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HP Maxine has said in her cd sermons that she has no problem with getting down on her knees before her altar to give thanks and worship to Satan. I do the same, it is good to show Satan we love him, and the Xians do not OWN worship. It is a personal matter, I happen to do it out of respect and reverence, nothing wrong with that. You don't have to "grovel"...we know we are worthy.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "liberate4free" wrote:

I personally bow to Satan in respect. Relationships with Satan is personnel. Satan doesn't demand nor ever push anything on us, everything you do is for yourself and, respect and admiration for him.

Then again, it also depends on ones past lives and how long you have been with Satan. Just as everything even Bowing and kneeling has been corrupted by RHP. In India,it is practiced even today but out of fear, to not anger the Gods or to seek something materially, to erase karma. I could give plenty of reasons not one of them is for respect and admiration and giving thanks. Even animals bow to a higher power, not literally.

The point of doing a ritual is to establish a lost or create a new connection with Satan and Gods of Duat. Every time a ritual is performed we move closer to the gods and, strengthens our bond with Satan.

Heil Enki!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" wrote:

And since when a healthy pride is wrong? Pride of something we did ON OUR OWN? Would you deny a child the pride when it did something him/herself and say 'no, I taught you this and it is thanks to mommy/daddy that you did it'?

"Humility - the quality of not thinking you are better than other people." ['Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary', 7th ed., 2005, Oxford : Oxford University Press].

And just don't try to say that we should feel better, because it has been stated we need to stand as EQUALS.

Xians are for ever told they're worse, that they have to be servile, meek - which stands in contrast to a healthy Satanic pride.

Source link please.

If the rituals are conducted DAILY, one may do it DAILY. But it is done so because of the FREQUENCY of the rituals and the RITUALS themselves, not necessarily a gratitude. This is respect shown to our Father which He is. The same thing should be shown to one another, regardless of the position. Respect - not slavish worship because of whatever reason.

Besides, there is a difference in thanking Satan and being proud that it is we who did this or that without the help of Demons - self-reliance is the ultimate goal, is it not?

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:

I bow before Satan. Maxine Talked about how she would Kneel before her
Altar everyday. She says in a sermon. "There is nothing wronge with
getting down and showing some Grattitude, I have."

I do not know where this Mentality of not being able to Show
Grattitude or Humility to Satan has come from. It certainly has not come
from the Joy Of Satan Ministries.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "En Haradren Amlug" wrote:

I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original
post stands.

We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG
at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow
down slavishly, but stand as comrads.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En Haradren Amlug.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do
not
want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not
be
directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing
against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make
sure
the newer ones do not go to far with it.

Hail Myself!!

No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan
and gives his praise.

What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded
differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power
within
yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take
control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan.
However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have.

Hail Satan!!!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" wrote:

Hehehe, correct indeed.

Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the
xian
slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something
they
themselves did. Just like the sheep.

And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must
not
forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist
will
not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything
to
Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post.

We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to
us
whether or not to follow it.

As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are
indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction.

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "no.state" wrote:

For what it's worth to anyone here:

I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces
opposed
to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation
requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians
and
their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear
hat"
after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name.

Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless
automation of
thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But
I've
never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from
Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians.

Thank you, Enki. Thank you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God
after
all. Without him we would not even exist. When you get to much
into this
I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish
nature.
Along
with thinking you are better then other Satanists.

Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not
seeing
we
need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters.
Needing to
work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours.

Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise
him
Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only
trust
certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods.

So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail
Satan!!!!






--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Siatris Teloah wrote:

I don't think I'm necessarily better at explaining it, but
rereading
your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to
eye
on
this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was
xian(baptised
cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know
the
other
perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is
like. A
road to nowhere.



________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...


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I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do.


________________________________
From: Siatris Teloah
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

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I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of
attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly
as I
can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make
things
happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their
false
piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance
of
good
luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for
good
things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts
that
my
spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's
nothing
wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself
because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be
present
for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful
because
it
is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.
Â
Hail Satan!!


________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

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Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two
cents
in, but
I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest.
Once I
realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even
without
that spiritual repercussions of it) I became disgusted
with that
sort of subconscious slave mentality.

Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out
of
their
way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer
their
kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in
their
faces
and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that
Satan
has
given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think,
express
our
gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can
at
advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our
shackles as
xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be
worshipped,
(in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts
to
put us
on our feet.

________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided' and
other...

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I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have
a
problem, the same which can be observed among others who did
not
fully
deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something
"If I
am
given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable
is
how he
did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change
"Satan" to
"god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also
indicates
blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The
reason is
simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did
via
our
effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the
Gods
really
did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people
should
take
the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the
jewish
slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or
does
anyone
else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et
Vita
est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!
 
