Help/Advice with routine..

[VortexOfCreation]

Hello, I've started a new routine and am trying to optimize my sleep times/pattern to be more aligned with work and the routine. I've completed my 4th day of this routine and am now onto the 5th so far the routine consists of Kundalini Yoga, Alternate Nostril Breathing and Hatha Yoga and Void Meditation.

For 4 days I did the same repetitions, rounds and time but I'm gonna be increases the time spent in yoga poses by a further 10 seconds, 30-1 minute depending on the pose. Increase the rounds in Kundalini Yoga by a further 2. I've been thinking about leaving Void Meditation at 4 minutes til I can I've perhaps mastered to quiet my mind in that time frame...And the Alternate Nostril Breathing, I'm unsure whether to increase the rounds or just leave it for a little longer. I'm also unsure if I should increase after the 5th point daily or leave it the same til I've completed the next 4 days of the routine.

I've read from HP. Cobras 40 day that it mentions to do Hatha Yoga poses for 2-5 rounds of breath. But I go by the pdf file of the sample Hatha Yoga routine which instructs to remain in a position for a minute or even ten minutes(headstand,handstand). Is it more beneficial to do it the way its instructed on the 40 day program or is it okay to keep going with how I've been doing it...Obviously I breathe during the poses but I'm concentrated on the counting then the actual breathing.

I've just got my internet back on after having technical problems with it for almost a month so there isnt much on the routine. I also wanna ask for advice on what should I add to this routine. I'm definitely gonna add the Final RTR( just need to fit a time where I can do it and the rest of the routine)
But from this point I'm unsure what to add, been a bit out of the loop since internet went off.

I apologize for the very long post, I know there is a way to summarize the advice and questions but I wanted to perhaps explain in detail so anyone who reads this will have an understanding of what I'm saying.

HAIL SATAN AND ALL THOSE ALLIED TO HIM :smile:

 

[Shael]

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-Keep Void Meditation at 4 minutes. If you want to subtly increase control further, you can do it twice a day for 4 minutes instead of once a day.

-Leave the rounds on the nostril breathing as they are. It's important to take your sweet time with these things. They will always be beneficial even if you stay at the same amount of breaths for a long time. Increase slowly when you feel that you are ready.

-You can increase whenever you feel comfortable. It doesn't need to be a set number of days. If you want some kind of structure to follow, you can evaluate things every 4 days, asking yourself if you think you should increase or wait, and then decide based on that. It is usually good to go slow and increase only whenever you feel ready. Overdoing things can throw you behind more in the long run.

-The essence of Yoga and Yoga poses lies in relaxation. I believe that you should only set yourself rough estimates for each position, and then adjust this on the fly every day based on how long you actually need to fully relax in that position. Generally you want to slowly reach a state of full relaxation there, and then hold this state for another 30 seconds or more. If you are very inflexible, it could be almost impossible to reach the fully relaxed state in some positions. In these cases just set yourself a time estimate and try to relax as much as possible during this without straining yourself in any way.

 

[Eric13]

With any routine, build up as you’re able. It’s okay to push yourself, but always do it safely. Especially with breathing exercises and yoga. If anything is ever uncomfortable that means back off. The body adapts to repeated stimuli over time and you’ll feel when you’re ready to increase holds or rep numbers, etc. Listen to your body.

With advice with what to add, you need to add chakra work. Empowering and cleansing.

 

[VortexOfCreation]

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Well I do get aches in my legs, been happening ever since I started doing Hatha yoga but on the routine it advises to do the routine everyday or else problems will arise. I'm unsure if doing chakra work would be a good idea, I've only just started doing the Aura Cleaning and Aura of Protection meditations from HP Cobra 40 day meditations so working on the chakras straight away may cause even more problems. But if you have a suggestion on what meditation for the chakras I could do then I'd be happy to listen.[/quote]

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I havent changed the time on void meditation since I started doing it, I've been following HP Cobra 40 day meditation program and am currently on the 2nd day now. I have increased the rounds in the nostril breathing exercise to 8 from 6, but I'll leave the rounds as they are and gradually work my way up to higher rounds. I had the plan as I mentioned in my post to increase repetitions, rounds and time after the 5th day but I will back away from this, just in case it causes more problems.

