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It's boring!

Who is the greatest race - the Anglo Saxon!

OK - that's over with - what's new?

Oh - I know! Who will live forever?

Not you 'white boy' - unless you learn to stick together and start getting 'smart'!

Stop letting the joo boy 'conning' you and leading you around by the nose! Is that you? Goyim!

Oh...I forgot....you're the master of the world...what world...you gave it away!

Start using your 'balls'!

Start reawakening and realize who you really are - you are of an eneffable God of 'light' and love! A God that has never taken 'second' best - the only God of truth - 'The Light Giver'!

The One who frees all who believe in Him!

HAIL THE 'LIGHT GIVER'!
HAIL SATAN!
 
Oh look.. you're back...

On Friday, January 27, 2017 2:01 PM, "sorcerersmagick@... [666BlackSun]" <[email protected] wrote:


  It's boring!

Who is the greatest race - the Anglo Saxon!

OK - that's over with - what's new?

Oh - I know! Who will live forever?

Not you 'white boy' - unless you learn to stick together and start getting 'smart'!

Stop letting the joo boy 'conning' you and leading you around by the nose! Is that you? Goyim!

Oh...I forgot....you're the master of the world...what world...you gave it away!

Start using your 'balls'!

Start reawakening and realize who you really are - you are of an eneffable God of 'light' and love! A God that has never taken 'second' best - the only God of truth - 'The Light Giver'!

The One who frees all who believe in Him!

HAIL THE 'LIGHT GIVER'!
HAIL SATAN!


 
LOL, sounds like someone's a little salted about being banned! HAIL SATAN!!!
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 27, 2017, at 16:15, ljossmyrkr@... [666BlackSun] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:
  Oh look.. you're back...

On Friday, January 27, 2017 2:01 PM, "sorcerersmagick@... [666BlackSun]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:


  It's boring!

Who is the greatest race - the Anglo Saxon!

OK - that's over with - what's new?

Oh - I know! Who will live forever?

Not you 'white boy' - unless you learn to stick together and start getting 'smart'!

Stop letting the joo boy 'conning' you and leading you around by the nose! Is that you? Goyim!

Oh...I forgot....you're the master of the world...what world...you gave it away!

Start using your 'balls'!

Start reawakening and realize who you really are - you are of an eneffable God of 'light' and love! A God that has never taken 'second' best - the only God of truth - 'The Light Giver'!

The One who frees all who believe in Him!

HAIL THE 'LIGHT GIVER'!
HAIL SATAN!
 
I.... someone explain to me what the hell I just read. Please. Aldric maybe... anyone please. X'D

On Friday, January 27, 2017 3:01 PM, "sorcerersmagick@... [666BlackSun]" <[email protected] wrote:


  It's boring!

Who is the greatest race - the Anglo Saxon!

OK - that's over with - what's new?

Oh - I know! Who will live forever?

Not you 'white boy' - unless you learn to stick together and start getting 'smart'!

Stop letting the joo boy 'conning' you and leading you around by the nose! Is that you? Goyim!

Oh...I forgot....you're the master of the world...what world...you gave it away!

Start using your 'balls'!

Start reawakening and realize who you really are - you are of an eneffable God of 'light' and love! A God that has never taken 'second' best - the only God of truth - 'The Light Giver'!

The One who frees all who believe in Him!

HAIL THE 'LIGHT GIVER'!
HAIL SATAN!


 
I saw this post and there is something about it...the tenor, the feel...that raises the hairs on the back of my neck. Even the subject title: On race yeah, lets move on! This right there gave me pause. Lets move on? This is over with? On the surface this message feels as though it is designed to come across as some kind of positive affirmation that we as a race need to work together and yet...when I sense between the lines for the underlying message what I feel you are saying is: How boring you Goyim are, going on about your 'supposed' superiority as a race, I call you what I think you are: Goyim. 'white boy' What you need to do to beat us is to work together but...that won't happen! This is actually a message of mocking ridicule disguised as something that newbies might take as positive affirmation when it is the opposite, a curse disguised and discounting us as the Master Race. Which we actually ARE and this is not in any way 'boring' or 'over'.
You say the ineffable God of 'light and love'. This is a phrase that the enemy uses, especially in the Wiccan and New Age Communities... Light and LOVE. What about HATE? Light and love is watered down pablum that is designed to keep us in a slave mentality. We need our HATE. Hate is good. Hate is necessary. Without that hate and the urge to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, about the injustices, there can be no advancement, no freedom, no truth, only perpetual enslavement. Your message is actually mocking: “You stupid Goy! Yeah, just keep on! How BORING! World? What world? You gave it away!”
These are the words of the enemy. I'm not fooled and you won't fool anyone else here. Move on.
Hail Satan!
 