   Also Most Importantly is 14:30 - 14:58. I think it will quite nicely put an end to all this nonsense.   Thank you Brian for your most lovely Comment. It was very Motivating.    
--- In [email protected], Brian Gibbons wrote:

I was just talking to Raven about this that when their ship lands here again I see all Gentiles kneeling before the true God if this Earth.


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nothing at all is wrong with showing our Father gratitude. We do so because we love Him and He loves us

Hail Satan
Hail AsmodeusHail the Gods and Goddesses
 
Those of you that do not accept that we bow/kneel before our Father Satan, I find it difficult to understand why you have taken this path.

We kneel to show our appreciation, honor. We do not get down and continuously slavish worship him. We stand proud, but we still kneel at times. This doesn't mean we kneel/bow whenever we are in his presence.. There are times when WE OURSELVES WHO ARE TRULY HIS WARRIORS WILL KNOW WHY AND WHEN TO KNEEL!!

This discussion cannot continue, there is nothing more to prove, those of you that don't accept the fact that we kneel before Father Satan, I suggest you sit back and ask yourself if you are a real warrior of Father Satan. And stop trying to push your luck here by influencing the new and weak minded.

Hail Satan!!
Hail Volac!!
Hail Beezlebub!!
Hail Orobas!!
Hail Clauneck!!Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!From: Micama Gmicalzoma <agentofsatanswill666@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:36:18 -0800 (PST)To: [email protected]<[email protected]ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
  You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.

Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.

I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.

 Hail Father Satan!!
Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan

From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

  Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not.

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "En Haradren Amlug" wrote:

I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands.

We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En Haradren Amlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not
want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be
directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing
against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure
the newer ones do not go to far with it.

Hail Myself!!

No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan
and gives his praise.

What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded
differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within
yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take
control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan.
However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have.

Hail Satan!!!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" wrote:

Hehehe, correct indeed.

Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian
slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they
themselves did. Just like the sheep.

And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not
forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will
not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to
Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post.

We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us
whether or not to follow it.

As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are
indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction.

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "no.state" wrote:

For what it's worth to anyone here:

I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed
to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation
requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and
their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat"
after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name.

Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of
thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've
never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from
Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians.

Thank you, Enki. Thank you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God
after
all. Without him we would not even exist. When you get to much
into this
I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature.
Along
with thinking you are better then other Satanists.

Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing
we
need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters.
Needing to
work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours.

Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him
Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust
certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods.

So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail
Satan!!!!






--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Siatris Teloah wrote:

I don't think I'm necessarily better at explaining it, but
rereading
your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye
on
this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised
cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the
other
perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is
like. A
road to nowhere.



________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...


Â

I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do.


________________________________
From: Siatris Teloah
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of
attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I
can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make
things
happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their
false
piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of
good
luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good
things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that
my
spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's
nothing
wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself
because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be
present
for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because
it
is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.
Â
Hail Satan!!


________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents
in, but
I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I
realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even
without
that spiritual repercussions of it) I became disgusted
with that
sort of subconscious slave mentality.

Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of
their
way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their
kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their
faces
and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan
has
given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express
our
gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at
advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our
shackles as
xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be
worshipped,
(in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to
put us
on our feet.

________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided' and
other...

Â
I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a
problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not
fully
deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I
am
given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is
how he
did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change
"Satan" to
"god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also
indicates
blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The
reason is
simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via
our
effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods
really
did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should
take
the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the
jewish
slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does
anyone
else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita
est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!

 
Or a quick head bow when you make eye contact, at least where I live in a more friendly city, with men at least. Also dosent Japan do that? Bow with their hands together.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Don Danko wrote:

This thread should not be about attacking personal loyality to Satan and how one choses to show this, either by bowing or standing during ritual. If people want to maintain a philosopical disscussion, great. But not a insult filled back and forth of who is holyer then thou.
 
In the previous world. Bowing was a sign of respect to another. The traditional greeting was a quick bow with clasped hands and a honouring of each other's spiritual being. It was also a way of showing respect to a master who had earned it. The kings where also the High Priests and were selected by a council for being the best of them all. The ancient world was based on a close respect for people. Even a noble would pay respects to a farmer and like wise back.
 
The closest modern day equivalent of this in the West would be in the military with the salute.
 


________________________________
From: Micama Gmicalzoma
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:36:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...


 

You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving
EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.

I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.



Hail Father Satan!!

Forever in the Service of Satan.

