Goldenwings
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Hi,
I hope this thread makes it through the filtration, trust me its not evil, if it doesnt go through i will edit and try again.( Even if i do not see why it won't but got traumatized after my thread was deleted once )thank you for your efforts.
" Even He Who Is Homeless, He Has An Opinion On Why He Did Become So " -cheikh Omar : Amazigh Poet From The Atlas.
Before knowing this forum, i used to like to listen to athiests since at least they are better informed than religious people, then when an athiest is full of sh** i listen to a religious person debating him and hope he beats them, so it was like watching a circus ( i am not belittling people, me myself am an animal
if circus is seen as an insult , it means circus is labeled bad , it means no animal should be tamed unless its viewed from a point of recognising whats happening and see it as a necesary part of life ) anyway , i used the word circus since it fulfilled its duty and made the right image pop in your mind, lets call it cinema instead , or drama whatever.
The thing that enraged me the MOST , is when an athiest (who must not have values, ethics and so on) see another athiest do something that society by now labels as bad ( i am not saying its bad) and then starts sh****g on the the person who did it in a way ( im judging the way and the conviction he has at that moment ) like if he truly had some ethical code written someway. This made me relabel many athiests, i call them: Saint athiest , or athiest Bishop.
The way some religious people talk about ethics enrage me too, claiming an athiest has no ethics and no vslues and so on, and they actually do have them, when in fact, both dont have them, the athiest and the religious person, both have no ethics or values and so on, since if you are following a religion and you believe the God told you to do X and not do Y , and you do X to get favor of the God and avoid Y to avoid punishment
You are surviving ! You are negotiating, you are trying to win in the game , there are no ethical or moral values here , you just avoid punishment and seek pleasure or trophy , you are in no way better than the athiest. And they same things like, " me religion makes me not do X but you, what prevents you from doing it?" , Even if religion tells you that, you can do it and repent , stop acting like if religious people live by whats in their scripture.
The religious person dont surprise me acting that way, the athiest does ,to prove he is against religion he start accepting anything religion denies or try to deny anything religion accepts , not because he truly believes that but just to oppose religion and appear awakened. When in fact you must form your own point of view , independently of religion.
And different athiests have different buttons that turn them on( i cant give extreme examples even if they will serve better , they may be misinterpreted i will use something easy) some will talk about accepting everyone and blaming religion for not doing that ( i dont agree with both) and then he refuse thzt his children have friends who are drug addicts or do the opposite: make it normal that their children have as friends drug addicts , and both are sides of same coin
YOU DONT HAVE OPINIONS YOU DONT HAVE WORLD VIEWS YOU HAVE REACTIONS TO RELIGION, YOUR WHOLE EXISTENCE IS BASED UPON REACTING TO THE RELIGION.
What i like in this forum is that I truly saw people going beyong this trap that both religious people and athiest fall in. Not fully not in the trap, we are all in some extent in it since sometimes its kot a trap, its a valid reaction ( its normal to have reactions to ideas or things that oppose you, and you may even build strategies and walls as a reaction, but the thing that is not normal is to make the WRONG DECISION as a reaction ONLY TO APPEAR MORE EDUCATED OR MORE ENLIGHTNED AND SO ON)
But still compared to athiesm and many other stuff, i saw people here having their own path instead of basing their whole existence on appearing like this or like that just to appear better than religious people.
For example not doing drugs because only religions banned it and now thzt he is not religious he is athiest he can do drugs( i am against that ( to avoid confusion)) or he never drank wine when he was religious , but now because he is not , he can be drunk all day , like if the decision process is all about only : if religion prohibits it , then i can do it. And thats wrong ( i never drank wine , never tried drugs even if i left religion years ago, im not saying that wine is bad, i have nothing against wine, but i am the King in my layer of reality and i choose, i dont care what religion prohibits or encourage, i am the one who commands.)
Do you agree with me? Im curious to know your opinions. Thank you in advance
Hail Zeus!!