James he's basically saying that we should drop the "on race" topic. He can be difficult to understand at times, but pay him no mind
On Jan 27, 2017, at 19:52, james marshall jamesmarshall237@... [666BlackSun] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:
  I.... someone explain to me what the hell I just read. Please. Aldric maybe... anyone please. X'D

On Friday, January 27, 2017 3:01 PM, "sorcerersmagick@... [666BlackSun]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:


  It's boring!

Who is the greatest race - the Anglo Saxon!

OK - that's over with - what's new?

Oh - I know! Who will live forever?

Not you 'white boy' - unless you learn to stick together and start getting 'smart'!

Stop letting the joo boy 'conning' you and leading you around by the nose! Is that you? Goyim!

Oh...I forgot....you're the master of the world...what world...you gave it away!

Start using your 'balls'!

Start reawakening and realize who you really are - you are of an eneffable God of 'light' and love! A God that has never taken 'second' best - the only God of truth - 'The Light Giver'!

The One who frees all who believe in Him!

HAIL THE 'LIGHT GIVER'!
HAIL SATAN!
 
These kikes or kike-loving assholes keep coming back like fleas on a dog, so I use my job to get rid of them each and every time their poisonous weed grows back.

As a third sex male, I have witnessed how the Jewish people have trained the third sex men and women who they/the Jews have lured into their "LGBT community" fold like sheep, turn into police dogs who are trained to sniff for drugs.  In this case, the "drug" is hate against the Jews and/or their colored slaves.  These former third sex people who have been turned into malleable LGBT slaves of the Jews are only allowed to hate one thing...  The WHITE Race and White Civilization.

Because of this, the LGBT sheep keep Sermon on the Mount Christianity flourishing, while opponents of the third sex keep traditional Evangelical Christianity flourishing.  The aspects of Christianity that are inclusive and even encouraging of homosexuality are almost always the more liberal, leftist aspects of Christianity, while sects like Christian Identity and Pentecostalism teach that homosexuality is wrong.  One aspect of Christianity isn't any better or worse than the other.  It all has to be uprooted and thoroughly overcome.

Satanists who believe that homosexuality is "wrong" are allied with their Christian fundamentalist cousins, while the LGBT White liberals wear signs on their backs that say "Kick me, I'm White."  This chaos is why Satan has made me a High Priest for our White Racial Religion, to restore order, to clean this shit up.

One thing I do know is that both Satan and the Anti-Christ approve of the third sex, provided that they are willing to come down from the Jewish "anesthesia buzz" of Liberalism.  Homosexuality or heterosexuality are not "lifestyle choices."  It is an eye color or which hand a person naturally uses.  This isn't me being politically correct.  This is factual, scientific, and based on the Laws of Satan and Nature herself.  There are some people who choose their sexualities, but there are plenty of others who don't.

Satan once told me, face-to-face:  "WE [WHITE ARYANS] ARE THE MASTER RACE, BUT WE DO NOT NEED SLAVES!!"  That statement made a very profound impact on my life and my career as a High Priest of Satan and Adolf Hitler.  Sorry for going off topic with the information about homosexuality.  I watched two politically correct DVDs about homosexuality over the past couple nights, and I am still heated up over the stupidity.  Even a High Priest needs to vent to his fellow family of White Satanists from time to time.

Zola is right.  The Jews only reserve access to hatred in such a way that only the Jews and the mud races can tap into it in order to destroy Whitey.  They know that when we successfully tap into this power and don't spend it on distractions or kill each other with it, that we can move mountains with it. 

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson

http://www.joyofsatan.com

http://gbltthulesociety666.angelfire.com/about/
 
I want to learn all I can about the LGBT. I know very little. My experience is that I was raised Xtian and they taught how bad it is. I know this is wrong now, but growing up I didnt.

