So there is a magnetic cord attached to your body?
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Warlock" <adamlux22@y...
  wrote:
  
   i'm with you maxine.... cuz, i remember last time i projected (a 
   couple weeks ago) it was less than a min and my wife was walkin into 
   my room and i heard her foot steps and i was aware that she's gonna 
   wake me up and my senses said to return to my body and i did. in no 
   time she walked in and wake me up. probably there was some danger 
   involved about it and i guess my GDs were helpin me out. 
   Hail to all my Guardian Demons....
   Hail to my Father Satan Lucifer....
   
   
   
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "topsik85" <pip85@o... 
   wrote:
   
    Yes you are right but it is far away from dying 
 
    
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "High Priestess Maxine
    Dietrich" <maxinedietrich@y... wrote:
    
     
     I really don't know, but I do know being awakened out of a deep 
     trance can be dangerous. I remember I was deep, deep into a 
   trance 
     and meditating on my second and third chakras at that time and 
   my 
     daughter bolted into the room and this tore me out of the trance 
   (I 
     was being an idiot and didn't think to lock the door!), well, I 
   felt 
     a strong immediate pain that resulted from her noise in running 
   into 
     my room, between my second and third chakras- you know like when 
     noises cause pain when we are in a trance or light sleep? Only 
   this 
     was like getting socked in the stomach and the pain lasted 
   several 
     days afterwards. I felt the way one feels after a physical fight-
    
     you know when you are fighting you feel nothing and then 
   afterwards, 
     everything begins to hurt. 
     
     
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "blackshadowstallion" 
     <blackshadowstallion@y... wrote:
     
      Do you **REALLY** die when you are projecting and someone 
   touches 
      your body? This just seems kind of suspicious to me. I've 
   never 
     had 
      this situation so I wouldn't know.
      
      
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "High Priestess 
   Maxine 
      Dietrich" <maxinedietrich@y... wrote:
      
       
       One thing I want to add from experience- most authors claim 
   the 
      astral cord
       is silver.
       I have seen bronze/copper colored when someone I knew astral 
      projected into
       my room to visit me. 
       This was a human being. 
       
       Also, in astral projecting, one's astral body must be strong 
      enough to
       remain outside of the physical body at will. 
       Astral projection may be easier for new people, after 
   invoking 
      energy
       through power meditation, to where 
       you can feel your aura real strong. Also, mental 
   concentration 
      during the
       separation is very important. 
       Concentrating on separating after the rocking sensation. 
       
       "Mental Wandering" is remote viewing; placing your 
   consciousness 
      in a
       certain area, 
       by will and viewing the goings on with this. 
       These writings are only a guide. 
       As with everything, experience is always the best teacher. 
       
       **
       
       Conscious Separation of the Astral Body from the Physical 
   Body ~
       
       
       In this chapter the magician will learn how to separate his 
     astral 
      body from
       his physical body by means of
       conscious training, and how to get to places he wants, not 
   only 
      with his
       spirit but also with this soul, to
       places he wants to visit in the shape of his astral body. As 
   we 
      shall see,
       the emission of the astral body is
       different from mental wandering or the state of trance 
   caused by 
      akasa. The
       state during which the
       mental and astral bodies are separated from the physical 
   body is 
      called
       ecstasy in the terminology of the
       occultists. 
       
       The perfect magician is able to go anywhere he likes in his 
     astral 
      shape,
       though inmost cases he
       will content himself with mental wandering or the state of 
     trance. 
      As a
       rule, the astral body when united
       with the mental body but separated from the physical body 
   will 
      only carry
       out jobs that need to be done
       by physical magic action. 
       
       When emitting the astral body, certain precautions have to 
   be 
      taken, since
       in this case both links between 
       the mental and astral body and the physical body, the so-
   called 
      mental and
       astral matrix, are loosened from the body. 
       The mental and astral bodies are connected to the physical 
   body 
      only by a
       very subtle elastic ribbing that shines like silver. 
       If during the period in which the mental and astral bodies 
   are 
      loosened from
       the physical matrix, 
       the latter were touched by another person, no matter whether 
      skilled or
       unskilled in magic practice, 
       the said ribbon, being extremely subtle, would break in two 
   at 
      once. 
       
       The connection between the physical body being thus 
   interrupted, 
      physical
       death
       would be the consequence. Therefore utmost care has to be 
   taken 
      right from
       the beginning of these
       exercises that nobody should be able to touch the body of 
   the 
      magician when
       he puts himself in the
       described state. The thin ribbon would be torn to pieces, the
       electromagnetic fluid in man being much
       stronger. Even the tender life-ribbon of an advanced 
   magician 
      would not be
       able to resist that fluid. A
       medical expert examining the body of a person killed in such 
   a 
      manner would
       come to the conclusion that
       death was caused by heart failure or embolism. In its state 
   of 
      ecstasy the
       physical body is, a in the case of
       apparent death, without life and feeling; its breath has 
   stopped 
      and its
       heart has come to a standstill. 
       
