unknown birth time

[zir_gohed1]

This may sound dumb but if there were a way of figuring out my birth time by studying my natal chart, i would like to know.
My story:I was born as a dead baby, so nobody bothered about my birth time and my birth certificate doesnt carry it. The doctor couldnt read my heart beat, i didnt respond to the oxygen so i was dead but quite sometime later when i was to go into mortuary, i came to life. My mum was crying over my dead body for quite sometime and refused to hand me over to the doctor who wanted to put me in mortuary, then i came alive. Thanks to Father Satan.
HAIL FATHER SATAN!!

 

[Shannon Outlaw]

You can ask your GD or Father Satan. One of our memebers found this out the same way.




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On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:47 AM EDT zir_gohed1 wrote:

This may sound dumb but if there were a way of figuring out my birth time by studying my natal chart, i would like to know.
My story:I was born as a dead baby, so nobody bothered about my birth time and my birth certificate doesnt carry it. The doctor couldnt read my heart beat, i didnt respond to the oxygen so i was dead but quite sometime later when i was to go into mortuary, i came to life. My mum was crying over my dead body for quite sometime and refused to hand me over to the doctor who wanted to put me in mortuary, then i came alive. Thanks to Father Satan.
HAIL FATHER SATAN!!

 

[siguarddraconis]

So, you were stillborn, and SUDDENLY, after some longer time you came alive? Wow, miracles happen :/

You know what? This is called attention-seeking behaviour - used mainly by lurking chaosmongers to distract the attention from the Satanic and focus on an infiltrator's crap.

Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "zir_gohed1" <zir_do@... wrote:

This may sound dumb but if there were a way of figuring out my birth time by studying my natal chart, i would like to know.
My story:I was born as a dead baby, so nobody bothered about my birth time and my birth certificate doesnt carry it. The doctor couldnt read my heart beat, i didnt respond to the oxygen so i was dead but quite sometime later when i was to go into mortuary, i came to life. My mum was crying over my dead body for quite sometime and refused to hand me over to the doctor who wanted to put me in mortuary, then i came alive. Thanks to Father Satan.
HAIL FATHER SATAN!!

 

[zir_gohed1]

Thanks Shannon, that means i'll have to be more patience as i have difficult communications with the Gods. Even, naturally i have a minor hearing impairment.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@... wrote:


You can ask your GD or Father Satan. One of our memebers found this out the same way.




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On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:47 AM EDT zir_gohed1 wrote:

This may sound dumb but if there were a way of figuring out my birth time by studying my natal chart, i would like to know.
My story:I was born as a dead baby, so nobody bothered about my birth time and my birth certificate doesnt carry it. The doctor couldnt read my heart beat, i didnt respond to the oxygen so i was dead but quite sometime later when i was to go into mortuary, i came to life. My mum was crying over my dead body for quite sometime and refused to hand me over to the doctor who wanted to put me in mortuary, then i came alive. Thanks to Father Satan.
HAIL FATHER SATAN!!

 

[zir_gohed1]

Siguard, kindly take note that your opinion of me seeking attention is false. I kindly advice you that this should be the last time you raise an infiltrator alert on my posts, as infiltration is not my purpose here.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" <drammanoth@... wrote:

So, you were stillborn, and SUDDENLY, after some longer time you came alive? Wow, miracles happen :/

You know what? This is called attention-seeking behaviour - used mainly by lurking chaosmongers to distract the attention from the Satanic and focus on an infiltrator's crap.

Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "zir_gohed1" <zir_do@ wrote:

This may sound dumb but if there were a way of figuring out my birth time by studying my natal chart, i would like to know.
My story:I was born as a dead baby, so nobody bothered about my birth time and my birth certificate doesnt carry it. The doctor couldnt read my heart beat, i didnt respond to the oxygen so i was dead but quite sometime later when i was to go into mortuary, i came to life. My mum was crying over my dead body for quite sometime and refused to hand me over to the doctor who wanted to put me in mortuary, then i came alive. Thanks to Father Satan.
HAIL FATHER SATAN!!

 

[Svem]

There is a field in astrology called rectification, to find out your exact birth time.
"Astrology rectification is the branch of astrology that uses past events and various astrology techniques to determine the time of birth when it is unknown."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natal_chart#Rectification

The time of birth is very important, the exact minute & second.
In Jyotish - Indian astrology, they make a rectification for every chart to make sure, & calculate also seconds & millisecond.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_astrology
So I suggest that you find some good Jyotish astrologer to determinate your time, & explain to him your problem.
I suggest you go to private consultation, but anything about Jyotish is very expensive.
I don't know where you live but I can suggest the head astrologer of one Europe-Slavic based institute.
The western astrology also has its own field of Rectification, but they are not that accurate as Jyotish.
And I never trust westerns when it comes for any time based accuracy at all...

