Does marriage/relationship really matter?

[Proshat]

Greetings, brothers and sisters

I’ve been reflecting on this topic based on how often it’s mentioned here. Lately, I’ve noticed many people discussing it and expressing a strong desire for it.

Honestly, I struggle to understand why it matters so much or why so many are deeply invested. (This isn’t criticism—I’m genuinely trying to grasp what I might be missing before it’s too late.)

Isn’t marriage difficult? I also wrestle with the ethics of bringing children into this world, fearing they might suffer. It doesn't matter how powerful one is, we can't make sure children won't suffer.

Wouldn’t it be better to focus on pursuing spirituality (even if it takes 2000 years… )?

About relationship outside of marriage I seriously feel terrified to love someone because I will get hurt if it doesn't go well. I'm mentally drained and can't take drama or pain. I've never been in any relationships before.

I somehow love the peace and quiet in my life and think if I bring someone into my life my peace will be disturbed and my time wasted.

 

[Karnonnos [TG]]

Partnership is important for many reasons. It is natural for most in the soul to desire union with someone else. Everyone at some point desires union, even though a few do not give it much importance in their current lifetime and should be left alone (no one should be forced).

It is also important for most to be in love or to at least have some form of intimacy as far as age markers are concerned. I recently read a statistic that 'for the first time' the amount of adults into doing picnics with stuffed animals was higher than little girls who want to do it. I am seeing really distressing markers of diagnoses exploding. The infantilization and loneliness of adults is starting to create extreme mental illness that is even rivalling the type of distress seen in those who are violated.

However, these things are individual and no one here should be guilt-tripped into a relationship. A lot of Zevists who are strongly intellectual, fiery or airy cannot deal with being smothered by someone else 24/7 like what started to be the case beginning in the Victorian age for the middle classes. The relationship might have to be more intermittent, bombastic or transient than that. You may need space.

This was natural in history, most people worked long hours and men went off to war often. Others who might put relationships as #5 or #10 in their set of priorities in life may just need to take it all less seriously but try to balance this with acting ethically.

Others need deep and passionate soul union consisting of presence and for their lives to revolve around each other, constantly. They take relationships deathly seriously and see everything like an oath from a young age. That's also a model a lot of people here prefer.

Sometimes this is also pertinent to stages of life and development. People can go from one to the other, and it can depend on whom you meet and the energy represented in Synastry.

Certain suffering in children cannot be avoided just because of how bad or good the world is at any point. You could bring them into a completely 'perfect-looking' world and something horrible could still happen, which in a perverse way would be even more distressing for you compared to the 'perfection' surrounding you. The perceived badness of the world that comes from Saturnian limitation is an important learning curve. Circumstances curdling should not prevent the cake from being made...

 

[Proshat]

Partnership is important for many reasons. It is natural for most in the soul to desire union with someone else. Everyone at some point desires union, even though a few do not give it much importance in their current lifetime and should be left alone (no one should be forced).

It is also important for most to be in love or to at least have some form of intimacy as far as age markers are concerned. I recently read a statistic that 'for the first time' the amount of adults into doing picnics with stuffed animals was higher than little girls who want to do it. I am seeing really distressing markers of diagnoses exploding. The infantilization and loneliness of adults is starting to create extreme mental illness that is even rivalling the type of distress seen in those who are violated.

However, these things are individual. A lot of Zevists who are strongly intellectual, fiery or airy cannot deal with being smothered by someone else 24/7 like what started to be the case beginning in the Victorian age for the middle classes. The relationship might have to be more intermittent, bombastic or transient than that. You may need space.

This was natural in history, most people worked long hours and men went off to war often. Others who might put relationships as #5 or #10 in their set of priorities in life may just need to take it all less seriously.

Others need deep and passionate soul union consisting of presence and for their lives to revolve around each other, constantly. They take relationships deathly seriously and see everything like an oath from a young age. That's also a model a lot of people here prefer.

Sometimes this is also pertinent to stages of life and development. People can go from one to the other, and it can depend on whom you meet and the energy represented in Synastry.

Certain suffering in children cannot be avoided just because of how bad or good the world is at any point. You could bring them into a completely 'perfect-looking' world and something horrible could still happen, which in a perverse way would be even more distressing for you compared to the 'perfection' surrounding you. The perceived badness of the world that comes from Saturnian limitation is an important learning curve. Circumstances curdling should not prevent the cake from being made...

I grew up in a household where I was rarely spoken to. We hardly talk at all—everyone is extremely silent yet friendly.
I’ve never had any close friends, though I am friendly with everyone.
The silence in our house is so profound at times that it could drive even a sane person to madness.
I get seriously disturbed with sound and may even experience anxiety from it. We're not sick or autistic but this is how we live.

I don't think I have much to give to any child because children need to be talked to all the time. Silence will hurt them

 

[Aquarius]

I grew up in a household where I was rarely spoken to. We hardly talk at all—everyone is extremely silent yet friendly.
I’ve never had any close friends, though I am friendly with everyone.
The silence in our house is so profound at times that it could drive even a sane person to madness.
I get seriously disturbed with sound and may even experience anxiety from it. We're not sick or autistic but this is how we live.

