual person as well, a potential Zevist too. The partner could be met in secrecy and this could happen on dating apps no one knows you have, it could be forbidden love; it could happen on a retreat, somewhere where you are alone or when you are at your lowest.
I feel like someone doesn't necessarily need to meet their partner that way or have a secret relationship, but it can mean that they will meet them after they've done their spiritual healing, detaching from those past lovers and mistakes as they can heavily influence the present.
The person with this placement could tend to idealize their partner and this can lead to dangerous situations. I do understand how this placement makes you desire a perfect partner, almost a soulbond type of relationship and while this is understandable it's important to regain our grip with reality: there's a big difference between an ideal and a compatible, realistic partner. Having an ideal partner is ok but we should stay grounded: we are the first to not be perfect and flawless so why should we expect others to be perfect and flawless? Let go of any unnecessary standard and get out there, go meet people, talk, make new friends, stay in the flow. It's not easy but it's definitely attainable. The more experience you get, the more you grow and heal as a person. The more you isolate, the more the probability of not meeting someone rises.
I think someone can start to find a fulfilling relationship also after giving up the need to be the saviour of their partner: we are their lover, not their therapist. As we work hard to heal ourselves, they should do the same and it's not your responsibility to do that. You can surely be their number 1 supporter but you're not, and should never be, the saviour of someone.
This placement can make you feel like you have so much love to give that it hurts to always keep it inside or to always see it being rejected. I feel like this placement needs to learn that love has to come from within, before coming from other people. If we don't learn to love ourselves first, we will never be able to actually value ourselves and to have a healthy, fulfilling relationship. I know this might sound repetitive but I understood it's true...
When I started to take care of myself, putting me first, healing my wounds, my love life started to significantly improve along the way.
Just because we have extra work to do, doesn't mean we will never get what we desire !
I also think it's important to mention that this placement can make you feel like a victim of life, that the world is working against you but as I said previously, sometimes we are the villain in other people's stories, we are the one leaving or abandoning someone and it's important to accept that, I think, because when we admit our mistakes we can start to actually work on ourselves. Actions have consequences and at some point you will have to face them, regardless of how hard you try to ignore them. As said, we aren't perfect.
2) artistic talent
As mentioned on the site, this placement often gives the person an extraordinary talent for arts. This can be any type of art. I made a post a few days ago where I ask how to use my creativity correctly: I feel this placement does in fact give you much creativity but being in the House of isolation (to mention one trait) it tends to stay inside of our mind. It can also give you a deep dissatisfaction with your art: you might feel worthless and untalented but it's the opposite as it's probably just a mental limitation, probably self imposed too.
I feel like these people have a rich inner world: they tend to daydream, they can be idealists (and as I mentioned this can go also for partners) and creativity runs free in their mind. These people see the beauty in everything, especially if Venus is the chart ruler.
They can have very vivid and detailed dreams that they often remember in the morning. I often experience that inspiration comes from those dreams: I have many things I plan to make that are based on things I dreamed about and this can surely work with anyone with this placement, I think.
About past lives, this placement can indicate that you were an artist in one of those. You could have been someone famous or an artist that wasn't understood or who never got recognition for their works. This specific second case, might reinforce the fact that you dislike your own art and see it as worthless or ugly.
Many celebrities today have their Venus in the 12th House but they still became famous artists
Shakespeare, even though the accuracy is being questioned, very much probably had his Venus in his 12th House and he still managed to became a famous artist. Jimi Hendrix had the same placement, with only the sign being different (Sagittarius); Bach, another one where the accuracy is being questioned, probably had his Venus in Pisces in the 12th House and look how famous his music became! This can be connected very well to what I've noticed, especially with the fact that he had his Venus in Pisces, a Neptune ruled sign. Valentino is a famous fashion designer and guess what? 12th House Venus! Chuck Berry, Jean-Michel Jarre, Andrea Bocelli, Claude Debussy, Arthur Conan Doyle and many others had/have the same placement and they still succeded in their art. Max Verstappen, has a Scorpio Venus in 12th and he still became a successful F1 driver (I know he's not an artist but I like F1 very much and I wanted to share this fun fact! Sorry for the offtopic). I could go on forever listing how many celebrities and artists became successful despite having an unlucky placement. If art is your path, I think you should never be afraid of pursuing it.
3) Dreams
Dreams can also be a great tool in communication with the Gods: I met my GD in a dream when I first dedicated and I kept getting hints about my path in dreams.
I started to talk to a few of the Gods because I've seen them or things that reminded me of them in my dreams.
I feel like this placement shouldn't be afraid to explore their subconscious. Start a dream journal and write as much as you can about your dreams. These could also give you hints about your past lives.
This part is shorter than the last one because I'm struggling to put this into words so I tried to be as concise as I could.
As suggested, this is the safest option to post this as it contains information on my birth chart and I don't want to lose an opportunity to help the community. So I proceeded as suggested and used this tool...
Everything I wrote is based on my direct experience with this placement, combined with the info that the Temple already gave me and experience of other people I've read online during these years.
Everyone is free and encouraged to share their thoughts or consideration on this matter!
I sincerely hope this will bring some help to all of you.
I've always thought that a 12th House Venus was one of the worst placement one can have but with experience and time, I started to notice good aspects that this placement can give if channeled correctly.
