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Relationships emotional dependency

Tandecee

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Greetings,
Recently, something has been troubling me, and I wasn’t sure who I could talk to about it. Then I thought who better than you to ask for guidance? I also feel that this issue is something many people struggle with, and the solutions you suggest might help them as well.

I am grateful for my life. I do well in my university studies and have a good relationship with the gods. Although I am introverted and enjoy solitude, the absence of love bothers me. The gods always advise me to learn to live with loneliness (in a positive sense) and not become dependent, and I know this is for my own good, especially since I want to go to another country for further studies and will be far from my friends and family.

I am not straight, and where I live, this is forbidden, which makes me feel even lonelier. Some time ago, I told Lady Astarte that I felt lonely, and a few days later I met someone on X (Twitter). I even painted his face and sent it to him, and he was happy. But well, he’s just an internet friend; it’s unlikely that our connection will become truly platonic or meaningful, and that bothers me. He never realizes whether I’m sad or happy, and I don’t think he even cares. I both enjoy being alone and suffer from it. I feel the absence of love, yet at the same time, I despise it.

I’ve met other people too, both at university and online and I’ve wanted to have a close relationship with them, but it seems impossible. Although I’m somewhat popular, at best they only see me as an ordinary friend. Could you please help me figure out how to overcome emotional dependency?

Thank you
 
I would listen to the advice of the Gods here, learn to live with solitude enjoy it and take advantage of all the time you have to meditate and advance your soul. This is how you get to truly know yourself and the God within, the soul speaks in silence. Read Apollo's final Virtue "Know Thyself." You have everything you need within yourself, there is no need to depend on anyone else.

This does not mean you need to shun all love and relationships, so give yourself a chance to put yourself out there and open up to others who you feel deserve this and are open to this.
 
Greetings, Brother / Sister!

If you have that wonderful astral openness why won't you try first God relationships and loves? There are God Friends and HPS Maxine had wonderful God Friends throughout her life. Here is what I could find:


On Demon-Lovers:

In the end of the post with all other great literature I found some on great loves in Gentile history:

 
Love.
Yes, most people do want that, and most people will experience it first or late in life.
There's a point that I understood through experience and time that is : self-love. It is paramount in any relationship because lack of self love may fail to attract love from others, for a sort of projection that the mind makes. Especially the stronger mind of a Zevist.
The fact you feel coldness from that guy you met on the net, may mean you are blocking affection to come in your life. Maybe you want to be loved because you have never been truly loved as a child? And you really need that to feel more human, and warm up your inner fire?
So, in that event, you deserve to be loved more than ever. You want that so strongly - because you have been lacking love for most of you life.
Am I right?
The Gods do not operate in random ways and if they led you to that person, there should be a reason.
I would try to open up a bit with him. You deserve him and his attentions. It may be you perceive him cold but in truth he is interested in you? How does he perceive you from the other side of the screen? Are you also cold somehow?

Allow yourself to be loved and love will knock your door very soon. It may be already there in front of you, who knows.
 
I would listen to the advice of the Gods here, learn to live with solitude enjoy it and take advantage of all the time you have to meditate and advance your soul. This is how you get to truly know yourself and the God within, the soul speaks in silence. Read Apollo's final Virtue "Know Thyself." You have everything you need within yourself, there is no need to depend on anyone else.

This does not mean you need to shun all love and relationships, so give yourself a chance to put yourself out there and open up to others who you feel deserve this and are open to this.
Thank you, I will meditate on it
 
Greetings, Brother / Sister!

If you have that wonderful astral openness why won't you try first God relationships and loves? There are God Friends and HPS Maxine had wonderful God Friends throughout her life. Here is what I could find:


On Demon-Lovers:

In the end of the post with all other great literature I found some on great loves in Gentile history:

I’ve always known that human love isn’t meant for me, but I wanted to be sure. For some time now, I’ve been working on my chakras, and when I reach enough insight, I will ask the gods for new guidance.
 
Love.
Yes, most people do want that, and most people will experience it first or late in life.
There's a point that I understood through experience and time that is : self-love. It is paramount in any relationship because lack of self love may fail to attract love from others, for a sort of projection that the mind makes. Especially the stronger mind of a Zevist.
The fact you feel coldness from that guy you met on the net, may mean you are blocking affection to come in your life. Maybe you want to be loved because you have never been truly loved as a child? And you really need that to feel more human, and warm up your inner fire?
So, in that event, you deserve to be loved more than ever. You want that so strongly - because you have been lacking love for most of you life.
Am I right?
The Gods do not operate in random ways and if they led you to that person, there should be a reason.
I would try to open up a bit with him. You deserve him and his attentions. It may be you perceive him cold but in truth he is interested in you? How does he perceive you from the other side of the screen? Are you also cold somehow?

