True path... ???

[Botan shijo]

Hi everyone

As you know i am new around here, i was really surprised when i came across JoS and started reading about Satan, i never looked at him the way JoS made me look, not from that prespective but i came across JoS in the first place because i was trying to find a way to devote myself to Satan having Satan pictured in my head the way i was taught as a "normal" guy, you may think i am a evil person but that is not the case, trust me, on my first post i explain my motives, basically i hate the christian god (also explained on my first post).

My first post:
http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/Joyof ... sage/98663

Turns out, like i said, that Satan (according to JoS description) is nowere near what i though he was, all my life we are taught that satan is evil and then, among millions of people you find a couple dozen saying he is good and the true god, i can live with it, regardless, i came here to devote myself to him, because we can all agree on something, he hates the christian god and jesus, enough for me, took me some time to picture him the way JoS describes and sometimes i still struggle a bit.

I did my dedication nontheless, actually i did when my doubts about info on JoS were at a peak, i still did it simply because regardless of JoS being true or false i know i want to dedicate myself to him, so i did it convinced that the christian god do exist and that i would surely die for turning myself against him so i dont really care about who's right and whos wrong about Satan, in my mind i always pictured him as some kind of rebel who doesn't give a damm about what is good or bad, just what he wants, i think in some way we can all identify ourselves with that.

Anyway, the thing that is troubling me is that i am still finding a bit hard to "digest" some info on JoS and like that wasn't enough i see guys everyday talking about conversations with demons like they are talking about conversations with some friend from school or something like that, make it sound so common that you almost doubt if it's really true, until one talks to me i will always doubt and then, there i go again, struggling again, and when i am about to get over it then some guy pops up talking about shapeshifting and astral projection, or pyrokinesis (setting objects on fire with our mind), i mean, i want to take this serious, i DO want to establish some relation with the one i very PROUDLY< adress to as my father but one must wonder, am i really in the right place?
Maybe i am but truth is, i can't help but feel ridiculous sometimes and that thought is almost built-in in my subconscious when i am meditating, even if i am not thinking about it its always present.

Trust me, now this WILL sound ridiculous, i dont remember what post it was but i even said that i would like to see anything out of normal, even if it was greys attacking me and even not being prepared to fight them, if i saw just the tinniest thing that i saw as demon intervention or any kind of "unexplainable phenomenon" all my determination and beliefs would take a huge leap for the better but being constantly bombarded with stuff that sound like fairy tales (not saying it is but put yourself in my shoes for a moment) when i am still struggling on my first meditation steps is seriously driving me nuts.

I know that regardless of JoS being true or false, i haven't mastered the knowllege there to make precise conclusions, so right now the only things that keeps me going is the fact that i am looking at myself as a ignorant waiting to be enlightned, always looking for new posts, trying to hear of others experiences but there are aways guys who make this sound like it's all fake, i think i would be happy if i saw a knife flying arround trying to stab me right now.

One thing is for sure, i dont regret my dedication... for all it's worth to our father satan, at least the intention was clear.

Thanks for reading
Tiago Cabral

 

[HPS Lydia]

I have an unusual answer/solution:

Don't check these groups for a while! Keep studying JoS, keep meditating, keep doing yoga, and then come back. I didn't join the groups until I had been dedicated and meditating for 3-4 months, so I felt ready to read all posts here and handle all the "unusual" things lol.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tiago_filipe_cabral" <tiago_filipe_cabral@... wrote:

Hi everyone

As you know i am new around here, i was really surprised when i came across JoS and started reading about Satan, i never looked at him the way JoS made me look, not from that prespective but i came across JoS in the first place because i was trying to find a way to devote myself to Satan having Satan pictured in my head the way i was taught as a "normal" guy, you may think i am a evil person but that is not the case, trust me, on my first post i explain my motives, basically i hate the christian god (also explained on my first post).

My first post:
http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/Joyof ... sage/98663

Turns out, like i said, that Satan (according to JoS description) is nowere near what i though he was, all my life we are taught that satan is evil and then, among millions of people you find a couple dozen saying he is good and the true god, i can live with it, regardless, i came here to devote myself to him, because we can all agree on something, he hates the christian god and jesus, enough for me, took me some time to picture him the way JoS describes and sometimes i still struggle a bit.

I did my dedication nontheless, actually i did when my doubts about info on JoS were at a peak, i still did it simply because regardless of JoS being true or false i know i want to dedicate myself to him, so i did it convinced that the christian god do exist and that i would surely die for turning myself against him so i dont really care about who's right and whos wrong about Satan, in my mind i always pictured him as some kind of rebel who doesn't give a damm about what is good or bad, just what he wants, i think in some way we can all identify ourselves with that.

Anyway, the thing that is troubling me is that i am still finding a bit hard to "digest" some info on JoS and like that wasn't enough i see guys everyday talking about conversations with demons like they are talking about conversations with some friend from school or something like that, make it sound so common that you almost doubt if it's really true, until one talks to me i will always doubt and then, there i go again, struggling again, and when i am about to get over it then some guy pops up talking about shapeshifting and astral projection, or pyrokinesis (setting objects on fire with our mind), i mean, i want to take this serious, i DO want to establish some relation with the one i very PROUDLY< adress to as my father but one must wonder, am i really in the right place?
Maybe i am but truth is, i can't help but feel ridiculous sometimes and that thought is almost built-in in my subconscious when i am meditating, even if i am not thinking about it its always present.

Trust me, now this WILL sound ridiculous, i dont remember what post it was but i even said that i would like to see anything out of normal, even if it was greys attacking me and even not being prepared to fight them, if i saw just the tinniest thing that i saw as demon intervention or any kind of "unexplainable phenomenon" all my determination and beliefs would take a huge leap for the better but being constantly bombarded with stuff that sound like fairy tales (not saying it is but put yourself in my shoes for a moment) when i am still struggling on my first meditation steps is seriously driving me nuts.

I know that regardless of JoS being true or false, i haven't mastered the knowllege there to make precise conclusions, so right now the only things that keeps me going is the fact that i am looking at myself as a ignorant waiting to be enlightned, always looking for new posts, trying to hear of others experiences but there are aways guys who make this sound like it's all fake, i think i would be happy if i saw a knife flying arround trying to stab me right now.