The whole time I've been doing the Hatha yoga routine, the only pose I can comfortably relax in is the seated forward bend and perhaps the butterfly,diamond pose I'm unsure about the rest of the poses, the Locust and Bow pose are extremely difficult to perform and achieve a relax state. But I never force myself into the poses and yet they still feel like athletic stretching so maybe I need to tone the stretch down a bit.

This is to both of you. I've been doing HP Cobras 40 day meditation program currently on the 2nd day. I've created a routine(this was made before I started the 40 day meditation program)

[Morning] (if waken up at 7)
1. Aura Cleaning [As soon as I wake up]
2. Aura of Protection [After Aura Cleaning]
3. Void Meditation 4 minutes (Eyes open)
4. Kundalini Yoga [9am start]
[Afternoon]
5. Alternate Nostril Breathing. [12:50PM start]
6. 666 Breath (6 rounds) [4:30pm] - tried this breath today, not sure if I should leave it at this time or change it for the morning and night time.
7. Hatha Yoga [5PM start]
[Night-time]
9. Aura Cleaning
9. Aura of Protection (sleep affirmation)
10. Void Meditation 4 minutes (Eyes open)

This is my routine I've created that will also change in accordance to HP Cobra's program. After the times 9am and 12:50PM(3 hours, 50 minutes) I have nothing to do except well play games and watch movies, but I'm unsure what meditation or exercise to add there. I was thinking about adding 10 minute trance training, I did originally have it in the routine at the times of 10:30am and 2:30pm but I removed it til I'm at least adept in void meditation. But now the times are blank, and am unsure what to add in that time frame.

HAIL SATAN ALL THOSE ALLIED TO HIM :smile:

 

[Jack]

If you're a beginner what you need to be focusing on is feeling energy,void control and trying to open your third eye.

Always do breathing exercises before any meditation session which stabilizes your energy and calms your mind. Then do void meditation and proceed into yoga. After you do the yoga ,you need to manipulate the energy so you get a better knack for it.
https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Directing_Energy.html

https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Energy_Meditation.html

Alternate between the exercises each day. Your both feeling the energy and manipulating it which shoots two birds with a single stone.

Then you need to clean your aura ,preferably with VISHUDDHI. Vibrate VISHUDDHI 3 times into each of your chakras and 9 times into your aura. Gradually you work up to 11 times into your chakras and 31 times into the aura. You do this while visualizing the bright light cleaning any and all dirt.

This is immediately followed by Aura Protection by Suryae. You might vibrate it 40 times,into your aura and affirm accordingly to the site. Gradually you might work up to 55,111 and by that I mean very gradually. Your essentially doing 15-20 minutes for 111 vibrations if you're doing it correctly which is a lot of time.

Then do the EZ chakra spin.
https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/EZ_Chakra_Spin.html

Then you work on each of your chakras ,
Breathe in energy into each of your chakras for 5 counts, hold and release visualizing the chakra brightening up with in its respective color.

Then meditate on your third eye or points of astral hearing, seeing. Its important that you maintain void control and not let your thoughts make you dream. In trance its important for you to direct the mind and not let yourself be trapped in dreams. That is what void control is about. You should be meditating upon a chakra for each respective day as you sleep. Chakras correspond to planets and planets correspond to days. HPMaxine said how she did void meditation as she was going to sleep and I found meditating upon a chakra as you go to sleep empowered it as well as you went eventually to sleep and had better sleep also.

Breath retention and feeling the energy is very key. In all breathing while doing mantra work.Always remember your not a rapper who spits rhymes. Your a satanist who extends the vibration of the mantra till your breath is out. Patience is developed as you do it everyday.

Breathe in with Complete Yogic breath, absorb like a sponge the energy with particular color, hold for a count (5 for beginners) as you feel it, exhale vibrating the mantra slowly with proper pronunciation as you exit all the breath from your lungs, hold for a count, and the process repeats. You'll automatically go into trance by doing it 5-6 times which makes you even more energy sensitive and it feels really better.

As you become more and more sensitive the path will intuitively come to you about what you should do. One of the more important understandings about Satanism is that as your astral senses develop, you should start trying to contact your guardian daemon and establish a very close relationship with them as they are the ones who can guide you in meditation and life.

Also I have recently worked with the Necronomicon rune Gibil which confers knowledge about yourself to you, which is vitally important for working magick. If you know what makes you tick from your core you can then direct yourself fulfill your goals with the path of least resistance. Though you don't need to start doing that immediately.

