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Saturn: A Verdict On Everyones Favorite Planet?

Djinn Draconis

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I know you have an opinion on Saturn. I have one too, or at least I used to. Now I have a collection of the different opinions which exist about Saturn that I am posting here.
Saturn has been discussed to death for years now in these groups and in lots of other places on the internet, but that's cause there is no planet which is disagreed about as much as our friend Saturn.

So what's the truth?

Is Saturn just our enemy in every sense of the word with no positive qualities whatsoever?

Is Saturn of the enemy? And if so why would a planet of the enemy as it's been mentioned, rule our base chakra and our skeletal system? Makes no sense to me, but if you know something about that which I'm missing please say.

Is Saturn connected to Satan? Both names have to do with opposition and sound very much alike, both are related to the base chakra and the sign of the Goat also. In fact Satan's two Zodiac signs Capricorn and Aquarius are ruled by Saturn or were so historically.

Is Saturn just the strict disciplinarian type who's only harsh on you for your own good?

Or is Saturn just like every other planet with it's fair share of good and bad qualities? After all it does rule the career, government, status, authority, etc. These things are pretty good if you can obtain them for yourself.
Not to mention many of the very wealthy people do have Saturn in their money houses or a strong Saturn in there charts as it's mentioned on a number of astrology websites, 2nd & 8th notably but also 11th and 6th. But then of course the poor do also have the same placements.

Share your opinion, thoughts, knowledge. It's best to accept sometimes that there are some things we just don't know yet and that's the conclusion or lack there of; I'm left with when it comes to Saturn. But always looking to learn more so please talk.

HAIL SATAN!!
Praise Be To Hell!
 
Personally I kind of like it. It could be because everyone else hates it and Uranus conjunct my ascendant makes me a hipster. Or it could be Saturn in my first house and my Capricorn ascendant, I feel like I understand the planet well.
Someone with a weak Saturn is like a spoilt brat that's never been punished. Or just ridiculous people like that woman Maxine said had the Sun-Venus conjunction that was out of touch with reality. I really believe Saturn gave me a big dose of sanity, if it wasn't in my 1st house I'd probably be under government supervision or I'd be addicted to meth or something.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Djinn Draconis" <xxrygelxx@... wrote:

I know you have an opinion on Saturn. I have one too, or at least I used to. Now I have a collection of the different opinions which exist about Saturn that I am posting here.
Saturn has been discussed to death for years now in these groups and in lots of other places on the internet, but that's cause there is no planet which is disagreed about as much as our friend Saturn.

So what's the truth?

Is Saturn just our enemy in every sense of the word with no positive qualities whatsoever?

Is Saturn of the enemy? And if so why would a planet of the enemy as it's been mentioned, rule our base chakra and our skeletal system? Makes no sense to me, but if you know something about that which I'm missing please say.

Is Saturn connected to Satan? Both names have to do with opposition and sound very much alike, both are related to the base chakra and the sign of the Goat also. In fact Satan's two Zodiac signs Capricorn and Aquarius are ruled by Saturn or were so historically.

Is Saturn just the strict disciplinarian type who's only harsh on you for your own good?

Or is Saturn just like every other planet with it's fair share of good and bad qualities? After all it does rule the career, government, status, authority, etc. These things are pretty good if you can obtain them for yourself.
Not to mention many of the very wealthy people do have Saturn in their money houses or a strong Saturn in there charts as it's mentioned on a number of astrology websites, 2nd & 8th notably but also 11th and 6th. But then of course the poor do also have the same placements.

Share your opinion, thoughts, knowledge. It's best to accept sometimes that there are some things we just don't know yet and that's the conclusion or lack there of; I'm left with when it comes to Saturn. But always looking to learn more so please talk.

HAIL SATAN!!
Praise Be To Hell!
 
I believe Saturn's so-called evil influences are just necessary. A world without boundaries and restrictions wouldn't sustain itself as it currently is. Capricorn represents the necessary structure to improve and reach the higher level of power and awareness, which is represented by Aquarius.

