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I'm sure most of you are aware that there's spiritual satanists that have all kinds of different beliefs. So why do they? We see father satan as the sumerian god enki right? And I've heard of some that believe he's just a force throught the universe. Others actually see him as a fallen angel, the stupidest one if you ask me since xtianity is fake. So why do satanists disagree on who he is? They all claim to work directly with him so why all these different beliefs? Shouldn't we all believe the same since he speaks to HPs and let's them know who he is? Shouldn't he tell other satanists he's enki? They also discribe the demons differently. I read about this satanist woman that claims astaroth appears as a man or woman, but why? Is she lying or what? Can someone explain this to me thanks.
Hail satan!!!
 
Quite simply, those who see Father Satan as a fallen angel are luciferians, they are wrong. Those who see him as a force are wrong, those who see him as just an aspect of the mind are levayans they are wrong. Those who say Father Satan is not Enki are infiltrators trying to turn us away from the truth.

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:29 PM, derikgsthreesixs23 <derikgsthreesixs23@... wrote:
  I'm sure most of you are aware that there's spiritual satanists that have all kinds of different beliefs. So why do they? We see father satan as the sumerian god enki right? And I've heard of some that believe he's just a force throught the universe. Others actually see him as a fallen angel, the stupidest one if you ask me since xtianity is fake. So why do satanists disagree on who he is? They all claim to work directly with him so why all these different beliefs? Shouldn't we all believe the same since he speaks to HPs and let's them know who he is? Shouldn't he tell other satanists he's enki? They also discribe the demons differently. I read about this satanist woman that claims astaroth appears as a man or woman, but why? Is she lying or what? Can someone explain this to me thanks.
Hail satan!!!


--
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi That Man Behind The Mist, -Dante
 
Claiming that you're directly working with a certain deity doesn't mean that you're actually doing that.

Take a look at xians: they always say the "lord" spoke to them, and told them to do this and that... But did this really happen? No. They do what other stupid xians do, and they say what they say, and then they claim that all of it was told them by their fucking god. But actually there is no such connection between them and their god, they just think there is...

Same with fashion-Satanists and LaVeyans.

HAIL ENKI!
HAIL THE MIGHTY GODS OF DUAT!
HAIL HAGENTI!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Dante Satanas <dante.satanas@... wrote:

Quite simply, those who see Father Satan as a fallen angel are luciferians,
they are wrong. Those who see him as a force are wrong, those who see him as
just an aspect of the mind are levayans they are wrong. Those who say Father
Satan is not Enki are infiltrators trying to turn us away from the truth.

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:29 PM, derikgsthreesixs23 <
derikgsthreesixs23@... wrote:



I'm sure most of you are aware that there's spiritual satanists that have
all kinds of different beliefs. So why do they? We see father satan as the
sumerian god enki right? And I've heard of some that believe he's just a
force throught the universe. Others actually see him as a fallen angel, the
stupidest one if you ask me since xtianity is fake. So why do satanists
disagree on who he is? They all claim to work directly with him so why all
these different beliefs? Shouldn't we all believe the same since he speaks
to HPs and let's them know who he is? Shouldn't he tell other satanists he's
enki? They also discribe the demons differently. I read about this satanist
woman that claims astaroth appears as a man or woman, but why? Is she lying
or what? Can someone explain this to me thanks.
Hail satan!!!






--
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi
That Man Behind The Mist,
-Dante
 
Im using my crappy old phone so apology in advance if any typo etc.1st thing,are they really satanist that speak to satan?Astral deception happens.An entity say he jewsus,allah etc,n yet it lying.Do these 'satanist' have any REAL SPIRITUAL ADVANCEMENT!Do thy restore lost knowledge?Do they FIGHT FOR SATAN!Or just discredit him more,any of them have risen their serpent?2nd,isnt us divided what they wanted,infiltration is their game.Look at the freemasons guys.Remember the golden question,what this would benefit ME SPIRITUALLY?

