Relationships #78020 I struggle to talk to normal people... I've tried

[AskSatanOperator]

Should I just always avoid normies whenever possible, or try to get to know them. Is there really any point?

I only want to talk about intellectual topics, but my self-esteem takes a hit when I try to talk on their level of nonsense and I am inevitably rejected.

Is it okay to just avoid them? Or should I still try? Idk.

 

[Renita]

It is very hard to have dumb-down yourself to talk to most people (especially about spiritual matters), but protecting yourself is more important. Silence is Golden.

Most of my friends are either xians or some version of an atheist. I still have normal day to day conversations with them and still can talk and have fun with them. Don't isolate yourself just because they are not at the same level as you. Humans are social and need communication.

Depending on what you mean by "intellectual" topics, if you act a certain way, you will attract certain people. If you act like an idiot, then you will attract idiots, vice versa.

Cleaning, empowering and programming your aura to attract certain people also works well.

 

[Henu the Great]

You should find other intellectuals where such people gather to meet people who are "on your level" regarding topics you are interested in.

 

[Helleniser]

You can still find something in common with most people. It's important to keep contact with friends from all walks of life. The real flex is being able to communicate both with construction workers and doctors. We here in the ToZ may be more spiritual, but we're not Christian monks. We are active in society.

 

[Masterj810610]

You should find other intellectuals where such people gather to meet people who are "on your level" regarding topics you are interested in.

I have one place for sure: demonicarmy.com/invite/SQGR0Cbr

Come and socialize with Zevists.

And like Helleniser said, you should try to find some subject with normies too. Its part of the Path. Imagine when Zevism will be the only religion and normies asking question to learn, you will have to speak to them.

I am like you but I've been better at it in the last couple of months. You only need to dive in it.

 

[OttoHart]

Not all friendships are deep unions, where lives and paths conjoin. Those are "true" friendships, yes, but one only really gets to have a few of those.

"Regular" friendships are needed for a healthy life. People you share a hobby with, healthy relationships with co-workers, clubs you may go to, education and further studies (there's nothing wrong with going to seminaries, book clubs or other "intellectual" endeavors even if one is 30 and out of college), friends you go hit on girls with if you're single, friends to share a beer with or watch a movie with.

This is necessary for grounding. Don't ignore any of your chart's houses, so to say.

 

[Stormblood]

It's important to have people to both have serious conversations and light-hearted banter. We're all humans after all.

Finding the right people requires a lot of searching, weeding the wheat from the chaff. The effort you have to put is not something that should prompt you to give up. Effort is what makes things valuable. Things that are acquired easily are also lost easily because they hold little to no value.

Isolating may do you more harm than good, depending on what stage of life you're in and your birth chart.

Check your birth chart:

• Where's the hemisphere emphasis?
• What element is dominant, what are weak, what are strong? Any lacking?
• What signs on the cusp of your 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 11th? What planets inside? What are the rulers and where they are? Any aspects to those rulers?
• What's your rising sign? Where's your chart ruler? Any aspects to it?
• Any stellium? If yes, what is it, what's the ruler, what planets are involved, what aspects?
• Where's your Moon?

All this information is not for us to know. It's to give you insight on yourself, your communication style, how you have fun, what people you attract socially, etc. You can find your strengths and weaknesses there, so you can work on them. Any self-delusions as well, as the chart doesn't lie about who you are. Knowing it will give you the most self-awareness and a starting point for you to work with.

If there's any affliction in regards to the social environment you will find it and you can correct it through planetary squares and other spiritual means. You also will know what environments are the most fertile ground for you to find the best people socially. Not to mention, you'll find out how much alone time and how much social time you need, which is important in finding the right balance.

I hope my reply helps.

 

[AskSatanOperator]

It's important to have people to both have serious conversations and light-hearted banter. We're all humans after all.

Finding the right people requires a lot of searching, weeding the wheat from the chaff. The effort you have to put is not something that should prompt you to give up. Effort is what makes things valuable. Things that are acquired easily are also lost easily because they hold little to no value.

Isolating may do you more harm than good, depending on what stage of life you're in and your birth chart.

Check your birth chart:

• Where's the hemisphere emphasis?
• What element is dominant, what are weak, what are strong? Any lacking?
• What signs on the cusp of your 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 11th? What planets inside? What are the rulers and where they are? Any aspects to those rulers?
• What's your rising sign? Where's your chart ruler? Any aspects to it?
• Any stellium? If yes, what is it, what's the ruler, what planets are involved, what aspects?
• Where's your Moon?

All this information is not for us to know. It's to give you insight on yourself, your communication style, how you have fun, what people you attract socially, etc. You can find your strengths and weaknesses there, so you can work on them. Any self-delusions as well, as the chart doesn't lie about who you are. Knowing it will give you the most self-awareness and a starting point for you to work with.

If there's any affliction in regards to the social environment you will find it and you can correct it through planetary squares and other spiritual means. You also will know what environments are the most fertile ground for you to find the best people socially. Not to mention, you'll find out how much alone time and how much social time you need, which is important in finding the right balance.

I hope my reply helps.

Thing is, my chart is of a very social (but introverted) person. I am just so dogshit at fitting in with people of this civilisation. I would fit right in on a place like Lemuria/Atlantis or the Ancient Civilisations, I'm pretty sure my past life was something like that. Which is why the contradiction, I just don't belong here. And I don't like these people.

I feel like I have to constantly censor myself in a way that is basically self-harm to my psyche. I'm not good at lying.

I want badly to be social, but only with high IQ, or artistic people, and good souls. I just don't care that much about anyone else except of basic courtesy/politeness.

My CR is Venus Virgo 11th, and heavy Aquarius Libra Sagittarius emphasis on houses/planets u mentioned. Maybe I am too picky, but idk. I think it's good to have standards. Do u think this is unwise/stupid? Will Venus Square fix this?

I looked at the stuff you mentioned, and it just seems I can basically only exist in permanent higher education environment lifelong in the sciences/arts/occult, but i dropped out before high school so i dont have qualifications to enter University