One thing is for sure, i dont regret my dedication... for all it's worth to our father satan, at least the intention was clear.

Thanks for reading
Tiago Cabral

 

[Abelardo Newingham]

Hey.. I don't know if you got my last email.. I'm kinda using crappy wifi.. But I felt the exact same way... I've been wanting to have a one on one conversation, or a heart to heart if you will with another satanist.. Or at least have a decent intellectual conversation about satanism and psychology please reply thank you

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 4, 2013, at 1:42 AM, "tiago_filipe_cabral" <tiago_filipe_cabral@... wrote:

  Hi everyone

As you know i am new around here, i was really surprised when i came across JoS and started reading about Satan, i never looked at him the way JoS made me look, not from that prespective but i came across JoS in the first place because i was trying to find a way to devote myself to Satan having Satan pictured in my head the way i was taught as a "normal" guy, you may think i am a evil person but that is not the case, trust me, on my first post i explain my motives, basically i hate the christian god (also explained on my first post).

My first post:
http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/Joyof ... sage/98663

Turns out, like i said, that Satan (according to JoS description) is nowere near what i though he was, all my life we are taught that satan is evil and then, among millions of people you find a couple dozen saying he is good and the true god, i can live with it, regardless, i came here to devote myself to him, because we can all agree on something, he hates the christian god and jesus, enough for me, took me some time to picture him the way JoS describes and sometimes i still struggle a bit.

I did my dedication nontheless, actually i did when my doubts about info on JoS were at a peak, i still did it simply because regardless of JoS being true or false i know i want to dedicate myself to him, so i did it convinced that the christian god do exist and that i would surely die for turning myself against him so i dont really care about who's right and whos wrong about Satan, in my mind i always pictured him as some kind of rebel who doesn't give a damm about what is good or bad, just what he wants, i think in some way we can all identify ourselves with that.

Anyway, the thing that is troubling me is that i am still finding a bit hard to "digest" some info on JoS and like that wasn't enough i see guys everyday talking about conversations with demons like they are talking about conversations with some friend from school or something like that, make it sound so common that you almost doubt if it's really true, until one talks to me i will always doubt and then, there i go again, struggling again, and when i am about to get over it then some guy pops up talking about shapeshifting and astral projection, or pyrokinesis (setting objects on fire with our mind), i mean, i want to take this serious, i DO want to establish some relation with the one i very PROUDLY< adress to as my father but one must wonder, am i really in the right place?
Maybe i am but truth is, i can't help but feel ridiculous sometimes and that thought is almost built-in in my subconscious when i am meditating, even if i am not thinking about it its always present.

Trust me, now this WILL sound ridiculous, i dont remember what post it was but i even said that i would like to see anything out of normal, even if it was greys attacking me and even not being prepared to fight them, if i saw just the tinniest thing that i saw as demon intervention or any kind of "unexplainable phenomenon" all my determination and beliefs would take a huge leap for the better but being constantly bombarded with stuff that sound like fairy tales (not saying it is but put yourself in my shoes for a moment) when i am still struggling on my first meditation steps is seriously driving me nuts.

I know that regardless of JoS being true or false, i haven't mastered the knowllege there to make precise conclusions, so right now the only things that keeps me going is the fact that i am looking at myself as a ignorant waiting to be enlightned, always looking for new posts, trying to hear of others experiences but there are aways guys who make this sound like it's all fake, i think i would be happy if i saw a knife flying arround trying to stab me right now.

One thing is for sure, i dont regret my dedication... for all it's worth to our father satan, at least the intention was clear.

Thanks for reading
Tiago Cabral

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Because pyrokinesis and other things like that ARE real and some people do communicate a lot with the Gods. As it is said before, you need to be astrally open and practice. These people aren't newbies, but very advanced. It's much like people who can lift very heavy weights and do amazing things with their body, it's because they've trained hard. Obviously nobody said that this happens instantly, it's possible but it takes hard work.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tiago_filipe_cabral" <tiago_filipe_cabral@... wrote:

Hi everyone

As you know i am new around here, i was really surprised when i came across JoS and started reading about Satan, i never looked at him the way JoS made me look, not from that prespective but i came across JoS in the first place because i was trying to find a way to devote myself to Satan having Satan pictured in my head the way i was taught as a "normal" guy, you may think i am a evil person but that is not the case, trust me, on my first post i explain my motives, basically i hate the christian god (also explained on my first post).

My first post:
http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/Joyof ... sage/98663

Turns out, like i said, that Satan (according to JoS description) is nowere near what i though he was, all my life we are taught that satan is evil and then, among millions of people you find a couple dozen saying he is good and the true god, i can live with it, regardless, i came here to devote myself to him, because we can all agree on something, he hates the christian god and jesus, enough for me, took me some time to picture him the way JoS describes and sometimes i still struggle a bit.

I did my dedication nontheless, actually i did when my doubts about info on JoS were at a peak, i still did it simply because regardless of JoS being true or false i know i want to dedicate myself to him, so i did it convinced that the christian god do exist and that i would surely die for turning myself against him so i dont really care about who's right and whos wrong about Satan, in my mind i always pictured him as some kind of rebel who doesn't give a damm about what is good or bad, just what he wants, i think in some way we can all identify ourselves with that.

Anyway, the thing that is troubling me is that i am still finding a bit hard to "digest" some info on JoS and like that wasn't enough i see guys everyday talking about conversations with demons like they are talking about conversations with some friend from school or something like that, make it sound so common that you almost doubt if it's really true, until one talks to me i will always doubt and then, there i go again, struggling again, and when i am about to get over it then some guy pops up talking about shapeshifting and astral projection, or pyrokinesis (setting objects on fire with our mind), i mean, i want to take this serious, i DO want to establish some relation with the one i very PROUDLY< adress to as my father but one must wonder, am i really in the right place?
Maybe i am but truth is, i can't help but feel ridiculous sometimes and that thought is almost built-in in my subconscious when i am meditating, even if i am not thinking about it its always present.

Trust me, now this WILL sound ridiculous, i dont remember what post it was but i even said that i would like to see anything out of normal, even if it was greys attacking me and even not being prepared to fight them, if i saw just the tinniest thing that i saw as demon intervention or any kind of "unexplainable phenomenon" all my determination and beliefs would take a huge leap for the better but being constantly bombarded with stuff that sound like fairy tales (not saying it is but put yourself in my shoes for a moment) when i am still struggling on my first meditation steps is seriously driving me nuts.

