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There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:



1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space.. but what this really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space (aura)...it is a focal point in magick, with infinity merely an allegorical representation of the unrealized dark regions of the subconscious mind.

Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are powerful. They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and write circles with intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than that, circles are used for things like casting personal spells, and of course for "Protection." If anyone tells you otherwise, they simply want you to lower your shields.



2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain magick, energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality and so is the reason they are so widely used.

3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality for the physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take a look at a square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in many groups), which is basically the summoning of the 4 directions. Since triangles represent 3D, people normally use physical items like a chalice, though I'm not sure if they understand it that way.

4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to understand, but...

Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4 sides... you get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6 directions of space... which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6 light. Squaring 6 gives you 36 (36 day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72 Goetia. Our beloved demons).




If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd love to hear.



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I also forgot to point out:

Inverted triangle/pyramid simply symbolizes the underworld and ones subconscious self and powers. The upright triangle symbolizes conscious reality, which is the subconscious self emerging and is the "true heaven." It is bullshit that heaven is portrayed as being up in the sky. It is not, it is within the self and the reality around ones self.


Downright/upright triangles are allegorical for Heaven and Hell. When see from the Xian perspective, it programs you to fragment your mind to Heaven and Hell. When seen from the enlightened perspective... it can be seen as the Underworld (Subconscious) and Asgard (conscious 'shaped' reality).


When you do the real work, you deprogram yourself and clean out all the negative garbage, you take control...replace garbage with good things and unite both halves and this is when it becomes "The Golden Age", which you can see in Wikipedia which I believe is Satya Yuga.. don't believe all of it of course as it is corrupted to make you religious. The main meaning of Golden Age though is everything is good..your golden!


In regards to triangles and pentegrams and their upright and inverted meanings. NO it doesn't mean you are sending energy up into outer space. If you believe that, it is no different than thinking heaven is in the sky which I wrote about the Golden Age being here in present reality.

What it does mean is you are sending energy up out of the underworld to satanically bless your external reality which is actually outer space... outside of YOU! The world around you... So upright and downright triangles have similar meaning to pentegrams.


Pentegrams are simply 5 triangles placed around a pentagon which represents 5D space... what this means is that 5D space is actually the realm of Psychic Site and 'Conception' of things from birth to death in time. So what this means is Pentegrams are about manipulating/shaping reality via Psychic Intention.... thus the US has a sacred Pentagon, and the Army uses an Upright Star as its symbol, just as other countries have done on flags and banners.... if you haven't already noticed...




Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@... wrote:

There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:



1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space.. but what this really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space (aura)...it is a focal point in magick, with infinity merely an allegorical representation of the unrealized dark regions of the subconscious mind.

Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are powerful. They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and write circles with intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than that, circles are used for things like casting personal spells, and of course for "Protection." If anyone tells you otherwise, they simply want you to lower your shields.



2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain magick, energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality and so is the reason they are so widely used.

3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality for the physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take a look at a square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in many groups), which is basically the summoning of the 4 directions. Since triangles represent 3D, people normally use physical items like a chalice, though I'm not sure if they understand it that way.

4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to understand, but...

Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4 sides... you get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6 directions of space... which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6 light. Squaring 6 gives you 36 (36 day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72 Goetia. Our beloved demons).




If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd love to hear.
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You're off base on a lot of things... For one... the inverted and upright pentagrams ARE symbolic of sending energy up or down. This predates back to ancient sumeria. Pentagrams also have their extreme geometric value in the various math that goes into the angles and such, this fact was also utilized by many ancient civilizations, earliest known being the sumerians.

The sending energy up or down thing is NOT referring to the heavens or hell, it is quite literally referring to the energy of the earth and the energy of the heavens(outerspace). In biblical terms, heaven, and the heavens, are two completely different things. The energy in the system of the earth as it's whole and the universe as a whole is what the inverted pentagram symbolizes.

Almost like... it's guiding the free energy of the universe down and focusing it to the point on the earth where we need it and can utilize it... though at the same time it's just symbolic. It's not litterally pulling energy down by having a pentagram in your backyard hahah...

The pentagram as it is has ancient geometric meaning and other spiritual properties. It is quite easy to find many pentagonal land landmarks along with evidence of its use everywhere throughout the world.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@... wrote:

I also forgot to point out:

Inverted triangle/pyramid simply symbolizes the underworld and ones subconscious self and powers. The upright triangle symbolizes conscious reality, which is the subconscious self emerging and is the "true heaven." It is bullshit that heaven is portrayed as being up in the sky. It is not, it is within the self and the reality around ones self.


Downright/upright triangles are allegorical for Heaven and Hell. When see from the Xian perspective, it programs you to fragment your mind to Heaven and Hell. When seen from the enlightened perspective... it can be seen as the Underworld (Subconscious) and Asgard (conscious 'shaped' reality).


When you do the real work, you deprogram yourself and clean out all the negative garbage, you take control...replace garbage with good things and unite both halves and this is when it becomes "The Golden Age", which you can see in Wikipedia which I believe is Satya Yuga.. don't believe all of it of course as it is corrupted to make you religious. The main meaning of Golden Age though is everything is good..your golden!


In regards to triangles and pentegrams and their upright and inverted meanings. NO it doesn't mean you are sending energy up into outer space. If you believe that, it is no different than thinking heaven is in the sky which I wrote about the Golden Age being here in present reality.

What it does mean is you are sending energy up out of the underworld to satanically bless your external reality which is actually outer space... outside of YOU! The world around you... So upright and downright triangles have similar meaning to pentegrams.


Pentegrams are simply 5 triangles placed around a pentagon which represents 5D space... what this means is that 5D space is actually the realm of Psychic Site and 'Conception' of things from birth to death in time. So what this means is Pentegrams are about manipulating/shaping reality via Psychic Intention.... thus the US has a sacred Pentagon, and the Army uses an Upright Star as its symbol, just as other countries have done on flags and banners.... if you haven't already noticed...




Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@... wrote:

There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:



1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space.. but what this really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space (aura)...it is a focal point in magick, with infinity merely an allegorical representation of the unrealized dark regions of the subconscious mind.

Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are powerful. They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and write circles with intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than that, circles are used for things like casting personal spells, and of course for "Protection." If anyone tells you otherwise, they simply want you to lower your shields.



2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain magick, energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality and so is the reason they are so widely used.

3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality for the physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take a look at a square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in many groups), which is basically the summoning of the 4 directions. Since triangles represent 3D, people normally use physical items like a chalice, though I'm not sure if they understand it that way.

4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to understand, but...

Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4 sides... you get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6 directions of space... which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6 light. Squaring 6 gives you 36 (36 day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72 Goetia. Our beloved demons).




If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd love to hear.



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In regards to number 3, the fourth dimension is actually an 'invisible' link between two objects separated by space. For instance most spiritual energy is of the fourth dimension, thusly allowing us to affect our environments without physically manipulating them, using ritual and magic.

Time is merely a measurement of perception and its role as the fourth dimension is not only widely discredited in scientific circles but the idea itself is disproving.(my year 11 specialist math class gave me much insight into this)

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@... wrote:

There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:



1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space.. but what this really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space (aura)...it is a focal point in magick, with infinity merely an allegorical representation of the unrealized dark regions of the subconscious mind.

Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are powerful. They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and write circles with intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than that, circles are used for things like casting personal spells, and of course for "Protection." If anyone tells you otherwise, they simply want you to lower your shields.



2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain magick, energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality and so is the reason they are so widely used.

3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality for the physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take a look at a square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in many groups), which is basically the summoning of the 4 directions. Since triangles represent 3D, people normally use physical items like a chalice, though I'm not sure if they understand it that way.

4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to understand, but...

Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4 sides... you get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6 directions of space... which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6 light. Squaring 6 gives you 36 (36 day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72 Goetia. Our beloved demons).




If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd love to hear.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
In regards to number 3, the fourth dimension is actually an 'invisible' link between two objects separated by space. For instance most spiritual energy is of the fourth dimension, thusly allowing us to affect our environments without physically manipulating them, using ritual and magic.

Time is merely a measurement of perception and its role as the fourth dimension is not only widely discredited in scientific circles but the idea itself is disproving.(my year 11 specialist math class gave me much insight into this)

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@... wrote:

There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:



1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space.. but what this really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space (aura)...it is a focal point in magick, with infinity merely an allegorical representation of the unrealized dark regions of the subconscious mind.

Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are powerful. They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and write circles with intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than that, circles are used for things like casting personal spells, and of course for "Protection." If anyone tells you otherwise, they simply want you to lower your shields.



2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain magick, energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality and so is the reason they are so widely used.

3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality for the physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take a look at a square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in many groups), which is basically the summoning of the 4 directions. Since triangles represent 3D, people normally use physical items like a chalice, though I'm not sure if they understand it that way.

4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to understand, but...

Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4 sides... you get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6 directions of space... which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6 light. Squaring 6 gives you 36 (36 day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72 Goetia. Our beloved demons).




If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd love to hear.



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Interesting insight. If this is the case, then my theory is the 5th dimension
must also be like a totality of all that is around here and so would be dense
metaphorically speaking or heavy. I think maybe the 5th dimension is related to
gravity in some way. I could be wrong though. If there was math or physics or
something that spoke about that I'd find it very interesting, even if I'm not a
total math physics geek =)


Hail Satan!





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From: John Forsythe <ivan.folghera@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 5:20:10 AM
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Some Geometry meanings

In regards to number 3, the fourth dimension is actually an 'invisible' link
between two objects separated by space. For instance most spiritual energy is of
the fourth dimension, thusly allowing us to affect our environments without
physically manipulating them, using ritual and magic.

Time is merely a measurement of perception and its role as the fourth dimension
is not only widely discredited in scientific circles but the idea itself is
disproving.(my year 11 specialist math class gave me much insight into this)


Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana
<angelo.giancana@... wrote:
There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:



1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space.. but what this
really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space (aura)...it is a
focal point in magick, with infinity merely an allegorical representation of the
unrealized dark regions of the subconscious mind.

Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are powerful.
They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and write circles with
intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than that, circles are used for
things like casting personal spells, and of course for "Protection." If anyone
tells you otherwise, they simply want you to lower your shields.



2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain magick,
energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality and so is the
reason they are so widely used.

3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality for the
physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take a look at a
square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in many groups), which
is basically the summoning of the 4 directions. Since triangles represent 3D,
people normally use physical items like a chalice, though I'm not sure if they
understand it that way.

4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to understand,
but...


Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4 sides... you
get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6 directions of space...
which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6 light. Squaring 6 gives you 36 (36
day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72 Goetia. Our beloved demons).




If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd love to hear.



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Not really. I am not parroting some source I read from a book. This was all
knowledge from the Gods in meditation. Alot of occult knowledge is symbolic.


Inverted triangles are femine. Upright are masculine. The inverted is the same
shape as a womens crotch, just look for her triangle =) The upright triangle
shows the man who is erect which symbolizes "aroused" kundalini rising. This is
shown in the picture where the goddess stands over the naked man with his erect
penis (Shiva and his Consort).


Sending energy up into outer space? seriously? That is just another myth to
distract people and make them think the truth is outside of our immediate
environment (and selves), when the truth is that shit is happening everywhere
all around us already.... ALL THE TIME.

We do not need to take energy down. The sun already supplies energy to
everything. Everything is already connected in a "sympathetic energy field."
All the planets revolve around this field, and then each planet has its own
field. When the earths energy field is manipulated, it manipulates peopels
Auras, because really our life force is connected and in symbiosis with the
earth. Thats why alot of free masonic and church buildings are Built on Ley
Lines (DRAGON LINES). This means the same thing... there is no bringing energy
up or down or any direction, because the energy is already here and in and
around you. You already have access to power, you just have to exercise and
make use of it.








________________________________
From: xtensitymusic <xtensitymusic@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 10:03:59 PM
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Some Geometry meanings

You're off base on a lot of things... For one... the inverted and upright
pentagrams ARE symbolic of sending energy up or down. This predates back to
ancient sumeria. Pentagrams also have their extreme geometric value in the
various math that goes into the angles and such, this fact was also utilized by
many ancient civilizations, earliest known being the sumerians.


The sending energy up or down thing is NOT referring to the heavens or hell, it
is quite literally referring to the energy of the earth and the energy of the
heavens(outerspace). In biblical terms, heaven, and the heavens, are two
completely different things. The energy in the system of the earth as it's whole
and the universe as a whole is what the inverted pentagram symbolizes.

Almost like... it's guiding the free energy of the universe down and focusing it
to the point on the earth where we need it and can utilize it... though at the
same time it's just symbolic. It's not litterally pulling energy down by having
a pentagram in your backyard hahah...

The pentagram as it is has ancient geometric meaning and other spiritual
properties. It is quite easy to find many pentagonal land landmarks along with
evidence of its use everywhere throughout the world.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana
<angelo.giancana@... wrote:
I also forgot to point out:

Inverted triangle/pyramid simply symbolizes the underworld and ones
subconscious self and powers. The upright triangle symbolizes conscious
reality, which is the subconscious self emerging and is the "true heaven." It
is bullshit that heaven is portrayed as being up in the sky. It is not, it is
within the self and the reality around ones self.


Downright/upright triangles are allegorical for Heaven and Hell. When see from
the Xian perspective, it programs you to fragment your mind to Heaven and Hell.
When seen from the enlightened perspective... it can be seen as the Underworld
(Subconscious) and Asgard (conscious 'shaped' reality).


When you do the real work, you deprogram yourself and clean out all the
negative garbage, you take control...replace garbage with good things and unite
both halves and this is when it becomes "The Golden Age", which you can see in
Wikipedia which I believe is Satya Yuga.. don't believe all of it of course as
it is corrupted to make you religious. The main meaning of Golden Age though is
everything is good..your golden!


In regards to triangles and pentegrams and their upright and inverted
meanings. NO it doesn't mean you are sending energy up into outer space. If
you believe that, it is no different than thinking heaven is in the sky which I
wrote about the Golden Age being here in present reality.

What it does mean is you are sending energy up out of the underworld to
satanically bless your external reality which is actually outer space... outside
of YOU! The world around you... So upright and downright triangles have similar
meaning to pentegrams.


Pentegrams are simply 5 triangles placed around a pentagon which represents 5D
space... what this means is that 5D space is actually the realm of Psychic Site
and 'Conception' of things from birth to death in time. So what this means is
Pentegrams are about manipulating/shaping reality via Psychic Intention.... thus
the US has a sacred Pentagon, and the Army uses an Upright Star as its symbol,
just as other countries have done on flags and banners.... if you haven't
already noticed...




Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@... wrote:

There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:



1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space.. but what
this really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space (aura)...it is a
focal point in magick, with infinity merely an allegorical representation of the
unrealized dark regions of the subconscious mind.

Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are powerful.
They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and write circles with
intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than that, circles are used for
things like casting personal spells, and of course for "Protection." If anyone
tells you otherwise, they simply want you to lower your shields.



2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain magick,
energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality and so is the
reason they are so widely used.

3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality for the
physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take a look at a
square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in many groups), which
is basically the summoning of the 4 directions. Since triangles represent 3D,
people normally use physical items like a chalice, though I'm not sure if they
understand it that way.

4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to
understand, but...


Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4 sides... you
get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6 directions of space...
which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6 light. Squaring 6 gives you 36 (36
day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72 Goetia. Our beloved demons).




If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd love to hear.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
Again, you missed the point. The entire point of the pentagram sending energy up or down is SYMBOLIC. Think of it this way, xianity is sending the energy up to their 'God'. While we should be sending and keeping the energy down to keep the earths natural cycles and flow of life in general balanced.

People fail to keep in mind there are different kinds of energies. Yes the sun applies energy but there are different forms and kinds of energy and you can not generalize them all into the same category.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@... wrote:

Not really. I am not parroting some source I read from a book. This was all
knowledge from the Gods in meditation. Alot of occult knowledge is symbolic.


Inverted triangles are femine. Upright are masculine. The inverted is the same
shape as a womens crotch, just look for her triangle =) The upright triangle
shows the man who is erect which symbolizes "aroused" kundalini rising. This is
shown in the picture where the goddess stands over the naked man with his erect
penis (Shiva and his Consort).


Sending energy up into outer space? seriously? That is just another myth to
distract people and make them think the truth is outside of our immediate
environment (and selves), when the truth is that shit is happening everywhere
all around us already.... ALL THE TIME.

We do not need to take energy down. The sun already supplies energy to
everything. Everything is already connected in a "sympathetic energy field."
All the planets revolve around this field, and then each planet has its own
field. When the earths energy field is manipulated, it manipulates peopels
Auras, because really our life force is connected and in symbiosis with the
earth. Thats why alot of free masonic and church buildings are Built on Ley
Lines (DRAGON LINES). This means the same thing... there is no bringing energy
up or down or any direction, because the energy is already here and in and
around you. You already have access to power, you just have to exercise and
make use of it.








________________________________
From: xtensitymusic <xtensitymusic@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 10:03:59 PM
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Some Geometry meanings

You're off base on a lot of things... For one... the inverted and upright
pentagrams ARE symbolic of sending energy up or down. This predates back to
ancient sumeria. Pentagrams also have their extreme geometric value in the
various math that goes into the angles and such, this fact was also utilized by
many ancient civilizations, earliest known being the sumerians.


The sending energy up or down thing is NOT referring to the heavens or hell, it
is quite literally referring to the energy of the earth and the energy of the
heavens(outerspace). In biblical terms, heaven, and the heavens, are two
completely different things. The energy in the system of the earth as it's whole
and the universe as a whole is what the inverted pentagram symbolizes.

Almost like... it's guiding the free energy of the universe down and focusing it
to the point on the earth where we need it and can utilize it... though at the
same time it's just symbolic. It's not litterally pulling energy down by having
a pentagram in your backyard hahah...

The pentagram as it is has ancient geometric meaning and other spiritual
properties. It is quite easy to find many pentagonal land landmarks along with
evidence of its use everywhere throughout the world.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana
<angelo.giancana@ wrote:

I also forgot to point out:

Inverted triangle/pyramid simply symbolizes the underworld and ones
subconscious self and powers. The upright triangle symbolizes conscious
reality, which is the subconscious self emerging and is the "true heaven." It
is bullshit that heaven is portrayed as being up in the sky. It is not, it is
within the self and the reality around ones self.


Downright/upright triangles are allegorical for Heaven and Hell. When see from
the Xian perspective, it programs you to fragment your mind to Heaven and Hell.
When seen from the enlightened perspective... it can be seen as the Underworld
(Subconscious) and Asgard (conscious 'shaped' reality).


When you do the real work, you deprogram yourself and clean out all the
negative garbage, you take control...replace garbage with good things and unite
both halves and this is when it becomes "The Golden Age", which you can see in
Wikipedia which I believe is Satya Yuga.. don't believe all of it of course as
it is corrupted to make you religious. The main meaning of Golden Age though is
everything is good..your golden!


In regards to triangles and pentegrams and their upright and inverted
meanings. NO it doesn't mean you are sending energy up into outer space. If
you believe that, it is no different than thinking heaven is in the sky which I
wrote about the Golden Age being here in present reality.

What it does mean is you are sending energy up out of the underworld to
satanically bless your external reality which is actually outer space... outside
of YOU! The world around you... So upright and downright triangles have similar
meaning to pentegrams.


Pentegrams are simply 5 triangles placed around a pentagon which represents 5D
space... what this means is that 5D space is actually the realm of Psychic Site
and 'Conception' of things from birth to death in time. So what this means is
Pentegrams are about manipulating/shaping reality via Psychic Intention.... thus
the US has a sacred Pentagon, and the Army uses an Upright Star as its symbol,
just as other countries have done on flags and banners.... if you haven't
already noticed...




Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@ wrote:

There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:



1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space.. but what
this really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space (aura)...it is a
focal point in magick, with infinity merely an allegorical representation of the
unrealized dark regions of the subconscious mind.

Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are powerful.
They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and write circles with
intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than that, circles are used for
things like casting personal spells, and of course for "Protection." If anyone
tells you otherwise, they simply want you to lower your shields.



2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain magick,
energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality and so is the
reason they are so widely used.

3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality for the
physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take a look at a
square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in many groups), which
is basically the summoning of the 4 directions. Since triangles represent 3D,
people normally use physical items like a chalice, though I'm not sure if they
understand it that way.

4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to
understand, but...


Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4 sides... you
get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6 directions of space...
which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6 light. Squaring 6 gives you 36 (36
day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72 Goetia. Our beloved demons).




If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd love to hear.



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Inverted Pentegram - There are many meanings to a symbol, as it depends on the
storyteller, and how you match that story up to what you are trying to achieve
=) The pentegram symbolizes man. Inverted... this is showing Odin hanging from
the Tree of Yggdrassil over "Mimirs Well," which symbolizes the subconscious
gateway into the self, two thence travel further into the "hidden realms." This
isn't just symbolic of that... but is also symbolic of the Well of Memories
(your genetic lineage as well as the racial and collective lineage), but also is
the Well of Time and Space. In other words, it is like a Portal and is the
hidden 11th gate of Daath which many don't understand.

Upright Pentegram - This shows that one has properly done the work and has
Risen in his Knowledge by seperating out the dross and is Reborn through the
Nigredo stage of hanging over Mimirs Well and not just attaining Runes, but
other sacred knowledge as well. One has become a "Fire King of a Woden" (Odin)
which really means they have attained the Crown of Life or Kundalini Rising.



Your approach to this entire subject of choosing this pentegram over that
pentegram completely plays into the hands of the Enemy System of where they
present 2 different ideas... ... "I choose to favor this religion over that
religion.." ... "I choose to vote for this president over that president."
...



..."I choose to favor this pentegram over that pentegram..."



Believing crap like this is only dividing yourself.


This playing both sides of the coin is meant to keep you DIVIDED and out of
balance so you may not attain kundalini. It also keeps your Conscious and
Subconscious divided, as that is also what the 2 pentegrams symbolize. I do get
it, and there is nothing remotely religious in my take to spirituality. I am
not choosing favorites here or vying for a fan club of favored ideas. My own
favored idealogy is advancing myself. =) These are merely symbols, and are only
but GUIDES to how you advance on your path. How you choose to interpret them
will determine how you advance, as well as how far you advance.



People should work (send awareness+energy) down first, before moving up..
obviously so they can work with Kundalini. What happens if you send energy up
is you will not just suppress your shadow, but you will also call it and then
create problems in your life. You always transform yourself at the shadow level
first. If you think it is about sending energy up to a god and into outer
space, then you are feeding energy to a thoughtform, which in turn controls the
very belief system you believe in... which is pretty much about sending energy
up. If you don't buy into that crap, then you are sending energy "UP YOU" or
rather your own mind or thoughtform, and thus controlling your own CURRENT.

