I'm new and have some things I want to discuss.

[willybilly30]

I am new too this group although I have joined a few times and looked it over.

I just got threw reading some bulletins on myspace by one of your members. I'd rather not give the name cause sometimes people get mad if you talk about them behind their back even if it's good things.

Some things stuck out in the bulletins that made me think.

For one I have always wondered if Aliens created humans and When I was little I drew a reptilian and asked if they exist. Of course I was told they most likely did not by someone who'd have no evidence either way. Can you just say something dosen't exist when you don't got proof it don't. I always wondered if the universe is in a fish tank observed by Alien scientists..I know this isn't exactly what you teach.

Also another thing was the bible having spells cast on it too make people believe. I pondered this all day at work I thought about a book i'm reading called "SecretsofShamanism" It talked about energy being on everything. I just wonder if the bibles, angels statues and books I have even tho I never read them anymore have powers that affect me...I hear gospel songs I never can get out of my head and I hear sermons and many negitive things. I have a christian side of me I want to kill off.

I have seen christian mind control first hand I have had freinds who loved life, told jokes and made everyone happy, turn into a zombie practicly. They give up favorite clothes, movies, books, what they think and like to do till theirself is completely gone. I had a former friend I say former cause he told me I was freinds with the old him who is dead turn into a complete christian asshole whose ever sentence is about Jesus.

I had another freind who was an Atheist and said the bible was just a bunch of hallucinations by drug addicts turn into a Christian zombie.

Really I think I know the answer to my question..damn strait it's mind control like a virus that feeds and controls the brain. Jesus is just a vampire who sucks the life out of you and makes you a vampire too. It's like he kills who you are and makes you him.

So many of these people I have metaphorically called vampires have lured me into their cult time and time again. This towns infested with them like a kid with headlice.

I hope no one minds but I am not Satanist I am Wiccan I came here cause I thought reading the stuff here and talking to you people could help me stay on my path.

Christians have guilted, persuaded, and Even threatened me with rejectionn back into it.

If i'm not welcome I will understand but...I just had a gut feeling this group could tell me stuff I need to know and advice. If I am wrong I been wrong before.

 

[siguard666]

If you wish to become as the zombies, stay a wiccan. You think that wicca is different than xianity? We do not promote fake paganism, but true where one does NOT develop his or her limits but TO THE LIMITS AND BEYOND. If you really with to be free from xian shit, read this

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ldLie.html

Wicca is as wicked as xianity is - but it was made to look different.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "willybilly30" <willybilly30@... wrote:

I am new too this group although I have joined a few times and looked it over.

I just got threw reading some bulletins on myspace by one of your members. I'd rather not give the name cause sometimes people get mad if you talk about them behind their back even if it's good things.

Some things stuck out in the bulletins that made me think.

For one I have always wondered if Aliens created humans and When I was little I drew a reptilian and asked if they exist. Of course I was told they most likely did not by someone who'd have no evidence either way. Can you just say something dosen't exist when you don't got proof it don't. I always wondered if the universe is in a fish tank observed by Alien scientists..I know this isn't exactly what you teach.

Also another thing was the bible having spells cast on it too make people believe. I pondered this all day at work I thought about a book i'm reading called "SecretsofShamanism" It talked about energy being on everything. I just wonder if the bibles, angels statues and books I have even tho I never read them anymore have powers that affect me...I hear gospel songs I never can get out of my head and I hear sermons and many negitive things. I have a christian side of me I want to kill off.

I have seen christian mind control first hand I have had freinds who loved life, told jokes and made everyone happy, turn into a zombie practicly. They give up favorite clothes, movies, books, what they think and like to do till theirself is completely gone. I had a former friend I say former cause he told me I was freinds with the old him who is dead turn into a complete christian asshole whose ever sentence is about Jesus.

I had another freind who was an Atheist and said the bible was just a bunch of hallucinations by drug addicts turn into a Christian zombie.

Really I think I know the answer to my question..damn strait it's mind control like a virus that feeds and controls the brain. Jesus is just a vampire who sucks the life out of you and makes you a vampire too. It's like he kills who you are and makes you him.

So many of these people I have metaphorically called vampires have lured me into their cult time and time again. This towns infested with them like a kid with headlice.

I hope no one minds but I am not Satanist I am Wiccan I came here cause I thought reading the stuff here and talking to you people could help me stay on my path.

Christians have guilted, persuaded, and Even threatened me with rejectionn back into it.

If i'm not welcome I will understand but...I just had a gut feeling this group could tell me stuff I need to know and advice. If I am wrong I been wrong before.

 

[vorpulor]

My question is, if you properly understand energy as I think you do, and you have a "gut feeling" that we Satanists can give you help that Wiccans weren't able to provide...why not just do some research into Satanism?

Don't get me wrong, I would never try to coerce you into believing something you don't want to. Personally my belief is that everyone should be allowed to think, say, and do whatever they want, and if believing what they want harms them, fuck 'em, it's their choice. At least they're somewhat free to think for themselves.

However, you, right now are at a point I call the "curious" stage, where you have ceased to be repelled by the thought of Satanism and have, instead, become intrigued by it. This is a point that 85+% of the human race NEVER reaches. And I'm not talking about confirmed theistic Satanists; that's just the people that aren't immediately repulsed.

I'm quite sure that many of the questions you may have are answered on the JoyofSatan.com site. Start with the homepage if you want, or with any link that catches your eye. High Priestess Maxine does exemplary work on that site, and has many tutorials as well as Satanic texts, sermons, stories, and links to related reading where applicable. Remember that there is no pressure here; Satan does not force himself on anyone.

By the way, you would still be allowed here being a wiccan, however it would be unwise to push a wiccan creed here too much as that would def get you banned... like siguard666 said, wicca is just another manipulation tool, and as such is regarded as an enemy to us like all the others.

HAIL SATAN AND THE GODS OF OLD!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguard666" <siguard666@... wrote:

If you wish to become as the zombies, stay a wiccan. You think that wicca is different than xianity? We do not promote fake paganism, but true where one does NOT develop his or her limits but TO THE LIMITS AND BEYOND. If you really with to be free from xian shit, read this

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ldLie.html

Wicca is as wicked as xianity is - but it was made to look different.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "willybilly30" <willybilly30@ wrote:

I am new too this group although I have joined a few times and looked it over.

I just got threw reading some bulletins on myspace by one of your members. I'd rather not give the name cause sometimes people get mad if you talk about them behind their back even if it's good things.

Some things stuck out in the bulletins that made me think.

For one I have always wondered if Aliens created humans and When I was little I drew a reptilian and asked if they exist. Of course I was told they most likely did not by someone who'd have no evidence either way. Can you just say something dosen't exist when you don't got proof it don't. I always wondered if the universe is in a fish tank observed by Alien scientists..I know this isn't exactly what you teach.

