Was the old Joy of Satan site mainstream "Satanism"?

[Hárbarðr]

I'm addressing here a group of people who aren't satisfied with the change to the Temple of Zeus because they believe it somehow taught mainstream Satanism (i.e. Satan being a dark god, part of xianity e.t.c.). and they disagree with the name Zeus because it is very "different" from that. Luckily we have the previous JoS website saved so we can look at what it said.

Some facts:

1. The previous Joy of Satan site always claimed that true Satanism predates Christianity and is ancient Paganism. Moreover, it said that Satan is the true creator God, that the jewish god and Jesus do not exist and Jesus was stolen from Pagan Gods.

In light of new knowledge based upon hundreds of hours of intense and in-depth research, we have discovered the following:

1. Satan is our True Creator God.
"YHVH" otherwise known as "Jehovah" by the deluded, is a false entity. "YHVH" stands for the four elements and corners in the popular Jewish systems of magick that are available to the public.

2. The character "Jesus Christ" is fictitious and was stolen from some 18+ Pagan legends of a God hanging from a tree, such as Odin, then being resurrected, and is another description of the alchemical operation of transforming the soul- death and then resurrection.
The Nazarene is and has never been anything more than a tool to remove all true spiritual knowledge and disarm the populace of their spiritual powers. Humanity has paid to the tune of trillions upon trillions of dollars, and with sickness, misery, and suffering due to the removal of this knowledge. Spiritual knowledge was systematically destroyed, twisted, and corrupted to SPIRITUALLY AND FINANCIALLY ENSLAVE US ALL. By force-feeding the populace that the Nazarene is a real entity, those at the top have maintained control and have reaped untold wealth and power.

3. True Satanism preceded Christianity by thousands of years and is based upon total transformation of the soul. Christians are deluded into "accepting Jesus Christ" and "living saved" which is all false. Everything in the Christian religion is false and we prove this beyond all doubts. The Christian "saved" hoax is based upon stolen and corrupted knowledge of alchemy, where one truly works spiritually to transform one's soul into godhead.

Source: https://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/TRADITIONAL.html

2. The JoS website denounced those who have the mainstream/Christian view of Satan and said it doesn't want to be associated with them:

We do not recognize nor do we acknowledge groups who characterize Satan or Satanism by Judeo/Christian concepts, or those, who like the late Anton LaVey’s Church of Satan members, do not acknowledge his existence as a real being.

We do not recognize any organizations, churches, etc, that claim to be Satanists, yet take their so-called "Satanism" straight from the Judeo/Christian Bible, conform to Judeo/Christian concepts regarding Satan, Demons [The Ancient Pagan Gods], or Satanism. True Satanism existed long before any Judeo/Christian Bible or teachings. These people are not Satanists, they are reverse Christians, or Jews.

Source: https://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Welcome.html

3. The JoS website never claimed Satan is one of the traditional "dark" gods like Set or Saturn or whoever else. Instead, it said Satan is the Sumerian God Enki:

For too long, so many lies and so much misinformation have been spread about Satan. Many of us have seen him, have conversed with him, and have even been astrally touched by him. Nearly all of us who know him agree concerning his appearance. Enemy so-called "religions" have for far too long, written the book on how they believe him to appear, how they believe Demons to look and these are nothing but blasphemous lies. He is not red with horns and a tail, nor does he look like a Halloween monster. He does not have flaming red eyes or rubbery wings. These depictions are intended to insult, denigrate, and blaspheme him. [There are some lower orders of Demons. They are protectors and messengers who serve the higher-ranking Demons]. Here are images of how Satan appears to those of us who have seen him. Contrary to Satanism being labeled as "darkness," Satan appears wearing a long white robe identical to what he is shown wearing in the images below. He is the Top Leader of the Nordic Gods of the Empire of Orion. Many of us see him often and have a very close relationship with him. He is beautiful. His appearance is almost exactly as in the pictures, other than he rarely appears with wings.