Their teaching always seemed to be confirmed to me because LGBT people were always rude and hostile to me for no reason! This gave their jew teachings validity in the minds of many.

To be honest I've never met a normal 3rd sex person. They are hostile like above, or they decide to massacre their own bodies, and make it into swiss cheese or a graffiti wall. Their dress and makeup and short hair and everything  accentuates their worst features and hides their best features. They are usually mental unstable. They act like an agry old man.

This outward inverting of good and bad I assume takes place at the soul level as well. They are literally rotting away. I think they have been especially targeted by marxism to destroy them and make them do these terrible things.

Actually I had a friend growing up that was 3rd sex. She was the only relatively normal one. I'd seriously like to meet like a beautiful long hair aryan woman that's pretty and well dressed but is third sex. Then I'd befriend her and learn about what a normal person is like as 3rd sex. Or meet a gentile 3rd sex businessperson. I want to see an uncorrupted 3rd sex and find out how they are.

The thing that kills me is like I see here. The girls here start taking example from their friends and they pick up bad habits their friends have. Soon I will have the option to only date girls that are like an angry lumberjack with hair as short as mine.

Help me to understand where you come from.  :)
 
This is why my first, second and last priority at the moment in terms of spiritual development is my skills with black magick. I am very pleased with the progress I have made, I have successfully brought about events using magick and have successfully carried out curses in the past but they took time. I now have a very clear aim in mind of the power I intend to have a and well thought out program of how to reach it and once I am there, I will go about destroying the enemies of our people one by one, even if I have to do it alone. We and the Gods will not allow the Jews a moments rest, we will come down so hard on them for what they have done. Israel will be reduced to debris.

Physical Yoga, Qiqong, Chakra vibrating, void meditation, visualization, working with the elements, introspection, empowering your aura, affirmations for the subconscious. There is always SOMETHING to be doing at every moment! Even at work you can void mediate by placing all your awareness on the moment. Push yourself as hard as you can everyday.  Keep your homes and your lives well organized and always stay 100% on top of worldly commitments and chores so you have enough time for meditation and work on empowering yourself. It takes effort and willpower but it becomes easier the more you stick to it.

HAIL ENKI!
HAIL THE GODS!
HAIL HITLER!
HAIL OUR PEOPLE!
 
Ljoss- He sounds high to me. Like really super high on LSD or maybe crack. It has that repetition that sounds like they are trying to be smart but has no real substance. It.. made me feel like Zola to be honest. Every post makes me feel weird and in the bad kinda way.  

On Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:46 AM, "Ljóss Myrkr ljossmyrkr@... [666BlackSun]" <[email protected] wrote:


  James he's basically saying that we should drop the "on race" topic. He can be difficult to understand at times, but pay him no mind
On Jan 27, 2017, at 19:52, james marshall jamesmarshall237@... [666BlackSun] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

  I.... someone explain to me what the hell I just read. Please. Aldric maybe... anyone please. X'D

On Friday, January 27, 2017 3:01 PM, "sorcerersmagick@... [666BlackSun]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:


  It's boring!

Who is the greatest race - the Anglo Saxon!

OK - that's over with - what's new?

Oh - I know! Who will live forever?

Not you 'white boy' - unless you learn to stick together and start getting 'smart'!

Stop letting the joo boy 'conning' you and leading you around by the nose! Is that you? Goyim!

Oh...I forgot....you're the master of the world...what world...you gave it away!

Start using your 'balls'!

Start reawakening and realize who you really are - you are of an eneffable God of 'light' and love! A God that has never taken 'second' best - the only God of truth - 'The Light Giver'!

The One who frees all who believe in Him!

HAIL THE 'LIGHT GIVER'!
HAIL SATAN!

