This is going nowhere.

[Kim Lordea]

For about 2 months now I have DAILY practiced to enter a trance without success.
I have done both void meditation and practised to relax my body but nothing seems to work.
I have read many advices on this matter in other posts but i decided to write one myself anyway to see if there is anything i haven't tried.

Appriciate all replies!
HAIL SATAN!

 

[kikesmasher71]

In many cases, when a person says they've tried entering a trance but with no success, they've already entered a trance but they were expecting something else. Are you sure it is not the smae thing with you? If you are in a state in which you don't pay attention to outside influences and you can concentrate fully, that means you are in a trance.

Anyway, move on with the other power meditations, and don't worry about it. You only need to be relaxed and in only a light trance to do power meditations as in a very deep trance it's hard to visualize things.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kim Lordea" <ofenki@... wrote:

For about 2 months now I have DAILY practiced to enter a trance without success.
I have done both void meditation and practised to relax my body but nothing seems to work.
I have read many advices on this matter in other posts but i decided to write one myself anyway to see if there is anything i haven't tried.

Appriciate all replies!
HAIL SATAN!

 

[Brian Gibbons]

Greetings,
What helped me is ordering HP Maxines guided meditation CD.Good Luck!!!!
HAIL SATAN!
Brian.


From: Kim Lordea <ofenki@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 6:21:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] This is going nowhere.

  For about 2 months now I have DAILY practiced to enter a trance without success.
I have done both void meditation and practised to relax my body but nothing seems to work.
I have read many advices on this matter in other posts but i decided to write one myself anyway to see if there is anything i haven't tried.

Appriciate all replies!
HAIL SATAN!

 

[Brian Gibbons]

Thanks for clearing that up Kikesmasher.You write some knowledgeable posts that clear a lot up.Thanks for your contributions man.
Hail Satan!
Brian.
From: kikesmasher71 <kikesmasher71@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 5:57:33 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: This is going nowhere.

  In many cases, when a person says they've tried entering a trance but with no success, they've already entered a trance but they were expecting something else. Are you sure it is not the smae thing with you? If you are in a state in which you don't pay attention to outside influences and you can concentrate fully, that means you are in a trance.

Anyway, move on with the other power meditations, and don't worry about it. You only need to be relaxed and in only a light trance to do power meditations as in a very deep trance it's hard to visualize things.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kim Lordea" <ofenki@... wrote:

For about 2 months now I have DAILY practiced to enter a trance without success.
I have done both void meditation and practised to relax my body but nothing seems to work.
I have read many advices on this matter in other posts but i decided to write one myself anyway to see if there is anything i haven't tried.

Appriciate all replies!
HAIL SATAN!

 

[Miles Alvisson]

Attachments :
There are different levels or depth to trance. Not everyones experience is the same. Ideas of trance were given on the JoS but aren't a complete list. The best way is to trust and just let the experiences happen or you will end up resisting trance.

kikesmasher71 <kikesmasher71@... wrote:

In many cases, when a person says they've tried entering a trance but with no success, they've already entered a trance but they were expecting something else. Are you sure it is not the smae thing with you? If you are in a state in which you don't pay attention to outside influences and you can concentrate fully, that means you are in a trance.

Anyway, move on with the other power meditations, and don't worry about it. You only need to be relaxed and in only a light trance to do power meditations as in a very deep trance it's hard to visualize things.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kim Lordea" <ofenki@... wrote:

For about 2 months now I have DAILY practiced to enter a trance without success.
I have done both void meditation and practised to relax my body but nothing seems to work.
I have read many advices on this matter in other posts but i decided to write one myself anyway to see if there is anything i haven't tried.

Appriciate all replies!
HAIL SATAN!

 

[[email protected]]

Attachments :
Try laying down 'twill help you relax have you ever felt like you were falling wile trying to sleep it should help

Note: the only time the feeling isnt good is after you run if you see stars it means you (most likely)WILL pass out

Ali
Hail satan
Hail my GD
Hail the true gods

 

[Siatris]

This sermon on trance training may help:

http://www.warriorsofenki.0fees.net/Pag ... ining.html

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kikesmasher71" <kikesmasher71@... wrote:

In many cases, when a person says they've tried entering a trance but with no success, they've already entered a trance but they were expecting something else. Are you sure it is not the smae thing with you? If you are in a state in which you don't pay attention to outside influences and you can concentrate fully, that means you are in a trance.