He is the Sumerian God EA, also known as ENKI which means "Lord of the Earth." He is also known as Melek Ta'us.

Source: https://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Satan.html

4. The JoS always said that the Demons are no one else but the ancient Pre-Christian Pagan Gods, including Zeus. It never said that Zeus is Jehova (since Jehova doesn't exist, as explained above).

With the coming of Christianity, the Original Pagan Gods were blasphemed as monsters. The above quote from the Encyclopædia Britannica claims that Daemons are lower than Gods. This is partially true in that some are human hybrids [Demi-Gods] who have become both spiritually and physically immortal and have what is called "supernatural powers." The Demons of the Goetia are all Original Pagan Gods. Some such as Asmodeus are Demi-Gods.

This excerpt quote from the Catholic Encyclopedia is very revealing:
In the same way the Greeks and Romans may have worshipped their divinities, fondly believing them to be good. But the Christian Scriptures declare that all the gods of the Gentiles are demons.

Catholic Encyclopedia: Devil Worship
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04767a.htm

Source: https://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Daemon.html

MAMMON [ZEUS]
Rank: Treasurer of Hell
”Mammon" is not his real name. "Mammon" is a Hebrew word for money and nothing more. How this name was applied to a Demon/God was through misinterpretation and ignorance. We found in our workings with the Demons, the Greek God Zeus answers to "Mammon."
Zeus has short platinum blonde hair with waves and very light bluish-grey eyes. He wears a laurel crown, a white toga and is built stocky.
– High Priestess Maxine

Source: https://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/DEMONSI.html

5. The JoS always denounced the Qliphoth and other jewish bullshit that mainstream "Satanists" practice:

The Jews have attacked us Gentiles for centuries. Especially our Pagan Gods. The Catholic Church, Christianity, Communism and much more are different faces of the Jewish empire.

In addition to all of this, the Jews have been at liberty to again, DICTATE and TELL us all what Satanism is supposed to be about, so-called "evil" and related. Jews always assume positions of authority where they order Gentiles about.

The denigration of our Gods to the qlippoth, this sick filth, was invented by Rabbi Isaac Luria during the 16th century, following the expulsion of the Jews from Spain. This expulsion was a major blow to the Jewish community. So major that Luria wrote of the qlippoth, looking to answers for the Jewish question, "If God is good, why is there evil?"

My point in writing this is many Satanists have been misled through this Jewish invented filth and extreme blasphemy against our Gods. Many who explore this trash through meditation and such have horrific experiences.

This Jewish invented filth has nothing to do with any of our Gods.

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20190307235048/http://www.satanslibrary.org/Updates/Qlippoth.html


So you can see the JoS has denounced all aspects related to mainstream/Christian Satanism and it was always Ancient Paganism more than the typical idea of "Satanism". That's why it was always controversial and attacked by most others who claimed to be "Satanists".

This means that if you are a mainstream/typical Satanist a.k.a. a reverse Christian or someone who believes Satan is a "dark god", you were never welcome in the previous JoS, as it denounced your type of Satanism multiple times in the site. Your opinion on whether you like the change to ToZ or not is irrelevant, as you were not considered a real Satanist according to JoS.

 

[Helleniser]

Thank you for making this post, what High Priestess Maxine always imagined was the restoration of the true essence of the Gods, and High Priest Hooded Cobra is completing this task. For this to be done, major changes have to take place, including the transition to the Temple of Zeus.

 

[UltraLord]

Religion is culture, the parasite has created an entire culture to enslave mankind. The only way to free it is to create a culture that will liberate mankind. Just like they used culture to shun the Gods so to will we create a culture that will embrace them. For to long has humanity been lost without its heroes. We need our heroes to return.

 

[Stormblood]

Religion is culture, the parasite has created an entire culture to enslave mankind. The only way to free it is to create a culture that will liberate mankind. Just like they used culture to shun the Gods so to will we create a culture that will embrace them. For to long has humanity been lost without its heroes. We need our heroes to return.

Rather, we need to become the Heroes that shift the culture.