Allow yourself to be loved and love will knock your door very soon. It may be already there in front of you, who knows.
Yes, although I had no financial problems in my childhood, I was severely exposed to domestic violence. That’s why I prefer to stay away from my family. Even when I went home for the summer holidays, it happened again. And yes, I believe my encounter with that boy is meant to teach me not to be dependent, he has also experienced circumstances similar to mine.
 
Love must be deserved. Modern non-Zevists are brainwashed that somehow love to yourself should be completely unconditional, while love to others should obviously be conditional because otherwise it will be abused, which is blatant double standard; that if they happened not to be loved from the very beginning it means they automatically deserve extra portion of it just because they need it. Modern psychiatry severely lacks justice and severely mixes "need" and "deserve" because it is severely client-orientated (i.e. profit-orientated) not justice-orientated, it serves the wallet that pays, not the right side. Since knowledge of reincarnation is absent in masses, no one thinks in the direction that the way he was treated in this life or recent lives he might had treated others in very distant lives and his today or yesterday Important Others might be only giving him back what he once had given to his world very very long ago. In the fairer epochs people knew it and had to prove being heroes before being given the hand of the princess.

I do not say this or that situation in current or recent life one might have come only this and no other way because every path is individual and all karmic curls are unique. Yet this one is so classic that it has been coined in most legends of all peoples: to deserve the hand of the princess you have to kill inner dragon (to learn to use your planetary and other powers to the good not to the evil), and this seems to relate not only to the inner alchemy but to the outer one and social one as well, since they are interconnected. Otherwise if princesses get spread around to everyone whether heroes or not then where is justice and meritocracy anymore?

In the case of LGBT specifically I did not see any serious history proved case of LGBT that would not have higher planet in 5th, 7th or 8th house. And often they were not properly sublimated. And this has shown higher justice call in relationship sphere to be very classic case to say the least.

What I also see is that Capricorn or Aquarius (and sometimes Pisces) in 7th cusp in lower octave might show coldness and emotional absence (in Pisces case - self-deception) in any important relationship despite of the type of relationship: it might be important parent relationship or important spouse one. 7th is about the importance not about the type, and these two signs are known for their distance. While in higher octave the distance of Saturn / Capricorn is about perfectionism, self-improvement and self-advancement, and the distance of Aquarius is about unearthly, unworldly, extraterrestrial, cosmic and the other planetary. Pisces are obviously spiritual. Which all shows very good possibility of very fruitful relationship with Gods who are both teachers (self advancement helpers), extraterrestrials and represent highest spirituality. I saw these higher examples among Zevists.

I think higher planets and signs mentioned above might give very meaningful lasting relationship when their energies are totally "pleased" in this sense:


Their other meaning is great talents hidden behind difficulties:

 
Not sure what is meant by dependence, but extreme emotional merging is not bad, it is very powerful instrument that might be used both for the good and for the evil. HPS Maxine here shows how it might be used for the good:


One only might imagine what effect will merging souls with God give. Yet, merging souls with the monster who has a shit for a soul obviously will have bad circumstances.

Emotional clinging is great as far as it is not parasitic. I mean when it is about giving not taking.
 
Not sure what is meant by dependence, but extreme emotional merging is not bad, it is very powerful instrument that might be used both for the good and for the evil. HPS Maxine here shows how it might be used for the good:


One only might imagine what effect will merging souls with God give. Yet, merging souls with the monster who has a shit for a soul obviously will have bad circumstances.

Emotional clinging is great as far as it is not parasitic. I mean when it is about giving not taking.
I hadn't seen this sermon by HPS Maxine before, thank you for sharing it. This is what I've always meant by having a soulmate, not just because someone has a good synastry with you.
 
Yes, although I had no financial problems in my childhood, I was severely exposed to domestic violence. That’s why I prefer to stay away from my family. Even when I went home for the summer holidays, it happened again. And yes, I believe my encounter with that boy is meant to teach me not to be dependent, he has also experienced circumstances similar to mine.
I was barely sure about that, I have see so many people even on here who suffered this way.
If that boy experienced similar stuff, you may heal one another. Relieving him from his wounds will also heal your and viceversa. Provided, he is not too imbedded with enemy crap, that should not be the case as the Gods guided you to him.
Heal him and you will be healed, the value of a sane relationship here is immense, to rebuild your inner value of yourself.