Also another thing was the bible having spells cast on it too make people believe. I pondered this all day at work I thought about a book i'm reading called "SecretsofShamanism" It talked about energy being on everything. I just wonder if the bibles, angels statues and books I have even tho I never read them anymore have powers that affect me...I hear gospel songs I never can get out of my head and I hear sermons and many negitive things. I have a christian side of me I want to kill off.

I have seen christian mind control first hand I have had freinds who loved life, told jokes and made everyone happy, turn into a zombie practicly. They give up favorite clothes, movies, books, what they think and like to do till theirself is completely gone. I had a former friend I say former cause he told me I was freinds with the old him who is dead turn into a complete christian asshole whose ever sentence is about Jesus.

I had another freind who was an Atheist and said the bible was just a bunch of hallucinations by drug addicts turn into a Christian zombie.

Really I think I know the answer to my question..damn strait it's mind control like a virus that feeds and controls the brain. Jesus is just a vampire who sucks the life out of you and makes you a vampire too. It's like he kills who you are and makes you him.

So many of these people I have metaphorically called vampires have lured me into their cult time and time again. This towns infested with them like a kid with headlice.

I hope no one minds but I am not Satanist I am Wiccan I came here cause I thought reading the stuff here and talking to you people could help me stay on my path.

Christians have guilted, persuaded, and Even threatened me with rejectionn back into it.

If i'm not welcome I will understand but...I just had a gut feeling this group could tell me stuff I need to know and advice. If I am wrong I been wrong before.

 

[william northam]

I agree the rede really don't make sense I mean "harm none" How do you harm none? Everytime you breath you breath in germs to their death, everytime you eat you are supporting harm and I could go on and on with examples.
I really don't much like it and the belief in karma I'd rather believe if someone harms me I should harm them.
Like the site says I have seen Wiccans who used angels that never made much sense to me I have also noticed they do borrow from other religions.
I like some of their teachings tho like the God/Goddess I never could get myself to believe we just had a father and no mother.
I see on this site some Wiccans are gonna reject the father idea that sounds like a bad thing to do.
I also like the idea of everything having a spirit and being part of them, reicarnation, spirit guides, and I really like nature it feels so spiritual.
I could do without the rules and the rede tho and If it's christianity in disguise I could definately do without it.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:44 PM, siguard666 <siguard666@... wrote:

  If you wish to become as the zombies, stay a wiccan. You think that wicca is different than xianity? We do not promote fake paganism, but true where one does NOT develop his or her limits but TO THE LIMITS AND BEYOND. If you really with to be free from xian shit, read this

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ldLie.html

Wicca is as wicked as xianity is - but it was made to look different.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "willybilly30" <willybilly30@... wrote:

I am new too this group although I have joined a few times and looked it over.

I just got threw reading some bulletins on myspace by one of your members. I'd rather not give the name cause sometimes people get mad if you talk about them behind their back even if it's good things.

Some things stuck out in the bulletins that made me think.

For one I have always wondered if Aliens created humans and When I was little I drew a reptilian and asked if they exist. Of course I was told they most likely did not by someone who'd have no evidence either way. Can you just say something dosen't exist when you don't got proof it don't. I always wondered if the universe is in a fish tank observed by Alien scientists..I know this isn't exactly what you teach.

Also another thing was the bible having spells cast on it too make people believe. I pondered this all day at work I thought about a book i'm reading called "SecretsofShamanism" It talked about energy being on everything. I just wonder if the bibles, angels statues and books I have even tho I never read them anymore have powers that affect me...I hear gospel songs I never can get out of my head and I hear sermons and many negitive things. I have a christian side of me I want to kill off.

I have seen christian mind control first hand I have had freinds who loved life, told jokes and made everyone happy, turn into a zombie practicly. They give up favorite clothes, movies, books, what they think and like to do till theirself is completely gone. I had a former friend I say former cause he told me I was freinds with the old him who is dead turn into a complete christian asshole whose ever sentence is about Jesus.

I had another freind who was an Atheist and said the bible was just a bunch of hallucinations by drug addicts turn into a Christian zombie.

Really I think I know the answer to my question..damn strait it's mind control like a virus that feeds and controls the brain. Jesus is just a vampire who sucks the life out of you and makes you a vampire too. It's like he kills who you are and makes you him.

So many of these people I have metaphorically called vampires have lured me into their cult time and time again. This towns infested with them like a kid with headlice.

I hope no one minds but I am not Satanist I am Wiccan I came here cause I thought reading the stuff here and talking to you people could help me stay on my path.

Christians have guilted, persuaded, and Even threatened me with rejectionn back into it.

If i'm not welcome I will understand but...I just had a gut feeling this group could tell me stuff I need to know and advice. If I am wrong I been wrong before.

 

[william northam]

I will be reading JoyofSatan more I think this weekend when i'm off i'll read over it. I have liked what I have seen so far on the myspace bulletins winch probally came from their I know it had links too it. I will try not too mention Wicca unless asked about it or something. I will ask questions about stuff I see on the site and participate in topics going on. The things I mentioned I have always thought I'm kind of courious if I could find more stuff I have always thought. The closest thing I really read about Satanism is the Satanic Bible by Lavey and I disagreed with it but this seems alot diffrent.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:56 AM, vorpulor <vorpulor@... wrote:

  My question is, if you properly understand energy as I think you do, and you have a "gut feeling" that we Satanists can give you help that Wiccans weren't able to provide...why not just do some research into Satanism?

Don't get me wrong, I would never try to coerce you into believing something you don't want to. Personally my belief is that everyone should be allowed to think, say, and do whatever they want, and if believing what they want harms them, fuck 'em, it's their choice. At least they're somewhat free to think for themselves.

However, you, right now are at a point I call the "curious" stage, where you have ceased to be repelled by the thought of Satanism and have, instead, become intrigued by it. This is a point that 85+% of the human race NEVER reaches. And I'm not talking about confirmed theistic Satanists; that's just the people that aren't immediately repulsed.

I'm quite sure that many of the questions you may have are answered on the JoyofSatan.com site. Start with the homepage if you want, or with any link that catches your eye. High Priestess Maxine does exemplary work on that site, and has many tutorials as well as Satanic texts, sermons, stories, and links to related reading where applicable. Remember that there is no pressure here; Satan does not force himself on anyone.

By the way, you would still be allowed here being a wiccan, however it would be unwise to push a wiccan creed here too much as that would def get you banned... like siguard666 said, wicca is just another manipulation tool, and as such is regarded as an enemy to us like all the others.