I know that regardless of JoS being true or false, i haven't mastered the knowllege there to make precise conclusions, so right now the only things that keeps me going is the fact that i am looking at myself as a ignorant waiting to be enlightned, always looking for new posts, trying to hear of others experiences but there are aways guys who make this sound like it's all fake, i think i would be happy if i saw a knife flying arround trying to stab me right now.

One thing is for sure, i dont regret my dedication... for all it's worth to our father satan, at least the intention was clear.

Thanks for reading
Tiago Cabral

 

[Dino Dizdarevic]

I research about every working and ability, and they're all scientificaly do-able. (10% are not yet proven because we lack scientists who mastered those particular subjects).
I do not like fairy tales either, that's why I want to understand everything, and trust me I do.



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On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 12:51 AM PDT the_fire_starter666 wrote:

Because pyrokinesis and other things like that ARE real and some people do communicate a lot with the Gods. As it is said before, you need to be astrally open and practice. These people aren't newbies, but very advanced. It's much like people who can lift very heavy weights and do amazing things with their body, it's because they've trained hard. Obviously nobody said that this happens instantly, it's possible but it takes hard work.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tiago_filipe_cabral" <tiago_filipe_cabral@... wrote:

Hi everyone

As you know i am new around here, i was really surprised when i came across JoS and started reading about Satan, i never looked at him the way JoS made me look, not from that prespective but i came across JoS in the first place because i was trying to find a way to devote myself to Satan having Satan pictured in my head the way i was taught as a "normal" guy, you may think i am a evil person but that is not the case, trust me, on my first post i explain my motives, basically i hate the christian god (also explained on my first post).

My first post:
http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/Joyof ... sage/98663

Turns out, like i said, that Satan (according to JoS description) is nowere near what i though he was, all my life we are taught that satan is evil and then, among millions of people you find a couple dozen saying he is good and the true god, i can live with it, regardless, i came here to devote myself to him, because we can all agree on something, he hates the christian god and jesus, enough for me, took me some time to picture him the way JoS describes and sometimes i still struggle a bit.

I did my dedication nontheless, actually i did when my doubts about info on JoS were at a peak, i still did it simply because regardless of JoS being true or false i know i want to dedicate myself to him, so i did it convinced that the christian god do exist and that i would surely die for turning myself against him so i dont really care about who's right and whos wrong about Satan, in my mind i always pictured him as some kind of rebel who doesn't give a damm about what is good or bad, just what he wants, i think in some way we can all identify

 

[Botan shijo]

@the_fire_starter666
Not saying otherwise, i didn't came here to say it's all a lie, if that was the case i wouldn't even bother wasting my time saying it, i am just exposing my perspective just you guys know why i struggle.
If you told a "regular" guy that levitation, shapeshifting, telekynesys etc is possible and he believed you without the slightest doubt what would you think?

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@Dino Dizdarevic
Dont get me wrong, but are you actually saying that all the "magic stuff" mentioned here so far (except 10%) are scientifically proven.

I started studying physics with 13, i am 28 now, please, don't bring my skeptic side up and dont mention the word science, so far i have just been resorting to common sense and it's already hard enough that way but please, since you understand everything, would you care to explain... say... astral projection?...

Were should we begin...
Carl Sagan 4th dimension theory?
René Descartes's mind\body dualism theory?
meta-universe theories? (so many)
Should i bring religious stuff into the equation?
...
...
...

You are not the only one who studies stuff, i do my homework too and i study a lot, i started studying physics when i was 11 (28 now), i also study philosophy, and the more i study the more i need to study, if you have a skeptics mind (scientific in other words), every single thing you learn raises a dozen questions and each of those dozen, another dozen and so on, and i am talking about math (the only exact science) now imagine spiritual stuff, that is why Socrates once said:

"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing."

Speaking of science let me quote one of my idols...
Neil deGrasse Tyson once said in a interview:

"Eyewitnesses may be the highest form of evidence in a court of law but they are the lowest one in science"

Not saying i doubt everyone here but don't get me wrong when i say see to believe, because if i believe in some stuff mentioned here without seeing them first then i bet i will probably be seeing and hearing some weird things through the rest of my life anyways if you get my drift...

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@Abelardo Newingham
My facebook profile is Tiago Cabral (CryptorX@...) if you want to chat about some stuff, i sure do...

 

[the_fire_starter666]

"If you told a "regular" guy that levitation, shapeshifting, telekynesys etc is possible and he believed you without the slightest doubt what would you think?"

Do you think a "regular" guy would be interested in SS??? The fact that someone is interested in SS it means that at least he considers the possibility and doesn't dismiss them.

And like Dino said, there's much scientific evidence for telekinesis and things like that. A good source is Dean Radin's blog in deanradin.blogspot.com He shows much evidence about survival of consciousness, ESP, remote viewing and stuff like that. He only says that there's not enough evidence of macro-PK like levitation as there are very few people who can do that.

So yes, the micro stuff has been proven scientifically, even phone telepathy has been tested.

Unless you're talking about the mainstream scientific community which is jewish and based in a very old model and promotes total materialism and researching those things is considered taboo and makes you lose your job.

Many of those supposedly "supernatural" things can be explained by quantum physics. If you research more about quantum physics, it even proves the existence of a soul (since it's been found our body contains Neutrinos as well. There is an article about that in JoS). As HP Maxine said, spirituality and science go hand-in-hand. If you become very advanced in science you'll see where they both meet together (again I'm not talking about the mainstream science which is BS) and that's the reason xianity has attacked science. Truth is that we're not so advanced in science.

True science is spiritual, more specifically meta-physical.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tiago_filipe_cabral" <tiago_filipe_cabral@... wrote:

@the_fire_starter666
Not saying otherwise, i didn't came here to say it's all a lie, if that was the case i wouldn't even bother wasting my time saying it, i am just exposing my perspective just you guys know why i struggle.
If you told a "regular" guy that levitation, shapeshifting, telekynesys etc is possible and he believed you without the slightest doubt what would you think?