I hope this thread makes it through the filtration, trust me its not evil, if it doesnt go through i will edit and try again.( Even if i do not see why it won't but got traumatized after my thread was deleted once )thank you for your efforts.
" Even He Who Is Homeless, He Has An Opinion On Why He Did Become So " -cheikh Omar : Amazigh Poet From The Atlas.
Before knowing this forum, i used to like to listen to athiests since at least they are better informed than religious people, then when an athiest is full of sh** i listen to a religious person debating him and hope he beats them, so it was like watching a circus ( i am not belittling people, me myself am an animal
if circus is seen as an insult , it means circus is labeled bad , it means no animal should be tamed unless its viewed from a point of recognising whats happening and see it as a necesary part of life ) anyway , i used the word circus since it fulfilled its duty and made the right image pop in your mind, lets call it cinema instead , or drama whatever.
The thing that enraged me the MOST , is when an athiest (who must not have values, ethics and so on) see another athiest do something that society by now labels as bad ( i am not saying its bad) and then starts sh****g on the the person who did it in a way ( im judging the way and the conviction he has at that moment ) like if he truly had some ethical code written someway. This made me relabel many athiests, i call them: Saint athiest , or athiest Bishop.
The way some religious people talk about ethics enrage me too, claiming an athiest has no ethics and no vslues and so on, and they actually do have them, when in fact, both dont have them, the athiest and the religious person, both have no ethics or values and so on, since if you are following a religion and you believe the God told you to do X and not do Y , and you do X to get favor of the God and avoid Y to avoid punishment
You are surviving ! You are negotiating, you are trying to win in the game , there are no ethical or moral values here , you just avoid punishment and seek pleasure or trophy , you are in no way better than the athiest. And they same things like, " me religion makes me not do X but you, what prevents you from doing it?" , Even if religion tells you that, you can do it and repent , stop acting like if religious people live by whats in their scripture.
The religious person dont surprise me acting that way, the athiest does ,to prove he is against religion he start accepting anything religion denies or try to deny anything religion accepts , not because he truly believes that but just to oppose religion and appear awakened. When in fact you must form your own point of view , independently of religion.
And different athiests have different buttons that turn them on( i cant give extreme examples even if they will serve better , they may be misinterpreted i will use something easy) some will talk about accepting everyone and blaming religion for not doing that ( i dont agree with both) and then he refuse thzt his children have friends who are drug addicts or do the opposite: make it normal that their children have as friends drug addicts , and both are sides of same coin
YOU DONT HAVE OPINIONS YOU DONT HAVE WORLD VIEWS YOU HAVE REACTIONS TO RELIGION, YOUR WHOLE EXISTENCE IS BASED UPON REACTING TO THE RELIGION.
What i like in this forum is that I truly saw people going beyong this trap that both religious people and athiest fall in. Not fully not in the trap, we are all in some extent in it since sometimes its kot a trap, its a valid reaction ( its normal to have reactions to ideas or things that oppose you, and you may even build strategies and walls as a reaction, but the thing that is not normal is to make the WRONG DECISION as a reaction ONLY TO APPEAR MORE EDUCATED OR MORE ENLIGHTNED AND SO ON)
But still compared to athiesm and many other stuff, i saw people here having their own path instead of basing their whole existence on appearing like this or like that just to appear better than religious people.
For example not doing drugs because only religions banned it and now thzt he is not religious he is athiest he can do drugs( i am against that ( to avoid confusion)) or he never drank wine when he was religious , but now because he is not , he can be drunk all day , like if the decision process is all about only : if religion prohibits it , then i can do it. And thats wrong ( i never drank wine , never tried drugs even if i left religion years ago, im not saying that wine is bad, i have nothing against wine, but i am the King in my layer of reality and i choose, i dont care what religion prohibits or encourage, i am the one who commands.)
Do you agree with me? Im curious to know your opinions. Thank you in advance
Hail Zeus!!