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[siguard666]

It is not entirely that you CAN'T mention wicca - but whatever you write about it, will be bashed with the info on JoS. You can, however, use your knowledge of wicca... later. You will see what I mean - after studying JoS.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], william northam <willybilly30@... wrote:

I will be reading JoyofSatan more I think this weekend when i'm off i'll
read over it. I have liked what I have seen so far on the myspace bulletins
winch probally came from their I know it had links too it. I will try not
too mention Wicca unless asked about it or something. I will ask questions
about stuff I see on the site and participate in topics going on. The things
I mentioned I have always thought I'm kind of courious if I could find more
stuff I have always thought. The closest thing I really read about Satanism
is the Satanic Bible by Lavey and I disagreed with it but this seems alot
diffrent.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:56 AM, vorpulor <vorpulor@... wrote:



My question is, if you properly understand energy as I think you do, and
you have a "gut feeling" that we Satanists can give you help that Wiccans
weren't able to provide...why not just do some research into Satanism?

Don't get me wrong, I would never try to coerce you into believing
something you don't want to. Personally my belief is that everyone should be
allowed to think, say, and do whatever they want, and if believing what they
want harms them, fuck 'em, it's their choice. At least they're somewhat free
to think for themselves.

However, you, right now are at a point I call the "curious" stage, where
you have ceased to be repelled by the thought of Satanism and have, instead,
become intrigued by it. This is a point that 85+% of the human race NEVER
reaches. And I'm not talking about confirmed theistic Satanists; that's just
the people that aren't immediately repulsed.

I'm quite sure that many of the questions you may have are answered on the
JoyofSatan.com site. Start with the homepage if you want, or with any link
that catches your eye. High Priestess Maxine does exemplary work on that
site, and has many tutorials as well as Satanic texts, sermons, stories, and
links to related reading where applicable. Remember that there is no
pressure here; Satan does not force himself on anyone.

By the way, you would still be allowed here being a wiccan, however it
would be unwise to push a wiccan creed here too much as that would def get
you banned... like siguard666 said, wicca is just another manipulation tool,
and as such is regarded as an enemy to us like all the others.



.

 

[siguard666]

Umm... well, it is not about killing germs (well - that's what I understood...) or killing animals (torturing them is wicked and xian).
By now you may know that karma is just another tool to enslave humanity (do not harm, better to be harmed).

As for rules - do you want to be somebody's creation or a creator of your Self? Well, a sheep would answer 'creation.' There are only 2 or 3 dogmas (correct me please, if I'm wrong) - live your life, respect and honour Father with Gods, be responsible for your life.
Not very difficult to obey, aren't they?

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], william northam <willybilly30@... wrote:

I agree the rede really don't make sense I mean "harm none" How do you harm
none? Everytime you breath you breath in germs to their death, everytime you
eat you are supporting harm and I could go on and on with examples.
I really don't much like it and the belief in karma I'd rather believe if
someone harms me I should harm them.
Like the site says I have seen Wiccans who used angels that never made much
sense to me I have also noticed they do borrow from other religions.
I like some of their teachings tho like the God/Goddess I never could get
myself to believe we just had a father and no mother.
I see on this site some Wiccans are gonna reject the father idea that sounds
like a bad thing to do.
I also like the idea of everything having a spirit and being part of them,
reicarnation, spirit guides, and I really like nature it feels so spiritual.
I could do without the rules and the rede tho and If it's christianity in
disguise I could definately do without it.




On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:44 PM, siguard666 <siguard666@... wrote:



If you wish to become as the zombies, stay a wiccan. You think that wicca
is different than xianity? We do not promote fake paganism, but true where
one does NOT develop his or her limits but TO THE LIMITS AND BEYOND. If you
really with to be free from xian shit, read this

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ldLie.html

Wicca is as wicked as xianity is - but it was made to look different.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] <JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com,
"willybilly30" <willybilly30@ wrote:

I am new too this group although I have joined a few times and looked it
over.

I just got threw reading some bulletins on myspace by one of your
members. I'd rather not give the name cause sometimes people get mad if you
talk about them behind their back even if it's good things.

Some things stuck out in the bulletins that made me think.

For one I have always wondered if Aliens created humans and When I was
little I drew a reptilian and asked if they exist. Of course I was told they
most likely did not by someone who'd have no evidence either way. Can you
just say something dosen't exist when you don't got proof it don't. I always
wondered if the universe is in a fish tank observed by Alien scientists..I
know this isn't exactly what you teach.

Also another thing was the bible having spells cast on it too make people
believe. I pondered this all day at work I thought about a book i'm reading
called "SecretsofShamanism" It talked about energy being on everything. I
just wonder if the bibles, angels statues and books I have even tho I never
read them anymore have powers that affect me...I hear gospel songs I never
can get out of my head and I hear sermons and many negitive things. I have a
christian side of me I want to kill off.

I have seen christian mind control first hand I have had freinds who
loved life, told jokes and made everyone happy, turn into a zombie
practicly. They give up favorite clothes, movies, books, what they think and
like to do till theirself is completely gone. I had a former friend I say
former cause he told me I was freinds with the old him who is dead turn into
a complete christian asshole whose ever sentence is about Jesus.

I had another freind who was an Atheist and said the bible was just a
bunch of hallucinations by drug addicts turn into a Christian zombie.

Really I think I know the answer to my question..damn strait it's mind
control like a virus that feeds and controls the brain. Jesus is just a
vampire who sucks the life out of you and makes you a vampire too. It's like
he kills who you are and makes you him.

So many of these people I have metaphorically called vampires have lured
me into their cult time and time again. This towns infested with them like a
kid with headlice.

I hope no one minds but I am not Satanist I am Wiccan I came here cause I
thought reading the stuff here and talking to you people could help me stay
on my path.

Christians have guilted, persuaded, and Even threatened me with
rejectionn back into it.

If i'm not welcome I will understand but...I just had a gut feeling this
group could tell me stuff I need to know and advice. If I am wrong I been
wrong before.

 

[william northam]

Them dogmas sound easy to follow. I don't like a bunch of rules expecially ones that don't make sense and about giving up stuff I like to do. I got a question about karma. So there is no way a spell comes back on you? I hard if you like put a curse on someone you'll be cursed too. I also heard doing good attracts good and doing bad attracts bad in magic and life in general. I'v always avoided black magic cause of being taught that.  So is black majic not dangerous at all?

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:05 PM, siguard666 <siguard666@... wrote:

  Umm... well, it is not about killing germs (well - that's what I understood...) or killing animals (torturing them is wicked and xian).
By now you may know that karma is just another tool to enslave humanity (do not harm, better to be harmed).

As for rules - do you want to be somebody's creation or a creator of your Self? Well, a sheep would answer 'creation.' There are only 2 or 3 dogmas (correct me please, if I'm wrong) - live your life, respect and honour Father with Gods, be responsible for your life.
Not very difficult to obey, aren't they?

