Many years of my life I have experienced nearly excruciating levels of physical pain from issues and all over pain in my entire body to the point a few times it has lead me to collapse, and unable to function. While I have made great progress in where I was, much needs fixed and it will take...

Recently I have been pushed by the Gods and especially my Guardian Demon Andras to leave my workplace, as I was deceived by my boss and various people in management. I went there out of curiosity to be involved in electrical engineering and some IT work but I was strung along and the goal posts...

Hello. Recently I have been brushing up on my system administration skills and technical knowledge in hopes of landing a decent IT job and leaving the manufacturing industry as it's much to demanding on my less then optimal health. I have been just really trying to see what I'd want to do with...

I have been doing everything within my power on a physical and spiritual level to maintain stable employment while also working on my spiritual advancement, and studying and trying to look into better employment. Recently I have been hired on to a fairly decent manufacturing company, and they...

Hello, I wanted to say thank you all for the advice given these past few times I've posted. It's given me hope and made me at least hang on with the circumstances I'm dealing with. I've taken much of the advice given to me by Guardian Blitzkreig and other members. I've applied to like 30...

Hello my satanic family. I have been working for awhile now, and I have had chronic illness from the time I was very young. I have a disabled wife and two beautiful children. And I'm fighting like hell to just keep my head above water. I work until my literally hands bleed, yet I don't know...

Something that is important is to mindful of how things are in your currently life. The Gods are always here for us and guide us not only spiritually, but in all aspects. As we advance. Everything will become increasingly clear in what aspects of our existence we have to work on. Whether that...

As we go through life and our advancement, certain things are highlighted to us as we go along. I've put alot of energy over many years into curing congenital, chronic illness, and I still have work to do in this regard. We have to sometimes come to grips with the circumstances we are...

Hello my satanic brothers and sisters. Between this manufacturing job, tending to my family, working on my relationship with my partner, attending to everything else in my life including working on my health, I have not had much time to be involved here on the forums. I have my energy and time...

Hello, I had been studying with the very little time I have a few books on programming. There's a few different books I wanted to recommend to anyone in a similar situation where they are reading software documentation and studying programming languages. Object Oriented Programming in C++ -...

Through observing the manufacturing and studying computers and most of the electrical appliances and systems we use, it's fairly apparent that things are made in a very toxic way and are very harmful to the environment. In time this will change. As nearly everything regarding computers and...

I was very curious about finding out my best possible career path in life using astrology. I am not sure where to begin and am curious on the thoughts of our members who are experienced in astrology.

Based on this thread here I noticed some of our family struggling as noted by a few replies - https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=88890 I want to try to offer some advice here in this post on how we can better manage life as the work we live in currently provides little if any time...

Recently I had an experience with Andras that inspired me to write this post. I have struggled for a long time with employment because of other issues I have relayed in previous posts of mine. I was meditating yesterday and I felt Andras strongly. He started letting me know that everything...

I have recently gotten a good full time job with potentjal benefits and the whole 9 yards. For the first time in my life I have achieved financial security. However I unfortunately still feel very depressed, like all this time and energy I'm putting into this is a huge strain on myself. I am...

Hello. I am making this post to just see if anyone has any strategies or suggestions for coping with chronic fatigue and pain. I am doing everything I can on a spiritual and physical aspect to overcome all this. Ive experienced health changes. But the issues are chronic and take time to heal...

Enki of Eridu, Who's kingdom laid among the Chaldeans, Was left cold to the touch and eroded by time, Ravaged by war, blood shed and deceit, The passage of centuries and many a seasons, Long since the scribe foretold and wrote your revelations, Enscribed on lapis lazuli tablets, Encased waiting...

Hello, I wanted to start creating a comprehensive list of books for various intellectual subjects like computer science, mathematics, chemistry, and related. I was planning on digging through the web and making a giant list of good ones for SS to refer to. I would do this very gradually and do...

I've noticed lately there's just an influx of old topics being bumped. I've commented on one or two simply by accident because if this. Anyone have any idea what's going on?

I have wanted to avoid making this post. I hate feeling weak, but I feel this all needs to be said. However the situation im dealing with has progressed in such a bad direction for my loved ones and those close to me, and myself that I do not know where else to turn. I have been desperately...