As you start getting sensitive you should start vibrating Ur and Ansuz into your chakras to free them of blockages if any. And Laguz on your third eye, pineal gland and astral points to gain even more sensitivity for sight and hearing.

Its important to go very slowly in meditation as you record your progress and can actually feel progressing and getting better over time. Never take loads of meditations at once which you dont have the tenacity to complete.

 

[Gearshift]

The entire idea of the 40-day guide and using breaths to "count" is to establish pranayama with yoga. K-Yoga already uses breath of fire as a main pranic source. Combine it with hatha yoga to complexify it a bit more. Kinda like how you can add kelchari mudra(tongue on back of your top teeth) to almost any activity as long as your not performing mantras. Same with muhlband like say handstand being upside down.

With that said pranayama or breaths to count is an alternative to the asana timing position. For example lets say counting to 666 breaths takes 8-12 minutes so during these period of time you perform say "handstand" for 10 minutes. You can either count up to 666 breaths or count the 10 minutes in position.

On some level it's possible the breathing might be annoying for some. At least for me when doing void I notice breathing causes activity in my mind. So it's possible you might not like the breathing component for counting.

Again up to you count UP to 1 min or more UP to 10 or so minutes if not longer. Or count using breaths anywhere from the guide 4 up to 666 breaths for the higher hold asanas.

 

[Shael]

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A very essential thing to keep in mind is that there must always be a good balance between spiritual and material. Having some hours during the day in which you do not meditate or do Yoga is very important. Try to do healthy hobbies like working out, going for a walk, drawing, or anything really. Playing games is fine too as long as you do not overdo it. Try to do some stuff every day that makes you be physically active, and get some fresh air also preferrably. This will make you feel happier and will improve your health in the long run.

 

[VortexOfCreation]

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How do I vibrate VISHUDDHI?

 

[Jack]

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How do I vibrate VISHUDDHI?

VvvveeeeeSsssshhhhuuuddddhhhheeeee

 

[Eric13]

I've only just started doing the Aura Cleaning and Aura of Protection meditations from HP Cobra 40 day meditations so working on the chakras straight away may cause even more problems. But if you have a suggestion on what meditation for the chakras I could do then I'd be happy to listen.

Working on chakras will fix problems. Just start with the opening routine. Third eye first, crown, and work your way through them at your own pace. The chakras are linked to our psyche and our life and previous lives experiences are stored in them for better or worse. Open them, empower and clean them to find balance and strength.

 

[VortexOfCreation]

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Hate to be a bother, but how do I do the Breath of Fire during Kundalini Yoga? Do I just have to do the poses such as flex the spine and back really fast? or do I flex the spine once then start doing the BoF ?

But thank you very much for you deeply informative reply Jack I actually learned some new things, and I'll take these into account as I keep continuing my 40 day program

HAIL SATAN AND ALL THOSE ALLIED TO HIM :smile:

 

[VortexOfCreation]

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This will be the last question to everyone who has responded in this topic. I will not be creating a new one instead bumping this topic. Any other replies will not be responded to but will be acknowledged...Okay I've reduced the amount of the meditations/exercises I had in my routine to just AC,AOP,VM,KY,ANB and HY as well as the Complete Yogic Breath in line with the 40 day program. My question is, I wanna add the visualization exercise from Hell's Army guide, how does one stare the image for 3-4 minutes, do you do it like a void meditation exercise? or just blatantly stare at it??

Also this question is more of a practice makes perfect type of question, but I thought I might ask anyway. I've done the meditation twice and I can only hold the image in my mind for 2 seconds after that it disappears and I can visualize it again. Is there any method I could try to keep it there for longer, like an Open eyed VM except the eyes are closed so just focus on the center of the imprint? or something else??

As I said this will be the last time I respond to any of yous. Thank you all for being kind and offering advice some which I have never heard of

HAIL SATAN AND ALL THOSE ALLIED TO HIM :smile:

 

[Jack]

The entire idea of the 40-day guide and using breaths to "count" is to establish pranayama with yoga. K-Yoga already uses breath of fire as a main pranic source. Combine it with hatha yoga to complexify it a bit more. Kinda like how you can add kelchari mudra(tongue on back of your top teeth) to almost any activity as long as your not performing mantras. Same with muhlband like say handstand being upside down.