Anyway, move on with the other power meditations, and don't worry about it. You only need to be relaxed and in only a light trance to do power meditations as in a very deep trance it's hard to visualize things.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kim Lordea" <ofenki@ wrote:

For about 2 months now I have DAILY practiced to enter a trance without success.
I have done both void meditation and practised to relax my body but nothing seems to work.
I have read many advices on this matter in other posts but i decided to write one myself anyway to see if there is anything i haven't tried.

Appriciate all replies!
HAIL SATAN!

 

[Kim Lordea]

Thanks for the advice, I will continue to practicetrance but also do other power meditations. Do you happend to have any equally good advice on how to approach energy meditation?
Thanks again!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kikesmasher71" <kikesmasher71@... wrote:

In many cases, when a person says they've tried entering a trance but with no success, they've already entered a trance but they were expecting something else. Are you sure it is not the smae thing with you? If you are in a state in which you don't pay attention to outside influences and you can concentrate fully, that means you are in a trance.

Anyway, move on with the other power meditations, and don't worry about it. You only need to be relaxed and in only a light trance to do power meditations as in a very deep trance it's hard to visualize things.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kim Lordea" <ofenki@ wrote:

For about 2 months now I have DAILY practiced to enter a trance without success.
I have done both void meditation and practised to relax my body but nothing seems to work.
I have read many advices on this matter in other posts but i decided to write one myself anyway to see if there is anything i haven't tried.

Appriciate all replies!
HAIL SATAN!

 

[Kim Lordea]

I wish i could get my hands on that meditation cd, but thats not possible in my current situation.

HAIL SATAN!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

Greetings,
What helped me is ordering HP Maxines guided meditation CD.Good Luck!!!!
HAIL SATAN!
Brian.





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From: Kim Lordea <ofenki@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 6:21:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] This is going nowhere.


For about 2 months now I have DAILY practiced to enter a trance without success.

I have done both void meditation and practised to relax my body but nothing
seems to work.

I have read many advices on this matter in other posts but i decided to write
one myself anyway to see if there is anything i haven't tried.

Appriciate all replies!
HAIL SATAN!

 

[[email protected]]

Have you tried "setting the mood"? For instance, only have the light of a candle (blue red black-any combo or singly) soft meditation music, incense (lavender is supposed to be good for relaxation) if possible, essential oil-again, lavender, a few drops on a cotton ball(or even tissue) in the nearest vicinity to your nose as to get the best result-possibly even rubbing some on your chest- like Vicks-but 1st make sure your skin isn't ilergick. And, of course, tell yourself that this WILL work this time-without ANY doubts! Good luck. J-SIN
HAIL LORD SATAN!!!Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "Kim Lordea" <ofenki@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 00:21:35 -0000To: <[email protected]ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: [JoyofSatan666] This is going nowhere.
  For about 2 months now I have DAILY practiced to enter a trance without success.
I have done both void meditation and practised to relax my body but nothing seems to work.
I have read many advices on this matter in other posts but i decided to write one myself anyway to see if there is anything i haven't tried.

Appriciate all replies!
HAIL SATAN!

 

[chasekinkade]

Just a side note: The breath is very important in any kind of meditation,practice proper breathing techniques and this may help.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kikesmasher71" <kikesmasher71@... wrote:

In many cases, when a person says they've tried entering a trance but with no success, they've already entered a trance but they were expecting something else. Are you sure it is not the smae thing with you? If you are in a state in which you don't pay attention to outside influences and you can concentrate fully, that means you are in a trance.

Anyway, move on with the other power meditations, and don't worry about it. You only need to be relaxed and in only a light trance to do power meditations as in a very deep trance it's hard to visualize things.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kim Lordea" <ofenki@ wrote:

For about 2 months now I have DAILY practiced to enter a trance without success.
I have done both void meditation and practised to relax my body but nothing seems to work.
I have read many advices on this matter in other posts but i decided to write one myself anyway to see if there is anything i haven't tried.

Appriciate all replies!
HAIL SATAN!

 

[kikesmasher71]

I'll tell you from my experience, to help you feel the energy you need to concentrate on your body, not the breath. And at the same time visualizing the energy you're breathing. In a small period of time of practicing this meditation, the visualization will come automatically when you're breathing energy and you don't need to do it. And after some more time, just visualizing your body being full of white-gold light (or any other color) will make you breathe energy and feel it, you won't need to synchronize it with normal breaths.