We must always keep in mind how our collective efforts here are helping us and affecting the world. To say the world is in a sorry state currently is an understatement. But everything we are doing with our advancement, and fighting the rot that is the enemy is making a HUGE DIFFERENCE. We must...

I'm going to share a meditation I've done for awhile with the Astral body. I'm posting this here in case someone finds this useful. The objective of this is NOT to fully astral project. A light trance should be enough. The objective of this is to be conscious in your astral body sensing...

Every once in awhile we have someone come to our holy temple of Satan, who is just a passing guest. They peer upon the divine light, but do not comprehend or understand it's importance. On this path it's important to reflect on why what we do here is so important, as sometimes we are confronted...

Hello. I wanted to let my fellow brothers and sisters in Satan know that my posting here in the forums may be sporadic for awhile. I have alot of different things in my life taking up my time, to where I can barely breathe with all the responsibilities and where i am directing energy and time...

Hello. I wanted to make a thread here where we discuss about various workings, guidance and strategies that could be used for assisting fellow SS with achieving financial success and overcoming barriers to this. Ill share that oftentimes financial workings led me to be put into situations and...

Experiences with demons can take time. You will want to make sure you are meditating regularly and working on your chakras and Astral senses. The mind and soul takes time to open to the experiences. You'll have either next to no experience, slight sensitivity or you will be open to the demon...

Is bilocation a siddhi? I have had little success with astral projection over the years. But have experienced being in a normal state not in a trance, and also concious on the astral when meditating, with my astral body in another location, moving, hearing and seeing things. I am curious if...

I have decided it would be best to share how in life, just how bad we can get knocked down so others understand it's never okay to just give up and let suffering overtake them. Sometimes becuase of karmic imprints and astrological circumstances present at birth,, we may get royally fucked for a...

Hello everyone. I am going to try to keep this a bit restrained in how I describe things, for the privacy of this person involved, and their relation to me. However this is important I make a post about this. I have a loved one who is very close to me that has struggled for 3 to 4 years...

When we have Satan we have everything. Even through destructive planetary transits, chaotic external circumstances, and problems both external and internal. We can overcome anything in our lives as long as we continue to fight. Workings and endless things can be done to fix seemingly...

Often times in life, even with consistent effort in our advancement and all areas of our life, we are sometimes at a point where we don't know how to proceed. Whether that be a career path, in our advancement, relationships, our health, education, anything really. The more we take time to...

Satan means no friendly association with people who are muslim, christian, or jews. Keep in mind when and where the Al jilwah was written. The time period around where this is from is when Muslims were going on an Islamic rampage everywhere in a fury of bloodshed. While statements that...

Hello, I have been studying mathematics and programming for awhile now. I don't have a whole lot of time to study between everything going on in my life, but have been trying to make as much progress as possible so I can have a good career so I can then focus alot more of my attention here on...

News of trains derailing in various US states and spills of chemicals has been circulating around. Warehouse fires, along with a bromine spill. The media has been very silent on this, while information has circulated around and people have been talking about this. This is a large chain of...

I noticed there's a few articles and guides that have come up about switching to Linux to ditch windows, they all are very good and offer a great solution to people looking to escape billy gates shackles to get to freedom. Ubuntu and Linux Mint are great for beginners, and intermediate, normal...

I wanted to write this as a reminder for fellow Satanists to not neglect deep soul cleaning, as many issues we experience in life, and obstacles are connected to this. Lately I've been doing SURYAH 218 repetitions, three times a day and have noticed some changes in my psychic senses, as things...

Hello. I wanted write a helpful post for SS for are interested in becoming sys admins, and or programmers. This will not be a guide, but a couple pointers for people who want to do self study. We live in a world unfortunately, where going and getting an education from a college or vocational...

Hello. I have been struggling for the past few years with holding down employment, and having more money to create a future for my family. I feel I should add some context so this situation is fully understood. I have a wife and going to be now, two children. My wife has an income and is...

I took some time to focus on some other areas of my life. My education and health, so that when things are better for me and I'm not sick often, and financially drained, that I can contribute and be more involved with the Joy of Satan and projects. Along with just trying to advance further...

Suffering is a natural part of existing for all forms of life, occurring from the smallest creature to the mightiest of human beings who deal with very bad circumstances we often have to endure in our lives. Some experience more suffering, others less. Many factors contribute to this whether...