In Western astrology there is also a debate what is the time of birth? Is it when any of your body parts get out of the womb, when the head goes out, when you take your first breath, or when your umbilical cord is cut, or ...?

Some astrologers suggest that the time of birth is your first breath, symbolically the degree of exaltation of the Moon (3rd degree of Taurus), & the death is your last breath symbolically the degree of exaltation of the Pluton (3rd degree of Scorpio).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exaltation_%28astrology%29

A stillborn natal chart is always fun to investigate.
Thank you for sharing... :]


Hail Azazel!
Hail JOS!
Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "zir_gohed1" <zir_do@... wrote:

Siguard, kindly take note that your opinion of me seeking attention is false. I kindly advice you that this should be the last time you raise an infiltrator alert on my posts, as infiltration is not my purpose here.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" <drammanoth@ wrote:

So, you were stillborn, and SUDDENLY, after some longer time you came alive? Wow, miracles happen :/

You know what? This is called attention-seeking behaviour - used mainly by lurking chaosmongers to distract the attention from the Satanic and focus on an infiltrator's crap.

Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "zir_gohed1" <zir_do@ wrote:

This may sound dumb but if there were a way of figuring out my birth time by studying my natal chart, i would like to know.
My story:I was born as a dead baby, so nobody bothered about my birth time and my birth certificate doesnt carry it. The doctor couldnt read my heart beat, i didnt respond to the oxygen so i was dead but quite sometime later when i was to go into mortuary, i came to life. My mum was crying over my dead body for quite sometime and refused to hand me over to the doctor who wanted to put me in mortuary, then i came alive. Thanks to Father Satan.
HAIL FATHER SATAN!!

 

[siguarddraconis]

Is it? You know very well what you are, and so do I. You have been banned once, so now you're keeping a low profile.

By this hardly plausible story you want to attract attention - 'oh-poor-you'.

If a child is stillborn, it is DEAD. Period. You provide so little data as to the actual event that you can modify it the way you please - just like the xian church did with the shitty jewish fiction.

If it was the way you've said, medical journals and the media would publish the case.

As for the answer to the people who might ask for the same in the future, but will not make attention-seekers and martyrs out of themselves, one can learn it via the pendulum. E.g.:

'was I born between 3 and 4?', 'was I born between 3:30 and 3:45?' etc.

Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "zir_gohed1" <zir_do@... wrote:

Siguard, kindly take note that your opinion of me seeking attention is false. I kindly advice you that this should be the last time you raise an infiltrator alert on my posts, as infiltration is not my purpose here.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" <drammanoth@ wrote:

So, you were stillborn, and SUDDENLY, after some longer time you came alive? Wow, miracles happen :/

You know what? This is called attention-seeking behaviour - used mainly by lurking chaosmongers to distract the attention from the Satanic and focus on an infiltrator's crap.

Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "zir_gohed1" <zir_do@ wrote:

This may sound dumb but if there were a way of figuring out my birth time by studying my natal chart, i would like to know.
My story:I was born as a dead baby, so nobody bothered about my birth time and my birth certificate doesnt carry it. The doctor couldnt read my heart beat, i didnt respond to the oxygen so i was dead but quite sometime later when i was to go into mortuary, i came to life. My mum was crying over my dead body for quite sometime and refused to hand me over to the doctor who wanted to put me in mortuary, then i came alive. Thanks to Father Satan.
HAIL FATHER SATAN!!

 

[Raven Lythrum]

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From: zir_gohed1 <zir_do@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:04 AM
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: unknown birth time

  Thanks Shannon, that means i'll have to be more patience as i have difficult communications with the Gods. Even, naturally i have a minor hearing impairment.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@... wrote:


You can ask your GD or Father Satan. One of our memebers found this out the same way.




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On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:47 AM EDT zir_gohed1 wrote:

This may sound dumb but if there were a way of figuring out my birth time by studying my natal chart, i would like to know.
My story:I was born as a dead baby, so nobody bothered about my birth time and my birth certificate doesnt carry it. The doctor couldnt read my heart beat, i didnt respond to the oxygen so i was dead but quite sometime later when i was to go into mortuary, i came to life. My mum was crying over my dead body for quite sometime and refused to hand me over to the doctor who wanted to put me in mortuary, then i came alive. Thanks to Father Satan.
HAIL FATHER SATAN!!

