What happened to maxine?

[The Alchemist7 [SG]]

the point i was trying to make is that just because you're not aware of something doesn't mean that it's always non-existent.

This is why I asked the question initially. I am in all rights to believe something if I or anyone else cannot prove the contrary, I think is logical. It doesn't mean I am right though, it doesn't mean that what I believe is conform to reality, however in terms of established authentic Pagan organizations I think I am right in believing.

As for covens, if you mean covers of Spiritual Satanists, they are still under Joy of Satan, the only difference is that they formed a group of 13 people where they do things together, things that they would have been doing individually anyway like meditations and RTRs and so on. If a coven forms, is not a whole different group separated from Joy of Satan, is just a group of people that are `closer together` and syncronize and organize their JoS-related activities. I don't see what else they can do or how they can get very powerful, even the opposite, a coven of 13 members is a very small group that won't afford to expand in power and influence because they are very limited in terms of people and automatically resources available to use to expand.

As for `secrecy` of the covens, this is the exact opposite of what we are doing here. Joy of Satan exists to provide real ancient spirituality for all Gentiles in the world for free and re-establish contact between Gods and people again. This is the first time in thousands of years when spirituality has ever been available to people for free. I don't think many people realize how important is to break these thousands of years old walls that have separated people from their inner spiritual nature. The major problems that stop all people from getting this information is the enemy controlling the communication means, censoring our voices, punishing those who are discovered to ever come in contact with this information and so on.

What the enemy does with perpetual creation of mushroom groups is just a huge waste of time and is a repetitive attack by the enemies, either against JoS, or even against our broader worldview of Paganism. Whether or not this is claimed through covens or a very nonsense based group this is ending up to the same end.

I actually read before that if the jew world order would have gotten implemented, the jews planned to divide every single country in smaller territories and appoint regional leaders for exact this reason. Is much easier to control small territories that have no power to pose any major threat than to control a one powerful nation that comprises all these territories, which as one entity is much more powerful in terms of economy, millitary, political, intelligence and so on than all its comprising territories individually. For example what would have been United States if instead of a federal powerhouse there were 50 small independent states? I think this concept also applies in the discussion here.

WTF? Is this for real or are you joking?
I am done.

I have read the Al Jiwah in hungarian and I don’t remember anything like this. That last sentence is something that I won’t do and I have never felt anything like that from Satan.

I think you just overreacted. I don't know who translated Al Jilwah in Hungarian but it seems they didn't translate it properly. Are you trying to blame the entire JoS for this?

Obey my servants and listen to whatever they may dictate to you of the hidden things...

What are the appointed people of Satan dictating us to do? RTRs? Meditations? Spreading JoS to other people? I don't see what could be that bad to trigger such a reaction. You acted like this one sentence changed your life completely but nothing has changed in reality. You would still be doing RTRs and Meditations and probably activism as this is mainly what we are dictated to do. Such reaction is totally unjustified but I hope you realize that you are losing here, not us. Spiritual Satanism must go forward no matter what happens however you will lack spirituality in your life.

 

[NinRick]

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WTF? Is this for real or are you joking?
I am done.

I have read the Al Jiwah in hungarian and I don’t remember anything like this. That last sentence is something that I won’t do and I have never felt anything like that from Satan. I won’t obey to whatever the fuck dictated by on a faceless and nameless anonymous online forum. Don’t get me wrong, I do have respect for this forum, but it is too much and it will be too much for many other people on the spiritual path.

JoS will loose many people with this attitude. You can’t expect people to obey and follow whatever you dictate in this age. Individuality will become more important than before. This is the Age of Aquarious. People will less likely obey and follow dictations from an online forum anymore.

I would like to say a last thank you for Hoodedcobra because he was my inspiration at the beginning of my spiritual path. From now on I am officially an independent occultist.

Goodbye JoS

I think you are reacting drastically to something that is not, in reality, as limiting as you may believe. All this statement is saying is that Satan wants you to listen to those who carry out his will. If he sends a Demon to you, which tells you that you need to start working on your throat chakra, will you interpret this negatively?

What about those who worked with HPS Maxine and Cobra to develop the RTRs, including telling us that we need to be diligent with them? Similarly, HPS Maxine was asked to be strict with both her studies and meditation routine. Now, we all enjoy the fruits of her labor because of that task being fulfilled. All of this has increased your freedom, not limited it.

In regards to an anonymous forum, we know that the Clergy themselves are appointed and supported by the Gods. As far as me or others, then I don't believe you need to listen to them. By the way, JoS did not write the Al-Jiwah. It was dictated by others many centuries ago.

