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if someone learned about satanism and went through the motions, the dedication, the training. Then suddenly decided to leave? How does that make sense? I mean, they meet their guardian demon, other demons, actually FEEL their own energy and just decide its false? because i've heard people leaving satanism, i've seen posts with my own eyes about people losing their confidence and talk about leaving, like what the fuck do you do after you've seen so much? no, what CAN you do after this? go back to christianity? HA, maybe start your own sect of buddhism or be a hermit or some shit, but a guy has got to be reeeeally low to go back to christianity.the only reason i can think of someone leaving satanism is like some psychic attacks from the enemy of some sort, because i would assume on their own, literally no one would just have the thought on their own to leave. Even me, and im pretty spiritually weak....but then that also means im more vulnerable to psychic attacks. Sudden realization: i should get my shit together haha....but then again, im more likely to get a psychic attack only if im spiritually stronger because im more likely to be sensed. So am i winning or losing? Dont answer that, i fully intend to get stronger anyway. I didnt dedicate just to dip my toes in magic and have the occasional wank.
 
When I was newer, I got a lot of psychic harassment from the enemy. Sometimes people pray for you (alone or in groups) if you had once gone to church and don't go anymore. They notice your absence and want you back. Sometimes it's peer pressure from family, xian friends, people you used to hang out with who are xian. These are just a few reasons why people leave; because they get so much harassment and don't get any peace from xians. The pressure is so high; and people, if not strong-willed, may bend from that pressure.
Those are my thoughts, although others may have different things to say about this thread's queries.

I almost left Satanism a few times for the first few years I was dedicated. I walked in circles and off the narrow path.
In my heart I never left Satan though. I always loved and continue to love Him. Therein lies the difference: the Gods knew this and guided me back to Spiritual Satanism, to the JoS Groups and back to meditation and building a strong relationship with my Guardians and with Satan.

People who dedicate to Satan; meditate; see, hear and experience things with the Powers of Hell, and then leave (hopefully briefly) may find their way back to Him and to Satanism if their heart has not wavered in trust and love for Him. The Gods guide us back.

The Gods never left me when I was wandering, but They left me alone to learn for myself. I saw that all these Pagan or other occult paths were corrupted severely, taught enemy teachings (New Age stuff) or was watered down.
A lot of them dealt with enemy spirits that the practitioners thought were Gods or human-friendly spirits. From their blogs I could tell that they were of the enemy (the spirits that they interacted with), from the experiences they wrote about.

In my personal opinion, what you put in is what you get out of Spiritual Satanism.

If you don't meditate, don't study, don't participate in spiritual warfare, and don't build strong relationships with Satan and our Guardians, then it's possible you"ll get bored and listless and float off into the ocean of RHP (Right Hand Path) or other corrupted LHP (Left Hand Path) bullshit that is out there. And there's a lot of it out there.

Some people leave because they are curious about what's out there. I did this before, although I still read the posts in the groups and the sermons from the JoS clergy. I picked up knowledge and applied it, and became more (mentally) well-rounded overall, lol.

I don't recommend leaving Spiritual Satanism to learn about other religions or Pagan paths though. I do regret the amount of time I spent outside of SS a few years ago. I spent more time dabbling and learning about other Pagan and occult paths. Now I am more serious about Spiritual Satanism. And I hope to catch up where I missed out, concerning meditation and knowledge. Although that cannot be rushed.







On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 9:03 PM, "silas.westen@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  if someone learned about satanism and went through the motions, the dedication, the training. Then suddenly decided to leave? How does that make sense? I mean, they meet their guardian demon, other demons, actually FEEL their own energy and just decide its false? because i've heard people leaving satanism, i've seen posts with my own eyes about people losing their confidence and talk about leaving, like what the fuck do you do after you've seen so much? no, what CAN you do after this? go back to christianity? HA, maybe start your own sect of buddhism or be a hermit or some shit, but a guy has got to be reeeeally low to go back to christianity.the only reason i can think of someone leaving satanism is like some psychic attacks from the enemy of some sort, because i would assume on their own, literally no one would just have the thought on their own to leave. Even me, and im pretty spiritually weak....but then that also means im more vulnerable to psychic attacks. Sudden realization: i should get my shit together haha....but then again, im more likely to get a psychic attack only if im spiritually stronger because im more likely to be sensed. So am i winning or losing? Dont answer that, i fully intend to get stronger anyway. I didnt dedicate just to dip my toes in magic and have the occasional wank.

 
<td val[/IMG]It has to do with enemy attacks yes, but it also has to do with lack of knowledge. I would say the number one reason people leave the JoS is because they don't take the time to study. But you also have to remember that anyone who is 'truly' a Satanist will come back. " You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave!" -Old Satanic song lyric. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
At Jul 8, 2015, 1:38:26 PM, silas.westen@... [JoyofSatan666] wrote: if someone learned about satanism and went through the motions, the dedication, the training. Then suddenly decided to leave? How does that make sense? I mean, they meet their guardian demon, other demons, actually FEEL their own energy and just decide its false? because i've heard people leaving satanism, i've seen posts with my own eyes about people losing their confidence and talk about leaving, like what the fuck do you do after you've seen so much? no, what CAN you do after this? go back to christianity? HA, maybe start your own sect of buddhism or be a hermit or some shit, but a guy has got to be reeeeally low to go back to christianity.the only reason i can think of someone leaving satanism is like some psychic attacks from the enemy of some sort, because i would assume on their own, literally no one would just have the thought on their own to leave. Even me, and im pretty spiritually weak....but then that also means im more vulnerable to psychic attacks. Sudden realization: i should get my shit together haha....but then again, im more likely to get a psychic attack only if im spiritually stronger because im more likely to be sensed. So am i winning or losing? Dont answer that, i fully intend to get stronger anyway. I didnt dedicate just to dip my toes in magic and have the occasional wank.
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I don't understand all this show me the way to meditate, study, participate am in need and ungry of this. Am new
 