There're times I'm able to feel the energy more easily than others, just experiment with this. If you feel its hard to feel the energy you're breathing at one particular time, try it later. White-gold energy feels to me hot, but not hot in the same way as a normal fire. It's warm like sunlight.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kim Lordea" <ofenki@... wrote:

Thanks for the advice, I will continue to practicetrance but also do other power meditations. Do you happend to have any equally good advice on how to approach energy meditation?
Thanks again!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kikesmasher71" <kikesmasher71@ wrote:

In many cases, when a person says they've tried entering a trance but with no success, they've already entered a trance but they were expecting something else. Are you sure it is not the smae thing with you? If you are in a state in which you don't pay attention to outside influences and you can concentrate fully, that means you are in a trance.

Anyway, move on with the other power meditations, and don't worry about it. You only need to be relaxed and in only a light trance to do power meditations as in a very deep trance it's hard to visualize things.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kim Lordea" <ofenki@ wrote:

For about 2 months now I have DAILY practiced to enter a trance without success.
I have done both void meditation and practised to relax my body but nothing seems to work.
I have read many advices on this matter in other posts but i decided to write one myself anyway to see if there is anything i haven't tried.

Appriciate all replies!
HAIL SATAN!

 

[kikesmasher71]

I forgot one important point, just visualize white-gold energy filling your body from the inside and becoming more and more brilliant, don't bother visualizing it coming it from an outside source as it makes you distracted. Even when breathing energy from the sun or moon it is still easier to visualize it coming from the inside and just noting mentally that it comes from the sun/moon.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kikesmasher71" <kikesmasher71@... wrote:

I'll tell you from my experience, to help you feel the energy you need to concentrate on your body, not the breath. And at the same time visualizing the energy you're breathing. In a small period of time of practicing this meditation, the visualization will come automatically when you're breathing energy and you don't need to do it. And after some more time, just visualizing your body being full of white-gold light (or any other color) will make you breathe energy and feel it, you won't need to synchronize it with normal breaths.

There're times I'm able to feel the energy more easily than others, just experiment with this. If you feel its hard to feel the energy you're breathing at one particular time, try it later. White-gold energy feels to me hot, but not hot in the same way as a normal fire. It's warm like sunlight.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kim Lordea" <ofenki@ wrote:

Thanks for the advice, I will continue to practicetrance but also do other power meditations. Do you happend to have any equally good advice on how to approach energy meditation?
Thanks again!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kikesmasher71" <kikesmasher71@ wrote:

In many cases, when a person says they've tried entering a trance but with no success, they've already entered a trance but they were expecting something else. Are you sure it is not the smae thing with you? If you are in a state in which you don't pay attention to outside influences and you can concentrate fully, that means you are in a trance.

Anyway, move on with the other power meditations, and don't worry about it. You only need to be relaxed and in only a light trance to do power meditations as in a very deep trance it's hard to visualize things.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kim Lordea" <ofenki@ wrote:

For about 2 months now I have DAILY practiced to enter a trance without success.
I have done both void meditation and practised to relax my body but nothing seems to work.
I have read many advices on this matter in other posts but i decided to write one myself anyway to see if there is anything i haven't tried.

Appriciate all replies!
HAIL SATAN!

 

[joshaun muldrow]

why dont u try eating a spoon of horseraddish before u meditate. Spirits told a guy i know of that it opens up the pineal gland. So does wasabi. U can get it at walmart but they keep it hidden. That stuff goes straight to the brain

On Sun Nov 28th, 2010 2:54 PM EST Kim Lordea wrote:

I wish i could get my hands on that meditation cd, but thats not possible in my current situation.

HAIL SATAN!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

Greetings,
What helped me is ordering HP Maxines guided meditation CD.Good Luck!!!!
HAIL SATAN!
Brian.





________________________________
From: Kim Lordea <ofenki@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 6:21:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] This is going nowhere.


For about 2 months now I have DAILY practiced to enter a trance without success.

I have done both void meditation and practised to relax my body but nothing
seems to work.

I have read many advices on this matter in other posts but i decided to write
one myself anyway to see if there is anything i haven't tried.

Appriciate all replies!
HAIL SATAN!

