About nutrition

[Disciple of the Serpent]

I don't know anything about nutrition, I try to eat something of everything when I can, otherwise I eat integral pasta with fish or meat, and with cheese.

Sometimes sweets. Like weekend breakfast or icecream sometimes. Other times honey (non industrial) but it's not the same satisfaction.
And sometimes I eat vegetables and fruit, not everytime.

I love eating meat, it's one of my favorites.

I avoid fast food, like plauges, but I take pizza from outside sometimes, not everytime as I tend to make it at home.

Rarely I eat fried things, these are not my favorites, but when I do like meatballs or frenchfries I make them at home.

I drink mainly water, cold if it's summer. I avoid alchool, sodas, and similar.
Sometimes I drink fruit juice homemade.

But basically I don't know anything about the science of this, I just enjoy it and one way or another I end up eating something of everything. Can someone explain in a clear way how to balance diet and making the math of this?

Or is supposed to just go guided by feeling/intuition?

 

[AFODO]

That sounds good, eating meat (both white and red), vegetables, fruits, some grains, water, honey, and avoiding processed food is a good diet for an average healthy person, no need to look further.
Raw milk if you can get it is also a very good addition.

 

[Tethys333]

I don't know anything about nutrition, I try to eat something of everything when I can, otherwise I eat integral pasta with fish or meat, and with cheese.

Sometimes sweets. Like weekend breakfast or icecream sometimes. Other times honey (non industrial) but it's not the same satisfaction.
And sometimes I eat vegetables and fruit, not everytime.

I love eating meat, it's one of my favorites.

I avoid fast food, like plauges, but I take pizza from outside sometimes, not everytime as I tend to make it at home.

Rarely I eat fried things, these are not my favorites, but when I do like meatballs or frenchfries I make them at home.

I drink mainly water, cold if it's summer. I avoid alchool, sodas, and similar.
Sometimes I drink fruit juice homemade.

But basically I don't know anything about the science of this, I just enjoy it and one way or another I end up eating something of everything. Can someone explain in a clear way how to balance diet and making the math of this?

Or is supposed to just go guided by feeling/intuition?

I'm always of the thought that you have to consult a dietitian also to learn about food and have a healthy relationship with it.
Sweets can be eaten even every day for breakfast, for example, my nutritionist fed me a snack (without filling) with carrots and a glass of water. Dessert for breakfast can be eaten since breakfast is the most important meal of the day and we need to give our body energy.
I also recommend eating lots of fruit for snack especially now that the hot season is coming, it quenches a lot of thirst.
Regardless, I always recommend the Mediterranean diet where you can eat everything in the right amounts. But always get help from a specialist.
Your way of eating is fine in my opinion. And if you still don't, I drink a lot of water

 

[OccultAffinity666]

I don't know anything about nutrition, I try to eat something of everything when I can, otherwise I eat integral pasta with fish or meat, and with cheese.

Sometimes sweets. Like weekend breakfast or icecream sometimes. Other times honey (non industrial) but it's not the same satisfaction.
And sometimes I eat vegetables and fruit, not everytime.

I love eating meat, it's one of my favorites.

I avoid fast food, like plauges, but I take pizza from outside sometimes, not everytime as I tend to make it at home.

Rarely I eat fried things, these are not my favorites, but when I do like meatballs or frenchfries I make them at home.

I drink mainly water, cold if it's summer. I avoid alchool, sodas, and similar.
Sometimes I drink fruit juice homemade.

But basically I don't know anything about the science of this, I just enjoy it and one way or another I end up eating something of everything. Can someone explain in a clear way how to balance diet and making the math of this?

Or is supposed to just go guided by feeling/intuition?

My diet is mostly meat and eggs, little fruit and vegetables and very little breads/carbs. I don't make fried food, no vegetable oils (but olive oil is ok), no potatoes, rice, beans and so on.
I have thought about it a lot and came to a conclusion that the only thing that can be called food is meat/eggs/dairy products, everything else is also edible but not really food.

Meat and eggs is the only thing that I consider natural/non processed food and it keeps me fed for long hours so I don't have to think about food and focus on the work that I have to do. Bonus is that meat and eggs are very easy and fast to prepare, so you are wasting as little time as possible.

Anyway, this is my personal view on the subject and it might not be for everybody.

 

[Mint666]

Cooking with animal fat like lard or ghee is way healthier than most oils. I don't even know which oils are safe, I keep hearing most of them go bad before they make it to store shelves.

 

[Norseman]

My doctor told me a long time ago to stay way from refined sugar and processed/starchy foods.
It's essential to have enough fibre in your daily diet with fruit and vegetables.

 

[Norseman]

Also, Olive Oil is good for salads, bread dipping, pasta etc. but not at high heat.
It's about the "smoke point" in cooking oils when cooking with heat. This is the temperature when the oil breaks down and forms carcinogens which causes heart disease and cancer.
The best oils to use are: Avocado, Grapeseed, Coconut and Peanut oils, which are all high heat, low cholesterol oils. Canola is falling out of favour now.
Butter (sorry Henu), is probably the worse, as is low heat, high cholesterol. But hey - it's all personal taste

 

[Henu the Great]

Also, Olive Oil is good for salads, bread dipping, pasta etc. but not at high heat.
It's about the "smoke point" in cooking oils when cooking with heat. This is the temperature when the oil breaks down and forms carcinogens which causes heart disease and cancer.
The best oils to use are: Avocado, Grapeseed, Coconut and Peanut oils, which are all high heat, low cholesterol oils. Canola is falling out of favour now.
Butter (sorry Henu), is probably the worse, as is low heat, high cholesterol. But hey - it's all personal taste

Yeah, well, cholesterol is required to build testosterone, so it is not as simple as you put it. Regarding the heat, there are alternatives, such as cooking at a lower temperature taking longer to cook on the stove and using an oven.