If it has caused you such stress that you are considering abandoning everyone here, then you should reach out to Satan to give you a better explanation of what his own words are supposed to mean, rather than go through with destructive and isolating actions.

You are using a quote from a text that was written ages ago to justify yourself as an unquestionable authority for us. It’s like you want Athenria to recognise you in those lines. This attitude reminds me of Christianity.

I don’t understand why going independently seen as destructive and isolating. JoS is not the only and single source of the occult knowledge, it never was. There is knowledge everywhere and our advancement is not up to one website. I wrote that I am leaving is to give feedback. People are leaving this site.

For the readers: Guys, you don’t have to follow every person who calms to be more advanced than you as your authority/spiritual leader/guru…etc.

The Joy of Satan is a highly spiritual and valuable resource for valid alchemical knowledge, knowledge about the Demons, magick and much more.

You are very naive if you believe you will find outside anything better. You will not. Most recourses are flat out wrong, fake and lie.

If you want to study the occult, you need to get books from the 1600‘s you can study the works of prince Gerber or Plato‘s work. Plato was a spiritual alchemist who was initiated by Lady Isis.

However, I am 100% sure you will have a very hard time to find valid material, and after that I am 666% sure you will never be able to really understand and fathom what these Scriptures are telling us. They wrote in a very secretive fashion so only very selected and Initiated few understand this.

The Joy Of Satan has this very knowledge, however, it is simply explained so every idiot understands it.

But not every idiot understands the real value of the Joy of Satan.

Have fun playing occultist.

 

[NinRick]

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I think you are reacting drastically to something that is not, in reality, as limiting as you may believe. All this statement is saying is that Satan wants you to listen to those who carry out his will. If he sends a Demon to you, which tells you that you need to start working on your throat chakra, will you interpret this negatively?

What about those who worked with HPS Maxine and Cobra to develop the RTRs, including telling us that we need to be diligent with them? Similarly, HPS Maxine was asked to be strict with both her studies and meditation routine. Now, we all enjoy the fruits of her labor because of that task being fulfilled. All of this has increased your freedom, not limited it.

In regards to an anonymous forum, we know that the Clergy themselves are appointed and supported by the Gods. As far as me or others, then I don't believe you need to listen to them. By the way, JoS did not write the Al-Jiwah. It was dictated by others many centuries ago.

If it has caused you such stress that you are considering abandoning everyone here, then you should reach out to Satan to give you a better explanation of what his own words are supposed to mean, rather than go through with destructive and isolating actions.

You are using a quote from a text that was written ages ago to justify yourself as an unquestionable authority for us. It’s like you want Athenria to recognise you in those lines. This attitude reminds me of Christianity.

I don’t understand why going independently seen as destructive and isolating. JoS is not the only and single source of the occult knowledge, it never was. There is knowledge everywhere and our advancement is not up to one website. I wrote that I am leaving is to give feedback. People are leaving this site.

For the readers: Guys, you don’t have to follow every person who calms to be more advanced than you as your authority/spiritual leader/guru…etc.

The Joy of Satan is a highly spiritual and valuable resource for valid alchemical knowledge, knowledge about the Demons, magick and much more.

You are very naive if you believe you will find outside anything better. You will not. Most recourses are flat out wrong, fake and lie.

If you want to study the occult, you need to get books from the 1600‘s you can study the works of prince Gerber or Plato‘s work. Plato was a spiritual alchemist who was initiated by Lady Isis.

However, I am 100% sure you will have a very hard time to find valid material, and after that I am 666% sure you will never be able to really understand and fathom what these Scriptures are telling us. They wrote in a very secretive fashion so only very selected and Initiated few understand this.

The Joy Of Satan has this very knowledge, however, it is simply explained so every idiot understands it.

But not every idiot understands the real value of the Joy of Satan.

Have fun playing occultist.

Some more things, Plato‘s „philosophy“ are spiritual instructions to advance and develop the soul.
As I said he was a spiritual alchemist, who got initiated by Lady Isis in Egyp (the ancient centre of alchemy).
Also, the philosopher‘s stone turns the „metals“ to Gold, Plato was a „philosopher“, note the similarity here philosophy, aka spiritual instructions, and the Philosopher‘s stone, the perfection of the Metals aka the Soul.

 

[Cast Cat]

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Yet, regardless of any of this, nobody has asked why a random Pagan, outside of JOS, has any interest in HPS Maxine at all? Who exactly are these people who have a valuable insight into our community, yet are not even a part of it? What are their names, even?

This is them:

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/hyperborean_research/

 

[Siatris Ioholo]

You've been here three days and you think you're making the rules? Stop this air of superiority and learn from members older and more experienced than you! You won't be taken seriously if you propagate nonsense around here.