With that said pranayama or breaths to count is an alternative to the asana timing position. For example lets say counting to 666 breaths takes 8-12 minutes so during these period of time you perform say "handstand" for 10 minutes. You can either count up to 666 breaths or count the 10 minutes in position.

On some level it's possible the breathing might be annoying for some. At least for me when doing void I notice breathing causes activity in my mind. So it's possible you might not like the breathing component for counting.

Again up to you count UP to 1 min or more UP to 10 or so minutes if not longer. Or count using breaths anywhere from the guide 4 up to 666 breaths for the higher hold asanas.

What your saying is logistically impossible. While doing asanas instead of doing fast rapper breaths ,you actually hold the breath for as long as you can. That's the entire purpose of asana. Unless your doing Kundalini Yoga ,in which case also 666 breaths is too much for the body. The nerves will get extremely overstimulated and damaged. That's how people get mad after attempting Kundalini Yoga. I hope your not doing this.

 

[Jack]

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Hate to be a bother, but how do I do the Breath of Fire during Kundalini Yoga? Do I just have to do the poses such as flex the spine and back really fast? or do I flex the spine once then start doing the BoF ?

But thank you very much for you deeply informative reply Jack I actually learned some new things, and I'll take these into account as I keep continuing my 40 day program

HAIL SATAN AND ALL THOSE ALLIED TO HIM :smile:

The breath of fire is to be only done in particular positions as instructed. Not in all positions.

 

[Aquarius]

The entire idea of the 40-day guide and using breaths to "count" is to establish pranayama with yoga. K-Yoga already uses breath of fire as a main pranic source. Combine it with hatha yoga to complexify it a bit more. Kinda like how you can add kelchari mudra(tongue on back of your top teeth) to almost any activity as long as your not performing mantras. Same with muhlband like say handstand being upside down.

With that said pranayama or breaths to count is an alternative to the asana timing position. For example lets say counting to 666 breaths takes 8-12 minutes so during these period of time you perform say "handstand" for 10 minutes. You can either count up to 666 breaths or count the 10 minutes in position.

On some level it's possible the breathing might be annoying for some. At least for me when doing void I notice breathing causes activity in my mind. So it's possible you might not like the breathing component for counting.

Again up to you count UP to 1 min or more UP to 10 or so minutes if not longer. Or count using breaths anywhere from the guide 4 up to 666 breaths for the higher hold asanas.

What your saying is logistically impossible. While doing asanas instead of doing fast rapper breaths ,you actually hold the breath for as long as you can. That's the entire purpose of asana. Unless your doing Kundalini Yoga ,in which case also 666 breaths is too much for the body. The nerves will get extremely overstimulated and damaged. That's how people get mad after attempting Kundalini Yoga. I hope your not doing this.

You don't hold your breath during asanas, you breath normally with your diaphragm, the breaths should be more deep and relaxing rather.

 

[Jack]

The entire idea of the 40-day guide and using breaths to "count" is to establish pranayama with yoga. K-Yoga already uses breath of fire as a main pranic source. Combine it with hatha yoga to complexify it a bit more. Kinda like how you can add kelchari mudra(tongue on back of your top teeth) to almost any activity as long as your not performing mantras. Same with muhlband like say handstand being upside down.

With that said pranayama or breaths to count is an alternative to the asana timing position. For example lets say counting to 666 breaths takes 8-12 minutes so during these period of time you perform say "handstand" for 10 minutes. You can either count up to 666 breaths or count the 10 minutes in position.

On some level it's possible the breathing might be annoying for some. At least for me when doing void I notice breathing causes activity in my mind. So it's possible you might not like the breathing component for counting.

Again up to you count UP to 1 min or more UP to 10 or so minutes if not longer. Or count using breaths anywhere from the guide 4 up to 666 breaths for the higher hold asanas.

What your saying is logistically impossible. While doing asanas instead of doing fast rapper breaths ,you actually hold the breath for as long as you can. That's the entire purpose of asana. Unless your doing Kundalini Yoga ,in which case also 666 breaths is too much for the body. The nerves will get extremely overstimulated and damaged. That's how people get mad after attempting Kundalini Yoga. I hope your not doing this.

You don't hold your breath during asanas, you breath normally with your diaphragm, the breaths should be more deep and relaxing rather.

Breath retention is key. That is what makes breaths long and relaxing. Holding the breath for a count ,releasing, then holding for a count then repeating again.

