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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@... wrote:
Not sure what he means by a circle being a thoughtform, but I know why it is. It plays into my whole concept of "closed loops" between a conscious and unconscious mind. Either way, you can think of it like a program that repeats certain tasks or patterns.
That is called a closed loop or circuit. Same concept as a circle. Our minds for the most part operate in a similar way, but because we are intelligent... we can step out of one circle of thinking and into another. That is only if one is able to change.
I don't know, as you can do whatever you want. You are a satanist.. with freewill and allegedly free thinking right? If ones mind and body didn't use closed loops, there would be chaos. You draw a circle to define your reality. That's what its used for. Its a focal point. Kind of like a vortex is circular. The swastika is also representative of a circular vortex.
If you do not define your reality, then other people and entities will end up doing it for you. You don't believe me? I grew up without using the barrier circle. I am an empath and learned the hard way of not using barriers. Then, of course when I asked for more advanced ways of dealing with this beyond shielding of the higher ups, not one had a real clue to my problem involving projection and empathy.
catloversforeva <catloversforeva@... wrote:
em fire,then we shouldnt use circle like hp vovim said?
Raising Death and Anguish From The Earth
- High Priest Vovim Baghie, Joy of Satan Ministries -
With your middle and index finger and using the Demonic Blue energy,
create a medium sized circle in front of you. This circle of Demonic
blue energy is to protect you by stopping your Aura from attaching to
the energy and to keep the Death energy in the circle. [You are just
basically creating a temporary thoughtform]
from hp vovim site,im confused,i thought the reason the demons hated
circles because idiots misused them n slavishly use the circles without
any real understanding of it true meaning.like the number three.
btw,what he mean by the circle being a thoughtform?
Now Perform the "Connecting with the Earth Meditation"
<mhtml:file://C:\Users\reihd\Videos\Raising Death and Anguish From The
Earth.mht!x-usc:
http://www.vovimbaghie.co.cc/connecting ... rth.h\
tml , once you are in tune with the pulse of the Earths energy, you can
begin to raise the death Energy.
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<angelo.giancana@ wrote:
I disagree. Your symbolism isn't my symbolism =)
Circles represent a lot of different things. They are for one,
representative of ones circle of thoughts. The subconscious and
conscious mind have a feedback loop of where information is exchanged to
and from in a circle. In the far east, of meditations like the Micro
Cosmic orbit and other such exercises, there is a meridian line that
runs down the front, between the legs, and then up the back and over the
head ending back where it started. This is also representative of a
circle or "loop." I'm surprised you think the subconscious has nothing
to do with the soul. So basically you are telling me you are
powerless... as everything on the JoS leads up to using "Mindpowers" of
black and white magick in utilizing the strengthened soul.
All of these symbolisms are irrefutable as they already have
established history before any xian or jew faith. A lot of it is from
the far east and is far from being western occult.
Your argument isn't very convincing. My ideas contain a system of
associations which have a basis in both physical and spiritual reality.
Yours on the other hand from what I have observed seem to be based off
faith. I'm not interested in reading a link, as I have already done that
as well as my own research; I am interested in seeing your line of
reasoning and logic as it pertains to the ideas you present.
the_fire_starter666 the_fire_starter666@ wrote:
Oh I can't believe what I'me reading here!!Are you for REAL?? First:
"Other than that, circles are used for things like casting personal
spells, and of course for "Protection.""
Actually, circles ARE insulting, because of the mere thought of the
Gods that they were used to abuse them. And Not in anyway a stupid
circle can protect you from anything, this is a myth. You won't find any
circles in JoS site on spells or rituals for example, this is just
wiccan/golden dawn bs/western occultism bs. So I guess JoS and Satan and
the Gods who tell us this us to "lower our shields" *chuckles*. Only
your mind power can protect you, not a circle. Saying that you're using
a circle for protection is like you're saying you only cast spell with
items like idiotic wiccans and you don't use any mind powers.