The enemy has wrecked our world in so many innumerable ways. One of these ways I'd like to mention is the outlook, and perspective Gentiles have as a people towards labor and work in our civilizations, because of the enemy being parasitic and taking advantage of the fruits of our advancements...

You don't need to wake the snake. You need to meditate. https://joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Satanic_Meditation.html In time you can wake the snake. It doesn't like getting woke up early.

Dr. ShekelShlomoHooknose in his big office: "oy vey... the goyim are protesting globally.. SHUT IT DOOOWWNN... nothing to see here goy, just go get your medical marijuana and brain chip once it comes out... be a good goy now.."...

For the past two years. This is the second time, every time it hits Janurary, February, March, everything that could possibly go wrong happens, regarding living situations, finances, relationships, everything. Like my life crumbles completely apart in this time frame. This is the second year in...

I've noticed alot of this on the forums for awhile where a small disagreement, argument progresses into a dumpsterfire clusterfuck where members call eachother names, and call eachother jews over petty arguments. I've been guilty of not handing myself properly in some disagreements as well...

https://www.post-gazette.com/local/city/2022/01/28/pittsburgh-bridge-collapse-forbes-braddock-avenue-point-breeze-squirrel-hill/stories/202201280075 Absolutely appalling. Having a bridge just break apart because no one cared to do proper maintenance checks. People just going about their day...

I wanted to make a thread for our members to discuss, share information anonymously, on the situation of the economic state of the United States, and what the likelihood it will be, based on many factors, of the USA getting progressively worse and gradually going on the downward spiral of...

I have ran into this lately, where I end up nearly in a state of crippling depression nearly anywhere I go, from the negative energy I pick up on people, in town, anywhere really. I've done alot of aura cleaning, been trying to tune it out, however it's gotten to a bad point. I'm still...

The absence of High Priestess Maxine , and High Priestess Shannon, I notice how all the sermons are written by High Priest Hooded Cobra. This short staffed situation, has left me in a position where I'm wondering if us dedicated members could help in some way? I know Hooded Cobra, you...

https://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/ I found this awhile link awhile back and was wondering if eventually, we could eventually have some sort of project where dedicated members who are financially able to, along with having the time and experience, host joy of Satan and affiliated site...

I have been in a position for awhile now where I have been able to receive very blatant and strong communication from the Gods, Satan, and a few high ranking demons. They have done everything from show me visions of the future, technology, and guided me to circulate the kundalini energy...

Hello. The other day I was trying to go to sleep, and I experienced a surge of kundalini energy, and then felt myself in, and saw this very magnificent city on the ocean, a bronze pier, architecture that resembled older time periods, giant gold statues of a goddess holding a lantern and the...

Having just become a father recently, I am very much a mix of emotions. Satans providence in our lives shines extremely strongly the more we advance. I have had a very hard life health wise, and in explicitly, and miraculously so many factors in my life are lining up so my SS Wife, and me...

Do Satan and the gods and goddesses of duat, have connections with allied forces that are drastically different species then us and the nordic species? I have had a few astral experiences and I have met beings that do not resemble the gods, or the enemy, while under the guidance of the gods in...

Deep in the underground rap scene of thugs and degenerated, completely immoral people, you'll find a few vile sick, depraved creatures. These are jews that are a very important example for gentiles of the jewish psyche, just how sick and depraved these beings really are. This is just the tip of...

Hello. I had a question about bilocation using the astral body, I'm hoping to understand this better. Based on my limited understanding, it seems to be entirely possible to project a part of the souls conciousness and one of its energetic sheaths (I'm assuming the astral body.), Onto the astral...

Hello, basically I have been having weird experiences with information and knowledge, that have led me to believe from a few things that have occured for me, that it's possible to absorb information from a giant, expansive source, without being in physical contact with for example, a book, the...

I had an extremely beautiful projection, remote viewing experience, at the hands of our gods. I wanted to share it with you all, as they gave me the okay. I was sitting in a chair meditating, and I had this strong pull in front of my body take place. Andras stood to my left and said he would...

I had a few questions about the kundalini energy as I am confused about a few things. I had a kundalini awakening last year and was guided to raise the energy up at specific times by the gods, by using an ouija board, and tuning into their sigils, and verifying it was them. Often this was at...