On Sun Jun 12th, 2011 6:29 PM PDT derikgsthreesixs23 wrote:

I'm sure most of you are aware that there's spiritual satanists that have all kinds of different beliefs. So why do they? We see father satan as the sumerian god enki right? And I've heard of some that believe he's just a force throught the universe. Others actually see him as a fallen angel, the stupidest one if you ask me since xtianity is fake. So why do satanists disagree on who he is? They all claim to work directly with him so why all these different beliefs? Shouldn't we all believe the same since he speaks to HPs and let's them know who he is? Shouldn't he tell other satanists he's enki? They also discribe the demons differently. I read about this satanist woman that claims astaroth appears as a man or woman, but why? Is she lying or what? Can someone explain this to me thanks.
Hail satan!!!
 
No God will tolerate an impostor & as soon as it's discovered the entity is summarily disposed of. I think the incidents of a hostile entity actually announcing itself using a God's name is decreasing because of that, but it's still something that we need to be mindful of.

And, yes, many of us have spoken with Satan Himself and he has personally helped many of us. Often, though, we are not immediately aware of such help until afterwards; when we look back on the situation/incident, we can see His hand at work, at which time we should give thanks.

When you can be suspicious is when someone says: "Satan told me ..." and then spews forth a string of nonsense. This is invariably a kike or a kike-influenced trouble-maker with an over-inflated idea of his/her importance trying to sow dissension.

As to disagreement: there's nothing wrong with it. One can disagree without being disagreeable. (For some, there seems to be a learning curve to that concept as well. LOL) Healthy debate & discussion is part of the learning process & we are all works in progress, no matter how new or how advanced. Of course, so-called "disagreement" in the form of spouting kike-garbage and deliberately attempting to create internecine warfare within our ranks is not tolerated.

We are encouraged to question & prove things to ourselves; this isn't xianity where the sheep are spoon-fed a slimy gruel of jew-crap & told they must accept it as served, without question.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@... wrote:

Im using my crappy old phone so apology in advance if any typo etc.1st thing,are they really satanist that speak to satan?Astral deception happens.An entity say he jewsus,allah etc,n yet it lying.Do these 'satanist' have any REAL SPIRITUAL ADVANCEMENT!Do thy restore lost knowledge?Do they FIGHT FOR SATAN!Or just discredit him more,any of them have risen their serpent?2nd,isnt us divided what they wanted,infiltration is their game.Look at the freemasons guys.Remember the golden question,what this would benefit ME SPIRITUALLY?

On Sun Jun 12th, 2011 6:29 PM PDT derikgsthreesixs23 wrote:

I'm sure most of you are aware that there's spiritual satanists that have all kinds of different beliefs. So why do they? We see father satan as the sumerian god enki right? And I've heard of some that believe he's just a force throught the universe. Others actually see him as a fallen angel, the stupidest one if you ask me since xtianity is fake. So why do satanists disagree on who he is? They all claim to work directly with him so why all these different beliefs? Shouldn't we all believe the same since he speaks to HPs and let's them know who he is? Shouldn't he tell other satanists he's enki? They also discribe the demons differently. I read about this satanist woman that claims astaroth appears as a man or woman, but why? Is she lying or what? Can someone explain this to me thanks.
Hail satan!!!
 
Fashion-Satanists. Lol Nigel!

Very well said, Jaguar. Hail Father Satan!

On 6/13/11, chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:
No God will tolerate an impostor & as soon as it's discovered the entity is
summarily disposed of. I think the incidents of a hostile entity actually
announcing itself using a God's name is decreasing because of that, but it's
still something that we need to be mindful of.

And, yes, many of us have spoken with Satan Himself and he has personally
helped many of us. Often, though, we are not immediately aware of such help
until afterwards; when we look back on the situation/incident, we can see
His hand at work, at which time we should give thanks.

When you can be suspicious is when someone says: "Satan told me ..." and
then spews forth a string of nonsense. This is invariably a kike or a
kike-influenced trouble-maker with an over-inflated idea of his/her
importance trying to sow dissension.