But like I said, you work down first before even attempting to work up. Working
Up and then down is something more related to working from a Macrocosmic level
and is the realm of the physical world known siddhi's. Babysteps.. you gotta
work microcosmically first. How do I know this? Study and of course
information from demons through meditation.







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From: xtensitymusic <xtensitymusic@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 7:26:42 AM
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Some Geometry meanings

Again, you missed the point. The entire point of the pentagram sending energy up
or down is SYMBOLIC. Think of it this way, xianity is sending the energy up to
their 'God'. While we should be sending and keeping the energy down to keep the
earths natural cycles and flow of life in general balanced.


People fail to keep in mind there are different kinds of energies. Yes the sun
applies energy but there are different forms and kinds of energy and you can not
generalize them all into the same category.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana
<angelo.giancana@... wrote:
Not really. I am not parroting some source I read from a book. This was all
knowledge from the Gods in meditation. Alot of occult knowledge is symbolic.


Inverted triangles are femine. Upright are masculine. The inverted is the
same

shape as a womens crotch, just look for her triangle =) The upright triangle
shows the man who is erect which symbolizes "aroused" kundalini rising. This
is

shown in the picture where the goddess stands over the naked man with his erect

penis (Shiva and his Consort).


Sending energy up into outer space? seriously? That is just another myth to
distract people and make them think the truth is outside of our immediate
environment (and selves), when the truth is that shit is happening everywhere
all around us already.... ALL THE TIME.

We do not need to take energy down. The sun already supplies energy to
everything. Everything is already connected in a "sympathetic energy field."

All the planets revolve around this field, and then each planet has its own
field. When the earths energy field is manipulated, it manipulates peopels
Auras, because really our life force is connected and in symbiosis with the
earth. Thats why alot of free masonic and church buildings are Built on Ley
Lines (DRAGON LINES). This means the same thing... there is no bringing energy

up or down or any direction, because the energy is already here and in and
around you. You already have access to power, you just have to exercise and
make use of it.








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From: xtensitymusic <xtensitymusic@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 10:03:59 PM
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Some Geometry meanings

You're off base on a lot of things... For one... the inverted and upright
pentagrams ARE symbolic of sending energy up or down. This predates back to
ancient sumeria. Pentagrams also have their extreme geometric value in the
various math that goes into the angles and such, this fact was also utilized by

many ancient civilizations, earliest known being the sumerians.


The sending energy up or down thing is NOT referring to the heavens or hell, it

is quite literally referring to the energy of the earth and the energy of the
heavens(outerspace). In biblical terms, heaven, and the heavens, are two
completely different things. The energy in the system of the earth as it's
whole

and the universe as a whole is what the inverted pentagram symbolizes.

Almost like... it's guiding the free energy of the universe down and focusing
it

to the point on the earth where we need it and can utilize it... though at the

same time it's just symbolic. It's not litterally pulling energy down by having

a pentagram in your backyard hahah...

The pentagram as it is has ancient geometric meaning and other spiritual
properties. It is quite easy to find many pentagonal land landmarks along with

evidence of its use everywhere throughout the world.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana
<angelo.giancana@ wrote:

I also forgot to point out:

Inverted triangle/pyramid simply symbolizes the underworld and ones
subconscious self and powers. The upright triangle symbolizes conscious
reality, which is the subconscious self emerging and is the "true heaven." It

is bullshit that heaven is portrayed as being up in the sky. It is not, it is

within the self and the reality around ones self.


Downright/upright triangles are allegorical for Heaven and Hell. When see
from

the Xian perspective, it programs you to fragment your mind to Heaven and
Hell.

When seen from the enlightened perspective... it can be seen as the Underworld

(Subconscious) and Asgard (conscious 'shaped' reality).


When you do the real work, you deprogram yourself and clean out all the
negative garbage, you take control...replace garbage with good things and
unite

both halves and this is when it becomes "The Golden Age", which you can see in

Wikipedia which I believe is Satya Yuga.. don't believe all of it of course as

it is corrupted to make you religious. The main meaning of Golden Age though
is

everything is good..your golden!


In regards to triangles and pentegrams and their upright and inverted
meanings. NO it doesn't mean you are sending energy up into outer space. If

you believe that, it is no different than thinking heaven is in the sky which
I

wrote about the Golden Age being here in present reality.

What it does mean is you are sending energy up out of the underworld to
satanically bless your external reality which is actually outer space...
outside

of YOU! The world around you... So upright and downright triangles have
similar

meaning to pentegrams.


Pentegrams are simply 5 triangles placed around a pentagon which represents
5D

space... what this means is that 5D space is actually the realm of Psychic
Site

and 'Conception' of things from birth to death in time. So what this means is

Pentegrams are about manipulating/shaping reality via Psychic Intention....
thus

the US has a sacred Pentagon, and the Army uses an Upright Star as its symbol,

just as other countries have done on flags and banners.... if you haven't
already noticed...




Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@ wrote:

There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:



1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space.. but what
this really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space (aura)...it is
a

focal point in magick, with infinity merely an allegorical representation of
the

unrealized dark regions of the subconscious mind.

Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are
powerful.

They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and write circles with

intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than that, circles are used
for

things like casting personal spells, and of course for "Protection." If
anyone

tells you otherwise, they simply want you to lower your shields.



2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain magick,
energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality and so is the

reason they are so widely used.

3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality for the
physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take a look at a
square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in many groups), which

is basically the summoning of the 4 directions. Since triangles represent 3D,

people normally use physical items like a chalice, though I'm not sure if they

understand it that way.

4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to
understand, but...


Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4 sides... you

get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6 directions of space...
which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6 light. Squaring 6 gives you 36
(36

day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72 Goetia. Our beloved demons).




If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd love to
hear.
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Gravity is fourth dimensional. It is an 'invisible' link that connects objects with mass. Another way to think of the fourth dimension is as the interaction between wave particles such as neutrinos but as we know, they are on the same scale as sound and light, along with x and gamma rays. So that leaves the question are the dimensions a representation of real concepts or merely a method of the categorization of perception.

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@... wrote:

Interesting insight. If this is the case, then my theory is the 5th dimension
must also be like a totality of all that is around here and so would be dense
metaphorically speaking or heavy. I think maybe the 5th dimension is related to
gravity in some way. I could be wrong though. If there was math or physics or
something that spoke about that I'd find it very interesting, even if I'm not a
total math physics geek =)


Hail Satan!





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From: John Forsythe <ivan.folghera@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 5:20:10 AM
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Some Geometry meanings

In regards to number 3, the fourth dimension is actually an 'invisible' link
between two objects separated by space. For instance most spiritual energy is of
the fourth dimension, thusly allowing us to affect our environments without
physically manipulating them, using ritual and magic.

Time is merely a measurement of perception and its role as the fourth dimension
is not only widely discredited in scientific circles but the idea itself is
disproving.(my year 11 specialist math class gave me much insight into this)


Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana
<angelo.giancana@ wrote:

There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:



1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space.. but what this
really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space (aura)...it is a
focal point in magick, with infinity merely an allegorical representation of the
unrealized dark regions of the subconscious mind.

Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are powerful.
They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and write circles with
intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than that, circles are used for
things like casting personal spells, and of course for "Protection." If anyone
tells you otherwise, they simply want you to lower your shields.



2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain magick,
energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality and so is the
reason they are so widely used.

3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality for the
physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take a look at a
square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in many groups), which
is basically the summoning of the 4 directions. Since triangles represent 3D,
people normally use physical items like a chalice, though I'm not sure if they
understand it that way.

4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to understand,
but...


Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4 sides... you
get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6 directions of space...
which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6 light. Squaring 6 gives you 36 (36
day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72 Goetia. Our beloved demons).




If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd love to hear.