Hello everyone. I am a white male who has studied and taken a deep interest in the georgian people, culture and country for quite a long time. There is something deep inside that draws me to study this country, it's people, something to do with past lives, possibly. If theres anyone that can...

Hello. I was in a very deep spiritual relationship with a woman and she also committed to spiritual satanism beside me. To make a long story short, between the two of us, we had established a very strong connection to our guardians and the gods. This later extended to the gods specifically...

Hello everyone, I have been having this issue with the kundalini for awhile, I've read before about how it can be normal, and the kundalini can bring up alot of things in the mind. To make a long story short im far along in circulating the energy, not going to say exactly where I'm at in the...

This whole situation enrages me, looking and seeing all these posts because these are spammed and unfortunately make it through, this is appalling, a blasphemy to satan and the gods, trying to crash and spam our humble abode of divine knowledge. It's fairly obvious now the enemy has rolled out...

I have been undergoing a bad neptune transit. And had a major kundalini experience earlier this year, and ever since neptunes influence has been stronger on me, ive undergone a rough patch of having bad, strong urges, and have consumed alcohol on a much to regular basis. I have done a working...

I had a question regarding whether it would be okay for an SS to make a profession out of teaching yoga, just to help people do the poses properly, and hold classes, for people who like to attend yoga in a group setting. I ask this question because i remember its been stated alot these yoga...

I have been thinking lately on what could done in the future, for having some sort of community center, like a learning center, with various oppurtunities to study about old vedic culture, ancient hinduism, paganism. This was something im curious about asking the gods about, as i know we have...

I have studied foreign language every once in a while, I have been somewhat curious about arabic, But i wonder that since the quran and islam is deeply involved, and energetically tied in somewhat probably with the arabic language, whether it would be advised to avoid it? Might be a stupid...

I had a heart condition at birth, called wolff parkinson white i had surgery for, that i elaborated about in earlier posts, I now have a regular heart Rhytmn, which is abnormally fast. The calcium channel blockers worked for me, but come with chronic digestive side effects. I was wondering...

Besides the normal schedule of The final Rtr everyday, Online activism, Meditations and yoga, The forum is only missing one thing.... New Sloth Talez Of Course !!!!666 Maybe one day, When HP Mageson, Which basically we could give him the mantle, The Lord of Sloths, has time, He can bless...

I have had this for a long time, almost visions at times of things in my minds eye, but the other thing is ive wondered for a long time and hsve issues with, is i feel i get confused what is an actual vision, picture in front of my third eye, and sometimes my thoughts. Anyone had any similar...

Hello Satanic family, i want to make this short and thorough. Basically i have some high heart rate and blood pressure issues, and insomnia, that are manageable at times, sometimes unpredictable, and some days im so tired im almost useless. and i feel this would inhibit my ability to work...

i was curious if their is some herbs to help with allergies, as im very allergic to pet hair, dust, pillows, my hair probably, no idea. But i wake up alot of nights with a stuffy nose and barely sleep anymore because of it. and half of these allergy meds you can buy, none work to allieviate this

I dont really have any words for how much this "EA Koetting" guy disgusts me. Some commerciallized "Ultra Mega Strunng Grimorieezzz" Like... Dont even know where to begin. How many stupid, beyond idiotic, appalling videos of him trying to just call up the demons and bother them incessantly...

America, I love the freedom and everything it brings, and i do not take what our founding fathers fought for, for granted. but what ive wanted to make this post about. its almost as if i feel a deep longing from consistent meditation to find somewhere i belong. not only a culture i can relate...

I have a combination of genetic tachycardia, with chronic insomnia that has been ongoing now for a few years. i barely sleep most nights and have constant trouble trying to get back on my feet, Its as if im backed against a wall and feel like i canot escape, these issues impact my ability to...

I am writing this mainly because ive had some serious fatigue, lapses in concentration, and overall lack of sensitivity to meditations for some time now. Ive had this issue where i will be very tired for weeks, months, and just not sleep restfully. And then one day out of the blue ill usually...

Ive had inappropriate sinus tachycardia for awhile. Im curioups as to whether it is related to a pattern of blood and yin deficiency ive had from insomnia related issues. Im currently taking a blood tonic, and might try taking a yin replenishmpent tonic with herbs for yin, i understand it may...