--------------------------------------------------

@Dino Dizdarevic
Dont get me wrong, but are you actually saying that all the "magic stuff" mentioned here so far (except 10%) are scientifically proven.

I started studying physics with 13, i am 28 now, please, don't bring my skeptic side up and dont mention the word science, so far i have just been resorting to common sense and it's already hard enough that way but please, since you understand everything, would you care to explain... say... astral projection?...

Were should we begin...
Carl Sagan 4th dimension theory?
René Descartes's mind\body dualism theory?
meta-universe theories? (so many)
Should i bring religious stuff into the equation?
...
...
...

You are not the only one who studies stuff, i do my homework too and i study a lot, i started studying physics when i was 11 (28 now), i also study philosophy, and the more i study the more i need to study, if you have a skeptics mind (scientific in other words), every single thing you learn raises a dozen questions and each of those dozen, another dozen and so on, and i am talking about math (the only exact science) now imagine spiritual stuff, that is why Socrates once said:

"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing."

Speaking of science let me quote one of my idols...
Neil deGrasse Tyson once said in a interview:

"Eyewitnesses may be the highest form of evidence in a court of law but they are the lowest one in science"

Not saying i doubt everyone here but don't get me wrong when i say see to believe, because if i believe in some stuff mentioned here without seeing them first then i bet i will probably be seeing and hearing some weird things through the rest of my life anyways if you get my drift...

--------------------------------------------------

@Abelardo Newingham
My facebook profile is Tiago Cabral (CryptorX@...) if you want to chat about some stuff, i sure do...

 

[the_fire_starter666]

This article from JoS I'm talking about:

http://www.freewebs.com/eridu666/Metaphysics.html

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

"If you told a "regular" guy that levitation, shapeshifting, telekynesys etc is possible and he believed you without the slightest doubt what would you think?"

Do you think a "regular" guy would be interested in SS??? The fact that someone is interested in SS it means that at least he considers the possibility and doesn't dismiss them.

And like Dino said, there's much scientific evidence for telekinesis and things like that. A good source is Dean Radin's blog in deanradin.blogspot.com He shows much evidence about survival of consciousness, ESP, remote viewing and stuff like that. He only says that there's not enough evidence of macro-PK like levitation as there are very few people who can do that.

So yes, the micro stuff has been proven scientifically, even phone telepathy has been tested.

Unless you're talking about the mainstream scientific community which is jewish and based in a very old model and promotes total materialism and researching those things is considered taboo and makes you lose your job.

Many of those supposedly "supernatural" things can be explained by quantum physics. If you research more about quantum physics, it even proves the existence of a soul (since it's been found our body contains Neutrinos as well. There is an article about that in JoS). As HP Maxine said, spirituality and science go hand-in-hand. If you become very advanced in science you'll see where they both meet together (again I'm not talking about the mainstream science which is BS) and that's the reason xianity has attacked science. Truth is that we're not so advanced in science.

True science is spiritual, more specifically meta-physical.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tiago_filipe_cabral" <tiago_filipe_cabral@ wrote:

@the_fire_starter666
Not saying otherwise, i didn't came here to say it's all a lie, if that was the case i wouldn't even bother wasting my time saying it, i am just exposing my perspective just you guys know why i struggle.
If you told a "regular" guy that levitation, shapeshifting, telekynesys etc is possible and he believed you without the slightest doubt what would you think?

--------------------------------------------------

@Dino Dizdarevic
Dont get me wrong, but are you actually saying that all the "magic stuff" mentioned here so far (except 10%) are scientifically proven.

I started studying physics with 13, i am 28 now, please, don't bring my skeptic side up and dont mention the word science, so far i have just been resorting to common sense and it's already hard enough that way but please, since you understand everything, would you care to explain... say... astral projection?...

Were should we begin...
Carl Sagan 4th dimension theory?
René Descartes's mind\body dualism theory?
meta-universe theories? (so many)
Should i bring religious stuff into the equation?
...
...
...

You are not the only one who studies stuff, i do my homework too and i study a lot, i started studying physics when i was 11 (28 now), i also study philosophy, and the more i study the more i need to study, if you have a skeptics mind (scientific in other words), every single thing you learn raises a dozen questions and each of those dozen, another dozen and so on, and i am talking about math (the only exact science) now imagine spiritual stuff, that is why Socrates once said:

"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing."

Speaking of science let me quote one of my idols...
Neil deGrasse Tyson once said in a interview:

"Eyewitnesses may be the highest form of evidence in a court of law but they are the lowest one in science"

Not saying i doubt everyone here but don't get me wrong when i say see to believe, because if i believe in some stuff mentioned here without seeing them first then i bet i will probably be seeing and hearing some weird things through the rest of my life anyways if you get my drift...

--------------------------------------------------

@Abelardo Newingham
My facebook profile is Tiago Cabral (CryptorX@) if you want to chat about some stuff, i sure do...

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Some Brother (or Sister) posted some nice links about quantum physics as well, and how they apply to Spirituality:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JoyofSata ... sage/92671

And this post as well:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JoyofSata ... sage/51474

This:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JoyofSata ... sage/75096

That's what I really mean true science. I.e. Quantum Physics. The materialistic newtonian-type science they push is outdated and doesn't apply at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

This article from JoS I'm talking about:

http://www.freewebs.com/eridu666/Metaphysics.html

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

"If you told a "regular" guy that levitation, shapeshifting, telekynesys etc is possible and he believed you without the slightest doubt what would you think?"

Do you think a "regular" guy would be interested in SS??? The fact that someone is interested in SS it means that at least he considers the possibility and doesn't dismiss them.

And like Dino said, there's much scientific evidence for telekinesis and things like that. A good source is Dean Radin's blog in deanradin.blogspot.com He shows much evidence about survival of consciousness, ESP, remote viewing and stuff like that. He only says that there's not enough evidence of macro-PK like levitation as there are very few people who can do that.

So yes, the micro stuff has been proven scientifically, even phone telepathy has been tested.

Unless you're talking about the mainstream scientific community which is jewish and based in a very old model and promotes total materialism and researching those things is considered taboo and makes you lose your job.