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], william northam <willybilly30@... wrote:

I agree the rede really don't make sense I mean "harm none" How do you harm
none? Everytime you breath you breath in germs to their death, everytime you
eat you are supporting harm and I could go on and on with examples.
I really don't much like it and the belief in karma I'd rather believe if
someone harms me I should harm them.
Like the site says I have seen Wiccans who used angels that never made much
sense to me I have also noticed they do borrow from other religions.
I like some of their teachings tho like the God/Goddess I never could get
myself to believe we just had a father and no mother.
I see on this site some Wiccans are gonna reject the father idea that sounds
like a bad thing to do.
I also like the idea of everything having a spirit and being part of them,
reicarnation, spirit guides, and I really like nature it feels so spiritual.
I could do without the rules and the rede tho and If it's christianity in
disguise I could definately do without it.




On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:44 PM, siguard666 <siguard666@... wrote:



If you wish to become as the zombies, stay a wiccan. You think that wicca
is different than xianity? We do not promote fake paganism, but true where
one does NOT develop his or her limits but TO THE LIMITS AND BEYOND. If you
really with to be free from xian shit, read this

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ldLie.html

Wicca is as wicked as xianity is - but it was made to look different.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] <JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com,
"willybilly30" <willybilly30@ wrote:

I am new too this group although I have joined a few times and looked it
over.

I just got threw reading some bulletins on myspace by one of your
members. I'd rather not give the name cause sometimes people get mad if you
talk about them behind their back even if it's good things.

Some things stuck out in the bulletins that made me think.

For one I have always wondered if Aliens created humans and When I was
little I drew a reptilian and asked if they exist. Of course I was told they
most likely did not by someone who'd have no evidence either way. Can you
just say something dosen't exist when you don't got proof it don't. I always
wondered if the universe is in a fish tank observed by Alien scientists..I
know this isn't exactly what you teach.

Also another thing was the bible having spells cast on it too make people
believe. I pondered this all day at work I thought about a book i'm reading
called "SecretsofShamanism" It talked about energy being on everything. I
just wonder if the bibles, angels statues and books I have even tho I never
read them anymore have powers that affect me...I hear gospel songs I never
can get out of my head and I hear sermons and many negitive things. I have a
christian side of me I want to kill off.

I have seen christian mind control first hand I have had freinds who
loved life, told jokes and made everyone happy, turn into a zombie
practicly. They give up favorite clothes, movies, books, what they think and
like to do till theirself is completely gone. I had a former friend I say
former cause he told me I was freinds with the old him who is dead turn into
a complete christian asshole whose ever sentence is about Jesus.

I had another freind who was an Atheist and said the bible was just a
bunch of hallucinations by drug addicts turn into a Christian zombie.

Really I think I know the answer to my question..damn strait it's mind
control like a virus that feeds and controls the brain. Jesus is just a
vampire who sucks the life out of you and makes you a vampire too. It's like
he kills who you are and makes you him.

So many of these people I have metaphorically called vampires have lured
me into their cult time and time again. This towns infested with them like a
kid with headlice.

I hope no one minds but I am not Satanist I am Wiccan I came here cause I
thought reading the stuff here and talking to you people could help me stay
on my path.

Christians have guilted, persuaded, and Even threatened me with
rejectionn back into it.

If i'm not welcome I will understand but...I just had a gut feeling this
group could tell me stuff I need to know and advice. If I am wrong I been
wrong before.

 

[acid312]

IMO, you have to be a complete idiot to have a black magick spell come back to you. Like concentrating on yourself instead of the victim when directing negative energy or forget cleaning your aura after you cast the spell.

Besides the black magick thing wicca has a serious fault, not using magick to enhance your everyday life and bring material possessions. I'm pretty sure almost all people who have interest in the occult want to use the knowledge to bring money, self-empowerment and other everyday things they deserve but they don't have because of the xian and kike controlled society. Satan does encourage everyone to use their psychic powers, auras and magick to better their lives, empower the self and destroy those who wrong them!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], william northam <willybilly30@... wrote:

Them dogmas sound easy to follow. I don't like a bunch of rules expecially
ones that don't make sense and about giving up stuff I like to do. I got a
question about karma. So there is no way a spell comes back on you? I hard
if you like put a curse on someone you'll be cursed too. I also heard doing
good attracts good and doing bad attracts bad in magic and life in general.
I'v always avoided black magic cause of being taught that. So is black
majic not dangerous at all?

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:05 PM, siguard666 <siguard666@... wrote:



Umm... well, it is not about killing germs (well - that's what I
understood...) or killing animals (torturing them is wicked and xian).
By now you may know that karma is just another tool to enslave humanity (do
not harm, better to be harmed).

As for rules - do you want to be somebody's creation or a creator of your
Self? Well, a sheep would answer 'creation.' There are only 2 or 3 dogmas
(correct me please, if I'm wrong) - live your life, respect and honour
Father with Gods, be responsible for your life.
Not very difficult to obey, aren't they?


HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] <JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com,
william northam <willybilly30@ wrote:

I agree the rede really don't make sense I mean "harm none" How do you
harm
none? Everytime you breath you breath in germs to their death, everytime
you
eat you are supporting harm and I could go on and on with examples.
I really don't much like it and the belief in karma I'd rather believe if
someone harms me I should harm them.
Like the site says I have seen Wiccans who used angels that never made
much
sense to me I have also noticed they do borrow from other religions.
I like some of their teachings tho like the God/Goddess I never could get
myself to believe we just had a father and no mother.
I see on this site some Wiccans are gonna reject the father idea that
sounds
like a bad thing to do.
I also like the idea of everything having a spirit and being part of
them,
reicarnation, spirit guides, and I really like nature it feels so
spiritual.
I could do without the rules and the rede tho and If it's christianity in
disguise I could definately do without it.




On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:44 PM, siguard666 <siguard666@ wrote:



If you wish to become as the zombies, stay a wiccan. You think that
wicca
is different than xianity? We do not promote fake paganism, but true
where
one does NOT develop his or her limits but TO THE LIMITS AND BEYOND. If
you
really with to be free from xian shit, read this

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ldLie.html

Wicca is as wicked as xianity is - but it was made to look different.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] <JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com<JoyofSatan666%
40yahoogroups.com,

"willybilly30" <willybilly30@ wrote:

I am new too this group although I have joined a few times and looked
it
over.

I just got threw reading some bulletins on myspace by one of your
members. I'd rather not give the name cause sometimes people get mad if
you
talk about them behind their back even if it's good things.

Some things stuck out in the bulletins that made me think.

For one I have always wondered if Aliens created humans and When I
was
little I drew a reptilian and asked if they exist. Of course I was told
they
most likely did not by someone who'd have no evidence either way. Can
you
just say something dosen't exist when you don't got proof it don't. I
always
wondered if the universe is in a fish tank observed by Alien
scientists..I
know this isn't exactly what you teach.