I have been noticing sometimes, that i can almost feel an energy within everything. I know about the life force and all. But i have lately been able to feel an energy, radiating from just about everything, solid metal, wood, trees, cement, plastic, decaying matter, everything. Its as if i can...

I have had chronic fatigue for quite some time now. I do not feel rested after sleeping 8 hours or 7 and I am falling asleep by 4pm in the afternoon. I have been taking a small dosage of a beta blocker (25mg) for the time being to help with inappropriate sinus tachycardia, I'm aware beta...

I know levitation has been a topic a few times before. And that it's something that requires an immense amount of energy. And also that invoking air could also cause it to happen. And HPS Maxine has mentioned in a sermon that areas with a strong electromagnetic field greatly contribute to it...

My friend, someone I met in the past few months has a rare genetic eye disorder where she is gradually going blind. It is called retinitis pigmentosa. Is there anything anyone knows that can be done for this from a physical(not spiritual) standpoint? I wanted to try and help prevent her from...

I'm making this topic to clarify I've completely come to my senses. And am not longer going to be ignorant or stupid to natures laws. As those of you know, read my other topic. I was put in a situation/relationship with someone who was mixed race. Which the conclusion of that gave me more...

I'm just going to get straight to the point. The first person I ever loved and still deeply care about is not someone of my own race. And is biracial. Of both white and black race. I am white. The reason I am writing this is I feel terribly conflicted inside. More so then I have ever felt in my...

I been dealing with insomnia on and off for a few cycles. I finally broke down from dealing with it as I got acupuncture done and life got to me and it's been rough again. And my heart rate has been usually 100-110 on days even when I start sleeping better... I went to a doctor and had an EKG...

I've been going to an acupuncturist and she has been helping me with yin deficiency from insomnia that got out of hand. I mention this because at 4am every morning Its like I wake up and all I can think about is Satan, the gods, the war, and the kundalini. It's like I wake up and my head is...

To make a long story short I fell off the wagon with life and sleep and responsibilities in general. I kept pushing and pushing, and I just broke down. And ended up in a stagnation my meditations, and had to quit my yoga as I was so exhausted I could do anything but stare at the wall for hours...

I feel I have a hiatal hernia simply because it has gotten very hard for me to physically eat enough. I end up eating throughout the day, but when i eat i get a palpitations. I have took into consideration centralforces advice to exercise more. But depending on the day it's like there's a this...

I've been experiencing a constant burping and belching and like trapped air in my stomach and esophagus for awhile now.I've coped with it for awhile. But now it causes me problems sleeping.I sorted out the other issues with anxiety and exercising more to get the blood and chi to move to help...

around a week or so ago, I started experiencing an intense expanded awareness. where I felt my chakras and aura and sushumna nadi all the way from my base to crown chakra. and other people's energy with little effort. then as abruptly as this happened.... it seemed to fade. And now I'm back to...

before I get into this I'd like to clarify. I don't mean the psychoactive compound THC in cannabis that makes you stoned and possibly completely retarded. I mean the cannabidol which is supposed to be the non-psychoactive chemical responsible for a relaxing type effect. it doesn't have any real...

I have had issues with repressed anger most of my life, and hatred and all these things, the meditations and SATANAMA bring it all to the surface. And I don't fully understand how to let it out so to say. It just gives me chest pains if I try to let it out intensely. If I just completely let go...

I've been only able to sleep maybe four hours a night for the past week. today I was so tired and was going to take a nap and was physically unable to do kundalini yoga. And as soon as I laid down, I started to twitch and feeling a burning in my tailbone and involuntarily putting my tongue onto...

I was curious on any recommendations for people who have a hard time with getting decent nutrient absorption. I dont eat like I should all the time, as in some junk here and things like that. But I try to keep unhealthy crap to a bare minimum. I've always been a very thin man. Ever since I was...

I usually only do a few mantras of satanama into all my chakras in the morning. And thaur, or Sanskrit mantras later in day. I find it hard to breath somedays, so I compensate by doing by drawing energy into all the chakras. and couple other And then do two rounds of yoga a day. I am a very Vata...

This isnt my experience. But was a question to wonder what other SS think. If someone was paralyzed. From the waist down. Depending even if the spine was snapped in half. I still feel. For some outlandish thought. That a someone in a situation like that. If they diligently applied themselves to...