       The following lines are intended to give you a clear picture 
   of 
     the
       practical side of the procedure. Apparent
       death too is a state of ecstasy, though caused by the 
     pathological
       conditions in the person concerned,
       which can be explained easily by any magician.
       It should be added, however, that the mental matrix, the 
   binding 
      agent
       between the mental and astral
       body, is kept working by normal breathing, which supplies 
   the 
      blood vessels
       with the four elements and
       akasa via the lungs. We all know from experience that there 
   can 
     be 
      no life
       without breathing. The astral
       matrix, the connecting link between the astral and the 
   physical 
      body is kept
       alive by food. The magician
       will now become aware of the connection between the food 
   supply 
      and breath
       and will have found its
       true cause in the preceding chapters dealing with conscious 
      breathing and
       well-balanced nutrition. 
       
       If one point or another is neglected during this stage of 
      development,
       disharmonies, diseases and other
       inconveniences will be the result. Many mental and psychic 
      disturbances are
       caused by irregularities in or
       neglect of these two factors. Therefore it has been pointed 
   out 
      right from
       the beginning that body, soul
       and spirit must be equally developed and kept in order. If 
   the 
      physical body
       is not well balanced, not
       strong enough and tough enough, and if it does not have a 
      sufficient reserve
       of electromagnetic fluids
       stocked by substantial food, rich in vitamins and minerals, 
     thereby
       procuring itself an adequate elasticity,
       ecstasy training could have an ill effect on it. Therefore, 
   any 
      magician
       will agree in that ascetical training
       necessitating diet reduction must be considered extreme and 
      therefore
       unhealthy. Many oriental methods
       demanding asceticism and ascetical training are one-sided 
   and no 
      doubt
       dangerous to people who are not
       natives of India and whose physical structure is not 
   accustomed 
     to 
      the local
       climate. If the magician,
       however, has been able to develop equally the three steps of 
      existence,
       i.e., body, soul and spirit, he need
       not fear that there could happen any disorders in his 
   mental, 
      astral or
       physical bodies. But the person not
       going through this course step by step, but neglecting here 
   and 
      there the
       necessary precautions must
       account for possible disharmonies. 
       
       The magician will therefore not start practicing the 
   emission of 
      his astral
       body unless he is quite certain to 
       have a thorough command over all the steps recommended up to 
     this 
      point. In
       the case of mental wandering 
       the most subtle part, the astral matrix connecting body and 
     soul, 
      remains in
       the body, but when the astral body 
       is separated from the physical body, everything is pulled 
   out of 
      the latter,
       which makes double precautions necessary 
       when one proceeds to ecstasy training.
       
       The procedure to be followed when emitting the astral body 
      actually is quite
       simple, especially for
       magicians that have a good command over mental wandering. 
   The 
      separation of
       the astral from the
       physical body is carried out as follows:
       
       1. Sit in your asana posture (though these exercises also 
   can be 
      done when
       lying down) and let your mental
       body escape from your physical body. 
       
       2. Your consciousness now being transferred into your mental 
     body, 
      watch
       your physical body. 
       You will have the sensation of your physical body being 
   asleep. 
       
       3. By means of imagination you must now think that your 
   astral 
      body, much
       the same as your mental body before, is
       being drawn out of your physical body by your willpower. The 
     shape 
      of the
       astral body must be equal to
       the shape of your mental and physical body. 
       
       4. Then unite yourself with your astral body by entering the 
      astral shape.
       When doing so you will 
       have a queer sensation, as though the astral body were not 
   quite 
      yours, and
       therefore you must at once consciously 
       connect your mental to your astral matrix. Otherwise you 
   would 
     not 
      succeed
       in keeping your astral body in your imagination, 
       the astral being constantly pulled towards your body as 
   though 
     an 
      invisible
       magnet were working on it. 
       
       If you watch your physical body during this exercise, you 
   will 
      realize that
       there are irregularities in your body's breathing. 
       But the moment you concentrate your thoughts on uniting with 
     your 
      astral
       body and on breathing regularly, you will bring
       yourself actually united with your astral body.
       
       5. Right from the moment you are thus uniting yourself with 
   your 
      astral body
       -- like a spirit beside your
       physical body -- do not watch anything else but the 
   breathing. 
      This exercise
       has to be repeated until you
       have become accustomed to breathing in your astral body 
   which 
     you 
      have drawn
       out of your physical
       body and with which you have united yourself spiritually.
       