Many of those supposedly "supernatural" things can be explained by quantum physics. If you research more about quantum physics, it even proves the existence of a soul (since it's been found our body contains Neutrinos as well. There is an article about that in JoS). As HP Maxine said, spirituality and science go hand-in-hand. If you become very advanced in science you'll see where they both meet together (again I'm not talking about the mainstream science which is BS) and that's the reason xianity has attacked science. Truth is that we're not so advanced in science.

True science is spiritual, more specifically meta-physical.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tiago_filipe_cabral" <tiago_filipe_cabral@ wrote:

@the_fire_starter666
Not saying otherwise, i didn't came here to say it's all a lie, if that was the case i wouldn't even bother wasting my time saying it, i am just exposing my perspective just you guys know why i struggle.
If you told a "regular" guy that levitation, shapeshifting, telekynesys etc is possible and he believed you without the slightest doubt what would you think?

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@Dino Dizdarevic
Dont get me wrong, but are you actually saying that all the "magic stuff" mentioned here so far (except 10%) are scientifically proven.

I started studying physics with 13, i am 28 now, please, don't bring my skeptic side up and dont mention the word science, so far i have just been resorting to common sense and it's already hard enough that way but please, since you understand everything, would you care to explain... say... astral projection?...

Were should we begin...
Carl Sagan 4th dimension theory?
René Descartes's mind\body dualism theory?
meta-universe theories? (so many)
Should i bring religious stuff into the equation?
...
...
...

You are not the only one who studies stuff, i do my homework too and i study a lot, i started studying physics when i was 11 (28 now), i also study philosophy, and the more i study the more i need to study, if you have a skeptics mind (scientific in other words), every single thing you learn raises a dozen questions and each of those dozen, another dozen and so on, and i am talking about math (the only exact science) now imagine spiritual stuff, that is why Socrates once said:

"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing."

Speaking of science let me quote one of my idols...
Neil deGrasse Tyson once said in a interview:

"Eyewitnesses may be the highest form of evidence in a court of law but they are the lowest one in science"

Not saying i doubt everyone here but don't get me wrong when i say see to believe, because if i believe in some stuff mentioned here without seeing them first then i bet i will probably be seeing and hearing some weird things through the rest of my life anyways if you get my drift...

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@Abelardo Newingham
My facebook profile is Tiago Cabral (CryptorX@) if you want to chat about some stuff, i sure do...

 

[Botan shijo]

Thanks for all the work putting all that info together... i read it all and watched the full video, only skipped a few parts when no one was talking...

I must say i was quite impressed about the way vibrations can affect stuff, that sheds some light on how vibrations during meditation can affect us, it's still a loose piece in my head because those frequencies seem to be very precise to reach specific patterns unless the purpose is to simply make our chakras vibrate in the same frequency, i believe that is what you consider aligning them (i never studied that part in dept since i am still doing breathing exercises).

Just so you and anyone else reading this don't think i doubt everything let me explain something, what i am about to say is merely my concept about what our mind\soul is, haven't read this anywhere but it was what led me to study René Descartes Body\Mind Dualism theory.

Studying philosophy makes us wonder about a lot of things and i am already an extremely curious guy by nature and one of the things that intrigues me the most is what is our mind, the very essence of who i am and, above everything... what generates it?

I find it really hard that our body, even being an engineering marvel as it is can't generate a mind on his own when we are born, in the end it's just a bunch of molecules and atoms organized and reacting in a very precise way but that alone can't generate a conscience... but... it is clear that messing with our brain can affect us... the way we think and behave... so were does that leave us?... is our mind/conscience really generated by our brains? (Forget the rest of the body, it's just a machine that can be seen simply as a mean of travel and interaction with the outside... lol)

Well, i don't believe that matter can generate a conscience, it just can't, but it can store info, pretty much the same way we do it with hard drives, cd's dvd's etc... (Obviously our brain does more then that like controlling our body functions but i am not going to talk about the autonomic nervous system now...)

But that alone is not enough to generate a conscience, what makes me aware of things, what makes me curious, what makes me hate, love... not talking about senses, just feelings... Using magnetic resonances we can see that each individual feeling can be associated with specific parts of our brain, still, does it mean that our brain control those feelings?

I think not, i think our brain (regarding our mind) is simply a storage device, that stores our memories that define who we are, the way we behave and react to certain events is based on our past memories\experiences and feelings are affected\generated by those that are stored in certain parts of our brain, that is why different feelings will activate different parts, not because they are generated on those parts but because those parts contain memories or are responsible for cognitive functions that affect the way we feel.

So far so good... but wait a minute... Our brain stores info that define who we are? Is responsible for our cognitive capabilities that define the way we think?... a simple piece of matter composed by atoms and molecules...

Imagine for a second, even knowing it's not possible for today's science, that we could replicate our body, atom by atom even placing electrons in their exact positions as they were on their orbits around their respective atoms... a perfect copy of our body.
It doesn't take a genius to know we wouldn't be in both bodies, nor would a body mimic the other like a single "mind" was controlling both, we wouldn't be able to see things through the other body's eyes... that body would work, his organs would work, he would have memories he would have everything except one thing... a conscience, it would be a totally inanimate body except for the physiological functions, the body would work but it would be like a permanent coma. Why? Because something is attaching us to our bodies and that thing can be "copied"... something unique...

And that brings me to the only possible explanation, the existence of a soul, the very essence of our conscience/consciousness which is limited by our mind and cognitive capabilities that are also limited by our perception of the reality we live in.

This leads me to believe that our brain is simply what is linking our soul to the reality we live in and that generates a mind that applies solely to this specific body but not the soul, if we could somehow take control of our soul, provided our souls offers us ways to do it we could shape what we are easily, by shaping the way the way she interacts with our body, therefore, shaping our mind to our will...

Imagine, how many guys kill themselves for love, if they could simple take control, not of their feelings but what generates them, they could just switch from a deep depression to simply enjoy life like they never thought possible, i think that is where hypnosis comes in, i believe it to be some kind of induced meditation that brings us to a different level of consciousness that allows us to see ourselves in a "third person" view, viewing our mind and body (the body is irrelevant here) from our soul's perspective, not like the soul have eyes (don't know about that), but giving us a innerview of ourselves.

Anyway, these are just my thoughts and my theories, i could go on and on but i am already touching a lot of subjects and i don't want to have a debate like this in a topic with this name.