As to disagreement: there's nothing wrong with it. One can disagree without
being disagreeable. (For some, there seems to be a learning curve to that
concept as well. LOL) Healthy debate & discussion is part of the learning
process & we are all works in progress, no matter how new or how advanced.
Of course, so-called "disagreement" in the form of spouting kike-garbage and
deliberately attempting to create internecine warfare within our ranks is
not tolerated.

We are encouraged to question & prove things to ourselves; this isn't
xianity where the sheep are spoon-fed a slimy gruel of jew-crap & told they
must accept it as served, without question.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@...
wrote:

Im using my crappy old phone so apology in advance if any typo etc.1st
thing,are they really satanist that speak to satan?Astral deception
happens.An entity say he jewsus,allah etc,n yet it lying.Do these
'satanist' have any REAL SPIRITUAL ADVANCEMENT!Do thy restore lost
knowledge?Do they FIGHT FOR SATAN!Or just discredit him more,any of them
have risen their serpent?2nd,isnt us divided what they wanted,infiltration
is their game.Look at the freemasons guys.Remember the golden
question,what this would benefit ME SPIRITUALLY?

On Sun Jun 12th, 2011 6:29 PM PDT derikgsthreesixs23 wrote:

I'm sure most of you are aware that there's spiritual satanists that have
all kinds of different beliefs. So why do they? We see father satan as
the sumerian god enki right? And I've heard of some that believe he's
just a force throught the universe. Others actually see him as a fallen
angel, the stupidest one if you ask me since xtianity is fake. So why do
satanists disagree on who he is? They all claim to work directly with
him so why all these different beliefs? Shouldn't we all believe the
same since he speaks to HPs and let's them know who he is? Shouldn't he
tell other satanists he's enki? They also discribe the demons
differently. I read about this satanist woman that claims astaroth
appears as a man or woman, but why? Is she lying or what? Can someone
explain this to me thanks.
Hail satan!!!
 
"I'm sure most of you are aware that there's spiritual satanists that have
all kinds of different beliefs."
Those who don't believe Satan predates xianity aren't called Spiritual Satanists. They go by names like luciferians, Traditional Satanists, laveyans e.t.c.

"They all claim to work directly with him so why all
these different beliefs?"
No, those who believe Satan is a force don't claim to communicate with him. You can't talk to a force. A very small percentage of them claims to communicate directly with the Gods in real time. It's obvious bcuz almost no one of them encourages meditation and opening your astral senses, that's the only real way to get a relationship with them. Some are just infiltrators and lie and have no experiences like some of them saying they're the "Antichrist". Others just have a "feeling" or a subconscious image. They believe what they think is right, I've heard no one of them who contacted Satan and his beliefs changed from what were before because of learning new things from Satan. You can see this as many of them think is about "chaos" and making Satan's appearance how you want him to be, this is lie because Satan has his own appearance and is external being separate from us. You can't learn new things and how Satan really is when you make him in your image, if you do that you'll only see what you believe Satan to be as your subconscious can influence you. To see the real Satan you have to go to him with no expectations and leaving everything you were taught about him behind.

"Shouldn't we all believe the same since he speaks
to HPs and let's them know who he is?"
He speaks not only to hps, but everyone who's open. Satanism is different than xianity in that you can contact him and ask him who he is, not believe what others say. You should do that instead of asking this question IMO. Also ask Satan.

"They also discribe the demons differently."

99% of them copypaste the same info from the jewish grimoires (like astaroth being male), its a fact. Again I've heard no one of them who contacted without being influenced from the info on the jewish grimoires and seeing their true appearance.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Dante Satanas <dante.satanas@... wrote:

Quite simply, those who see Father Satan as a fallen angel are luciferians,
they are wrong. Those who see him as a force are wrong, those who see him as
just an aspect of the mind are levayans they are wrong. Those who say Father
Satan is not Enki are infiltrators trying to turn us away from the truth.