       As you see, it is only conscious breathing in the astral 
   body 
     that 
      brings
       about this separation of the astral
       matrix. If, by repeated practice, breathing in the mental as 
     well 
      as the
       astral body has become quite
       familiar to you, you may go another step forward. If you 
   begin 
      breathing in
       your astral body, your physical
       body will stop breathing. Because of the separation of the 
      physical body
       from the astral shape, the former
       will lapse into a state of lethargy, a sort of morbid 
     drowsiness, 
      the limbs
       stiffening, the face turning pale
       just like a dead body. But as soon as you stop breathing 
   outside 
      your
       physical body, wanting to end your
       experiment, you will instantly notice your astral body, as 
   if 
      pulled by a
       magnet, at once being pulled into
       your physical body which now begins to breathe again 
   normally. 
     But 
      not
       before you spiritually transfer
       your mental body, i.e., your consciousness to the physical 
   body, 
      so that the
       astral and the mental body
       reassume their physical shape, will you recover your senses 
   and 
      gradually
       come round again.
       
       What we usually call dying is the same process with the only 
      difference that
       the matrix between the
       physical and the astral body is destroyed. In the case of 
   normal 
      death, the
       astral matrix between the
       physical and the astral body has been broken in two by a 
   lethal 
      disease or
       for some other reason, and
       therefore the astral body together with the mental body, 
   having 
      lost its
       footing in the physical body, has to
       emanate automatically from the latter whether willingly or 
      unwillingly.
       During this process, breathing is
       transferred to the astral body without the astral body 
   becoming 
      conscious of
       it. That is why deceased
       being at first do not feel any difference between the 
   physical 
     and 
      the
       astral body. They will come to
       realize it gradually as soon as they notice that the 
   material 
     body 
      no longer
       is of any use to them, and that
       the astral body is subject to very different rules (the laws 
   of 
      the akasa
       principle).I have written about this
       already in the previous chapters concerning the astral 
   plane. 
      Consequently
       the practice of sending the
       astral body out deliberately is an imitation of the process 
   of 
      dying. This
       evidently proves how near you come 
       to the border between actual life and what we call death 
   when 
     you 
      practice
       such exercise. 
       Therefore, proceed with caution.
       
       Provided the magician has got a perfect control of sending 
   out 
     his 
      astral
       body, (1) the fear of death has
       become absolutely superfluous, and (2) the magician does 
   know 
      exactly the
       process of his dying as well as
       the place where he is going after stripping off the mortal 
   frame.
       
       After frequently practicing the deliberate separation of the 
      astral body
       from the physical one, breathing in
       your astral shape will become a matter of routine, so that 
   you 
      will not
       notice it any more and you will
       experience the same sensations in the astral body as if you 
   were 
      still in
       your physical body. If you wish to
       return to your physical body, you have to hold the breath 
      deliberately back
       in the astral body so that the
       astral body is able to disentangle from the mental body and 
   to 
      reassume the
       shape of the physical body. In
       this moment when the astral body reassumes the physical 
   shape, 
     the 
      body will
       automatically begin to
       breathe again, which makes the return into the physical body 
      possible. This
       should always be considered
       first.
       
       Being subject to very different laws, the mental body does 
   not 
      breathe in
       the same rhythm as the material
       body does in connection with the astral body. Only if you 
   have 
      become
       accustomed to the astral and the
       mental body going out from and returning to the physical 
   body, 
     so 
      that you
       can do so as often as you
       please, considering the precautionary measures with respect 
   to 
     your
       breathing, only then are you truly able
       to withdraw successively from the physical body. In the 
     beginning 
      of this
       preliminary exercise, do not
       stray far from the side of your body. Thus you have the 
      opportunity to stand
       beside your physical body or
       to take up its actual posture, the asana.
       
       An entirely different exercise is to observe not merely the 
     body, 
      but to
       take notice of the immediate
       surroundings, similarly to sending out the mental body. 
   After 
     all, 
      it is the
       same process as mental
       wandering; you should feel, hear and perceive every single 
     object, 
      with the
       difference however, that the
       mind is in a way taking a robe with it - in our case, the 
   astral 
      body, which
       allows sort of a more physical
       effect. Supposing you will pay a visit somewhere in your 
   mental 
      shape only
       in order to observe an event
       that might cause a good or bad psychic sensation, you can 
     neither 
      perceive
       nor feel it in your mental body,
       nor can you be influenced in any way. On the other hand, if 
   you 
      make the
       same experiment with your
       astral body, you will perceive it as intensely as if you 
   used 
     your 
      physical
       body.
       