Also another thing was the bible having spells cast on it too make
people
believe. I pondered this all day at work I thought about a book i'm
reading
called "SecretsofShamanism" It talked about energy being on everything.
I
just wonder if the bibles, angels statues and books I have even tho I
never
read them anymore have powers that affect me...I hear gospel songs I
never
can get out of my head and I hear sermons and many negitive things. I
have a
christian side of me I want to kill off.

I have seen christian mind control first hand I have had freinds who
loved life, told jokes and made everyone happy, turn into a zombie
practicly. They give up favorite clothes, movies, books, what they
think and
like to do till theirself is completely gone. I had a former friend I
say
former cause he told me I was freinds with the old him who is dead turn
into
a complete christian asshole whose ever sentence is about Jesus.

I had another freind who was an Atheist and said the bible was just a
bunch of hallucinations by drug addicts turn into a Christian zombie.

Really I think I know the answer to my question..damn strait it's
mind
control like a virus that feeds and controls the brain. Jesus is just a
vampire who sucks the life out of you and makes you a vampire too. It's
like
he kills who you are and makes you him.

So many of these people I have metaphorically called vampires have
lured
me into their cult time and time again. This towns infested with them
like a
kid with headlice.

I hope no one minds but I am not Satanist I am Wiccan I came here
cause I
thought reading the stuff here and talking to you people could help me
stay
on my path.

Christians have guilted, persuaded, and Even threatened me with
rejectionn back into it.

If i'm not welcome I will understand but...I just had a gut feeling
this
group could tell me stuff I need to know and advice. If I am wrong I
been
wrong before.

 

[siguard666]

NOTHING is dangerous IF you know how to handle it.

Read the Info and see for yourself:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... agick.html

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], william northam <willybilly30@... wrote:

Them dogmas sound easy to follow. I don't like a bunch of rules expecially
ones that don't make sense and about giving up stuff I like to do. I got a
question about karma. So there is no way a spell comes back on you? I hard
if you like put a curse on someone you'll be cursed too. I also heard doing
good attracts good and doing bad attracts bad in magic and life in general.
I'v always avoided black magic cause of being taught that. So is black
majic not dangerous at all?

 

[vorpulor]

It is a lot different. Also I strongly advocate participating in topics as well as asking as many questions as come to you. Asking pertinent questions is, after all, the best way to learn.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], william northam <willybilly30@... wrote:

I will be reading JoyofSatan more I think this weekend when i'm off i'll
read over it. I have liked what I have seen so far on the myspace bulletins
winch probally came from their I know it had links too it. I will try not
too mention Wicca unless asked about it or something. I will ask questions
about stuff I see on the site and participate in topics going on. The things
I mentioned I have always thought I'm kind of courious if I could find more
stuff I have always thought. The closest thing I really read about Satanism
is the Satanic Bible by Lavey and I disagreed with it but this seems alot
diffrent.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:56 AM, vorpulor <vorpulor@... wrote:



My question is, if you properly understand energy as I think you do, and
you have a "gut feeling" that we Satanists can give you help that Wiccans
weren't able to provide...why not just do some research into Satanism?

Don't get me wrong, I would never try to coerce you into believing
something you don't want to. Personally my belief is that everyone should be
allowed to think, say, and do whatever they want, and if believing what they
want harms them, fuck 'em, it's their choice. At least they're somewhat free
to think for themselves.

However, you, right now are at a point I call the "curious" stage, where
you have ceased to be repelled by the thought of Satanism and have, instead,
become intrigued by it. This is a point that 85+% of the human race NEVER
reaches. And I'm not talking about confirmed theistic Satanists; that's just
the people that aren't immediately repulsed.

I'm quite sure that many of the questions you may have are answered on the
JoyofSatan.com site. Start with the homepage if you want, or with any link
that catches your eye. High Priestess Maxine does exemplary work on that
site, and has many tutorials as well as Satanic texts, sermons, stories, and
links to related reading where applicable. Remember that there is no
pressure here; Satan does not force himself on anyone.

By the way, you would still be allowed here being a wiccan, however it
would be unwise to push a wiccan creed here too much as that would def get
you banned... like siguard666 said, wicca is just another manipulation tool,
and as such is regarded as an enemy to us like all the others.



.

 

[minabucher]

Youre still thinking in xians thoughts and dogmas...
Loose that.YOURE FREE!!!
Do what you whilt,should be the law...
No regrets!
Satan is on your side,you never loose,....or you must be a totally hoe...LOL

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "acid312" <acid312@... wrote:

IMO, you have to be a complete idiot to have a black magick spell come back to you. Like concentrating on yourself instead of the victim when directing negative energy or forget cleaning your aura after you cast the spell.

Besides the black magick thing wicca has a serious fault, not using magick to enhance your everyday life and bring material possessions. I'm pretty sure almost all people who have interest in the occult want to use the knowledge to bring money, self-empowerment and other everyday things they deserve but they don't have because of the xian and kike controlled society. Satan does encourage everyone to use their psychic powers, auras and magick to better their lives, empower the self and destroy those who wrong them!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], william northam <willybilly30@ wrote:

Them dogmas sound easy to follow. I don't like a bunch of rules expecially
ones that don't make sense and about giving up stuff I like to do. I got a
question about karma. So there is no way a spell comes back on you? I hard
if you like put a curse on someone you'll be cursed too. I also heard doing
good attracts good and doing bad attracts bad in magic and life in general.
I'v always avoided black magic cause of being taught that. So is black
majic not dangerous at all?

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:05 PM, siguard666 <siguard666@ wrote:



Umm... well, it is not about killing germs (well - that's what I
understood...) or killing animals (torturing them is wicked and xian).
By now you may know that karma is just another tool to enslave humanity (do
not harm, better to be harmed).

As for rules - do you want to be somebody's creation or a creator of your
Self? Well, a sheep would answer 'creation.' There are only 2 or 3 dogmas
(correct me please, if I'm wrong) - live your life, respect and honour
Father with Gods, be responsible for your life.
Not very difficult to obey, aren't they?


HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] <JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com,
william northam <willybilly30@ wrote:

I agree the rede really don't make sense I mean "harm none" How do you
harm
none? Everytime you breath you breath in germs to their death, everytime
you
eat you are supporting harm and I could go on and on with examples.
I really don't much like it and the belief in karma I'd rather believe if
someone harms me I should harm them.
Like the site says I have seen Wiccans who used angels that never made
much
sense to me I have also noticed they do borrow from other religions.
I like some of their teachings tho like the God/Goddess I never could get
myself to believe we just had a father and no mother.
I see on this site some Wiccans are gonna reject the father idea that
sounds
like a bad thing to do.
I also like the idea of everything having a spirit and being part of
them,
reicarnation, spirit guides, and I really like nature it feels so
spiritual.
I could do without the rules and the rede tho and If it's christianity in
disguise I could definately do without it.