I just wanted to make clear that i do believe in the existence of a soul and that there must be a way to use it to our advantage and being able to do it will undoubtedly give us access to energies we never believed to exist, my body is made of bones and flesh, so i can use it to interact with matter, my soul in the other hand is made of... well... neutrinos?, dark matter?, dark energy?, ectoplasm?... don't know... but one thing is for sure, it is made of energy\radiation if it links to my body and i can't see it so if i could somehow control that energy i believe i could do a lot of stuff that i never thought possible (but not shape shifting)...

How i think some techniques work:

astral projection - disconnect our souls from our body temporarily (probably just a partial disconection)

telekinesys - i don't see how our soul's energy can affect matter directly (don't even know what type of energy is) but it will probably be able to induce momentum on a object like it was moving all along, momentum is the product of speed and mass and it's energy, when we are flesh and bones (matter) we interact with matter, when we are energy (soul) we interact with energy. The same goes to pyrokinesys.

Shapeshifting... i simply don't see how... shaping our soul? probably... but why would we even care about it?...

Anyway... i do believe is some phenomenons but this is based on my own ideas and trust me, i don't doubt myself less then i doubt others, it's just a theory that i want to explore.

But that is not what led me to JoS, i simply came here to establish a relationship with Satan, wasn't looking for "paranormal" capacities, but doubting them only made me doubt about the rest and question myself if this was the true path...

Cheers

 

[Botan shijo]

(ignore my last message, i found some misspelling that affect what i meant making some statements totally irrational... like i said in my first post english is not my first language... sorry about that, i decided to post my previous message again but with minor changes...)

Thanks for all the work putting all that info together... i read it all and watched the full video, only skipped a few parts when no one was talking...

I must say i was quite impressed about the way vibrations can affect stuff, that sheds some light on how vibrations during meditation can affect us, it's still a loose piece in my head because those frequencies seem to be very precise to reach specific patterns unless the purpose is to simply make our chakras vibrate in the same frequency, i believe that is what you consider aligning them (i
never studied that part in dept since i am still doing breathing exercises).

Just so you and anyone else reading this don't think i doubt everything let me explain something, what i am about to say is merely my concept about what our mind\soul is, haven't read this anywhere but it was what led me to study René Descartes Body\Mind Dualism theory.

Studying philosophy makes us wonder about a lot of things and i am already an extremely curious guy by nature and one of the things that intrigues me the most is what is our mind, the very essence of who i am and, above everything... what generates it?

I find it really hard that our body, even being an engineering marvel as it is can generate a mind on his own when we are born, in the end it's just a bunch of molecules and atoms organized and reacting in a very precise way but that alone can't generate a conscience... but... it is clear that messing with our brain can affect us... the way we think and behave... so were does that leave us?... is our mind/conscience really generated by our brains? (Forget the rest of the body, it's just a machine that can be seen simply as a mean of travel and interaction with the outside... lol)

Well, i don't believe that matter can generate a conscience, it just can't, but it can store info, pretty much the same way we do it with hard drives, cd's dvd's etc... (Obviously our brain does more then that like controlling our body functions but i am not going to talk about the autonomic nervous system now...)

But that alone is not enough to generate a conscience, what makes me aware of things, what makes me curious, what makes me hate, love... not talking about senses, just feelings... Using magnetic resonances we can see that each individual feeling can be associated with specific parts of our brain, still, does it mean that our brain control those feelings?

I think not, i think our brain (regarding our mind) is simply a storage device, that stores our memories that define who we are, the way we behave and react to certain events is based on our past memories\experiences and feelings are affected\generated by those that are stored in certain parts of our brain, that is why different feelings will activate different parts, not because they are
generated on those parts but because those parts contain memories or are responsible for cognitive functions that affect the way we feel.

So far so good... but wait a minute... Our brain stores info that define who we are? Is responsible for our cognitive capabilities that define the way we think?... a "simple" piece of matter composed by atoms...

Imagine for a second, even knowing it's not possible for today's science, that we could replicate our body, atom by atom even placing electrons in their exact positions as they were on their orbits around their respective atoms... a perfect copy of our body.
It doesn't take a genius to know we wouldn't be in both bodies, nor would a body mimic the other like a single "mind" was controlling both, we wouldn't be able to see things through the other body's eyes... that body would work, his organs would work, he would have memories he would have everything except one thing...
a consciousness, it would be a totally inanimate body except for the physiological functions, the body would work but it would be like a permanent coma. Why?
Because something is attaching us to our bodies and that thing can't be "copied"... something unique...

And that brings me to the only possible explanation, the existence of what we call a soul, the very essence of our conscience/consciousness which is limited by our mind and cognitive capabilities that are also limited by our perception of the reality we live in.

This leads me to believe that our brain is simply what is linking our soul to the reality we live in and that generates a mind that applies solely to this specific body based on our memories and experiences in this reality but not the soul, if we could somehow take control of our soul, provided our souls offers us ways to do it we could shape what we are easily, by shaping the way she interacts with our body, therefore, shaping our mind to our will...

Imagine, how many guys kill themselves for love, if they could simple take control, not of their feelings but what generates them, they could just switch from a deep depression to simply enjoy life like they never thought possible, i think that is where hypnosis comes in, i believe it to be some kind of induced meditation that brings us to a different level of consciousness that allows us to see ourselves in a "third person" view, viewing our mind and body (the body is irrelevant here) from our soul's perspective, not like the soul have eyes (don't know about that), but giving us a innerview of ourselves, that is why most people don't remember what happened when they were under hypnosis, the soul alone can't store memories, it needs our hard drive, our brain.

Anyway, these are just my thoughts and my theories, i could go on and on but i am already touching a lot of subjects and i don't want to have a debate like this in a topic with this name.

I just wanted to make clear that i do believe in the existence of a soul and that there must be a way to use it to our advantage and being able to do it will undoubtedly give us access to energies we never believed to exist, my body is made of bones and flesh, so i can use it to interact with matter, my soul in the other hand is made of... well... neutrinos?, dark matter?, dark energy?, ectoplasm?... don't know... but one thing is for sure, it is made of energy\radiation if it links to my body and i can't see it so if i could somehow control that energy i believe i could do a lot of stuff that i never thought possible (but not shape shifting)...