       In the next exercise you will learn to withdraw gradually 
   from 
      your body,
       step by step. At first you will
       feel as it were pulled back from your physical body by an 
     invisible
       attractive power, similar to that which
       a magnet exerts on iron. This is to be interpreted by the 
   fact 
      that the bond
       between the astral and the
       physical body id fed, preserved and kept in balance by the 
   most 
      subtle
       fluid. By performing the exercises
       of sending out the astral body, you are committing a 
   deliberate 
      act against
       the lawfulness of the natural
       elements in your body, which must be overcome. Consequently 
   the 
      movement of
       your astral body
       requires a greater effort than if you would move away with 
   you 
      mental body
       alone. This is the reason
       why you should draw away from your body only a few steps at 
     first, 
      and
       return to it instantly. Because
       the magnetic attractive power is constantly pulling and 
      influencing you, it
       will provoke various feelings in
       your astral body, such as the fear of death and the like. 
   These 
      feelings
       must be overcome at any event.
       
       Having advanced to this point, you should master all these 
      occurrences. 
       
       Extend the distance from your physical body with every new 
      exercise. 
       
       As time goes on you will be able to cover greater and 
   greater 
      distances. 
       And the farther you move your astral body from your physical 
     body, 
      its
       attractive power will
       become all the weaker. Later on, when traveling very far, 
   you 
     will 
      find it
       really difficult to return to your
       body. This will become a tricky problem for the magician, 
   mainly 
      if he is
       wandering about in planes or
       regions that allure him so much that he is beginning to feel 
   a 
      little sad at
       the very idea of having to return
       to his own body. Here you see that the magician must be 
     absolutely 
      the
       master of his feelings, because as
       soon as he gets accustomed to the idea of feeling quite at 
   home 
     in 
      his
       astral body, not only on the physical
       level but also on the astral plane, usually he becomes weary 
   of 
      life,
       feeling inclined never to return to his
       physical frame. A longing will overcome him to destroy by 
   sheer 
      force the
       bond of life that still ties him
       to his physical frame. Doing so would mean to commit suicide 
   in 
      the same way
       as on the physical body.
       It is quite understandable that the temptation to commit 
   such a 
      suicide is
       very strong,
       especially if the magician is nearly pining away for grief 
   in 
     the 
      physical
       world after all the blissfulness he
       experienced on the other planes.
       
       Having made good progress in these exercises concerning the 
      sending out of
       the astral body, so that he can
       cover any distance, the magician now has the opportunity to 
   use 
      this ability
       for manifold tasks. He can
       transfer himself anywhere with his astral body, wherever he 
     likes 
      to be, he
       can treat sick people by
       accumulating and condensing the magnetic or electric fluids 
   in 
     the 
      astral
       body and conveying them to the
       patients. The treatment with the astral body if by far more 
      pervasive and
       effective than by the mere
       thought-transference or the mental wandering, because the 
   fluids 
      the
       magician is working with will
       become effective only on the sick person's corresponding 
   plane.
       
       The magician can exert a lot of other influences too. He can 
      materialize
       himself with the help of the earth element, 
       which he condenses in his astral body on the astral plane 
   under 
      the very
       nose of an experienced adept as well as 
       a layman to such a degree that he can be seen, heard and 
     perceived 
      with the
       physical eyes. 
       The issue in this respect depends on the duration of the 
     training 
      and on the
       capacity of the accumulation 
       of the earth element in the astral body. 
       
       It is obvious that the magician also can perform physical 
   acts 
      with the help
       of his astral body.
       Producing phenomena - as adepts see them - such as knocking 
      sounds, and
       influence on terrestrial affairs,
       etc., find a satisfactory explanation here. Really and 
   truly, no 
      limits
       exist for a magician, and it is entirely
       up to him in which line he specializes. In any case, he 
   knows 
      exactly how to
       manage all these things, such
       as how to condense only one part of the body, i.e., one 
   hand, 
      while the rest
       remains astral. If he is able to
       accelerate the electronic vibrations of an object with the 
   help 
     of 
      his
       imagination, he will also manage to
       "spirit" away any objects corresponding to the measure of 
   his 
      forces and his
       development, before the eyes
       of other people and transfer them to the astral plane. In 
   these 
      instances
       the material objects are no longer
       subject to the material laws but will become astral. 
   Therefore 
     it 
      is a mere
       trifle for the magician to
       transfer such objects to the farthest distance with the aid 
   of 
     his 
      astral
       body, and to bring them back again
       to their original form. 
       
       From a layman's point of view, such phenomena seem to be 
     chimera, 
      but any
       experienced magician 
       will easily be able to produce such and even more 
   astonishing 
      phenomena that
       otherwise might be spoken of as sheer miracles. 
       But as you have gathered from what I have explained up to 
   now, 
      these
       phenomena are no miracles, 
       for in the true sense of the word, miracles do not exist at 
   all.
       The magician recognizes the Higher powers and their laws, 
   and he 
      knows how
       to utilize them.