On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:44 PM, siguard666 <siguard666@ wrote:



If you wish to become as the zombies, stay a wiccan. You think that
wicca
is different than xianity? We do not promote fake paganism, but true
where
one does NOT develop his or her limits but TO THE LIMITS AND BEYOND. If
you
really with to be free from xian shit, read this

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ldLie.html

Wicca is as wicked as xianity is - but it was made to look different.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] <JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com<JoyofSatan666%
40yahoogroups.com,

"willybilly30" <willybilly30@ wrote:

I am new too this group although I have joined a few times and looked
it
over.

I just got threw reading some bulletins on myspace by one of your
members. I'd rather not give the name cause sometimes people get mad if
you
talk about them behind their back even if it's good things.

Some things stuck out in the bulletins that made me think.

For one I have always wondered if Aliens created humans and When I
was
little I drew a reptilian and asked if they exist. Of course I was told
they
most likely did not by someone who'd have no evidence either way. Can
you
just say something dosen't exist when you don't got proof it don't. I
always
wondered if the universe is in a fish tank observed by Alien
scientists..I
know this isn't exactly what you teach.

Also another thing was the bible having spells cast on it too make
people
believe. I pondered this all day at work I thought about a book i'm
reading
called "SecretsofShamanism" It talked about energy being on everything.
I
just wonder if the bibles, angels statues and books I have even tho I
never
read them anymore have powers that affect me...I hear gospel songs I
never
can get out of my head and I hear sermons and many negitive things. I
have a
christian side of me I want to kill off.

I have seen christian mind control first hand I have had freinds who
loved life, told jokes and made everyone happy, turn into a zombie
practicly. They give up favorite clothes, movies, books, what they
think and
like to do till theirself is completely gone. I had a former friend I
say
former cause he told me I was freinds with the old him who is dead turn
into
a complete christian asshole whose ever sentence is about Jesus.

I had another freind who was an Atheist and said the bible was just a
bunch of hallucinations by drug addicts turn into a Christian zombie.

Really I think I know the answer to my question..damn strait it's
mind
control like a virus that feeds and controls the brain. Jesus is just a
vampire who sucks the life out of you and makes you a vampire too. It's
like
he kills who you are and makes you him.

So many of these people I have metaphorically called vampires have
lured
me into their cult time and time again. This towns infested with them
like a
kid with headlice.

I hope no one minds but I am not Satanist I am Wiccan I came here
cause I
thought reading the stuff here and talking to you people could help me
stay
on my path.

Christians have guilted, persuaded, and Even threatened me with
rejectionn back into it.

If i'm not welcome I will understand but...I just had a gut feeling
this
group could tell me stuff I need to know and advice. If I am wrong I
been
wrong before.

 

[aresascent]

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "acid312" <acid312@... wrote:

IMO, you have to be a complete idiot to have a black magick spell come back to you. Like concentrating on yourself instead of the victim when directing negative energy or forget cleaning your aura after you cast the spell.

Besides the black magick thing wicca has a serious fault, not using magick to enhance your everyday life and bring material possessions. I'm pretty sure almost all people who have interest in the occult want to use the knowledge to bring money, self-empowerment and other everyday things they deserve but they don't have because of the xian and kike controlled society. Satan does encourage everyone to use their psychic powers, auras and magick to better their lives, empower the self and destroy those who wrong them!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], william northam <willybilly30@ wrote:

Them dogmas sound easy to follow. I don't like a bunch of rules expecially
ones that don't make sense and about giving up stuff I like to do. I got a
question about karma. So there is no way a spell comes back on you? I hard
if you like put a curse on someone you'll be cursed too. I also heard doing
good attracts good and doing bad attracts bad in magic and life in general.
I'v always avoided black magic cause of being taught that. So is black
majic not dangerous at all?

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:05 PM, siguard666 <siguard666@ wrote:



Umm... well, it is not about killing germs (well - that's what I
understood...) or killing animals (torturing them is wicked and xian).
By now you may know that karma is just another tool to enslave humanity (do
not harm, better to be harmed).

As for rules - do you want to be somebody's creation or a creator of your
Self? Well, a sheep would answer 'creation.' There are only 2 or 3 dogmas
(correct me please, if I'm wrong) - live your life, respect and honour
Father with Gods, be responsible for your life.
Not very difficult to obey, aren't they?


HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] <JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com,
william northam <willybilly30@ wrote:

I agree the rede really don't make sense I mean "harm none" How do you
harm
none? Everytime you breath you breath in germs to their death, everytime
you
eat you are supporting harm and I could go on and on with examples.
I really don't much like it and the belief in karma I'd rather believe if
someone harms me I should harm them.
Like the site says I have seen Wiccans who used angels that never made
much
sense to me I have also noticed they do borrow from other religions.
I like some of their teachings tho like the God/Goddess I never could get
myself to believe we just had a father and no mother.
I see on this site some Wiccans are gonna reject the father idea that
sounds
like a bad thing to do.
I also like the idea of everything having a spirit and being part of
them,
reicarnation, spirit guides, and I really like nature it feels so
spiritual.
I could do without the rules and the rede tho and If it's christianity in
disguise I could definately do without it.




On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:44 PM, siguard666 <siguard666@ wrote:



If you wish to become as the zombies, stay a wiccan. You think that
wicca
is different than xianity? We do not promote fake paganism, but true
where
one does NOT develop his or her limits but TO THE LIMITS AND BEYOND. If
you
really with to be free from xian shit, read this

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ldLie.html

Wicca is as wicked as xianity is - but it was made to look different.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] <JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com<JoyofSatan666%
40yahoogroups.com,

"willybilly30" <willybilly30@ wrote:

I am new too this group although I have joined a few times and looked
it
over.

I just got threw reading some bulletins on myspace by one of your
members. I'd rather not give the name cause sometimes people get mad if
you
talk about them behind their back even if it's good things.

Some things stuck out in the bulletins that made me think.

For one I have always wondered if Aliens created humans and When I
was
little I drew a reptilian and asked if they exist. Of course I was told
they
most likely did not by someone who'd have no evidence either way. Can
you
just say something dosen't exist when you don't got proof it don't. I
always
wondered if the universe is in a fish tank observed by Alien
scientists..I
know this isn't exactly what you teach.

Also another thing was the bible having spells cast on it too make
people
believe. I pondered this all day at work I thought about a book i'm
reading
called "SecretsofShamanism" It talked about energy being on everything.
I
just wonder if the bibles, angels statues and books I have even tho I
never
read them anymore have powers that affect me...I hear gospel songs I
never
can get out of my head and I hear sermons and many negitive things. I
have a
christian side of me I want to kill off.