How i think some techniques work:

astral projection - disconnect our souls from our body temporarily (probably just a partial disconnection)

telekinesys - i don't see how our soul's energy can affect matter directly (don't even know what type of energy is) but it will probably be able to induce momentum on a object like it was moving all along, momentum is the product of speed and mass and it's energy, when we are flesh and bones (matter) we interact with matter, when we are energy (soul) we interact with energy. The same goes to
pyrokinesys.

Shapeshifting... i simply can't see how... shaping our soul? probably... but why would we even care about it?...

Anyway... i do believe is some phenomenons but this is based on my own ideas and trust me, i don't doubt myself less then i doubt others, it's just a theory that i want to explore.

But that is not what led me to JoS, i simply came here to establish a
relationship with Satan, wasn't looking for "paranormal" capacities, but doubting them only made me doubt about the rest and question myself if this was the true path...

Cheers

(Obs: Remember that this post is just based on my thoughts, i don't assume nothing here to be true, this is just the best explanation i could come up with regarding the existence of a soul, i am pretty sure most of you will disagree partially or even totally with a lot of stuff i wrote here)

 

[hashhashino]

wtf ricky retardo......whatever u do keep that shit to urself.....if you think satanism is running around torturing and maiming everything that moves......we don't agree...and i believe u have schitzophrenic tendencies and delusions of grandeur about a path u have no idea about and u obviously refuse to school yourself why should others spend their energy to help u with deeper truth.....i don't sacrifice my neighbors cats or babie...s to some uncognizable blood thirsty deity....i.e.jewhovuha.....why would i bother with a god filled with genocidal malignancies to trade in to another god who is equally evil and embraces stupidity...common sense is a motherfucker

 

[Botan shijo]

I believe you posted that in the wrong topic, if you didn't then you obviously haven't read anything that has be wrote so far here, and if you have then you have serious problems...

Btw...

8th rule of this group:

"8. Please BE POLITE- flaming will not be tolerated."

I understand the moderators don't have time to read anything but please, you only needed to read the first three words...

But then again, i do (at least want to...) believe this was posted on the wrong topic, if it was meant to someone who actually sacrifices babies to jehovah then i think it's too soft...

Cheers

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hashhashino" <hashhashino@... wrote:

wtf ricky retardo......whatever u do keep that shit to urself.....if you think satanism is running around torturing and maiming everything that moves......we don't agree...and i believe u have schitzophrenic tendencies and delusions of grandeur about a path u have no idea about and u obviously refuse to school yourself why should others spend their energy to help u with deeper truth.....i don't sacrifice my neighbors cats or babie...s to some uncognizable blood thirsty deity....i.e.jewhovuha.....why would i bother with a god filled with genocidal malignancies to trade in to another god who is equally evil and embraces stupidity...common sense is a motherfucker

 

[egon_88_666]

Hi Tiago (I hope you are not using your real entire name). Well I had a very unnusual experience to share.
http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/86984463/s ... to0015.jpg

The above credcard I received in the special day of Astaroth (March 22th), that was one day before I complete one year of dedictation (March 23th, 2013, that in reality still being Astaroth's day). In the day I dedicated, I was not aware that it was Ostara, hahaha.

But are you interested in the translation to portuguese I did of 'Satanic Doctrines' with Maxine's sermons, in a pdf archive? I can pass it to you by email, but I cant put it in the groups, so reply-me if you want.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tiago_filipe_cabral" <tiago_filipe_cabral@... wrote:

Hi everyone

As you know i am new around here, i was really surprised when i came across JoS and started reading about Satan, i never looked at him the way JoS made me look, not from that prespective but i came across JoS in the first place because i was trying to find a way to devote myself to Satan having Satan pictured in my head the way i was taught as a "normal" guy, you may think i am a evil person but that is not the case, trust me, on my first post i explain my motives, basically i hate the christian god (also explained on my first post).

My first post:
http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/Joyof ... sage/98663

Turns out, like i said, that Satan (according to JoS description) is nowere near what i though he was, all my life we are taught that satan is evil and then, among millions of people you find a couple dozen saying he is good and the true god, i can live with it, regardless, i came here to devote myself to him, because we can all agree on something, he hates the christian god and jesus, enough for me, took me some time to picture him the way JoS describes and sometimes i still struggle a bit.

I did my dedication nontheless, actually i did when my doubts about info on JoS were at a peak, i still did it simply because regardless of JoS being true or false i know i want to dedicate myself to him, so i did it convinced that the christian god do exist and that i would surely die for turning myself against him so i dont really care about who's right and whos wrong about Satan, in my mind i always pictured him as some kind of rebel who doesn't give a damm about what is good or bad, just what he wants, i think in some way we can all identify ourselves with that.

Anyway, the thing that is troubling me is that i am still finding a bit hard to "digest" some info on JoS and like that wasn't enough i see guys everyday talking about conversations with demons like they are talking about conversations with some friend from school or something like that, make it sound so common that you almost doubt if it's really true, until one talks to me i will always doubt and then, there i go again, struggling again, and when i am about to get over it then some guy pops up talking about shapeshifting and astral projection, or pyrokinesis (setting objects on fire with our mind), i mean, i want to take this serious, i DO want to establish some relation with the one i very PROUDLY< adress to as my father but one must wonder, am i really in the right place?
Maybe i am but truth is, i can't help but feel ridiculous sometimes and that thought is almost built-in in my subconscious when i am meditating, even if i am not thinking about it its always present.

Trust me, now this WILL sound ridiculous, i dont remember what post it was but i even said that i would like to see anything out of normal, even if it was greys attacking me and even not being prepared to fight them, if i saw just the tinniest thing that i saw as demon intervention or any kind of "unexplainable phenomenon" all my determination and beliefs would take a huge leap for the better but being constantly bombarded with stuff that sound like fairy tales (not saying it is but put yourself in my shoes for a moment) when i am still struggling on my first meditation steps is seriously driving me nuts.

I know that regardless of JoS being true or false, i haven't mastered the knowllege there to make precise conclusions, so right now the only things that keeps me going is the fact that i am looking at myself as a ignorant waiting to be enlightned, always looking for new posts, trying to hear of others experiences but there are aways guys who make this sound like it's all fake, i think i would be happy if i saw a knife flying arround trying to stab me right now.