 

[Usthepeople666]

The entire idea of the 40-day guide and using breaths to "count" is to establish pranayama with yoga. K-Yoga already uses breath of fire as a main pranic source. Combine it with hatha yoga to complexify it a bit more. Kinda like how you can add kelchari mudra(tongue on back of your top teeth) to almost any activity as long as your not performing mantras. Same with muhlband like say handstand being upside down.

With that said pranayama or breaths to count is an alternative to the asana timing position. For example lets say counting to 666 breaths takes 8-12 minutes so during these period of time you perform say "handstand" for 10 minutes. You can either count up to 666 breaths or count the 10 minutes in position.

On some level it's possible the breathing might be annoying for some. At least for me when doing void I notice breathing causes activity in my mind. So it's possible you might not like the breathing component for counting.

Again up to you count UP to 1 min or more UP to 10 or so minutes if not longer. Or count using breaths anywhere from the guide 4 up to 666 breaths for the higher hold asanas.

What your saying is logistically impossible. While doing asanas instead of doing fast rapper breaths ,you actually hold the breath for as long as you can. That's the entire purpose of asana. Unless your doing Kundalini Yoga ,in which case also 666 breaths is too much for the body. The nerves will get extremely overstimulated and damaged. That's how people get mad after attempting Kundalini Yoga. I hope your not doing this.

You don't hold your breath during asanas, you breath normally with your diaphragm, the breaths should be more deep and relaxing rather.

"Sleep in the asana", That kind of relaxation. It happens over time.
NEVER HOLD YOUR BREATH. Dangerous.
My GD told me That.
Slowly increase the stretch.
Dont forget martial arts stretches though. You should know how to protect yourself too and generally after the martial arts stretches I personally am full of energy( At my strongest) .
Make the affirmations of returning curses part 2 then, After you have cleaned.

 

[Aquarius]

What your saying is logistically impossible. While doing asanas instead of doing fast rapper breaths ,you actually hold the breath for as long as you can. That's the entire purpose of asana. Unless your doing Kundalini Yoga ,in which case also 666 breaths is too much for the body. The nerves will get extremely overstimulated and damaged. That's how people get mad after attempting Kundalini Yoga. I hope your not doing this.

You don't hold your breath during asanas, you breath normally with your diaphragm, the breaths should be more deep and relaxing rather.

Breath retention is key. That is what makes breaths long and relaxing. Holding the breath for a count ,releasing, then holding for a count then repeating again.

breath retention is the key in pranayama, not hatha yoga.

 

[Gearshift]

What your saying is logistically impossible. While doing asanas instead of doing fast rapper breaths ,you actually hold the breath for as long as you can. That's the entire purpose of asana. Unless your doing Kundalini Yoga ,in which case also 666 breaths is too much for the body. The nerves will get extremely overstimulated and damaged. That's how people get mad after attempting Kundalini Yoga. I hope your not doing this.

When did I say breath of fire for asanas on Hatha yoga?

For K-Yoga the medium speed breath of fire is the way to do it. Of course medium speed as you have to time the asana movement to the breath and like HP.Cobra said medium speed for a pump feeling.

I meant that you breath normally or deeply kinda like complete yogic breath. If you notice taking a breath takes about a second or so. So if your breathing deeply you are counting the second period of time.

Either count 1-2-60 seconds or further 10 mins. Or count with breathing i.e. just normal deeper breathing. If you breath deeper you find yourself counting 1-2-3-60 or up to 10 minutes. Just normal comfortable breathing since it seems to take a second or at least it takes a second kinda like saying 1 Mississippi - 2 Mississippi.

Since a breath takes about a second I figure 666 breaths would be the holding of the asanas for nearing or at or above 10 minutes. Barring any limitations or negatives or just anything I figure breathing 666 breath is nearly 10 minutes. As for savasana since it states at maximum 15 minutes both for H and K yogas. Then I figure you either stop at 666 breaths or continue taking a few more breaths like say 700ish or 800ish?

I'm just pointing out for those who feel like you MUST stay 15 minutes depending on which yoga websites you read some state 10 is fine, 15 is fine, I've heard 20 and 30 for some. So really it's probably just being kinda strict with it and some might feel the 10 minutes is fine.

I hope that clears the confusion for anyone and in particular to you Jack.