Question #3430: Should we be proud of Rome?

[AskSatanOperator]

I had a debate the other day with some leftist and he was very "educated", in the modern sense, on history. He said that Rome should be nothing to be proud of because they only cared about conquest and expansion and the expense of others. He also brought up how both the Greeks and the Romans had slaves, which to him, diminishes their accomplishments.

He paralleled that to how whites today are still oppressive in western capitalist society.

Didn't Rome also have their own mystery schools, and extreme (In a good way) religious views that show true Aryan spirit?

I always thought Rome was a shining example for the white race could accomplish. Am I wrong?

 

[MiniMe3388]

On slavery:

In Ancient Greek and Roman mindset of slavery, and surely this will just cause a cataclysmic brain explosion to many, "Slavery" was really way better than bottom rung serfdom in many other professed "Free" civilization, in the sense, that many slaves were actually "Safeguarded" in their existence or otherwise. If you just cross over the "Ancient Greek slave" with the people who say they are "Free" today, maybe the slave has a way better deal than many of the "Free people".

 

[serpentwalker666]

I had a debate the other day with some leftist and he was very "educated", in the modern sense, on history. He said that Rome should be nothing to be proud of because they only cared about conquest and expansion and the expense of others. He also brought up how both the Greeks and the Romans had slaves, which to him, diminishes their accomplishments.

He paralleled that to how whites today are still oppressive in western capitalist society.

Didn't Rome also have their own mystery schools, and extreme (In a good way) religious views that show true Aryan spirit?

I always thought Rome was a shining example for the white race could accomplish. Am I wrong?

Rome was a shining example of what the white race could accomplish. You are not wrong.

Mistakes such as having slavery were the case for many races and nations, this unfortunately occurred alot in many periods of history.

From what I understand though. By even slavery standards the Roman's were not as brutal with this as other nations in periods of history. It's still wrong of course. But something that should be noted.

You'll have many leftists who hate on civilization and refuse to see the positives. Many leftists the further left you go are very brainwashed into believing anything communist or socialist is good, and all white people should just die basically.

The right is also equally toxic. All of this is traps for people to fall into and is psychological warfare on people.

Rome was a very beautiful civilization. Much of it was carried over in concept with the founding fathers of United States. They intended to create a very beautiful nation as well.

Unfortunately the United States seems to be falling like Rome, which is really concerning. Even the interactions and things I deal with on a basis in America leave me very concerned for the future.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

There absolutely were not slaves in Rome in any way similar to what most modern people imagine. The word slave should not even be used because the definition is so different than what it used to mean.

Slave was the Roman word for Servant. These servants chose to do these jobs, and they were paid to do these jobs. And if they were not happy with the payment, they could choose to leave and work somewhere else instead. There was no restrictions on anyone's free will. Jobs that were generally considered as servant type jobs were things like maids, house keepers, chefs, baby sitters, and all types of teachers. These people would most often have the job of taking care of the children and teaching them all kinds of things as they grow up. Often this teacher was a young woman who would take care of the children in a motherly type way. And the servant was considered as part of the family, and was not treated any worse than any other family member. The servant lived in the house, received food and all other supplies just like any other family member, and was also being paid money for her work.

This work of babysitter/nanny/teacher, the work of a maid, and the work of a chef, are all jobs which have always existed and are still very common today in every country in the world. When these people are treated as part of the family, they are happy, and they are being paid for their work, obviously there is nothing wrong with this. There are many people who are both very skilled at these jobs, and enjoy doing them.


Don't waste your time debating communist jews who only care to purposefully lie about everything, purposefully try to erase all knowledge of history, and purposefully try to pretend that White people are evil. The jew's only purpose is to act like a jew, it is not able to act as a human. And it is not able to be honest at all about anything. The entire structure of a debate is entirely reliant on honesty and truth. For the jew who works by just repeatedly lying about everything, it is like trying to play chess with someone who just moves any piece anywhere without following any rules.

 

[Xenophon]

I had a debate the other day with some leftist and he was very "educated", in the modern sense, on history. He said that Rome should be nothing to be proud of because they only cared about conquest and expansion and the expense of others. He also brought up how both the Greeks and the Romans had slaves, which to him, diminishes their accomplishments.

He paralleled that to how whites today are still oppressive in western capitalist society.

Didn't Rome also have their own mystery schools, and extreme (In a good way) religious views that show true Aryan spirit?

I always thought Rome was a shining example for the white race could accomplish. Am I wrong?

"Slave" was not necessarily a put-upon individual in Rome. For example, the philosopher Epictetus, one of Stoicism's big three names, was legally a slave; vocationally a teacher and author.

As for Rome and military conquest, the vast majority of the subject peoples came to love Roman ways. The erstwhile rabbi, Paul of Tarsus bragged about holding Roman citizenship all the while subverting the Empire's spiritual foundations. Roman rule was far more benefit than curse.

Presently the enemy is carrying a quiet anti-Roman push as part of its Kulturkampf. On social media broad hints are being dropped that men think about old Rome "too often."

 

[SyraS_666]

The only thing the ancient Greeks and Romans may have done wrong was to be too soft on the Jews.