Well said, Magus! ^ There is much pressure out there, from enemy
angels, and from xians themselves. I suppose some people just cannot
handle it. I think that the enemy harasses all true Satanists, because
they'd love nothing more than for us to turn our backs on our beloved
Father Satan! Well, I say, fuck no to that! I adore Lord/Father Satan
with all my heart and my soul, and I would rather die than ever betray
him, and my Guardian Daemons too! Regardless of what foolish xians, or
enemy entities, try to tell me, I will not listen to them! I shall be
for ever loyal to my beloved Father Satan, and to all the true Gods of
Hell. Hail Lord/Father Satan always! Hail Sorath, the One Who Burns!
Hail Andras!

On 7/10/15, magnum.arcanum@... [JoyofSatan666]
<[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:
What Magus Immortalis said.
 
This thread is beautiful.

The enemy will try to draw us back to their feeding program, of course. But, every offer they make is a lie. The "love" they offer is just bait. The security and "peace" they offer is just an abdication of your reservation rights. Their "heaven" offered is nothing more than a distraction so they can steal your world.

After even just as little as I've seen so far (and there's an infinity more to go) I'd rather die than go back. Fortunately, Father Satan wants us to live and fight, instead.

Hail Father Satan, forever!
 
Indeed what Magus said. Although I never left, 
I wish people could have had my experiences and know what I know. I know a lot of you have and even way more than me. My advice:
  Lessons take years to learn. Develop patience and make Goals for yourself. If you're under 25 tell yourself at 25 my brain will be fully developed, make that your goal. Then 30, 35-40 is your prime. 40 where will I be? Next 50? If you are already older, 60 70 80 90 100. Let's say you're 70.
 It takes 20 years to become a God. One of my family members is a mundane and he is 107. You just have to make it to 90. Start doing the santanama chant everyday. You can find it in the newsletter under the Healing name by Don Danko. With meditation and yoga along with the satanama chant you could make it.
Make Goals, we all can do this if we just apply ourselves a lil bit everyday consistently.

 
I do remember times ald / damnplanetsaturn / was an asshole infiltrator, and he was banned - BUT it seems one has to learn his lesson and SEE one has been dealing with (the) WRONG people (this people is the jew).

Needless to say, hopefully you had your ass kicked so hard that you learned your lesson well. To err is Human, to learn a lesson - Divine.

Hail Volac!
88!
HS!
 
@...   I just want to add what happened with Aldric in the past wasn't entirely his fault. He made a smaller group of his own which was supposed to be for specifically helping beginners with meditation programs but he made the mistake of not having moderators while he was offline for a while.

Then literally WITHIN DAYS the group was full of the worst kind of degenerate scum pushing every kind of filth you can imagine. There was people bashing the clergy, promoting rape, race mixing, torture and the like. To his defense he DID ban these people and made it clear what the rules were afterwards. However, the enemy succeeded in driving away most committed Satanists with those tactics and his mini groups are now mostly defunct.

It just goes to show you how many infiltrators there actually are and how the enemy is watching these groups like a hawk.
 
Aldric's group wasn't as moderated as the JoS groups is. That's why it was full of kike infiltrator messages. In JoS groups messages have to get approved by a mod in order to get posted. In non moderated groups they post instantly.
 
Oh yeah. Those chickenshit, wallhumping dick-skinning yids can't stand the thought of someone not being their slave.

And, their weak, cowardly efforts are going to backfire on those retards, too.

I can't wait.

Fucking commies deserve everything they're gonna get, too.
 
Wasn't there - didn't know. Now I do though :p

Aaaaaanyway, tis good DPS returned. There is power in single individuals, but in numbers as well.

Hail Volac!
88!
HS!
 
United we stand, divided we fall. Unless we stand true to one another,
we will not win! But we will win, ultimately, because Father Satan is
the truth, and he fights for us. And we fight by his side. And we
shall reclaim this planet, which is ours, back from the lying
usurpers. Eradicate the infestation! Kill the hive! Hail Lord/Father
Satan for ever! Hail Sorath, the One Who Burns! Hail Andras!

On 7/14/15, mkscotshaman@... [JoyofSatan666]
<[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:
@j.l3mm0n Thanks for clearing that up.
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
 

  Thank you all for being so understanding, while true hearted I suffered from something so profound. Being a Fucking Retard. O rest assured everyday was a kick in the ass from my own stupidity. Than finally by the Grace of Satan my brain added a couple Brain cells. Amazingly, I took the IQ test and it increased from a decent level of 78 all the way to 96! 
  I am living proof, that Meditation really can improve Brain Function, even of those with a, well modest Disposition to Reqular cerebrum activity. 
  So, here I am, allowed to return on the following Condition ofcourse, that my past Non-tactful ways of engagement do not rebound and show theirselves back for all of my Wonderful Brothers and Sisters in Satan too have the displeasure of witnessing. 
   My only Dilema being that Prayer is more or less Telpathy in Satanism, yet I seem to find myself in a more familiar type of praying to Satan that I don't fuck it up..
    With love to you all, your Brother in Satan Forever.

 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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