From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan



________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

 
Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not. Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "En Haradren Amlug" wrote: I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands. We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads. Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old! -En Haradren Amlug. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "aldric.strickland" wrote: There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did
it ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure the newer ones do not go to far with it. Hail Myself!! No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan and gives his praise. What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan. However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have. Hail Satan!!!! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "siguarddraconis" wrote:
Hehehe, correct indeed. Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they themselves did. Just like the sheep. And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post. We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us whether or not to follow it. As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction. Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "no.state" wrote:
For what it's worth to anyone here: I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat" after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name. Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians. Thank you, Enki. Thank you. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "aldric.strickland" wrote: I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God after all. Without
him we would not even exist. When you get to much into this I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature. Along with thinking you are better then other Satanists. Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing we need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters. Needing to work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours. Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods. So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail Satan!!!! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, Siatris Teloah wrote: I don't think I'm
necessarily better at explaining it, but rereading your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye on this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the other perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is like. A road to nowhere. ________________________________ From: Gus Hinson To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do. ________________________________ From: Siatris Teloah
To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make things happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their false piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of good luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that my spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be present for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because it is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.  Hail Satan!! ________________________________ From: Gus Hinson To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents in, but I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even without that spiritual repercussions of it) I became disgusted with that sort of
subconscious slave mentality. Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of their way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their faces and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan has given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express our gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our shackles as xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be worshipped, (in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to put us on our feet. ________________________________ From: siguarddraconis To: mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other... Â I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not fully deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I am given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is how he did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change "Satan" to "god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also indicates blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The reason is simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via our effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods really did for us, and for which
we can be grateful. Such people should take the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the jewish slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does anyone else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!
 
The Japanese still show this by bowing to each other. The more 'looked up' to the person to them the deeper the bow. The more closer to their own 'rank' the more casual the bow. Not bowing to them would show disrespect, again this is only a mere fact. We'll do as we will.Hail Satan!

On 20 Jan 2013, at 10:07, Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:
  This thread should not be about attacking personal loyality to Satan and how one choses to show this, either by bowing or standing during ritual. If people want to maintain a philosopical disscussion, great. But not a insult filled back and forth of who is holyer then thou.  In the previous world. Bowing was a sign of respect to another. The traditional greeting was a quick bow with clasped hands and a honouring of each other's spiritual being. It was also a way of showing respect to a master who had earned it. The kings where also the High Priests and were selected by a council for being the best of them all. The ancient world was based on a close respect for people. Even a noble would pay respects to a farmer and like wise back.  The closest modern day equivalent of this in the West would be in the military with the salute. 
From: Micama Gmicalzoma <agentofsatanswill666@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:36:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
  You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you. Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.
I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.

 Hail Father Satan!!
Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan

From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
  Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not. Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "En Haradren Amlug" wrote: I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands. We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads. Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old! -En Haradren Amlug. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "aldric.strickland" wrote: There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure the newer ones do not go to far with it. Hail Myself!! No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan and gives his praise. What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan. However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have. Hail Satan!!!! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "siguarddraconis" wrote: Hehehe, correct indeed. Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they themselves did. Just like the sheep. And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post. We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us whether or not to follow it. As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction. Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "no.state" wrote: For what it's worth to anyone here: I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat" after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name. Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians. Thank you, Enki. Thank you. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "aldric.strickland" wrote: I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God after all. Without him we would not even exist. When you get to much into this I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature. Along with thinking you are better then other Satanists. Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing we need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters. Needing to work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours. Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods. So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail Satan!!!! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, Siatris Teloah wrote: I don't think I'm necessarily better at explaining it, but rereading your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye on this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the other perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is like. A road to nowhere. ________________________________ From: Gus Hinson To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do. ________________________________ From: Siatris Teloah To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make things happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their false piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of good luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that my spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself because of your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be present for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because it is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.  Hail Satan!! ________________________________ From: Gus Hinson To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents in, but I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even without that spiritual repercussions of it) I became disgusted with that sort of subconscious slave mentality. Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of their way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their faces and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan has given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express our gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our shackles as xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be worshipped, (in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to put us on our feet. ________________________________ From: siguarddraconis To: mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not fully deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I am given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is how he did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change "Satan" to "god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also indicates blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The reason is simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via our effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods really did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should take the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the jewish slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does anyone else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!
 
<td val[/IMG]I have always heard that to bow in the East means"I bow to the God inside of you" is that true Don or just more BS?


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<td val[/IMG]   This thread should not be about attacking personal loyality to Satan and how one choses to show this, either by bowing or standing during ritual. If people want to maintain a philosopical disscussion, great. But not a insult filled back and forth of who is holyer then thou.  In the previous world. Bowing was a sign of respect to another. The traditional greeting was a quick bow with clasped hands and a honouring of each other's spiritual being. It was also a way of showing respect to a master who had earned it. The kings where also the High Priests and were selected by a council for being the best of them all. The ancient world was based on a close respect for people. Even a noble would pay respects to a farmer and like wise back.  The closest modern day equivalent of this in the West would be in the military with the salute. 
From: Micama Gmicalzoma <agentofsatanswill666@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:36:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
  You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you. Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.
I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.