If you don't apply what I've said you'll stick with your delusions and go down the path of ignorance until you self-destruct! By the way, you're going to piss me off enough.

You have one mouth and two ears to listen more and talk less! Understand what we want to tell you for once and develop your soul.

Listen boy, i'm an SS, what are you supposed to be?

You really want to come in here and tell me that i should go learn from those older and more experienced than i am? you have any idea how old i am? you have any idea of my experience?
Go put your money where your mouth is and show some stats, boy.

i may have been 'here' for some days, but do you want to pretend you know how long i've been with Satan?


https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/NoMediators.html

THE SATANIC MINISTRY IS HERE FOR GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT ONLY- NO ONE COMES BETWEEN ANYONE AND HIS/HER PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH SATAN IN ANY WAY. THERE ARE NO MEDIATORS IN SATANISM!
...
The point is- remember true Satanism is about being yourself and being free. No one is expected to do anything that they are uncomfortable with or anything that is not a part of their nature.
I allow everyone to follow the dictates of his own nature
— Satan [from the Al Jilwah]
...
No "High Priest/ess" or anyone else should have any control or power over another person.
...
Remember, as a Satanist, the only one with authority is Satan himself. We do not answer to any human beings.

https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/PEOPLE.html

Satan gives us strength they don't have. I look at them and see how weak most of them are, how they are needy and dependent on the approval of others. This sort of thing leads them to Christianity in the first place. Satan, by his nature walks alone. There is no petty ass-kissing or conforming to the "expectations" and standards of others.

You're supposed to be some kind of SS right? then why does it look like you haven't read the JOS?
instead you come here writing non-sense to me like some christian.

Satan is my teacher and the one who guides me, you want to come between Satan and I? you want other members here to come between Satan and I?
You think you know more than Satan? you think the members heres know more than Satan?

Go fuck yourself.

Okay, so you're either an idiot troll with no intelligence or a mindless, ignorant, hostile retard who doesn't want advancement.

I don't think I'm above Satan. That would just be stupid! Newbies respect Satan and the Gods, but we learn from others. What's so hard to understand?

Also, stop with the fucking language! I don't think you want to mess with me. I've been nice to you, but apparently you're not worth it!

You're just an incompetent jerk!

 

[Demonic]

this Antheria bitch is from enemy territory.

onlly here to upset, cause problems, attack clergy indirectly...

she smell from 70 miles away... u know where from... kike enemy forum...

"question cobra" is more like "im with kikes" at this point. cobra has done nothing bad anw

He/she just takes a line or two from JoS and twists the meaning that fits well to her own beliefs and does not understand the real meaning and does not intend to either.

I also remember how she/he was promoting a newbie to start multiple workings and another member for black magic workings, where it wasnt necessary.

She also lacks knowledge as on Shadowcat’s post she writes, “Find a nice man, even if hes with another woman break them up , change his personality and attitude using runes or whatever (she stated wrong for this) , keep him”

Above all clearly shows shes no advance and lacks knowledge as to how things work.

To me it feels like, she just read “How to use Aura” and “3 steps of witchcraft” on meditation and satanic witchcraft page respectively, just these 2 sections,advices everyone and applies that everywhere.

 

[Kokusz]

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I never was here? I actually did contributed in many Rituals and I did contributed in Hungarian translations. I translated a recent Ritual, and translated many sermons from Hoodedcobra and shared with other Hungarians.

I don’t feel and see myself failing just because I leave behind an online group. Some of you trying to make us believe that our spiritual advancement is up to you, I think this is false and one more thing that gives christian wibes to me. Maybe this site was always like this and I am the one that changed.

Good luck and goodbye!
Hail Satan!

 

[High Priest Hooded Cobra 666]

You've been here three days and you think you're making the rules? Stop this air of superiority and learn from members older and more experienced than you! You won't be taken seriously if you propagate nonsense around here.

If you don't apply what I've said you'll stick with your delusions and go down the path of ignorance until you self-destruct! By the way, you're going to piss me off enough.

You have one mouth and two ears to listen more and talk less! Understand what we want to tell you for once and develop your soul.

Listen boy, i'm an SS, what are you supposed to be?