 

[Stormblood]

Cooking with animal fat like lard or ghee is way healthier than most oils. I don't even know which oils are safe, I keep hearing most of them go bad before they make it to store shelves.

Exactly. Tallow is also good, as is duck fat.

Also, Olive Oil is good for salads, bread dipping, pasta etc. but not at high heat.
It's about the "smoke point" in cooking oils when cooking with heat. This is the temperature when the oil breaks down and forms carcinogens which causes heart disease and cancer.
The best oils to use are: Avocado, Grapeseed, Coconut and Peanut oils, which are all high heat, low cholesterol oils. Canola is falling out of favour now.
Butter (sorry Henu), is probably the worse, as is low heat, high cholesterol. But hey - it's all personal taste

There's no healthy oil to cook. Oils are for dressing salads, and not seed or not oils. They are not for cooking. Olive oil and coconut oil.

Low cholesterol nonsense is a fad based on preliminary studies from the 80s. If you don't eat enough cholesterol, your body will be forced fo produce it in excess, which is not ideal.

Cardiovascular issues are due to seed oils and hydrogenated fats, ae well as excessive sugar. For the naysayers about sugar, one just need to get a glass and partly fill it with water, then start adding sugar. See what happens after a few spoons of sugar: that's what will happen to your blood vessel if you consume excessive sugar. Not to mention insulin resistance at some point due to the constant insulin spikes.

Cancer also feeds on sugar, not fat.

Butter won't kill you. Margarine and lurpak, on the other hand, will get you ill. It's not personal taste. It's medical science. There's facts, and there's fads from companies with a vested interest in selling seed oils.

Butter is one of the healthiest things you can eat, especially raw butter. Raw milk is also great for you, but you need to look for certified places because outside of Europe many raw dairy farms are cutting corners. In Europe there is legislation preventing people from selling raw milk unless it has undergone thorough testing.

Natural food has everything you need to digest. For example, raw milk has enzymes that allow you to digest lactose properly. Pasteurised milk doesn't because the high temperatures used in pasteurisation kills those enzymes and many helpful bacteria too. It's not black and white with bacteria. There are both harmful and beneficial ones. For example, your mouth uses certain bacteria to pre-digest food. Your stomach has a microbiome with many beneficial bacteria that help digest food.

Pasteurisation was created a few decades ago because the enemy coerced farmers into cutting corners with food, getting cows constantly ill because of restricted environments, low hygiene standards, and unhealthy diets (corn and soy, usually). People started getting ill and pasteurisation became temporarily necessary. For eggs too.

Now we have some farmers behaving ethically without enemy influences. So we can choose to buy real food (aka raw, grass-finished, and organic), instead of buying shit food like most NPCs.

 

[sonnenscent]

Diet is very personal and if you do exercises tou have to supply your macros and take vitamins nowadays foods usually don't support everything we need cause of the soil... The most important is to try get avoid from processed food, high amounts of sodium and white sugar and do exercises and counts your macros even if you are strict vegan...
Long periods of fastings is dangerous. Yes, we all need fat and 1g per kg daily is enough to produce hormones.

 

[Umun]

Yeah, well, cholesterol is required to build testosterone, so it is not as simple as you put it. Regarding the heat, there are alternatives, such as cooking at a lower temperature taking longer to cook on the stove and using an oven.

Also, very important, myelin cannot be made without cholesterol. The true ranges in which all the essential components of our systems should be were well known and established before this "advanced" modern medicine told us what was bad and how to behave so that they can have an endless supply of patients.

Trusting your doctor about everything they say is one option, then there's the other where you do your research, learn chemistry and connect some dots.

Excess cholesterol is not good but how much is too much?

Lard and ghee is the way to go for cooking and baking. For your salads and everything else olive oil is perfect.

OP's question is very general and the topic is so broad and complex that it would take a lot of discussion to arrive to some conclusions and useful advice.

The origin of what I eat is most important for me. I know the farm that breeds the animals that I consume and the fruit and vegetables too.

 

[Norseman]

I didn't say cancer feeds on sugar or fat; 'I said carcinogens are caused when you go above the "smoke point", when you cook at high temperature'. This is irregardless by what you cook with, and is proven science.

I didn't say cholesterol is bad for you; 'I said high cholesterol is'. A certain amount of cholesterol is essential and produced by the body (approx. 75%).

Science is a wonderful thing, but we are all different. What is good for some, can be unhealthy or even dangerous for others; different metabolism, allergies etc.
As I said; 'it's personal taste'.
All here have made good, informative points. I look forward everyday in coming here and engaging in friendly robust exchanging of opinions, which is difficult to find anywhere else.

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[Norseman]

Also, it's appreciated when replying, if members use specific quotes of the points they are debating, instead of just the general post. This both eliminates being "misquoted", and reduces circumventing the issue.
Thanks