 

[Kim Lordea]

When i visualize the energy, can i visualize my body in third person? I have a bit of a problem visualizing it in first person.
Thanks soo much again! You are really being a big help!
And thank father Satan for his gifts to the gentiles!
I'm looking forward to be a help in spiritual warfare.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kikesmasher71" <kikesmasher71@... wrote:

I forgot one important point, just visualize white-gold energy filling your body from the inside and becoming more and more brilliant, don't bother visualizing it coming it from an outside source as it makes you distracted. Even when breathing energy from the sun or moon it is still easier to visualize it coming from the inside and just noting mentally that it comes from the sun/moon.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kikesmasher71" <kikesmasher71@ wrote:

I'll tell you from my experience, to help you feel the energy you need to concentrate on your body, not the breath. And at the same time visualizing the energy you're breathing. In a small period of time of practicing this meditation, the visualization will come automatically when you're breathing energy and you don't need to do it. And after some more time, just visualizing your body being full of white-gold light (or any other color) will make you breathe energy and feel it, you won't need to synchronize it with normal breaths.

There're times I'm able to feel the energy more easily than others, just experiment with this. If you feel its hard to feel the energy you're breathing at one particular time, try it later. White-gold energy feels to me hot, but not hot in the same way as a normal fire. It's warm like sunlight.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kim Lordea" <ofenki@ wrote:

Thanks for the advice, I will continue to practicetrance but also do other power meditations. Do you happend to have any equally good advice on how to approach energy meditation?
Thanks again!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kikesmasher71" <kikesmasher71@ wrote:

In many cases, when a person says they've tried entering a trance but with no success, they've already entered a trance but they were expecting something else. Are you sure it is not the smae thing with you? If you are in a state in which you don't pay attention to outside influences and you can concentrate fully, that means you are in a trance.

Anyway, move on with the other power meditations, and don't worry about it. You only need to be relaxed and in only a light trance to do power meditations as in a very deep trance it's hard to visualize things.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kim Lordea" <ofenki@ wrote:

For about 2 months now I have DAILY practiced to enter a trance without success.
I have done both void meditation and practised to relax my body but nothing seems to work.
I have read many advices on this matter in other posts but i decided to write one myself anyway to see if there is anything i haven't tried.

Appriciate all replies!
HAIL SATAN!

 

[A A]

Of course.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kim Lordea" <ofenki@... wrote:

When i visualize the energy, can i visualize my body in third person? I have a bit of a problem visualizing it in first person.
Thanks soo much again! You are really being a big help!
And thank father Satan for his gifts to the gentiles!
I'm looking forward to be a help in spiritual warfare.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kikesmasher71" <kikesmasher71@ wrote:

I forgot one important point, just visualize white-gold energy filling your body from the inside and becoming more and more brilliant, don't bother visualizing it coming it from an outside source as it makes you distracted. Even when breathing energy from the sun or moon it is still easier to visualize it coming from the inside and just noting mentally that it comes from the sun/moon.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kikesmasher71" <kikesmasher71@ wrote:

I'll tell you from my experience, to help you feel the energy you need to concentrate on your body, not the breath. And at the same time visualizing the energy you're breathing. In a small period of time of practicing this meditation, the visualization will come automatically when you're breathing energy and you don't need to do it. And after some more time, just visualizing your body being full of white-gold light (or any other color) will make you breathe energy and feel it, you won't need to synchronize it with normal breaths.

There're times I'm able to feel the energy more easily than others, just experiment with this. If you feel its hard to feel the energy you're breathing at one particular time, try it later. White-gold energy feels to me hot, but not hot in the same way as a normal fire. It's warm like sunlight.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kim Lordea" <ofenki@ wrote:

Thanks for the advice, I will continue to practicetrance but also do other power meditations. Do you happend to have any equally good advice on how to approach energy meditation?
Thanks again!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kikesmasher71" <kikesmasher71@ wrote:

In many cases, when a person says they've tried entering a trance but with no success, they've already entered a trance but they were expecting something else. Are you sure it is not the smae thing with you? If you are in a state in which you don't pay attention to outside influences and you can concentrate fully, that means you are in a trance.

Anyway, move on with the other power meditations, and don't worry about it. You only need to be relaxed and in only a light trance to do power meditations as in a very deep trance it's hard to visualize things.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kim Lordea" <ofenki@ wrote:

For about 2 months now I have DAILY practiced to enter a trance without success.
I have done both void meditation and practised to relax my body but nothing seems to work.
I have read many advices on this matter in other posts but i decided to write one myself anyway to see if there is anything i haven't tried.

Appriciate all replies!
HAIL SATAN!