I don't think I have much to give to any child because children need to be talked to all the time. Silence will hurt them

You know you can just heal from this?

 

[AFODO]

This is part of your advancement, and making a family is part of fulfilling your life. If you gonna only focus on spirituality and somehow ascend, the Gods will slap you back for another life until you achieve certain things materially as well. This has to do with the 12 houses. The monk type of life is really not the true spiritual way of living, it is for when you have completely fulfilled your life an duty.

 

[Proshat]

You know you can just heal from this?

I don't think there is a way.
I have a really sensitive nature and get disturbed so easily.
I have been this way since I was a baby.
It's not a mental issue or any form of physical problem.
I don't know why

 

[Aquarius]

I don't think there is a way.
I have a really sensitive nature and get disturbed so easily.
I have been this way since I was a baby.
It's not a mental issue or any form of physical problem.
I don't know why

Meditation and hypnosis can shape you into anything you want.

 

[Proshat]

This is part of your advancement, and making a family is part of fulfilling your life. If you gonna only focus on spirituality and somehow ascend, the Gods will slap you back for another life until you achieve certain things materially as well. This has to do with the 12 houses. The monk type of life is really not the true spiritual way of living, it is for when you have completely fulfilled your life an duty.

Thank you, but should everyone do it? Are there exceptions?

 

[CatDoll]

You can understand why you encarned for from ic and asc in your chard. Everyone is unique with their own way love.

 

[CatDoll]

You can understand why you encarned for from ic and asc in your chard. Everyone is unique with their own way love.

And their rulers (aspects,sings,degrees,stars and houses) btw

 

[Aquarius]

Thank you, but should everyone do it? Are there exceptions?

You're not forced, with spiritual advancement you will understand your path better. But must women's path generally is motherhood. This doesn't mean you will do nothing else all life.

 

[Lucifigus]

Greetings, brothers and sisters

I’ve been reflecting on this topic based on how often it’s mentioned here. Lately, I’ve noticed many people discussing it and expressing a strong desire for it.

Honestly, I struggle to understand why it matters so much or why so many are deeply invested. (This isn’t criticism—I’m genuinely trying to grasp what I might be missing before it’s too late.)

Isn’t marriage difficult? I also wrestle with the ethics of bringing children into this world, fearing they might suffer. It doesn't matter how powerful one is, we can't make sure children won't suffer.

Wouldn’t it be better to focus on pursuing spirituality (even if it takes 2000 years… )?

About relationship outside of marriage I seriously feel terrified to love someone because I will get hurt if it doesn't go well. I'm mentally drained and can't take drama or pain. I've never been in any relationships before.

I somehow love the peace and quiet in my life and think if I bring someone into my life my peace will be disturbed and my time wasted.

I dont know that others think, but my opinion is if you dont want to be married, you dont have to be. I want to have a girlfriend or a wife, but without children. You can also protect your children with mediations, for example you do AoP on them. Also when they grow up, you can teach them to do meditations and give them knowledge which writes on ToZ. But if you dont have a partner, living without sex is very unhealthy. If you want to have peace, you can have it.

 

[Edward Lonsa]

Greetings!

Absolutely EVERY house is transformative and can technically be fulfilled into profession 100%. I saw such successful examples. For example even 7th house which is about others almost totally, can be realized into working for society and humanity as a whole and DOES NOT demand unwanted sexual activity. The statements that "Gods will slap you back into reincarnation until you submit to unwanted lifestyle" is a LIE against our Gods. They do not force anyone into unwanted lifestyle. Also this is we who mold our fate not the Gods. They do not force anyone into anything. Instead they can help and teach people to realize in the sphere of their choice.

Forced marriage, private life intrusion, household restriction, pushing into deeply unwanted - all this does not come from our Gods. This is jewish instrument to rule the world: this is their ancient idea to manipulate genetics through power over Gentile private life:

White genocide detailed: Selective breeding in islam, communism and christianity. Full exposure of Nation of islam – White Death of islam

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You can find nosing into people's private life in every jewish program.

There ARE people both among men and women who have no sexual desires to other people, nor parenthood in their fate and do not want it in any way or form. It is clear written in ToZ that your private life is your own business, including staying virgin if this is your choice. These creative energies can be molded into any form not only physical parenthood. From the charts of great people you can see that ANY house does not boil down to any restricted sphere. With CR and stellium in 7th you can be childless worker for humanity and war lord, for example, and some great people were.

Also everything relations-related in fire and air is not always about disloyalty. Disloyalty is only worse and low grade ape jewish way things can go. In the higher forms this can be totally platonic intellectual relationships, devoid of any physicality or household, brotherly love etc. Not everyone wants physical aspect.

Relationship related Water Pillow of Magnum Opus includes love for humanity, animals, Gods and everything beautiful. It DOES NOT IN ANY WAY OR FORM boil down to sexual or marriage partners. 7th is about ANY relations INCLUDING platonic or even pure spiritual ones, those with Clergy, TG, Gods, humanity, race, blood relatives, nation, Ancestors, people from other centuries and planets etc. Essence of 7th is about self sacrifice and altruism not about any restricted type of relationship.

Family being mentioned among virtues is about how we realize these energies for Zevist goals IF we choose, not about forcing us if we do not.

Different people have different paths:

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