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[email protected], "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@... wrote:
I want to clarify something it is the done thing when requesting the help of a Demon to offer something in return. In this case it isn't about money or value because you can't put a value on what We do for each other you can't put a price on everything our Gods do for Us. In most cases what They seem to want most is for Us to do something to spread the Truth and clear Their names of the dirt that has been heaped on Them. Something that shows you appreciate Their effort and time, perhaps a drawing or poem if you are so talented but There are many ways it is more about Thanks and gratitude. About Taking back what was originally Ours and Our Gods in the first place.
Another way is They spend a lot of time listening to Us and all our problems and concerns, taking an interest in our lives but When do We try to listen to Them? What They have been through and really get to know Them for who They really are? We don't really know that much about Their home, what They have there, those who had spent time here with Us... is there anything they miss from Earth? A favourite place? animal? food or drink? Do They have a favourite peice of music or art perhaps if you ask and They find a way to tell you you could play that music for Them in a ritual, find some art They like bring some of Their favourite food or drink and 'share' astrally with Them. Put up pictures on your altar of their favourite places or animals etc. These are just ideas and may sound simple but would mean a lot and show you really care about Them. For all you know They may not have these things on Their world. They like Humans and find Us interesting They wouldn't spend so much time helping and interacting with Us if They didn't especially after all the abuse.
Does that make sense? As you come to know Them personally you will understand I hope. Sometimes They will just do things for you you didn't even expect or ask for. When you care about someone it isn't about 'payment' you naturally will want to thank Them and do something for Them. Noone is keeping a score here. All the work and time put into the Joy Of Satan it is the Truth it can't be bought and sold. Asking for donations to help the research and effort etc and advancing Satanism obviously helps. It also costs money to print CD's and Books but it isn't the Truth being sold but the paper and materials. Something for the time sure.
We don't 'sell' our Souls to Satan anymore than he sold us anything. He created Us because He wanted to He didn't sell Souls or knowledge. He didn't ask for payment for what He did. To show we appreciate all He has done for Us we need to USE IT as He intended. It was a Gift.
We all have to earn a living here and there are plenty of good honest ways to make money but selling the Truth isn't one of them in my opinion.
Hail Satan
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[email protected], "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@ wrote:
I actually do make some of my own clothes, jewellery, grow some of my own food, and build things myself, not a whole house but I would if I had the skills. Is it hard work? yes and so is advancing the Soul. Am I saying trading is bad? Of course not I also sell things I make and barter. But what I am seeing in this world are people such as in China and India being used and abused for cheap labour by kikes making dirt cheap low quality products and under cutting the rest of the world. Shops are full of made in china crap and to sell this crap so cheap you know many people are being paid next to nothing and suffering so the rest of us can get whatever we want. People want cheap cheap cheap and the kike system that keeps so many on low wages promotes this.
Even the materials I look for to make my own things are often made in china and it takes effort to find goods that are not.
The small buisness, small scale trader, the small home farmers people who have worked hard to develop skills in making goods can barely make any money now because they cannot sell it for what it is worth, cannot compete with cheap made in china stuff or big corps and comercial farms. Those that undercut the little guy by producing shit goods by the suffering of those in poor countries and by polluting the land and hurting animals.
I look at our ancestors and see what they could do, people had skills that today are being lost. People knew how to make and do things themselves. And they made quality. It was not a system of production line products all the same, beige boring rubbish. Look at the old buildings and how wonderfully decorated and built they were to stand hundreds and thousands of years. The beautifull old books with handbound covers with gilded gold edges. The giant stone statues, the knowledge the average household had of medicine and plants, they knew how to grow things and how to preserve them and use them. The kike has worked to strip these qualities from the Gentiles and render us helpless.
Imagine if all the shops shut down tomorrow and the economy collapsed. What would people do? All the people crammed in tiny boxes called units stacked into the sky in the cities who buy their meals in boxes from a feezer and don't know how to do anything themselves? If you rely on everyone else to make everything for you, do everything for you to the point you could not survive without modern convinience you are fucked if shit hits the fan.
That mindest is weak, it is dependant on a system that could fall any moment.
We live in a world now where our food comes in neat packages off a shelf with no thought of how it got there, where products come off production lines from big factories and this whole system is run by kikes. Where most people work jobs they hate to make money to buy shit they don't need to impress idiots they don't even like. Thats a saying I heard, I like it and how true. Who stops to think of where all that packaging and waste from mass manufacturing goes after you toss it in the bin? Out of sight out of mind?
Those who spread Knowledge of Satanism are not looking for payment. It is about pride, honour and love for our Gentile people, our herritage and our Gods. We do it for Satan. If He chooses to reward Us for helping Him wonderfull but We don't do it expecting Him to pay up or something. He made Us, He created our Souls and gave Us a great power and who is anyone to question WHY? Who is anyone to question WHY He chooses to help any one of Us? If There is one being in this universe I don't question it is SATAN He has proved Himself countless times it is about Love, Trust and Respect.