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:29 PM, derikgsthreesixs23 <
derikgsthreesixs23@... wrote:



I'm sure most of you are aware that there's spiritual satanists that have
all kinds of different beliefs. So why do they? We see father satan as the
sumerian god enki right? And I've heard of some that believe he's just a
force throught the universe. Others actually see him as a fallen angel, the
stupidest one if you ask me since xtianity is fake. So why do satanists
disagree on who he is? They all claim to work directly with him so why all
these different beliefs? Shouldn't we all believe the same since he speaks
to HPs and let's them know who he is? Shouldn't he tell other satanists he's
enki? They also discribe the demons differently. I read about this satanist
woman that claims astaroth appears as a man or woman, but why? Is she lying
or what? Can someone explain this to me thanks.
Hail satan!!!






--
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi
That Man Behind The Mist,
-Dante
 
N astaroth is a man?this speak for itself.Ashtar is a goddess,the name date back to the far east n sumeria,'astar'oth,th is the sylable of the moon,as in ha'th'a yuga n the rune of the moon 'th'agaz/'d'ay.Male deities are usually shown as solar,female lunar.Like diana goddess of the moon.Horus n ra is solar god.Hope thi7 helped clear up ur confusion.The buybull stole EVERYTHING From true paganism=satanism.Like the number 666,the roman numeral add up to 666(look for my previous post on 666),n the ruman numeral PREDATE the buybull!666 is pagan n not a bible of origin.Remember the key word,PREDATE.

On Sun Jun 12th, 2011 6:29 PM PDT derikgsthreesixs23 wrote:

I'm sure most of you are aware that there's spiritual satanists that have all kinds of different beliefs. So why do they? We see father satan as the sumerian god enki right? And I've heard of some that believe he's just a force throught the universe. Others actually see him as a fallen angel, the stupidest one if you ask me since xtianity is fake. So why do satanists disagree on who he is? They all claim to work directly with him so why all these different beliefs? Shouldn't we all believe the same since he speaks to HPs and let's them know who he is? Shouldn't he tell other satanists he's enki? They also discribe the demons differently. I read about this satanist woman that claims astaroth appears as a man or woman, but why? Is she lying or what? Can someone explain this to me thanks.
Hail satan!!!
 
I know (fortunately I don't know them personally) some idiotic guys who think they are really badass Satanists, they sacrifice doves, then they use it's blood for the rituals, they even smear the blood on their faces. They are not kids (I guess they're 30-40), but they do this since their teens.

Some other fellow Spiritual Satanists including me told them it's wrong, but they wouldn't listen. I'm not even bothering myself with their shit anymore. If they want to do this, let them do this. They'll get their punishment from Satan.

One of them even claimed that Lucifer appeared to him 4 times. I guess he saw an angel... It' so sad that the xian trap caught them.

Anyway has anyone got an idea why can't I get an answer from any of the HPs or HPSs? (I asked them if they'd grant me permission to create a version of the JoS and Exposing Xianity site in another language). I wrote a message 2 times last week but still no answer. I know they are busy, but one of our Brothers just got an OK for a similar question after I posted the first.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "zarothar11" <zarothar11@... wrote:

"I'm sure most of you are aware that there's spiritual satanists that have
all kinds of different beliefs."

Those who don't believe Satan predates xianity aren't called Spiritual Satanists. They go by names like luciferians, Traditional Satanists, laveyans e.t.c.

"They all claim to work directly with him so why all
these different beliefs?"

No, those who believe Satan is a force don't claim to communicate with him. You can't talk to a force. A very small percentage of them claims to communicate directly with the Gods in real time. It's obvious bcuz almost no one of them encourages meditation and opening your astral senses, that's the only real way to get a relationship with them. Some are just infiltrators and lie and have no experiences like some of them saying they're the "Antichrist". Others just have a "feeling" or a subconscious image. They believe what they think is right, I've heard no one of them who contacted Satan and his beliefs changed from what were before because of learning new things from Satan. You can see this as many of them think is about "chaos" and making Satan's appearance how you want him to be, this is lie because Satan has his own appearance and is external being separate from us. You can't learn new things and how Satan really is when you make him in your image, if you do that you'll only see what you believe Satan to be as your subconscious can influence you. To see the real Satan you have to go to him with no expectations and leaving everything you were taught about him behind.