 

[Timothy Sharp]

You guys need to chill out lol, you are getting way to crazy over this. the pendulum is a very good method, also a ouji board, or if you just wait and ask one of the gods, Im sure you'll get what your looking for. "The meaning of life is to better yourself and the Universe" - Lord Satan
From: siguarddraconis <drammanoth@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 4:05 AM
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: unknown birth time

  Is it? You know very well what you are, and so do I. You have been banned once, so now you're keeping a low profile.

By this hardly plausible story you want to attract attention - 'oh-poor-you'.

If a child is stillborn, it is DEAD. Period. You provide so little data as to the actual event that you can modify it the way you please - just like the xian church did with the shitty jewish fiction.

If it was the way you've said, medical journals and the media would publish the case.

As for the answer to the people who might ask for the same in the future, but will not make attention-seekers and martyrs out of themselves, one can learn it via the pendulum. E.g.:

'was I born between 3 and 4?', 'was I born between 3:30 and 3:45?' etc.

Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!

--- In mailto:JoS_Astrology%40yahoogroups.com, "zir_gohed1" <zir_do@... wrote:

Siguard, kindly take note that your opinion of me seeking attention is false. I kindly advice you that this should be the last time you raise an infiltrator alert on my posts, as infiltration is not my purpose here.

--- In mailto:JoS_Astrology%40yahoogroups.com, "siguarddraconis" <drammanoth@ wrote:

So, you were stillborn, and SUDDENLY, after some longer time you came alive? Wow, miracles happen :/

You know what? This is called attention-seeking behaviour - used mainly by lurking chaosmongers to distract the attention from the Satanic and focus on an infiltrator's crap.

Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!

--- In mailto:JoS_Astrology%40yahoogroups.com, "zir_gohed1" <zir_do@ wrote:

This may sound dumb but if there were a way of figuring out my birth time by studying my natal chart, i would like to know.
My story:I was born as a dead baby, so nobody bothered about my birth time and my birth certificate doesnt carry it. The doctor couldnt read my heart beat, i didnt respond to the oxygen so i was dead but quite sometime later when i was to go into mortuary, i came to life. My mum was crying over my dead body for quite sometime and refused to hand me over to the doctor who wanted to put me in mortuary, then i came alive. Thanks to Father Satan.
HAIL FATHER SATAN!!

 

[zir_gohed1]

thanks svem i will look into that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Svem" <svem666@... wrote:



There is a field in astrology called rectification, to find out your exact birth time.
"Astrology rectification is the branch of astrology that uses past events and various astrology techniques to determine the time of birth when it is unknown."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natal_chart#Rectification

The time of birth is very important, the exact minute & second.
In Jyotish - Indian astrology, they make a rectification for every chart to make sure, & calculate also seconds & millisecond.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_astrology
So I suggest that you find some good Jyotish astrologer to determinate your time, & explain to him your problem.
I suggest you go to private consultation, but anything about Jyotish is very expensive.
I don't know where you live but I can suggest the head astrologer of one Europe-Slavic based institute.
The western astrology also has its own field of Rectification, but they are not that accurate as Jyotish.
And I never trust westerns when it comes for any time based accuracy at all...

In Western astrology there is also a debate what is the time of birth? Is it when any of your body parts get out of the womb, when the head goes out, when you take your first breath, or when your umbilical cord is cut, or ...?

Some astrologers suggest that the time of birth is your first breath, symbolically the degree of exaltation of the Moon (3rd degree of Taurus), & the death is your last breath symbolically the degree of exaltation of the Pluton (3rd degree of Scorpio).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exaltation_%28astrology%29

A stillborn natal chart is always fun to investigate.
Thank you for sharing... :]


Hail Azazel!
Hail JOS!
Hail Satan!



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "zir_gohed1" <zir_do@ wrote:

Siguard, kindly take note that your opinion of me seeking attention is false. I kindly advice you that this should be the last time you raise an infiltrator alert on my posts, as infiltration is not my purpose here.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" <drammanoth@ wrote:

So, you were stillborn, and SUDDENLY, after some longer time you came alive? Wow, miracles happen :/

You know what? This is called attention-seeking behaviour - used mainly by lurking chaosmongers to distract the attention from the Satanic and focus on an infiltrator's crap.

Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "zir_gohed1" <zir_do@ wrote:

This may sound dumb but if there were a way of figuring out my birth time by studying my natal chart, i would like to know.
My story:I was born as a dead baby, so nobody bothered about my birth time and my birth certificate doesnt carry it. The doctor couldnt read my heart beat, i didnt respond to the oxygen so i was dead but quite sometime later when i was to go into mortuary, i came to life. My mum was crying over my dead body for quite sometime and refused to hand me over to the doctor who wanted to put me in mortuary, then i came alive. Thanks to Father Satan.
HAIL FATHER SATAN!!