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Oh I can't believe what I'me reading here!!Are you for REAL?? First:

"Other than that, circles are used for things like casting personal spells, and of course for "Protection.""

Actually, circles ARE insulting, because of the mere thought of the Gods that they were used to abuse them. And Not in anyway a stupid circle can protect you from anything, this is a myth. You won't find any circles in JoS site on spells or rituals for example, this is just wiccan/golden dawn bs/western occultism bs. So I guess JoS and Satan and the Gods who tell us this us to "lower our shields" *chuckles*. Only your mind power can protect you, not a circle. Saying that you're using a circle for protection is like you're saying you only cast spell with items like idiotic wiccans and you don't use any mind powers.

Secondly: inverted and upright pyramids symbolize the top and lower chakras. "Heaven" and "hell" are also an allegory for crown and base chakras. The "bullshit" about "heaven" being "up in the sky" is because actually "heaven" IS up, it's the crown chakra on the top of your head. The crown chakra is blissful when activated, thats how xians stole it and made into heaven.

More about "heaven" and "hell", these are spiritual code words here:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... Words.html


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@... wrote:

I also forgot to point out:

Inverted triangle/pyramid simply symbolizes the underworld and ones subconscious self and powers. The upright triangle symbolizes conscious reality, which is the subconscious self emerging and is the "true heaven." It is bullshit that heaven is portrayed as being up in the sky. It is not, it is within the self and the reality around ones self.


Downright/upright triangles are allegorical for Heaven and Hell. When see from the Xian perspective, it programs you to fragment your mind to Heaven and Hell. When seen from the enlightened perspective... it can be seen as the Underworld (Subconscious) and Asgard (conscious 'shaped' reality).


When you do the real work, you deprogram yourself and clean out all the negative garbage, you take control...replace garbage with good things and unite both halves and this is when it becomes "The Golden Age", which you can see in Wikipedia which I believe is Satya Yuga.. don't believe all of it of course as it is corrupted to make you religious. The main meaning of Golden Age though is everything is good..your golden!


In regards to triangles and pentegrams and their upright and inverted meanings. NO it doesn't mean you are sending energy up into outer space. If you believe that, it is no different than thinking heaven is in the sky which I wrote about the Golden Age being here in present reality.

What it does mean is you are sending energy up out of the underworld to satanically bless your external reality which is actually outer space... outside of YOU! The world around you... So upright and downright triangles have similar meaning to pentegrams.


Pentegrams are simply 5 triangles placed around a pentagon which represents 5D space... what this means is that 5D space is actually the realm of Psychic Site and 'Conception' of things from birth to death in time. So what this means is Pentegrams are about manipulating/shaping reality via Psychic Intention.... thus the US has a sacred Pentagon, and the Army uses an Upright Star as its symbol, just as other countries have done on flags and banners.... if you haven't already noticed...




Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@... wrote:

There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:



1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space.. but what this really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space (aura)...it is a focal point in magick, with infinity merely an allegorical representation of the unrealized dark regions of the subconscious mind.

Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are powerful. They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and write circles with intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than that, circles are used for things like casting personal spells, and of course for "Protection." If anyone tells you otherwise, they simply want you to lower your shields.



2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain magick, energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality and so is the reason they are so widely used.

3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality for the physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take a look at a square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in many groups), which is basically the summoning of the 4 directions. Since triangles represent 3D, people normally use physical items like a chalice, though I'm not sure if they understand it that way.

4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to understand, but...

Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4 sides... you get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6 directions of space... which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6 light. Squaring 6 gives you 36 (36 day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72 Goetia. Our beloved demons).




If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd love to hear.



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P.S. The inverted and upright triangles also symbolize the elements of water and fire. These are basic alchemical symbols. The inverted triangle in particular was used to symbolize Satan before the Laveyan Baphomet as He is the Sumerian God Enki and of the water element (EA=the house of water in Sumerian). And of course, the upper and lower chakras like "heaven" and "hell". They have nothing to do with subconcious or other things. In fact, the Yggdrasil you mentioned symbolizes the human soul, the 9 knots are the 9 basic chakras, the 7 main ones and the Sun and Moon chakras above your head. The "worlds" are symbolic for the chakras.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@... wrote:

I also forgot to point out:

Inverted triangle/pyramid simply symbolizes the underworld and ones subconscious self and powers. The upright triangle symbolizes conscious reality, which is the subconscious self emerging and is the "true heaven." It is bullshit that heaven is portrayed as being up in the sky. It is not, it is within the self and the reality around ones self.


Downright/upright triangles are allegorical for Heaven and Hell. When see from the Xian perspective, it programs you to fragment your mind to Heaven and Hell. When seen from the enlightened perspective... it can be seen as the Underworld (Subconscious) and Asgard (conscious 'shaped' reality).


When you do the real work, you deprogram yourself and clean out all the negative garbage, you take control...replace garbage with good things and unite both halves and this is when it becomes "The Golden Age", which you can see in Wikipedia which I believe is Satya Yuga.. don't believe all of it of course as it is corrupted to make you religious. The main meaning of Golden Age though is everything is good..your golden!


In regards to triangles and pentegrams and their upright and inverted meanings. NO it doesn't mean you are sending energy up into outer space. If you believe that, it is no different than thinking heaven is in the sky which I wrote about the Golden Age being here in present reality.

What it does mean is you are sending energy up out of the underworld to satanically bless your external reality which is actually outer space... outside of YOU! The world around you... So upright and downright triangles have similar meaning to pentegrams.


Pentegrams are simply 5 triangles placed around a pentagon which represents 5D space... what this means is that 5D space is actually the realm of Psychic Site and 'Conception' of things from birth to death in time. So what this means is Pentegrams are about manipulating/shaping reality via Psychic Intention.... thus the US has a sacred Pentagon, and the Army uses an Upright Star as its symbol, just as other countries have done on flags and banners.... if you haven't already noticed...




Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@... wrote:

There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:



1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space.. but what this really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space (aura)...it is a focal point in magick, with infinity merely an allegorical representation of the unrealized dark regions of the subconscious mind.

Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are powerful. They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and write circles with intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than that, circles are used for things like casting personal spells, and of course for "Protection." If anyone tells you otherwise, they simply want you to lower your shields.



2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain magick, energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality and so is the reason they are so widely used.

3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality for the physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take a look at a square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in many groups), which is basically the summoning of the 4 directions. Since triangles represent 3D, people normally use physical items like a chalice, though I'm not sure if they understand it that way.

4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to understand, but...

Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4 sides... you get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6 directions of space... which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6 light. Squaring 6 gives you 36 (36 day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72 Goetia. Our beloved demons).




If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd love to hear.



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I disagree. Your symbolism isn't my symbolism =)


Circles represent a lot of different things. They are for one, representative of ones circle of thoughts. The subconscious and conscious mind have a feedback loop of where information is exchanged to and from in a circle. In the far east, of meditations like the Micro Cosmic orbit and other such exercises, there is a meridian line that runs down the front, between the legs, and then up the back and over the head ending back where it started. This is also representative of a circle or "loop." I'm surprised you think the subconscious has nothing to do with the soul. So basically you are telling me you are powerless... as everything on the JoS leads up to using "Mindpowers" of black and white magick in utilizing the strengthened soul.


All of these symbolisms are irrefutable as they already have established history before any xian or jew faith. A lot of it is from the far east and is far from being western occult.


Your argument isn't very convincing. My ideas contain a system of associations which have a basis in both physical and spiritual reality. Yours on the other hand from what I have observed seem to be based off faith. I'm not interested in reading a link, as I have already done that as well as my own research; I am interested in seeing your line of reasoning and logic as it pertains to the ideas you present.


the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

Oh I can't believe what I'me reading here!!Are you for REAL?? First:

"Other than that, circles are used for things like casting personal spells, and of course for "Protection.""