 
I spent 15 years in the LGBT community as a high profile entertainer and I can tell you from personal experience, I never met any community of people more wonderful, creative, artistic, advanced, spiritual, open, loving and just plain awesome! They took me to their bosom and loved me. And I loved them too. There is something very, VERY special about third sex people. They have an extra something. I can't put this into words, I can't explain it, its just something I experienced. They are amazing people with great gifts to offer to the rest of the Gentile Community. They may have been rude and hostile because back in the day, they were beaten up on sight and hated just for existing and the clubs where we could go and be ourselves was all underground and apart from a straight world who condemned. I was VERY rude and hostile back in the day. For good reason. I was stopped in the streets all the time and asked: Are you a man, or a woman? 
I remember one night walking home with my roommate and we witnessed a couple of drag queens that I knew being assaulted by a couple of redneck men. One brandishing a baseball bat and the other a crowbar. So I got in there, got in between them, into the lead aggressors face and confronted him nose to nose. Told him off. I made him and the other man back down and fuck off. It made me so very angry! People should be allowed to be what they are. He had no right (as I explained to him). It is as HP JC says...this is not a 'lifestyle choice'. People are what they are, and they are beautiful, just as they are. There is absolutely nothing wrong or unnatural about third sex people; the jew made them isolated and cut off from the rest of the community of Gentile Humanity and then exploited it, turning their right to exist into some kind of political agenda. Divide and conquer. But we were once all just part of a Gentile Community. And so we must be again.
I remember one night, it is still there in my head though it happened so many years ago, it was in another lifetime...I went to the club and there were a bunch of people there, dancing all in black, crying. I asked what this was about. They told me that this young man, his family were super Xian and they told Him he was a sinner and was going to Hell for being a faggot, so he started the car in the garage and asphyxiated himself on carbon monoxide. Because he was ashamed of being what he was, and ashamed he disappointed his family. This was a lovely young man who used to be a fan of the shows, who had all kinds of potential; who knows what kind of beauty and wonderful things he could have brought into the world? But it was cut short because of the LIES that the Jew creates and pushes on Humanity! I will never forget the sadness of that night as we all danced to remember him. He wasn't even out of his teens.
When all three sexes can come together, men, women and the third sex, we will be absolutely unstoppable. The Jew is terrified of that day.
HS! 

 
I also think third sex masturbation might be different than heterosexual masturbation, in that heterosexuals feel no pleasure for the sole act of touching themselves and have to use their imagination or watch erotic material in order to feel pleasure and reach an orgasm, wherein third sex individuals, for being of a gender they feel attracted to, are able to feel pleasure just for the sole act of touching their genitals and have no need for erotic material or "struggling" with their imagination in order to feel pleasure. And this is probably another aspect that makes third sex individuals much happier than the average heterosexual.
 
I'm not a third sex person, but some time ago I thought to myself how third sex people are usually so much happier and have such a higher energy and self esteem than heterosexuals.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought to myself one of the reasons for this is because they themselves are of the very same gender they feel attracted to. As if they could, hmm, feel attracted to themselves, and consequently even love themselves.

Or at least being able to look in the mirror and actually recognizing that they are an attractive person, honestly finding themselves attractive or if they don't, working on this and becoming a more attractive person, instead of blindly seeing them as "attractive" like many gentiles do when they often aren't (this is not to say that this is more important than anything else)

In a nutshell, my point is, due to their being of the same gender (or of one of the genders) they feel attracted to, there is a much stronger sense of self love, self esteem and knowing yourself deep inside, than in most heterosexuals. And therefore, a much higher positive energy.

Also, I think there is probably much more sexual pleasure, both in masturbation, for the obvious reason that the individual is of the same gender they feel attracted to, and in sexual intercourse because they are having sex with a person who has the same body. They have that same body structure, know how it works and feel more comfortable with that than one would in a heterosexual intercourse.

This is what I think about it, but as a heterosexual male, I am not sure. Any thoughts?
 
Feeling sexual pleasure when stimulating erogenous areas is a biological response that usually occurs in anyone, heterosexual or note. Furthermore, being attract to the same gender you are doesn't mean being attracted to yourself. That is something called being "autosexual".
My opinion on what you said about appearance and looking into the mirror is that that has more to do with awareness than sexual orientation. I think that it comes more on the sense of beauty. For example, I being a third sex can still evaluate the beauty of women, despite not being attracted to them. This is my opinion, take it for what it is. It's not absolute.
This 'third sex' tag is still somewhat alien to me. I still regard myself as male, not woman not third sex.

Il Domenica 29 Gennaio 2017 15:45, "dypet.rodent@... [666BlackSun]" <[email protected] ha scritto:


  I'm not a third sex person, but some time ago I thought to myself how third sex people are usually so much happier and have such a higher energy and self esteem than heterosexuals.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought to myself one of the reasons for this is because they themselves are of the very same gender they feel attracted to. As if they could, hmm, feel attracted to themselves, and consequently even love themselves.