I have seen christian mind control first hand I have had freinds who
loved life, told jokes and made everyone happy, turn into a zombie
practicly. They give up favorite clothes, movies, books, what they
think and
like to do till theirself is completely gone. I had a former friend I
say
former cause he told me I was freinds with the old him who is dead turn
into
a complete christian asshole whose ever sentence is about Jesus.

I had another freind who was an Atheist and said the bible was just a
bunch of hallucinations by drug addicts turn into a Christian zombie.

Really I think I know the answer to my question..damn strait it's
mind
control like a virus that feeds and controls the brain. Jesus is just a
vampire who sucks the life out of you and makes you a vampire too. It's
like
he kills who you are and makes you him.

So many of these people I have metaphorically called vampires have
lured
me into their cult time and time again. This towns infested with them
like a
kid with headlice.

I hope no one minds but I am not Satanist I am Wiccan I came here
cause I
thought reading the stuff here and talking to you people could help me
stay
on my path.

Christians have guilted, persuaded, and Even threatened me with
rejectionn back into it.

If i'm not welcome I will understand but...I just had a gut feeling
this
group could tell me stuff I need to know and advice. If I am wrong I
been
wrong before.

The term Black magic was coined by slavers of the African Peninsula to mean that it was magic used by Black people no offence to anyone.
also power and such money wealth I personally never had it growing up I had to deal with the scum off the ass of society mainlly schools around where I live besides that I know wiccans and there not the cleanest bunch hippies that in the sense dont bathe though it may be unfathombable to you its true besides there magic is to new age b.s. if you want power and such and if people say the price is your soul and dont you care about the nazarene tell them I can make up my own mind thanks but no thanks I could rant on and on but I wont.

 

[shadowprometheus666]

If you feel guilty about cursing someone then you could quite possibly attract black energy into your aura, thus cursing you as well. Or if you are a total noob, you could conjure up a shit ton of black/negative (or even worse, grey) energy and not clean your aura after...that could pretty much give you the impression you've been cursed. Though, there isn't some giant karma-man wizard up in the sky cursing whoever curses another.

As for good coming to you when you cast a white spell, this is because some of the white energy is absorbed into your aura when you raise up the energy to cast such a spell. It's all about energy.

As for the whole Wicca thing, I could really care less what you believe. Though around here the word "Wicca" has a lot of negative connotations so don't be suprised if most members are less than freindly to you when you tell them you are a Wiccan. What Wicca means to you probably isn't what Wicca means to us. We Satanists generally use "Wicca" as an umbrella term to describe all the fluffy, RhP new-agers that know nothing of real magic. And those people who think they belong to some goddess cult that was created by King Arthur and the fairies untill those meanie christians came and they had to go underground. And the ones who are too cowardly to fight back. And pretty much anyone we don't like that is involved in paganism/occult/alternative spirituality.

Though, from what you've wrote I can tell that's not exactly you.
-Dominic Wolfheart
HS/HL
<willybilly30@... wrote:

Them dogmas sound easy to follow. I don't like a bunch of rules expecially
ones that don't make sense and about giving up stuff I like to do. I got a
question about karma. So there is no way a spell comes back on you? I hard
if you like put a curse on someone you'll be cursed too. I also heard doing
good attracts good and doing bad attracts bad in magic and life in general.
I'v always avoided black magic cause of being taught that. So is black
majic not dangerous at all?

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:05 PM, siguard666 <siguard666@... wrote:



Umm... well, it is not about killing germs (well - that's what I
understood...) or killing animals (torturing them is wicked and xian).
By now you may know that karma is just another tool to enslave humanity (do
not harm, better to be harmed).

As for rules - do you want to be somebody's creation or a creator of your
Self? Well, a sheep would answer 'creation.' There are only 2 or 3 dogmas
(correct me please, if I'm wrong) - live your life, respect and honour
Father with Gods, be responsible for your life.
Not very difficult to obey, aren't they?


HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] <JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com,
william northam <willybilly30@ wrote:

I agree the rede really don't make sense I mean "harm none" How do you
harm
none? Everytime you breath you breath in germs to their death, everytime
you
eat you are supporting harm and I could go on and on with examples.
I really don't much like it and the belief in karma I'd rather believe if
someone harms me I should harm them.
Like the site says I have seen Wiccans who used angels that never made
much
sense to me I have also noticed they do borrow from other religions.
I like some of their teachings tho like the God/Goddess I never could get
myself to believe we just had a father and no mother.
I see on this site some Wiccans are gonna reject the father idea that
sounds
like a bad thing to do.
I also like the idea of everything having a spirit and being part of
them,
reicarnation, spirit guides, and I really like nature it feels so
spiritual.
I could do without the rules and the rede tho and If it's christianity in
disguise I could definately do without it.




On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:44 PM, siguard666 <siguard666@ wrote:



If you wish to become as the zombies, stay a wiccan. You think that
wicca
is different than xianity? We do not promote fake paganism, but true
where
one does NOT develop his or her limits but TO THE LIMITS AND BEYOND. If
you
really with to be free from xian shit, read this

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ldLie.html

Wicca is as wicked as xianity is - but it was made to look different.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] <JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com<JoyofSatan666%
40yahoogroups.com,

"willybilly30" <willybilly30@ wrote:

I am new too this group although I have joined a few times and looked
it
over.

I just got threw reading some bulletins on myspace by one of your
members. I'd rather not give the name cause sometimes people get mad if
you
talk about them behind their back even if it's good things.

Some things stuck out in the bulletins that made me think.

For one I have always wondered if Aliens created humans and When I
was
little I drew a reptilian and asked if they exist. Of course I was told
they
most likely did not by someone who'd have no evidence either way. Can
you
just say something dosen't exist when you don't got proof it don't. I
always
wondered if the universe is in a fish tank observed by Alien
scientists..I
know this isn't exactly what you teach.

Also another thing was the bible having spells cast on it too make
people
believe. I pondered this all day at work I thought about a book i'm
reading
called "SecretsofShamanism" It talked about energy being on everything.
I
just wonder if the bibles, angels statues and books I have even tho I
never
read them anymore have powers that affect me...I hear gospel songs I
never
can get out of my head and I hear sermons and many negitive things. I
have a
christian side of me I want to kill off.

I have seen christian mind control first hand I have had freinds who
loved life, told jokes and made everyone happy, turn into a zombie
practicly. They give up favorite clothes, movies, books, what they
think and
like to do till theirself is completely gone. I had a former friend I
say
former cause he told me I was freinds with the old him who is dead turn
into
a complete christian asshole whose ever sentence is about Jesus.

I had another freind who was an Atheist and said the bible was just a
bunch of hallucinations by drug addicts turn into a Christian zombie.