Actually, circles ARE insulting, because of the mere thought of the Gods that they were used to abuse them. And Not in anyway a stupid circle can protect you from anything, this is a myth. You won't find any circles in JoS site on spells or rituals for example, this is just wiccan/golden dawn bs/western occultism bs. So I guess JoS and Satan and the Gods who tell us this us to "lower our shields" *chuckles*. Only your mind power can protect you, not a circle. Saying that you're using a circle for protection is like you're saying you only cast spell with items like idiotic wiccans and you don't use any mind powers.

Secondly: inverted and upright pyramids symbolize the top and lower chakras. "Heaven" and "hell" are also an allegory for crown and base chakras. The "bullshit" about "heaven" being "up in the sky" is because actually "heaven" IS up, it's the crown chakra on the top of your head. The crown chakra is blissful when activated, thats how xians stole it and made into heaven.

More about "heaven" and "hell", these are spiritual code words here:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... Words.html


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@... wrote:

I also forgot to point out:

Inverted triangle/pyramid simply symbolizes the underworld and ones subconscious self and powers. The upright triangle symbolizes conscious reality, which is the subconscious self emerging and is the "true heaven." It is bullshit that heaven is portrayed as being up in the sky. It is not, it is within the self and the reality around ones self.


Downright/upright triangles are allegorical for Heaven and Hell. When see from the Xian perspective, it programs you to fragment your mind to Heaven and Hell. When seen from the enlightened perspective... it can be seen as the Underworld (Subconscious) and Asgard (conscious 'shaped' reality).


When you do the real work, you deprogram yourself and clean out all the negative garbage, you take control...replace garbage with good things and unite both halves and this is when it becomes "The Golden Age", which you can see in Wikipedia which I believe is Satya Yuga.. don't believe all of it of course as it is corrupted to make you religious. The main meaning of Golden Age though is everything is good..your golden!


In regards to triangles and pentegrams and their upright and inverted meanings. NO it doesn't mean you are sending energy up into outer space. If you believe that, it is no different than thinking heaven is in the sky which I wrote about the Golden Age being here in present reality.

What it does mean is you are sending energy up out of the underworld to satanically bless your external reality which is actually outer space... outside of YOU! The world around you... So upright and downright triangles have similar meaning to pentegrams.


Pentegrams are simply 5 triangles placed around a pentagon which represents 5D space... what this means is that 5D space is actually the realm of Psychic Site and 'Conception' of things from birth to death in time. So what this means is Pentegrams are about manipulating/shaping reality via Psychic Intention.... thus the US has a sacred Pentagon, and the Army uses an Upright Star as its symbol, just as other countries have done on flags and banners.... if you haven't already noticed...




Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@... wrote:

There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:



1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space.. but what this really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space (aura)...it is a focal point in magick, with infinity merely an allegorical representation of the unrealized dark regions of the subconscious mind.

Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are powerful. They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and write circles with intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than that, circles are used for things like casting personal spells, and of course for "Protection." If anyone tells you otherwise, they simply want you to lower your shields.



2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain magick, energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality and so is the reason they are so widely used.

3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality for the physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take a look at a square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in many groups), which is basically the summoning of the 4 directions. Since triangles represent 3D, people normally use physical items like a chalice, though I'm not sure if they understand it that way.

4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to understand, but...

Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4 sides... you get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6 directions of space... which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6 light. Squaring 6 gives you 36 (36 day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72 Goetia. Our beloved demons).




If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd love to hear.



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em fire,then we shouldnt use circle like hp vovim said?

Raising Death and Anguish From The Earth

- High Priest Vovim Baghie, Joy of Satan Ministries -



With your middle and index finger and using the Demonic Blue energy,
create a medium sized circle in front of you. This circle of Demonic
blue energy is to protect you by stopping your Aura from attaching to
the energy and to keep the Death energy in the circle. [You are just
basically creating a temporary thoughtform]

from hp vovim site,im confused,i thought the reason the demons hated
circles because idiots misused them n slavishly use the circles without
any real understanding of it true meaning.like the number three.



btw,what he mean by the circle being a thoughtform?

Now Perform the "Connecting with the Earth Meditation"
<mhtml:file://C:\Users\reihd\Videos\Raising Death and Anguish From The
Earth.mht!x-usc:http://www.vovimbaghie.co.cc/connecting ... rth.h&#92;
tml , once you are in tune with the pulse of the Earths energy, you can
begin to raise the death Energy.




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana
<angelo.giancana@... wrote:
I disagree. Your symbolism isn't my symbolism =)


Circles represent a lot of different things. They are for one,
representative of ones circle of thoughts. The subconscious and
conscious mind have a feedback loop of where information is exchanged to
and from in a circle. In the far east, of meditations like the Micro
Cosmic orbit and other such exercises, there is a meridian line that
runs down the front, between the legs, and then up the back and over the
head ending back where it started. This is also representative of a
circle or "loop." I'm surprised you think the subconscious has nothing
to do with the soul. So basically you are telling me you are
powerless... as everything on the JoS leads up to using "Mindpowers" of
black and white magick in utilizing the strengthened soul.
All of these symbolisms are irrefutable as they already have
established history before any xian or jew faith. A lot of it is from
the far east and is far from being western occult.
Your argument isn't very convincing. My ideas contain a system of
associations which have a basis in both physical and spiritual reality.
Yours on the other hand from what I have observed seem to be based off
faith. I'm not interested in reading a link, as I have already done that
as well as my own research; I am interested in seeing your line of
reasoning and logic as it pertains to the ideas you present.
the_fire_starter666 the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

Oh I can't believe what I'me reading here!!Are you for REAL?? First:

"Other than that, circles are used for things like casting personal
spells, and of course for "Protection.""
Actually, circles ARE insulting, because of the mere thought of the
Gods that they were used to abuse them. And Not in anyway a stupid
circle can protect you from anything, this is a myth. You won't find any
circles in JoS site on spells or rituals for example, this is just
wiccan/golden dawn bs/western occultism bs. So I guess JoS and Satan and
the Gods who tell us this us to "lower our shields" *chuckles*. Only
your mind power can protect you, not a circle. Saying that you're using
a circle for protection is like you're saying you only cast spell with
items like idiotic wiccans and you don't use any mind powers.
Secondly: inverted and upright pyramids symbolize the top and lower
chakras. "Heaven" and "hell" are also an allegory for crown and base
chakras. The "bullshit" about "heaven" being "up in the sky" is because
actually "heaven" IS up, it's the crown chakra on the top of your head.
The crown chakra is blissful when activated, thats how xians stole it
and made into heaven.
More about "heaven" and "hell", these are spiritual code words here:


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... Words.html


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana
angelo.giancana@ wrote:
I also forgot to point out:

Inverted triangle/pyramid simply symbolizes the underworld and ones
subconscious self and powers. The upright triangle symbolizes conscious
reality, which is the subconscious self emerging and is the "true
heaven." It is bullshit that heaven is portrayed as being up in the sky.
It is not, it is within the self and the reality around ones self.
Downright/upright triangles are allegorical for Heaven and Hell.
When see from the Xian perspective, it programs you to fragment your
mind to Heaven and Hell. When seen from the enlightened perspective...
it can be seen as the Underworld (Subconscious) and Asgard (conscious
'shaped' reality).
When you do the real work, you deprogram yourself and clean out all
the negative garbage, you take control...replace garbage with good
things and unite both halves and this is when it becomes "The Golden
Age", which you can see in Wikipedia which I believe is Satya Yuga..
don't believe all of it of course as it is corrupted to make you
religious. The main meaning of Golden Age though is everything is
good..your golden!
In regards to triangles and pentegrams and their upright and
inverted meanings. NO it doesn't mean you are sending energy up into
outer space. If you believe that, it is no different than thinking
heaven is in the sky which I wrote about the Golden Age being here in
present reality.
What it does mean is you are sending energy up out of the
underworld to satanically bless your external reality which is actually
outer space... outside of YOU! The world around you... So upright and
downright triangles have similar meaning to pentegrams.
Pentegrams are simply 5 triangles placed around a pentagon which
represents 5D space... what this means is that 5D space is actually the
realm of Psychic Site and 'Conception' of things from birth to death in
time. So what this means is Pentegrams are about manipulating/shaping
reality via Psychic Intention.... thus the US has a sacred Pentagon, and
the Army uses an Upright Star as its symbol, just as other countries
have done on flags and banners.... if you haven't already noticed...
Angelo Giancana angelo.giancana@ wrote:

There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:



1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space..
but what this really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space
(aura)...it is a focal point in magick, with infinity merely an
allegorical representation of the unrealized dark regions of the
subconscious mind.
Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are
powerful. They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and
write circles with intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than
that, circles are used for things like casting personal spells, and of
course for "Protection." If anyone tells you otherwise, they simply want
you to lower your shields.
2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain
magick, energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality
and so is the reason they are so widely used.
3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality
for the physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take
a look at a square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in
many groups), which is basically the summoning of the 4 directions.
Since triangles represent 3D, people normally use physical items like a
chalice, though I'm not sure if they understand it that way.
4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to
understand, but...
Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4
sides... you get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6
directions of space... which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6
light. Squaring 6 gives you 36 (36 day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72
Goetia. Our beloved demons).
If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd
love to hear.
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Not sure what he means by a circle being a thoughtform, but I know why it is. It plays into my whole concept of "closed loops" between a conscious and unconscious mind. Either way, you can think of it like a program that repeats certain tasks or patterns.

That is called a closed loop or circuit. Same concept as a circle. Our minds for the most part operate in a similar way, but because we are intelligent... we can step out of one circle of thinking and into another. That is only if one is able to change.


I don't know, as you can do whatever you want. You are a satanist.. with freewill and allegedly free thinking right? If ones mind and body didn't use closed loops, there would be chaos. You draw a circle to define your reality. That's what its used for. Its a focal point. Kind of like a vortex is circular. The swastika is also representative of a circular vortex.

If you do not define your reality, then other people and entities will end up doing it for you. You don't believe me? I grew up without using the barrier circle. I am an empath and learned the hard way of not using barriers. Then, of course when I asked for more advanced ways of dealing with this beyond shielding of the higher ups, not one had a real clue to my problem involving projection and empathy.


catloversforeva <catloversforeva@... wrote:

em fire,then we shouldnt use circle like hp vovim said?

Raising Death and Anguish From The Earth

- High Priest Vovim Baghie, Joy of Satan Ministries -



With your middle and index finger and using the Demonic Blue energy,
create a medium sized circle in front of you. This circle of Demonic
blue energy is to protect you by stopping your Aura from attaching to
the energy and to keep the Death energy in the circle. [You are just
basically creating a temporary thoughtform]

from hp vovim site,im confused,i thought the reason the demons hated
circles because idiots misused them n slavishly use the circles without
any real understanding of it true meaning.like the number three.



btw,what he mean by the circle being a thoughtform?

Now Perform the "Connecting with the Earth Meditation"
<mhtml:file://C:\Users\reihd\Videos\Raising Death and Anguish From The
Earth.mht!x-usc:http://www.vovimbaghie.co.cc/connecting ... rth.h&#92;
tml , once you are in tune with the pulse of the Earths energy, you can
begin to raise the death Energy.




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana
<angelo.giancana@... wrote:

I disagree. Your symbolism isn't my symbolism =)


Circles represent a lot of different things. They are for one,
representative of ones circle of thoughts. The subconscious and
conscious mind have a feedback loop of where information is exchanged to
and from in a circle. In the far east, of meditations like the Micro
Cosmic orbit and other such exercises, there is a meridian line that
runs down the front, between the legs, and then up the back and over the
head ending back where it started. This is also representative of a
circle or "loop." I'm surprised you think the subconscious has nothing
to do with the soul. So basically you are telling me you are
powerless... as everything on the JoS leads up to using "Mindpowers" of
black and white magick in utilizing the strengthened soul.


All of these symbolisms are irrefutable as they already have
established history before any xian or jew faith. A lot of it is from
the far east and is far from being western occult.


Your argument isn't very convincing. My ideas contain a system of
associations which have a basis in both physical and spiritual reality.
Yours on the other hand from what I have observed seem to be based off
faith. I'm not interested in reading a link, as I have already done that
as well as my own research; I am interested in seeing your line of
reasoning and logic as it pertains to the ideas you present.


the_fire_starter666 the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

Oh I can't believe what I'me reading here!!Are you for REAL?? First:

"Other than that, circles are used for things like casting personal
spells, and of course for "Protection.""

Actually, circles ARE insulting, because of the mere thought of the
Gods that they were used to abuse them. And Not in anyway a stupid
circle can protect you from anything, this is a myth. You won't find any
circles in JoS site on spells or rituals for example, this is just
wiccan/golden dawn bs/western occultism bs. So I guess JoS and Satan and
the Gods who tell us this us to "lower our shields" *chuckles*. Only
your mind power can protect you, not a circle. Saying that you're using
a circle for protection is like you're saying you only cast spell with
items like idiotic wiccans and you don't use any mind powers.

Secondly: inverted and upright pyramids symbolize the top and lower
chakras. "Heaven" and "hell" are also an allegory for crown and base
chakras. The "bullshit" about "heaven" being "up in the sky" is because
actually "heaven" IS up, it's the crown chakra on the top of your head.
The crown chakra is blissful when activated, thats how xians stole it
and made into heaven.

More about "heaven" and "hell", these are spiritual code words here:


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... Words.html


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana
angelo.giancana@ wrote:

I also forgot to point out:

Inverted triangle/pyramid simply symbolizes the underworld and ones
subconscious self and powers. The upright triangle symbolizes conscious
reality, which is the subconscious self emerging and is the "true
heaven." It is bullshit that heaven is portrayed as being up in the sky.
It is not, it is within the self and the reality around ones self.


Downright/upright triangles are allegorical for Heaven and Hell.
When see from the Xian perspective, it programs you to fragment your
mind to Heaven and Hell. When seen from the enlightened perspective...
it can be seen as the Underworld (Subconscious) and Asgard (conscious
'shaped' reality).


When you do the real work, you deprogram yourself and clean out all
the negative garbage, you take control...replace garbage with good
things and unite both halves and this is when it becomes "The Golden
Age", which you can see in Wikipedia which I believe is Satya Yuga..
don't believe all of it of course as it is corrupted to make you
religious. The main meaning of Golden Age though is everything is
good..your golden!


In regards to triangles and pentegrams and their upright and
inverted meanings. NO it doesn't mean you are sending energy up into
outer space. If you believe that, it is no different than thinking
heaven is in the sky which I wrote about the Golden Age being here in
present reality.

What it does mean is you are sending energy up out of the
underworld to satanically bless your external reality which is actually
outer space... outside of YOU! The world around you... So upright and
downright triangles have similar meaning to pentegrams.


Pentegrams are simply 5 triangles placed around a pentagon which
represents 5D space... what this means is that 5D space is actually the
realm of Psychic Site and 'Conception' of things from birth to death in
time. So what this means is Pentegrams are about manipulating/shaping
reality via Psychic Intention.... thus the US has a sacred Pentagon, and
the Army uses an Upright Star as its symbol, just as other countries
have done on flags and banners.... if you haven't already noticed...