Or at least being able to look in the mirror and actually recognizing that they are an attractive person, honestly finding themselves attractive or if they don't, working on this and becoming a more attractive person, instead of blindly seeing them as "attractive" like many gentiles do when they often aren't (this is not to say that this is more important than anything else)

In a nutshell, my point is, due to their being of the same gender (or of one of the genders) they feel attracted to, there is a much stronger sense of self love, self esteem and knowing yourself deep inside, than in most heterosexuals. And therefore, a much higher positive energy.

Also, I think there is probably much more sexual pleasure, both in masturbation, for the obvious reason that the individual is of the same gender they feel attracted to, and in sexual intercourse because they are having sex with a person who has the same body. They have that same body structure, know how it works and feel more comfortable with that than one would in a heterosexual intercourse.

This is what I think about it, but as a heterosexual male, I am not sure. Any thoughts?



 
It sounds like you may just have some sexual hang ups, personally.
On Jan 29, 2017, at 06:31, dypet.rodent@... [666BlackSun] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:
  I'm not a third sex person, but some time ago I thought to myself how third sex people are usually so much happier and have such a higher energy and self esteem than heterosexuals.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought to myself one of the reasons for this is because they themselves are of the very same gender they feel attracted to. As if they could, hmm, feel attracted to themselves, and consequently even love themselves.

Or at least being able to look in the mirror and actually recognizing that they are an attractive person, honestly finding themselves attractive or if they don't, working on this and becoming a more attractive person, instead of blindly seeing them as "attractive" like many gentiles do when they often aren't (this is not to say that this is more important than anything else)

In a nutshell, my point is, due to their being of the same gender (or of one of the genders) they feel attracted to, there is a much stronger sense of self love, self esteem and knowing yourself deep inside, than in most heterosexuals. And therefore, a much higher positive energy.

Also, I think there is probably much more sexual pleasure, both in masturbation, for the obvious reason that the individual is of the same gender they feel attracted to, and in sexual intercourse because they are having sex with a person who has the same body. They have that same body structure, know how it works and feel more comfortable with that than one would in a heterosexual intercourse.

This is what I think about it, but as a heterosexual male, I am not sure. Any thoughts?
 
I ask this respectfully. What is the deal with the people where I can't tell if they are a man or woman? Are they in the process of going from one gender to another? Is their goal to look totally like one gender? What about the people that are one gender and don't plan to change it but they still look like they are in the middle and I can't tell. What do i adress them with? Sir Maam or just shout hey?

As for being hostile hopefully we have turned the page. I don't know why they sometimes are still rude to me even today. They should be able to read I don't give a shit and am not there to harm them. Many people will NOT tolerate this. I have notice 3rd sex cashiers for example acting this way when their job is customer service not social justice. I Will have to be the one that says "hello and thankyou".

Zola that is very brave of you!! That's scary. I remember one guy I went to school with. Very talented in cello music art etc. Very good guy. He was often picked on though and it always saddened me and I never understood bullies. One Xmas he came home from college. His parents went to work and he dropped a toaster in his bathtub. He was born third sex and struggling to fully become male. He couldn't take anymore bullying. I see his parents around town and they have NEVER been the same. You see pain in there eyes years later. :(

Dypetro that's good info. I think that's a sign of advancement and higher plane of existence. Maybe all people hetero or lgbt can learn to take pleasure in the act itself. I want to achieve this and it will improve life. I want to take pleasure in many everyday things not only sex, but even just driving to work etc. How can I reach this?
 
Hmm Not sure to be honest. I always put myself up against my ideal guy. To which I always lost too ^_^;, but I will say that I have always been more high energy and more friendly then most people I know. I care about others happiness more then the regular person as well, but whether that is simply my personality, the fact I'm Aryan, or 3rd sex is utterly beyond me. Maybe even a mix. You may be on to something though because even when I feel down I have looked in the mirror at my face and simply smiled at the handsome guy looking back at me thinking he was sexy.