Really I think I know the answer to my question..damn strait it's
mind
control like a virus that feeds and controls the brain. Jesus is just a
vampire who sucks the life out of you and makes you a vampire too. It's
like
he kills who you are and makes you him.

So many of these people I have metaphorically called vampires have
lured
me into their cult time and time again. This towns infested with them
like a
kid with headlice.

I hope no one minds but I am not Satanist I am Wiccan I came here
cause I
thought reading the stuff here and talking to you people could help me
stay
on my path.

Christians have guilted, persuaded, and Even threatened me with
rejectionn back into it.

If i'm not welcome I will understand but...I just had a gut feeling
this
group could tell me stuff I need to know and advice. If I am wrong I
been
wrong before.

 

[william northam]

So, If I am understanding this right it's what you think about the spell. Like if you thought if I do this then I wll be cursed.
And not properly cleansing the aura afterwords. I wonder if some people that got "cursed" were maybe people who didn't know what they were doing and maybe just playing around.
Alot of people just do the spells and don't see what they need to do.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:17 PM, shadowprometheus666 <shadowprometheus666@... wrote:

  If you feel guilty about cursing someone then you could quite possibly attract black energy into your aura, thus cursing you as well. Or if you are a total noob, you could conjure up a shit ton of black/negative (or even worse, grey) energy and not clean your aura after...that could pretty much give you the impression you've been cursed. Though, there isn't some giant karma-man wizard up in the sky cursing whoever curses another.

As for good coming to you when you cast a white spell, this is because some of the white energy is absorbed into your aura when you raise up the energy to cast such a spell. It's all about energy.

As for the whole Wicca thing, I could really care less what you believe. Though around here the word "Wicca" has a lot of negative connotations so don't be suprised if most members are less than freindly to you when you tell them you are a Wiccan. What Wicca means to you probably isn't what Wicca means to us. We Satanists generally use "Wicca" as an umbrella term to describe all the fluffy, RhP new-agers that know nothing of real magic. And those people who think they belong to some goddess cult that was created by King Arthur and the fairies untill those meanie christians came and they had to go underground. And the ones who are too cowardly to fight back. And pretty much anyone we don't like that is involved in paganism/occult/alternative spirituality.

Though, from what you've wrote I can tell that's not exactly you.
-Dominic Wolfheart
HS/HL
<willybilly30@... wrote:

Them dogmas sound easy to follow. I don't like a bunch of rules expecially
ones that don't make sense and about giving up stuff I like to do. I got a
question about karma. So there is no way a spell comes back on you? I hard
if you like put a curse on someone you'll be cursed too. I also heard doing
good attracts good and doing bad attracts bad in magic and life in general.
I'v always avoided black magic cause of being taught that. So is black
majic not dangerous at all?

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:05 PM, siguard666 <siguard666@... wrote:



Umm... well, it is not about killing germs (well - that's what I
understood...) or killing animals (torturing them is wicked and xian).
By now you may know that karma is just another tool to enslave humanity (do
not harm, better to be harmed).

As for rules - do you want to be somebody's creation or a creator of your
Self? Well, a sheep would answer 'creation.' There are only 2 or 3 dogmas
(correct me please, if I'm wrong) - live your life, respect and honour
Father with Gods, be responsible for your life.
Not very difficult to obey, aren't they?


HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!

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william northam <willybilly30@ wrote:

I agree the rede really don't make sense I mean "harm none" How do you
harm
none? Everytime you breath you breath in germs to their death, everytime
you
eat you are supporting harm and I could go on and on with examples.
I really don't much like it and the belief in karma I'd rather believe if
someone harms me I should harm them.
Like the site says I have seen Wiccans who used angels that never made
much
sense to me I have also noticed they do borrow from other religions.
I like some of their teachings tho like the God/Goddess I never could get
myself to believe we just had a father and no mother.
I see on this site some Wiccans are gonna reject the father idea that
sounds
like a bad thing to do.
I also like the idea of everything having a spirit and being part of
them,
reicarnation, spirit guides, and I really like nature it feels so
spiritual.
I could do without the rules and the rede tho and If it's christianity in
disguise I could definately do without it.




On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:44 PM, siguard666 <siguard666@ wrote:



If you wish to become as the zombies, stay a wiccan. You think that
wicca
is different than xianity? We do not promote fake paganism, but true
where
one does NOT develop his or her limits but TO THE LIMITS AND BEYOND. If
you
really with to be free from xian shit, read this

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ldLie.html

Wicca is as wicked as xianity is - but it was made to look different.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!


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40yahoogroups.com,

"willybilly30" <willybilly30@ wrote:

I am new too this group although I have joined a few times and looked
it
over.

I just got threw reading some bulletins on myspace by one of your
members. I'd rather not give the name cause sometimes people get mad if
you
talk about them behind their back even if it's good things.

Some things stuck out in the bulletins that made me think.

For one I have always wondered if Aliens created humans and When I
was
little I drew a reptilian and asked if they exist. Of course I was told
they
most likely did not by someone who'd have no evidence either way. Can
you
just say something dosen't exist when you don't got proof it don't. I
always
wondered if the universe is in a fish tank observed by Alien
scientists..I
know this isn't exactly what you teach.

Also another thing was the bible having spells cast on it too make
people
believe. I pondered this all day at work I thought about a book i'm
reading
called "SecretsofShamanism" It talked about energy being on everything.
I
just wonder if the bibles, angels statues and books I have even tho I
never
read them anymore have powers that affect me...I hear gospel songs I
never
can get out of my head and I hear sermons and many negitive things. I
have a
christian side of me I want to kill off.

I have seen christian mind control first hand I have had freinds who
loved life, told jokes and made everyone happy, turn into a zombie
practicly. They give up favorite clothes, movies, books, what they
think and
like to do till theirself is completely gone. I had a former friend I
say
former cause he told me I was freinds with the old him who is dead turn
into
a complete christian asshole whose ever sentence is about Jesus.

I had another freind who was an Atheist and said the bible was just a
bunch of hallucinations by drug addicts turn into a Christian zombie.

Really I think I know the answer to my question..damn strait it's
mind
control like a virus that feeds and controls the brain. Jesus is just a
vampire who sucks the life out of you and makes you a vampire too. It's
like
he kills who you are and makes you him.

So many of these people I have metaphorically called vampires have
lured
me into their cult time and time again. This towns infested with them
like a
kid with headlice.

I hope no one minds but I am not Satanist I am Wiccan I came here
cause I
thought reading the stuff here and talking to you people could help me
stay
on my path.

Christians have guilted, persuaded, and Even threatened me with
rejectionn back into it.

If i'm not welcome I will understand but...I just had a gut feeling
this
group could tell me stuff I need to know and advice. If I am wrong I
been
wrong before.