I have noticed various symptoms that make me almost certain that I am going through a kundalini awakening. Energy surge, I've never had before, great shifts in energy.. altered states of awareness, a change in awareness of life, reality, understanding... extremely vivid dreams. major question...

I was wondering if anyone else here experiences this. It's almost like a deep coldness when it comes to expressing certain emotions, such as happiness, and at times concern for others you know you care about, but the emotion that should be there, in certain instances, is either very faint, hard...

Hello everyone. I have been dealing with now sleep that is just unmanagable. I did yin yoga last night and took melatonin, relaxed for hours, ive done everything i could. I finally get to sleep and its for maybe three hours around 12 and i wake up at 4 wide awake unable to go back to sleep. Ive...

Hello. ive been reading all over the internet on the topic of exercise.. And i am curious on what is ideal. For good cardiovascular health, good health, and longevity in general. As i have been not very good at strenous exercise lately. i go for walks through the woods, and to stores near me...

This may seem rather odd but i dont know how prevalent this in people in general. Ever since i was young i have not been able to keep a decent weight. As a child i was like a skeleton. Pale and all. now i at least have a healthy glow and some extreme inner strength. But it has been a struggle...

Hello. First off id like to say i feel i make to many topics. I truly do not mean to. But. Lately ive had insomnia that has spanned for months. Ill sleep good for a week or so. Then im hit with crippling iinsomnia that keeps me up until 6 in the morning for a day or two... im unsure if its...

As for changing my diet. I usually would snack on stupid things when i am stressed, junk food, crackers, and sometimes on ocassion make not good choices in my health, not to an extreme degree. Just not paying attention at times. But the biggest game changer. Is me cutting everything like that...

As for consistency. Is it normal for one to experience lack of energy, fatigue most days. When one is extremely consistent with meditations and yoga everyday..? As with knowing when my energies drop is rather hard to take notice of.

question on congenital heart arrhytmias... would it possible for an intake of minerals. As in taking a supplement. Would it be possible. For the body to display slight side effects. as in changes in heart rhytmn. from having been deficient in magnesium for heart function. And taking it later on...

I have been dealing with this damn insomnia just about every night. I do my best to cope with it. I can lay awake for ten hours and my body refuses to shut down. at times ive gotten desperate. And taken small amounts of benzodiazepine garbage in order to get some sleep at least. I feel like i...

Hello Everyone. I have been having a long battle with insomnia for three to four days. Still sleeping in small intervals. Ive resorted to using an extremely small amount of a benzodiazepine. Because the sleep deprivation has been atrocious. Making it hard to do anything. I am well aware of the...

Void meditation is hard at times. not tuning everything out. I can do that, getting gradually better at that. But everytime i try to go into a state of focus like this. i get an ache in my brain. And it feels like im close to my head splitting open, And the astral seems very close, as in... i...

I seemed to of had a misaligned tailbone, either from past injury im not quite sure. Somehow a couple days ago i moved in such a way that my tailbone shifted into a different position. Hard to describe. Before i could touch the tip of the bone. Now how its situated. feels more natural but some...

Hello. Ill make this rather brief. Was just curious if their can be side effects of supplements. Such as dizziness. Almost like vertigo. I went to make eggs this morning and while making them i feel dizzy like i was going to fall over. I ate the eggs and i feel better. The supplement was...

Hello, i have finally got around to ordering a magnesium supplement. Ive paid better attention to my diet more, and more observant of my body in general, i have had a cardiac ablation in the past, for a life threatening condition, and i am perfectly fine and cured now with that. But as for...

Starting three days ago, on the first day, i finished my yoga and my entire body felt light, light as a feather. Day two, it progressed more and i felt slightly less light somewhat, but still less heavy, now day three. I can only describe this as. I cannot feel my entire spine, and my body is...

Hello fellow brothers and sisters. Ill try not to waste anyones time. I seem to have a slight pain towards my upper spine near the shoulders. it seems to slightly crack in that area when i lay down at night. And gives me problems when trying to sit properly. I do not have scoliosis in the...

Hello all. Ill make this rather brief i just have one question. I am currently brewing kombucha tea and drink it on a regular basis. It seems sometimes the tea puts me in almost a euphoric/slightly buzzed state for a couple minutes and i feel it could possible that it contains a certain amount...