There is nothing stopping anyone here from developing a relationship with Satan and finding all this knowledge themselves by doing all the same long hours of study our HP's have done. They do it for Satan because They are gratefull because They care? Because these are things that were stollen from Us by the kikes twisted and then sold back as lies! When there is a buck to be made in 'selling' knowledge you can be damn sure to be sold lies. Lies sell...make up a bigger better lie than the last guy you could get more money just have a look in new age bookstores for the proof.
There are things in life more important and sacred than payment as you advance you find this out for yourself.
I don't pay people for love or friendship and That is what we seek to build with Our Gods. This is family it isn't about who owes whom what.
Satan does not hold this 'you owe me' over our heads. He just loves Us it is that simple the enemy religions have done much damage to ruin that message by twisting it around that fake god of theirs but Satan actually does genuinely Love His creation without demanding anything in return that is a very rare and honourable trait in this universe. We give back to Him because We want to.
And ask yourselves those of you who want to avoid hard work how do you think Satan became the most advanced and powerfull God He is? By paying someone else to do the hard work for Him? He advanced His own Soul He did it all Himself. He gave the gift to Us so We can do the same. He had to start somewhere once too... do We forget that? Just think about it yourself for a while.
We have it easy in comparrison. He has paved the way, if you have ever heard the term the 'well worn path' that is thrown around amongst the wiccans and new age pagans... when I hear that I think yet again this is Satan's path and that of our GODS who advanced first and now They pass that on to Us. We walk that Path now.
Maybe one day in the future We will be The Gods also Who pass This on again with ever more knowledge added to it. That is how it goes... over so much time and experience and life.
Of course trade is important and I hope my message did not come accross that I am against trading and money. I am not I am against the way the kikes have used this against Us. The way they have made victims and slaves out of us to money. The way we live in a world of mass produced crap made through suffering where people cannot do anything themselves and rely on the system. Learn even one skill one specialty. One craft.. that you could use to better yourself and those around you. In a crisis you could use that skill to trade with others who have skills. An example could be wood work, or growing some spices. Sewing or tailoring. Something people would need and come to you for. Something you can do for yourself. It is charactor and confidence building. People see and respect you for it.
I am going to have a go at making my first home made plum jam this week. I picked a bucket load of plums today from my own tree and it is going to be the best jam I have ever had the fruit smells amazing. If there is one thing I will start telling everyone to try at least once in life... it is this. Get a pot a nice wide pot and some good soil and plant some strawberries. Find an old fashioned variety of strawberry or another fruit if you prefer but even those who dont like straberries change their mind after tasting ones grown at home. Oh my you havn't lived until you have tasted something fresh and organic you have grown yourself plus you can feel the energy enter your body the fresher it is. You only need a balcony or sunny windowsill to do it. But I warn you... it is addictive and you will hate the taste of store bought after you do it! And a last little tip... as a Satanist with knowledge of energy and empowering things you can draw energy into your plants and home grown food! You can charge your own food with energy it is wonderfull.
Hail Satan
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[email protected], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:
Trading is far more efficient that doing everything yourself.
Imagine how difficult it would be to make you own clothes, grow and cook your own food, build your own house, etc etc.
Money isn't evil guys, being rich isn't bad.
I'll give a scenario:
Let's say in the future I decided to become a businessman and a researcher.(I probably will)
I decided that my product with be servitors that will make people more beautiful. (More of a brain enhancement kind of guy)
Now lets say people buy my servitor at the lowest possible price, I barely make ends meet. Let's say they pay me a little bit more, I hire an assistant and we both make servitors, more servitors for sale, more people benefiting. And so on it goes. The more money I get for each servitor the more research and development I can do.
Now concerning knowledge being for sale.
A portion of my life would be going to that research: to get a better word of power, just like how a portion of anyone's life goes into creating whatever at their present workplace. Or how a portion of Satan's life goes into him teaching. By paying someone for their time, both parties benefits. The researcher can continue researching, the payer get's the product. By not paying someone for their time, they are your slave. The payment of course may not be in money, but at the end of the day, money is merely a holder of value, it represents value in a physical form.
If I were to say that I have a right to knowledge, who's knowledge. It would be a form of slavery. Let's say I decide that Maxine MUST give me all her spiritual knowledge, and I don't have to pay her at all. All those hours spent in research. All that work.
What does that make her relative to me? My slave. I get value from her, she get's nothing from me.
The sooner there is a fully rationally functioning occult economy the better. It's like a difference between a Communist state and America. The standard of living is way higher in America.
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[email protected], "blacksun1142" <blacksun1142@ wrote:
You are missing the point about what Satanism is about. This collective mindset is kike infested. The catholic priests are getting paid because xianity is a program and a business. Satanism is about elevating one's self to higher levels. It's about becoming a God and learning. Not about providing 'services' and getting paid. Every Satanist needs to learn how to do everything by themselves. Satanism is not a 'career'. It's the path to Godhood.
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[email protected], "abraham172" <abraham172@ wrote:
Hello brothers and sisters
I was thinking about satanism as a career. Like why do catholic priests get paid for their stupid xian bullshit but we cant get paid? Maybe once everybody accepts satan as their true creator god satanism would be a career. tell me your opinions about satanism as a career.do you think it would work outt?