Angelo Giancana angelo.giancana@ wrote:

There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:



1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space..
but what this really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space
(aura)...it is a focal point in magick, with infinity merely an
allegorical representation of the unrealized dark regions of the
subconscious mind.

Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are
powerful. They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and
write circles with intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than
that, circles are used for things like casting personal spells, and of
course for "Protection." If anyone tells you otherwise, they simply want
you to lower your shields.



2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain
magick, energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality
and so is the reason they are so widely used.

3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality
for the physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take
a look at a square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in
many groups), which is basically the summoning of the 4 directions.
Since triangles represent 3D, people normally use physical items like a
chalice, though I'm not sure if they understand it that way.

4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to
understand, but...

Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4
sides... you get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6
directions of space... which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6
light. Squaring 6 gives you 36 (36 day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72
Goetia. Our beloved demons).




If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd
love to hear.



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well if u spin a swastika really fast it became a black dot/circle


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@... wrote:

Not sure what he means by a circle being a thoughtform, but I know why it is. It plays into my whole concept of "closed loops" between a conscious and unconscious mind. Either way, you can think of it like a program that repeats certain tasks or patterns.

That is called a closed loop or circuit. Same concept as a circle. Our minds for the most part operate in a similar way, but because we are intelligent... we can step out of one circle of thinking and into another. That is only if one is able to change.


I don't know, as you can do whatever you want. You are a satanist.. with freewill and allegedly free thinking right? If ones mind and body didn't use closed loops, there would be chaos. You draw a circle to define your reality. That's what its used for. Its a focal point. Kind of like a vortex is circular. The swastika is also representative of a circular vortex.

If you do not define your reality, then other people and entities will end up doing it for you. You don't believe me? I grew up without using the barrier circle. I am an empath and learned the hard way of not using barriers. Then, of course when I asked for more advanced ways of dealing with this beyond shielding of the higher ups, not one had a real clue to my problem involving projection and empathy.


catloversforeva <catloversforeva@... wrote:


em fire,then we shouldnt use circle like hp vovim said?

Raising Death and Anguish From The Earth

- High Priest Vovim Baghie, Joy of Satan Ministries -



With your middle and index finger and using the Demonic Blue energy,
create a medium sized circle in front of you. This circle of Demonic
blue energy is to protect you by stopping your Aura from attaching to
the energy and to keep the Death energy in the circle. [You are just
basically creating a temporary thoughtform]

from hp vovim site,im confused,i thought the reason the demons hated
circles because idiots misused them n slavishly use the circles without
any real understanding of it true meaning.like the number three.



btw,what he mean by the circle being a thoughtform?

Now Perform the "Connecting with the Earth Meditation"
<mhtml:file://C:\Users\reihd\Videos\Raising Death and Anguish From The
Earth.mht!x-usc:http://www.vovimbaghie.co.cc/connecting ... rth.h&#92;
tml , once you are in tune with the pulse of the Earths energy, you can
begin to raise the death Energy.




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana
<angelo.giancana@ wrote:

I disagree. Your symbolism isn't my symbolism =)


Circles represent a lot of different things. They are for one,
representative of ones circle of thoughts. The subconscious and
conscious mind have a feedback loop of where information is exchanged to
and from in a circle. In the far east, of meditations like the Micro
Cosmic orbit and other such exercises, there is a meridian line that
runs down the front, between the legs, and then up the back and over the
head ending back where it started. This is also representative of a
circle or "loop." I'm surprised you think the subconscious has nothing
to do with the soul. So basically you are telling me you are
powerless... as everything on the JoS leads up to using "Mindpowers" of
black and white magick in utilizing the strengthened soul.


All of these symbolisms are irrefutable as they already have
established history before any xian or jew faith. A lot of it is from
the far east and is far from being western occult.


Your argument isn't very convincing. My ideas contain a system of
associations which have a basis in both physical and spiritual reality.
Yours on the other hand from what I have observed seem to be based off
faith. I'm not interested in reading a link, as I have already done that
as well as my own research; I am interested in seeing your line of
reasoning and logic as it pertains to the ideas you present.


the_fire_starter666 the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

Oh I can't believe what I'me reading here!!Are you for REAL?? First:

"Other than that, circles are used for things like casting personal
spells, and of course for "Protection.""

Actually, circles ARE insulting, because of the mere thought of the
Gods that they were used to abuse them. And Not in anyway a stupid
circle can protect you from anything, this is a myth. You won't find any
circles in JoS site on spells or rituals for example, this is just
wiccan/golden dawn bs/western occultism bs. So I guess JoS and Satan and
the Gods who tell us this us to "lower our shields" *chuckles*. Only
your mind power can protect you, not a circle. Saying that you're using
a circle for protection is like you're saying you only cast spell with
items like idiotic wiccans and you don't use any mind powers.

Secondly: inverted and upright pyramids symbolize the top and lower
chakras. "Heaven" and "hell" are also an allegory for crown and base
chakras. The "bullshit" about "heaven" being "up in the sky" is because
actually "heaven" IS up, it's the crown chakra on the top of your head.
The crown chakra is blissful when activated, thats how xians stole it
and made into heaven.

More about "heaven" and "hell", these are spiritual code words here:


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... Words.html


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana
angelo.giancana@ wrote:

I also forgot to point out:

Inverted triangle/pyramid simply symbolizes the underworld and ones
subconscious self and powers. The upright triangle symbolizes conscious
reality, which is the subconscious self emerging and is the "true
heaven." It is bullshit that heaven is portrayed as being up in the sky.
It is not, it is within the self and the reality around ones self.


Downright/upright triangles are allegorical for Heaven and Hell.
When see from the Xian perspective, it programs you to fragment your
mind to Heaven and Hell. When seen from the enlightened perspective...
it can be seen as the Underworld (Subconscious) and Asgard (conscious
'shaped' reality).


When you do the real work, you deprogram yourself and clean out all
the negative garbage, you take control...replace garbage with good
things and unite both halves and this is when it becomes "The Golden
Age", which you can see in Wikipedia which I believe is Satya Yuga..
don't believe all of it of course as it is corrupted to make you
religious. The main meaning of Golden Age though is everything is
good..your golden!


In regards to triangles and pentegrams and their upright and
inverted meanings. NO it doesn't mean you are sending energy up into
outer space. If you believe that, it is no different than thinking
heaven is in the sky which I wrote about the Golden Age being here in
present reality.

What it does mean is you are sending energy up out of the
underworld to satanically bless your external reality which is actually
outer space... outside of YOU! The world around you... So upright and
downright triangles have similar meaning to pentegrams.


Pentegrams are simply 5 triangles placed around a pentagon which
represents 5D space... what this means is that 5D space is actually the
realm of Psychic Site and 'Conception' of things from birth to death in
time. So what this means is Pentegrams are about manipulating/shaping
reality via Psychic Intention.... thus the US has a sacred Pentagon, and
the Army uses an Upright Star as its symbol, just as other countries
have done on flags and banners.... if you haven't already noticed...




Angelo Giancana angelo.giancana@ wrote:

There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:



1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space..
but what this really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space
(aura)...it is a focal point in magick, with infinity merely an
allegorical representation of the unrealized dark regions of the
subconscious mind.

Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are
powerful. They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and
write circles with intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than
that, circles are used for things like casting personal spells, and of
course for "Protection." If anyone tells you otherwise, they simply want
you to lower your shields.



2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain
magick, energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality
and so is the reason they are so widely used.

3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality
for the physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take
a look at a square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in
many groups), which is basically the summoning of the 4 directions.
Since triangles represent 3D, people normally use physical items like a
chalice, though I'm not sure if they understand it that way.

4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to
understand, but...

Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4
sides... you get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6
directions of space... which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6
light. Squaring 6 gives you 36 (36 day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72
Goetia. Our beloved demons).




If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd
love to hear.



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