Secondly: inverted and upright pyramids symbolize the top and lower
chakras. "Heaven" and "hell" are also an allegory for crown and base
chakras. The "bullshit" about "heaven" being "up in the sky" is because
actually "heaven" IS up, it's the crown chakra on the top of your head.
The crown chakra is blissful when activated, thats how xians stole it
and made into heaven.
More about "heaven" and "hell", these are spiritual code words here:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... Words.html
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angelo.giancana@ wrote:
I also forgot to point out:
Inverted triangle/pyramid simply symbolizes the underworld and ones
subconscious self and powers. The upright triangle symbolizes conscious
reality, which is the subconscious self emerging and is the "true
heaven." It is bullshit that heaven is portrayed as being up in the sky.
It is not, it is within the self and the reality around ones self.
Downright/upright triangles are allegorical for Heaven and Hell.
When see from the Xian perspective, it programs you to fragment your
mind to Heaven and Hell. When seen from the enlightened perspective...
it can be seen as the Underworld (Subconscious) and Asgard (conscious
'shaped' reality).
When you do the real work, you deprogram yourself and clean out all
the negative garbage, you take control...replace garbage with good
things and unite both halves and this is when it becomes "The Golden
Age", which you can see in Wikipedia which I believe is Satya Yuga..
don't believe all of it of course as it is corrupted to make you
religious. The main meaning of Golden Age though is everything is
good..your golden!
In regards to triangles and pentegrams and their upright and
inverted meanings. NO it doesn't mean you are sending energy up into
outer space. If you believe that, it is no different than thinking
heaven is in the sky which I wrote about the Golden Age being here in
present reality.
What it does mean is you are sending energy up out of the
underworld to satanically bless your external reality which is actually
outer space... outside of YOU! The world around you... So upright and
downright triangles have similar meaning to pentegrams.
Pentegrams are simply 5 triangles placed around a pentagon which
represents 5D space... what this means is that 5D space is actually the
realm of Psychic Site and 'Conception' of things from birth to death in
time. So what this means is Pentegrams are about manipulating/shaping
reality via Psychic Intention.... thus the US has a sacred Pentagon, and
the Army uses an Upright Star as its symbol, just as other countries
have done on flags and banners.... if you haven't already noticed...
Angelo Giancana angelo.giancana@ wrote:
There are many meanings to this. But in terms of practicallity:
1). Circles: its said it represents infinity and focused space..
but what this really means is a circle in magick is ones centering space
(aura)...it is a focal point in magick, with infinity merely an
allegorical representation of the unrealized dark regions of the
subconscious mind.
Let's not be stupid here. Circles cannot trap demons, as they are
powerful. They know us better than we know ourselves. If you use and
write circles with intent to trap, then it is disrespectful. Other than
that, circles are used for things like casting personal spells, and of
course for "Protection." If anyone tells you otherwise, they simply want
you to lower your shields.
2). Triangles: these are used in conjuration of entities, certain
magick, energy, spirits, etc. They are 3 sided to represent 3D reality
and so is the reason they are so widely used.
3). Squares: people think in terms of mostly 3D, but true reality
for the physical world is actually Space+Time (4D). If you were to take
a look at a square further, you'd get 4 triangles of art (term used in
many groups), which is basically the summoning of the 4 directions.
Since triangles represent 3D, people normally use physical items like a
chalice, though I'm not sure if they understand it that way.
4) Cube: an offshoot of a square and something I'm still trying to
understand, but...
Since each corner of a square is a triangle (3) and there are 4
sides... you get 3x4=12. By giving it depth (6D), you have the 6
directions of space... which leads to 6+6= 12 which is 6 dark and 6
light. Squaring 6 gives you 36 (36 day and 36 night demons...36+36= 72
Goetia. Our beloved demons).
If you have real occult knowledge pertaining to #4... then I'd
love to hear.
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