You really want to come in here and tell me that i should go learn from those older and more experienced than i am? you have any idea how old i am? you have any idea of my experience?
Go put your money where your mouth is and show some stats, boy.

i may have been 'here' for some days, but do you want to pretend you know how long i've been with Satan?


https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/NoMediators.html

THE SATANIC MINISTRY IS HERE FOR GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT ONLY- NO ONE COMES BETWEEN ANYONE AND HIS/HER PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH SATAN IN ANY WAY. THERE ARE NO MEDIATORS IN SATANISM!
...
The point is- remember true Satanism is about being yourself and being free. No one is expected to do anything that they are uncomfortable with or anything that is not a part of their nature.
I allow everyone to follow the dictates of his own nature
— Satan [from the Al Jilwah]
...
No "High Priest/ess" or anyone else should have any control or power over another person.
...
Remember, as a Satanist, the only one with authority is Satan himself. We do not answer to any human beings.

https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/PEOPLE.html

Satan gives us strength they don't have. I look at them and see how weak most of them are, how they are needy and dependent on the approval of others. This sort of thing leads them to Christianity in the first place. Satan, by his nature walks alone. There is no petty ass-kissing or conforming to the "expectations" and standards of others.

You're supposed to be some kind of SS right? then why does it look like you haven't read the JOS?
instead you come here writing non-sense to me like some christian.

Satan is my teacher and the one who guides me, you want to come between Satan and I? you want other members here to come between Satan and I?
You think you know more than Satan? you think the members heres know more than Satan?

Go fuck yourself.

Okay, so you're either an idiot troll with no intelligence or a mindless, ignorant, hostile retard who doesn't want advancement.

I don't think I'm above Satan. That would just be stupid! Newbies respect Satan and the Gods, but we learn from others. What's so hard to understand?

Also, stop with the fucking language! I don't think you want to mess with me. I've been nice to you, but apparently you're not worth it!

You're just an incompetent jerk!

Relax, I was sent an e-mail these are trolls from another place that are only here to agitate and nothing else. Maybe they can understand if time goes. They are here to pick fights and instigate issues behind fake accounts.

 

[Blitzkreig [SG]]

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pssst my friend they are right, tell no one i say this

Oh really? You are going to give credibility to those who actively oppose JoS?

This is rich coming from someone who supports O9A and would rather write "Hail" to a fictional entity instead of Satan, within your signature. You also claimed the RTR uses Hebrew, and earlier you wanted to have racemix with a Japanese person.

It is clear you have a lot to learn and shouldn't be pushing slander by other "Pagans" about one of the most advanced members JoS has. For you to claim she has died is an affront not just to her own abilities, but those of Satan as well.

Your other two most recent posts are making fun of other serious situations as well. You seem to love destroying your credibility, then you whine about free speech, as if we should give you free reign when you want to sow dissent.

 

[Kitsunebi]

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Oh really? You are going to give credibility to those who actively oppose JoS?

This is rich coming from someone who supports O9A and would rather write "Hail" to a fictional entity instead of Satan, within your signature. You also claimed the RTR uses Hebrew, and earlier you wanted to have racemix with a Japanese person.

It is clear you have a lot to learn and shouldn't be pushing slander by other "Pagans" about one of the most advanced members JoS has. For you to claim she has died is an affront not just to her own abilities, but those of Satan as well.

Your other two most recent posts are making fun of other serious situations as well. You seem to love destroying your credibility, then you whine about free speech, as if we should give you free reign when you want to sow dissent.

hmm it seem that what you post immediately goes to top of forum well anyways good to explain, i wish i could talk further on this but it wont be approved, i like maxine but what i have read suggests some problem. i dont support order of nine angels i just think some of their ideas are correct. yes i say hail Nyarlathotep cause i like lovecraft and the entity, who knows he may actually be a thoughtform at this point, is it required i put hail satan in my signature? i thought we promote individualism not borg hive mind, yes i hail satan but why must it be in signature if everyone else has it. well the rtr does use hebrew even if reversed so i dont see the problem. i changed my mind on the japanese person this is my mistake i thought one time thing was ok but its not. most of these is past criticism i explained before why you repeat them now?

you think i care about credibility? you notice what i post dont you? i never came here as another jos member or to build a reputation but rather to question and compare everything here to other systems so i can find best place this is why i ask such things because i dont think 100% of stuff here is accurate like many others do. yes i do troll sometimes as well but this is harmless i criticize your moderation cause sometimes there are important thing i cant ask and people i cant critisize i dont expect you to post everything there is reasonable limit to ban things like porn, gore, etc but why another opinion? yeah i have a lot to learn that why im here and ask stuff, if im given hostile reaction or not it doesnt matter only that i get an answer.

If you think that it is correct to have a total edgy nihilistic approach to life then I have some bad news for you, good luck trying to look impressionable when trying to get a job and prove that Satanists are totally not and NEVER what the kikes dictate with that attitude. Stop trying to run from what you are at fault for what you said, have some sense of responsibility for whatever comes out of your mouth next time.