Saturn is responsible for testing and improving us before we reach Uranus, i.e. freedom, the superhuman state.

When the first Saturn Return occurs, the person has gone through all possible aspects between Saturn and the natal planets, and is then considered (astrologically) mature, a real adult. While it's not necessary to wait until the first Saturn Return, this marks the ideal time to perform the Magnum Opus.

From this point of view, Saturn can be considered "positive" or at least neutral. A powerful individual with enough knowledge can direct and take advantage from any planet's influences. Humanity has yet to reach the necessary level of awareness and spiritual power to naturally overcome Saturnian earthly difficulties; in other words, reach the Uranian state of true freedom.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Djinn Draconis" <xxrygelxx@... wrote:

I know you have an opinion on Saturn. I have one too, or at least I used to. Now I have a collection of the different opinions which exist about Saturn that I am posting here.
Saturn has been discussed to death for years now in these groups and in lots of other places on the internet, but that's cause there is no planet which is disagreed about as much as our friend Saturn.

So what's the truth?

Is Saturn just our enemy in every sense of the word with no positive qualities whatsoever?

Is Saturn of the enemy? And if so why would a planet of the enemy as it's been mentioned, rule our base chakra and our skeletal system? Makes no sense to me, but if you know something about that which I'm missing please say.

Is Saturn connected to Satan? Both names have to do with opposition and sound very much alike, both are related to the base chakra and the sign of the Goat also. In fact Satan's two Zodiac signs Capricorn and Aquarius are ruled by Saturn or were so historically.

Is Saturn just the strict disciplinarian type who's only harsh on you for your own good?

Or is Saturn just like every other planet with it's fair share of good and bad qualities? After all it does rule the career, government, status, authority, etc. These things are pretty good if you can obtain them for yourself.
Not to mention many of the very wealthy people do have Saturn in their money houses or a strong Saturn in there charts as it's mentioned on a number of astrology websites, 2nd & 8th notably but also 11th and 6th. But then of course the poor do also have the same placements.

Share your opinion, thoughts, knowledge. It's best to accept sometimes that there are some things we just don't know yet and that's the conclusion or lack there of; I'm left with when it comes to Saturn. But always looking to learn more so please talk.

HAIL SATAN!!
Praise Be To Hell!
 
I can agree with you. Whilst Saturn is called malefic not without a reason, it is because of the jewish race that the Cronian energy is abused, hence the misfortunes.

If we were developed, Saturn would only help us structuring our deeds and lives - yet he can wreak havoc because we're so exposed to its malignant energies. Not to mention being promoted by the RHP as the grat teacher - what bs.

The 3rd paragraph of your post F.follets is a beautiful summary ^^

Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@... wrote:

I believe Saturn's so-called evil influences are just necessary. A world without boundaries and restrictions wouldn't sustain itself as it currently is. Capricorn represents the necessary structure to improve and reach the higher level of power and awareness, which is represented by Aquarius.

Saturn is responsible for testing and improving us before we reach Uranus, i.e. freedom, the superhuman state.

When the first Saturn Return occurs, the person has gone through all possible aspects between Saturn and the natal planets, and is then considered (astrologically) mature, a real adult. While it's not necessary to wait until the first Saturn Return, this marks the ideal time to perform the Magnum Opus.

From this point of view, Saturn can be considered "positive" or at least neutral. A powerful individual with enough knowledge can direct and take advantage from any planet's influences. Humanity has yet to reach the necessary level of awareness and spiritual power to naturally overcome Saturnian earthly difficulties; in other words, reach the Uranian state of true freedom.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Djinn Draconis" <xxrygelxx@ wrote:

I know you have an opinion on Saturn. I have one too, or at least I used to. Now I have a collection of the different opinions which exist about Saturn that I am posting here.
Saturn has been discussed to death for years now in these groups and in lots of other places on the internet, but that's cause there is no planet which is disagreed about as much as our friend Saturn.