"Shouldn't we all believe the same since he speaks
to HPs and let's them know who he is?"

He speaks not only to hps, but everyone who's open. Satanism is different than xianity in that you can contact him and ask him who he is, not believe what others say. You should do that instead of asking this question IMO. Also ask Satan.

"They also discribe the demons differently."

99% of them copypaste the same info from the jewish grimoires (like astaroth being male), its a fact. Again I've heard no one of them who contacted without being influenced from the info on the jewish grimoires and seeing their true appearance.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Dante Satanas <dante.satanas@ wrote:

Quite simply, those who see Father Satan as a fallen angel are luciferians,
they are wrong. Those who see him as a force are wrong, those who see him as
just an aspect of the mind are levayans they are wrong. Those who say Father
Satan is not Enki are infiltrators trying to turn us away from the truth.

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:29 PM, derikgsthreesixs23 <
derikgsthreesixs23@ wrote:



I'm sure most of you are aware that there's spiritual satanists that have
all kinds of different beliefs. So why do they? We see father satan as the
sumerian god enki right? And I've heard of some that believe he's just a
force throught the universe. Others actually see him as a fallen angel, the
stupidest one if you ask me since xtianity is fake. So why do satanists
disagree on who he is? They all claim to work directly with him so why all
these different beliefs? Shouldn't we all believe the same since he speaks
to HPs and let's them know who he is? Shouldn't he tell other satanists he's
enki? They also discribe the demons differently. I read about this satanist
woman that claims astaroth appears as a man or woman, but why? Is she lying
or what? Can someone explain this to me thanks.
Hail satan!!!






--
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi
That Man Behind The Mist,
-Dante
 
These people obviously do not truly look to Satan and ask Him to show them the Truth or else they would have a different opinion. That is why we Spiritual Satanist believe what we do, because Satan works directly through us, not just the HP's. There are no mediators in Satan. These people who distort Demon images probably get their ideas from the key of solomon, which does have the names of our 72 Goetia but do them no justice. Astaroth is female, I promise you.
  Satan does not co[/IMG]</var> Sincerely,

High Priestess Atheron of the Joy of Satan Ministries
www.JoyOfSatan.com
wwww.exposingchristianity.com

HAIL SATAN!
HAIL ALL THE GODS OF DUAT!
HAIL ASTAROTH!
From: Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] WHY DO SATANISTS DISAGREE?

  N astaroth is a man?this speak for itself.Ashtar is a goddess,the name date back to the far east n sumeria,'astar'oth,th is the sylable of the moon,as in ha'th'a yuga n the rune of the moon 'th'agaz/'d'ay.Male deities are usually shown as solar,female lunar.Like diana goddess of the moon.Horus n ra is solar god.Hope thi7 helped clear up ur confusion.The buybull stole EVERYTHING From true paganism=satanism.Like the number 666,the roman numeral add up to 666(look for my previous post on 666),n the ruman numeral PREDATE the buybull!666 is pagan n not a bible of origin.Remember the key word,PREDATE.

On Sun Jun 12th, 2011 6:29 PM PDT derikgsthreesixs23 wrote:

I'm sure most of you are aware that there's spiritual satanists that have all kinds of different beliefs. So why do they? We see father satan as the sumerian god enki right? And I've heard of some that believe he's just a force throught the universe. Others actually see him as a fallen angel, the stupidest one if you ask me since xtianity is fake. So why do satanists disagree on who he is? They all claim to work directly with him so why all these different beliefs? Shouldn't we all believe the same since he speaks to HPs and let's them know who he is? Shouldn't he tell other satanists he's enki? They also discribe the demons differently. I read about this satanist woman that claims astaroth appears as a man or woman, but why? Is she lying or what? Can someone explain this to me thanks.
Hail satan!!!

 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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