One thing is for sure, i dont regret my dedication... for all it's worth to our father satan, at least the intention was clear.

Thanks for reading
Tiago Cabral

 

[Botan shijo]

Hi egon... i completely forgot to send you my mail the first time you asked for it, sorry, if you can send it to CryptorX@...... i only created my yahoo account for this group, the mail i gave you is the one i use daily...

That is not my entire name by the way...

Thanks a lot

 

[egon_88_666]

This email adress is not showed, reply me via private email.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tiago_filipe_cabral" <tiago_filipe_cabral@... wrote:

Hi egon... i completely forgot to send you my mail the first time you asked for it, sorry, if you can send it to CryptorX@... i only created my yahoo account for this group, the mail i gave you is the one i use daily...

That is not my entire name by the way...

Thanks a lot

 

[hashhashino]

Yep shit happens

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tiago_filipe_cabral" <tiago_filipe_cabral@... wrote:

I believe you posted that in the wrong topic, if you didn't then you obviously haven't read anything that has be wrote so far here, and if you have then you have serious problems...

Btw...

8th rule of this group:

"8. Please BE POLITE- flaming will not be tolerated."

I understand the moderators don't have time to read anything but please, you only needed to read the first three words...

But then again, i do (at least want to...) believe this was posted on the wrong topic, if it was meant to someone who actually sacrifices babies to jehovah then i think it's too soft...

Cheers

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hashhashino" <hashhashino@ wrote:

wtf ricky retardo......whatever u do keep that shit to urself.....if you think satanism is running around torturing and maiming everything that moves......we don't agree...and i believe u have schitzophrenic tendencies and delusions of grandeur about a path u have no idea about and u obviously refuse to school yourself why should others spend their energy to help u with deeper truth.....i don't sacrifice my neighbors cats or babie...s to some uncognizable blood thirsty deity....i.e.jewhovuha.....why would i bother with a god filled with genocidal malignancies to trade in to another god who is equally evil and embraces stupidity...common sense is a motherfucker

 

[l3bekk]

I'm on the same boat as Tiago, the only difference is I have yet to dedicate. =/

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "egon_88_666" <egon88@... wrote:

Hi Tiago (I hope you are not using your real entire name). Well I had a very unnusual experience to share.
http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/86984463/s ... to0015.jpg

The above credcard I received in the special day of Astaroth (March 22th), that was one day before I complete one year of dedictation (March 23th, 2013, that in reality still being Astaroth's day). In the day I dedicated, I was not aware that it was Ostara, hahaha.

But are you interested in the translation to portuguese I did of 'Satanic Doctrines' with Maxine's sermons, in a pdf archive? I can pass it to you by email, but I cant put it in the groups, so reply-me if you want.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tiago_filipe_cabral" <tiago_filipe_cabral@ wrote:

Hi everyone

As you know i am new around here, i was really surprised when i came across JoS and started reading about Satan, i never looked at him the way JoS made me look, not from that prespective but i came across JoS in the first place because i was trying to find a way to devote myself to Satan having Satan pictured in my head the way i was taught as a "normal" guy, you may think i am a evil person but that is not the case, trust me, on my first post i explain my motives, basically i hate the christian god (also explained on my first post).

My first post:
http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/Joyof ... sage/98663

Turns out, like i said, that Satan (according to JoS description) is nowere near what i though he was, all my life we are taught that satan is evil and then, among millions of people you find a couple dozen saying he is good and the true god, i can live with it, regardless, i came here to devote myself to him, because we can all agree on something, he hates the christian god and jesus, enough for me, took me some time to picture him the way JoS describes and sometimes i still struggle a bit.

I did my dedication nontheless, actually i did when my doubts about info on JoS were at a peak, i still did it simply because regardless of JoS being true or false i know i want to dedicate myself to him, so i did it convinced that the christian god do exist and that i would surely die for turning myself against him so i dont really care about who's right and whos wrong about Satan, in my mind i always pictured him as some kind of rebel who doesn't give a damm about what is good or bad, just what he wants, i think in some way we can all identify ourselves with that.

Anyway, the thing that is troubling me is that i am still finding a bit hard to "digest" some info on JoS and like that wasn't enough i see guys everyday talking about conversations with demons like they are talking about conversations with some friend from school or something like that, make it sound so common that you almost doubt if it's really true, until one talks to me i will always doubt and then, there i go again, struggling again, and when i am about to get over it then some guy pops up talking about shapeshifting and astral projection, or pyrokinesis (setting objects on fire with our mind), i mean, i want to take this serious, i DO want to establish some relation with the one i very PROUDLY< adress to as my father but one must wonder, am i really in the right place?
Maybe i am but truth is, i can't help but feel ridiculous sometimes and that thought is almost built-in in my subconscious when i am meditating, even if i am not thinking about it its always present.

Trust me, now this WILL sound ridiculous, i dont remember what post it was but i even said that i would like to see anything out of normal, even if it was greys attacking me and even not being prepared to fight them, if i saw just the tinniest thing that i saw as demon intervention or any kind of "unexplainable phenomenon" all my determination and beliefs would take a huge leap for the better but being constantly bombarded with stuff that sound like fairy tales (not saying it is but put yourself in my shoes for a moment) when i am still struggling on my first meditation steps is seriously driving me nuts.

I know that regardless of JoS being true or false, i haven't mastered the knowllege there to make precise conclusions, so right now the only things that keeps me going is the fact that i am looking at myself as a ignorant waiting to be enlightned, always looking for new posts, trying to hear of others experiences but there are aways guys who make this sound like it's all fake, i think i would be happy if i saw a knife flying arround trying to stab me right now.

One thing is for sure, i dont regret my dedication... for all it's worth to our father satan, at least the intention was clear.

Thanks for reading
Tiago Cabral

 

[misza2]

Yeah, it looks like a miss-post.

Back to topic though, I can't see why would anyone be offended with what You've written, after all, it's a disscusion and an... exploration of possibilities, let me call it.

I have been interested in a more... scientific or orginized side of the subject as well, even though I never got to any conclusions.
I was interseted in a subject of consciousness (development and evolution of it - but never really got anywhere with it) and memory.

I do appreciate Your approach, feel free to post some more

/Hail Satan and all the True Gods!
/Hail Gods of War!
/Mike