So what's the truth?

Is Saturn just our enemy in every sense of the word with no positive qualities whatsoever?

Is Saturn of the enemy? And if so why would a planet of the enemy as it's been mentioned, rule our base chakra and our skeletal system? Makes no sense to me, but if you know something about that which I'm missing please say.

Is Saturn connected to Satan? Both names have to do with opposition and sound very much alike, both are related to the base chakra and the sign of the Goat also. In fact Satan's two Zodiac signs Capricorn and Aquarius are ruled by Saturn or were so historically.

Is Saturn just the strict disciplinarian type who's only harsh on you for your own good?

Or is Saturn just like every other planet with it's fair share of good and bad qualities? After all it does rule the career, government, status, authority, etc. These things are pretty good if you can obtain them for yourself.
Not to mention many of the very wealthy people do have Saturn in their money houses or a strong Saturn in there charts as it's mentioned on a number of astrology websites, 2nd & 8th notably but also 11th and 6th. But then of course the poor do also have the same placements.

Share your opinion, thoughts, knowledge. It's best to accept sometimes that there are some things we just don't know yet and that's the conclusion or lack there of; I'm left with when it comes to Saturn. But always looking to learn more so please talk.

HAIL SATAN!!
Praise Be To Hell!
 
I completely agree. Nicely put as well.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@... wrote:

I believe Saturn's so-called evil influences are just necessary. A world without boundaries and restrictions wouldn't sustain itself as it currently is. Capricorn represents the necessary structure to improve and reach the higher level of power and awareness, which is represented by Aquarius.

Saturn is responsible for testing and improving us before we reach Uranus, i.e. freedom, the superhuman state.

When the first Saturn Return occurs, the person has gone through all possible aspects between Saturn and the natal planets, and is then considered (astrologically) mature, a real adult. While it's not necessary to wait until the first Saturn Return, this marks the ideal time to perform the Magnum Opus.

From this point of view, Saturn can be considered "positive" or at least neutral. A powerful individual with enough knowledge can direct and take advantage from any planet's influences. Humanity has yet to reach the necessary level of awareness and spiritual power to naturally overcome Saturnian earthly difficulties; in other words, reach the Uranian state of true freedom.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Djinn Draconis" <xxrygelxx@ wrote:

I know you have an opinion on Saturn. I have one too, or at least I used to. Now I have a collection of the different opinions which exist about Saturn that I am posting here.
Saturn has been discussed to death for years now in these groups and in lots of other places on the internet, but that's cause there is no planet which is disagreed about as much as our friend Saturn.

So what's the truth?

Is Saturn just our enemy in every sense of the word with no positive qualities whatsoever?

Is Saturn of the enemy? And if so why would a planet of the enemy as it's been mentioned, rule our base chakra and our skeletal system? Makes no sense to me, but if you know something about that which I'm missing please say.

Is Saturn connected to Satan? Both names have to do with opposition and sound very much alike, both are related to the base chakra and the sign of the Goat also. In fact Satan's two Zodiac signs Capricorn and Aquarius are ruled by Saturn or were so historically.

Is Saturn just the strict disciplinarian type who's only harsh on you for your own good?

Or is Saturn just like every other planet with it's fair share of good and bad qualities? After all it does rule the career, government, status, authority, etc. These things are pretty good if you can obtain them for yourself.
Not to mention many of the very wealthy people do have Saturn in their money houses or a strong Saturn in there charts as it's mentioned on a number of astrology websites, 2nd & 8th notably but also 11th and 6th. But then of course the poor do also have the same placements.

Share your opinion, thoughts, knowledge. It's best to accept sometimes that there are some things we just don't know yet and that's the conclusion or lack there of; I'm left with when it comes to Saturn. But always looking to learn more so please talk.

HAIL SATAN!!
Praise Be To Hell!
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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