1) Unresolved relationships from past lives
Given the nature of the 12th House, I've noticed that this placement can often indicate that someone has left lovers in the past; a promise might have been made but it wasn't fulfilled before passing away. One might feel like something is missing in this lifetime, like they're searching for something but can't find it.
This could also indicate that one has committed mistakes themselves in love and romantic relationships: the person could have been unfaithful, superficial in their relationship leaving broken hearts everywhere along the way, hurting people deeply.
Someone with this placement can have, indeed, unluckiness in love but I think it could be caused by these past mistakes, unfulfilled promises, abandonment and similar traumas, the partner cannot be found because they were left in the past and they couldn't meet you again in this current lifetime. These, obviously, can be healed.
This placement could signify that the partner might be a very spiritual person as well, a potential Zevist too. The partner could be met in secrecy and this could happen on dating apps no one knows you have, it could be forbidden love; it could happen on a retreat, somewhere where you are alone or when you are at your lowest.
I feel like someone doesn't necessarily need to meet their partner that way or have a secret relationship, but it can mean that they will meet them after they've done their spiritual healing, detaching from those past lovers and mistakes as they can heavily influence the present.
The person with this placement could tend to idealize their partner and this can lead to dangerous situations. I do understand how this placement makes you desire a perfect partner, almost a soulbond type of relationship and while this is understandable it's important to regain our grip with reality: there's a big difference between an ideal and a compatible, realistic partner. Having an ideal partner is ok but we should stay grounded: we are the first to not be perfect and flawless so why should we expect others to be perfect and flawless? Let go of any unnecessary standard and get out there, go meet people, talk, make new friends, stay in the flow. It's not easy but it's definitely attainable. The more experience you get, the more you grow and heal as a person. The more you isolate, the more the probability of not meeting someone rises.
I think someone can start to find a fulfilling relationship also after giving up the need to be the saviour of their partner: we are their lover, not their therapist. As we work hard to heal ourselves, they should do the same and it's not your responsibility to do that. You can surely be their number 1 supporter but you're not, and should never be, the saviour of someone.
This placement can make you feel like you have so much love to give that it hurts to always keep it inside or to always see it being rejected. I feel like this placement needs to learn that love has to come from within, before coming from other people. If we don't learn to love ourselves first, we will never be able to actually value ourselves and to have a healthy, fulfilling relationship. I know this might sound repetitive but I understood it's true...
When I started to take care of myself, putting me first, healing my wounds, my love life started to significantly improve along the way.
Just because we have extra work to do, doesn't mean we will never get what we desire !
I also think it's important to mention that this placement can make you feel like a victim of life, that the world is working against you but as I said previously, sometimes we are the villain in other people's stories, we are the one leaving or abandoning someone and it's important to accept that, I think, because when we admit our mistakes we can start to actually work on ourselves. Actions have consequences and at some point you will have to face them, regardless of how hard you try to ignore them. As said, we aren't perfect.
2) artistic talent
As mentioned on the site, this placement often gives the person an extraordinary talent for arts. This can be any type of art. I made a post a few days ago where I ask how to use my creativity correctly: I feel this placement does in fact give you much creativity but being in the House of isolation (to mention one trait) it tends to stay inside of our mind. It can also give you a deep dissatisfaction with your art: you might feel worthless and untalented but it's the opposite as it's probably just a mental limitation, probably self imposed too.
I feel like these people have a rich inner world: they tend to daydream, they can be idealists (and as I mentioned this can go also for partners) and creativity runs free in their mind. These people see the beauty in everything, especially if Venus is the chart ruler.
They can have very vivid and detailed dreams that they often remember in the morning. I often experience that inspiration comes from those dreams: I have many things I plan to make that are based on things I dreamed about and this can surely work with anyone with this placement, I think.
About past lives, this placement can indicate that you were an artist in one of those. You could have been someone famous or an artist that wasn't understood or who never got recognition for their works. This specific second case, might reinforce the fact that you dislike your own art and see it as worthless or ugly.
Many celebrities today have their Venus in the 12th House but they still became famous artists
Shakespeare, even though the accuracy is being questioned, very much probably had his Venus in his 12th House and he still managed to became a famous artist. Jimi Hendrix had the same placement, with only the sign being different (Sagittarius); Bach, another one where the accuracy is being questioned, probably had his Venus in Pisces in the 12th House and look how famous his music became! This can be connected very well to what I've noticed, especially with the fact that he had his Venus in Pisces, a Neptune ruled sign. Valentino is a famous fashion designer and guess what? 12th House Venus! Chuck Berry, Jean-Michel Jarre, Andrea Bocelli, Claude Debussy, Arthur Conan Doyle and many others had/have the same placement and they still succeded in their art. Max Verstappen, has a Scorpio Venus in 12th and he still became a successful F1 driver (I know he's not an artist but I like F1 very much and I wanted to share this fun fact! Sorry for the offtopic). I could go on forever listing how many celebrities and artists became successful despite having an unlucky placement. If art is your path, I think you should never be afraid of pursuing it.
3) Dreams
Dreams can also be a great tool in communication with the Gods: I met my GD in a dream when I first dedicated and I kept getting hints about my path in dreams.
I started to talk to a few of the Gods because I've seen them or things that reminded me of them in my dreams.
I feel like this placement shouldn't be afraid to explore their subconscious. Start a dream journal and write as much as you can about your dreams. These could also give you hints about your past lives.
This part is shorter than the last one because I'm struggling to put this into words so I tried to be as concise as I could.
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