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 8:45 AM, "dypet.rodent@... [666BlackSun]" <[email protected] wrote:


  I'm not a third sex person, but some time ago I thought to myself how third sex people are usually so much happier and have such a higher energy and self esteem than heterosexuals.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought to myself one of the reasons for this is because they themselves are of the very same gender they feel attracted to. As if they could, hmm, feel attracted to themselves, and consequently even love themselves.

Or at least being able to look in the mirror and actually recognizing that they are an attractive person, honestly finding themselves attractive or if they don't, working on this and becoming a more attractive person, instead of blindly seeing them as "attractive" like many gentiles do when they often aren't (this is not to say that this is more important than anything else)

In a nutshell, my point is, due to their being of the same gender (or of one of the genders) they feel attracted to, there is a much stronger sense of self love, self esteem and knowing yourself deep inside, than in most heterosexuals. And therefore, a much higher positive energy.

Also, I think there is probably much more sexual pleasure, both in masturbation, for the obvious reason that the individual is of the same gender they feel attracted to, and in sexual intercourse because they are having sex with a person who has the same body. They have that same body structure, know how it works and feel more comfortable with that than one would in a heterosexual intercourse.

This is what I think about it, but as a heterosexual male, I am not sure. Any thoughts?



 
Um, you are very incorrect dypet. I'm heterosexual, but I can have pleasure by touching myself, without using my imagination or erotic images. I'm really not certain what gave you the impression that heterosexuals can't do that.. It's biology. 
On Jan 29, 2017, at 06:45, dypet.rodent@... [666BlackSun] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:
  I also think third sex masturbation might be different than heterosexual masturbation, in that heterosexuals feel no pleasure for the sole act of touching themselves and have to use their imagination or watch erotic material in order to feel pleasure and reach an orgasm, wherein third sex individuals, for being of a gender they feel attracted to, are able to feel pleasure just for the sole act of touching their genitals and have no need for erotic material or "struggling" with their imagination in order to feel pleasure. And this is probably another aspect that makes third sex individuals much happier than the average heterosexual.
 
I will sit down and read messages here more thoroughly later on today or tonight.  But Hailodin666, in regards to the third sex who mistreat you in a "reverse discrimination" sort of way, the Jewish Marxists work to brainwash the third sex into blaming all heterosexuals for the Christian and Muslim persecution they have been put through.

The heavily Jewish-produced Showtime television show, "Queer As Folk," has the "gay icon" Brian Kinney, played by Gale Harold, state that "There are only two kinds of straight people:  the ones who hate you to your face, and the ones who hate you behind your back."

This type of Jewish brainwashing gives many of the third sex in the Jewish-created LGBT fold of Marxian slaves a big chip on their shoulder and the license to just assume that all heterosexuals are Christian fundamentalists who want homosexuals exterminated, thus convincing them that White heterosexual males are "the enemy" when nothing could be further from the truth.  This type of Jewish brainwashing is only one reason that you have probably been treated this way.  Even the LGBTs who are not exposed to this brainwashing are still vulnerable to it on the astral plane because these teachings, like Christianity and Islam, have taken on a life of their own.

There are third sex people who are so ashamed of the out-of-the-closet LGBT fold that they hide in their closets because they don't want to be associated with the rainbow flag-waving degenerates who feel the need to make a RACIAL IDENTITY out of their private lives.  This is where the Third Sex Thule Society 666 comes in to play.  It creates a bridge where third sex, nor heterosexuals need to feel shame or live in closets, but don't need to fall for Jewish-invented stereotypes or the Marxian indoctrination.  Satanic Nazism, the White Racial Religion, is our only hope.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson

http://www.joyosatan.com

The Third Sex Thule Society 666  
 
Thanks for the opinions so far guys.

Ljóss, what gave me this impression is the matter of...feeling attracted to the specific genital organ you're touching.
I am a heterosexual male, but I don't feel anything just by touching myself and not at least using my imagination.

My point is, I don't feel attracted to the male genital organ, so when I touch myself and use my imagination, I might be getting pleasure from that, but it's not solely from having my penis in my hand because I don't feel attracted to that organ. There might be the sensibility from being touched on your genitals, but at least for me this is not enough for getting pleasure. But again, we're all individuals.

And as for what you said about hangups, I honestly do have some sexual frustration currently, but I don't think this necessarily influences my opinion on that. But thanks for sharing yours too.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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