You have my personal empathy here.
Never, never think you are hopeless as there is hope - always. That's why you are on this forum and you are guided by the Gods to a better life, because the Gods have seen hope in you.
You are not hopeles. Nor, anything is you fault. You have no fault in having been abused. So, there's no reason not to love yourself.
Tell this to your new friend/boyfriend. Let him know there's light after darkness, because, be certain - there is. I know for a fact, by experience, on myself. Not theories, but Truth.
You have been given hope, guidance, and a possible partner. The value of what you received is immense, never underestimate this.
One day, after many years, you will turn around and for a moment you will see how you were, and how you will be in that moment. Wait for this moment because it will happen, first or late, and you will see at a glance how much your life is improved.
Take care, you deserve it and deserve love and care. I perceive it from your words.

You are not alone, here.
 
I was barely sure about that, I have see so many people even on here who suffered this way.
If that boy experienced similar stuff, you may heal one another. Relieving him from his wounds will also heal your and viceversa. Provided, he is not too imbedded with enemy crap, that should not be the case as the Gods guided you to him.
Heal him and you will be healed, the value of a sane relationship here is immense, to rebuild your inner value of yourself.

You have my personal empathy here.
Never, never think you are hopeless as there is hope - always. That's why you are on this forum and you are guided by the Gods to a better life, because the Gods have seen hope in you.
You are not hopeles. Nor, anything is you fault. You have no fault in having been abused. So, there's no reason not to love yourself.
Tell this to your new friend/boyfriend. Let him know there's light after darkness, because, be certain - there is. I know for a fact, by experience, on myself. Not theories, but Truth.
You have been given hope, guidance, and a possible partner. The value of what you received is immense, never underestimate this.
One day, after many years, you will turn around and for a moment you will see how you were, and how you will be in that moment. Wait for this moment because it will happen, first or late, and you will see at a glance how much your life is improved.
Take care, you deserve it and deserve love and care. I perceive it from your words.

You are not alone, here.
Thank you. I’ve been working on my chakras for a while now, and I’m experiencing a lot of pain because of the release of suppressed emotions, but I know it’s part of my growth. I also assume that the presence of that boy is meant to teach me not to become dependent. Maybe one day I’ll find true love, though I doubt it will ever happen with a human being.
 
Greetings, Brother / Sister!

If you have that wonderful astral openness why won't you try first God relationships and loves? There are God Friends and HPS Maxine had wonderful God Friends throughout her life. Here is what I could find:

Absolutely no. Demon lover is very delusional, HPHC explained this very well multiple times recently. One of the sermons: https://ancient-forums.com/threads/succubi-incubi-cowardly-bunk.93101/

"Demon friend" is also not a friend like you can have physically, even the "lowest" immortals are million times above you. It is like you having an unconscious baby as "friend". You can't befriend a newborn. You can take care of them and guide them, and love them, and such, but that's about it.
This is not to not build relationships with Gods, but it is an entirely different dimension from having physical friends and lover, and loved ones, one will not replace the other.
Especially if we talking about very different species from Humans, that'll be even less of a friend like a Human.

Greetings,
Recently, something has been troubling me, and I wasn’t sure who I could talk to about it. Then I thought who better than you to ask for guidance? I also feel that this issue is something many people struggle with, and the solutions you suggest might help them as well.

I am grateful for my life. I do well in my university studies and have a good relationship with the gods. Although I am introverted and enjoy solitude, the absence of love bothers me. The gods always advise me to learn to live with loneliness (in a positive sense) and not become dependent, and I know this is for my own good, especially since I want to go to another country for further studies and will be far from my friends and family.

I am not straight, and where I live, this is forbidden, which makes me feel even lonelier. Some time ago, I told Lady Astarte that I felt lonely, and a few days later I met someone on X (Twitter). I even painted his face and sent it to him, and he was happy. But well, he’s just an internet friend; it’s unlikely that our connection will become truly platonic or meaningful, and that bothers me. He never realizes whether I’m sad or happy, and I don’t think he even cares. I both enjoy being alone and suffer from it. I feel the absence of love, yet at the same time, I despise it.

I’ve met other people too, both at university and online and I’ve wanted to have a close relationship with them, but it seems impossible. Although I’m somewhat popular, at best they only see me as an ordinary friend. Could you please help me figure out how to overcome emotional dependency?

Thank you

To make it clear, HUMAN RELATIONSHIPS ARE NEEDED. One SUFFERS deep down if they they don't have friends or a lover. There are obviously "episodes" in life, and personalities, but generally it is true for everyone that they NEED something. Once can mitigate the damage and bad feelings and whatever negative comes out of this, with a proper mindset, but this is only a temporary solution, the only long term and real solution is to build friendships and find yourself a lover.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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