 Hail Father Satan!!
Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III: "I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan

From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@...
To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
  A[/IMG][/IMG][/IMG][/IMG][/IMG][/IMG][/IMG][/IMG][/IMG][/IMG]mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other... Â I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not fully deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I am given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is how he did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change "Satan" to "god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also indicates blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The reason is simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via our effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods really did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should take the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the jewish slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does anyone else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! [/QUOTE] [/TD]
 
Exactly. I kneel in front of my alter on a frequent basis, and during Every Ritual. Though this is not required. I really Shouldn't have apologized like I did, first of all I did nothing wrong. I AM NOT SORRY. The real reason why I said that is because I have to be careful as Not to cause an in-fight, because I know this would be against Father Satan's Will. I was stating the facts as I saw fit. There is nothing wrong with that.
Bowing to Satan out of RESPECT and Adoration is a Beautiful thing, and Very Personal. We are NOT Unconscious Xians for doing such, that is a bunch of bullshit. Furthermore, who among us has the right to decide what IS or IS NOT acceptable? No One! If you want to bow that's fine, if you want to stand that's perfectly fine too. You can do a Ritual in a Black Robe, Jeans and T-shirt or butt naked, it Doesn't Matter. The only thing that does matter is your Thoughts, Desires and Intentions. Isn't Satanism Freedom?? YES!
We all listen to and Respect the Clergy of the Joy of Satan Ministries. Why? Do they tell us what to do or how to live? No. We listen to them and Respect them because they KNOW what they are talking about. Let's take High Priestess Maxine Dietrich for example. She was listening to and seeing Our Gods before ANY of us did. She has an Immaculate record of being correct concerning Spiritual Satanism. I think we should all pay attention to what is being said in this sermon. To even entertain the thought that Anyone in these groups knows better than the JoS Clergy is just Insanity. They have been appointed By SATAN Himself, this is for a Specific Reason! They are Not mediators, rather Secondary Teachers to the Gods of Hell.

**** IF YOU ARE NEW MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEAR THIS SERMON ****
Take a Listen, and take it to Heart:Joy of Satan: Satanic Ministry - High Priestess Maxine Dietrich Sermon'shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNvgwcOS1I

Hail Father Satan!!
Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan
From: "royalblueflame666@..." <royalblueflame666@...
To: Jos main E-group email address <[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

  Those of you that do not accept that we bow/kneel before our Father Satan, I find it difficult to understand why you have taken this path.

We kneel to show our appreciation, honor. We do not get down and continuously slavish worship him. We stand proud, but we still kneel at times. This doesn't mean we kneel/bow whenever we are in his presence.. There are times when WE OURSELVES WHO ARE TRULY HIS WARRIORS WILL KNOW WHY AND WHEN TO KNEEL!!

This discussion cannot continue, there is nothing more to prove, those of you that don't accept the fact that we kneel before Father Satan, I suggest you sit back and ask yourself if you are a real warrior of Father Satan. And stop trying to push your luck here by influencing the new and weak minded.

Hail Satan!!
Hail Volac!!
Hail Beezlebub!!
Hail Orobas!!
Hail Clauneck!!Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!<hr>From: Micama Gmicalzoma <agentofsatanswill666@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:36:18 -0800 (PST)To: [email protected]<[email protected]ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
  You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.

Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.

I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.

 Hail Father Satan!!
Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan

From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

  Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not.

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "En Haradren Amlug" wrote:

I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands.

We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En Haradren Amlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not
want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be
directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing
against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure
the newer ones do not go to far with it.

Hail Myself!!

No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan
and gives his praise.

What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded
differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within
yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take
control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan.
However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have.

Hail Satan!!!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" wrote:

Hehehe, correct indeed.

Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian
slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they
themselves did. Just like the sheep.

And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not
forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will
not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to
Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post.

We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us
whether or not to follow it.

As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are
indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction.

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "no.state" wrote:

For what it's worth to anyone here:

I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed
to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation
requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and
their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat"
after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name.

Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of
thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've
never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from
Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians.

Thank you, Enki. Thank you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God
after
all. Without him we would not even exist. When you get to much
into this
I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature.
Along
with thinking you are better then other Satanists.

Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing
we
need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters.
Needing to
work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours.

Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him
Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust
certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods.

So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail
Satan!!!!






--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Siatris Teloah wrote:

I don't think I'm necessarily better at explaining it, but
rereading
your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye
on
this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised
cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the
other
perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is
like. A
road to nowhere.



________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...


Â

I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do.


________________________________
From: Siatris Teloah
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of
attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I
can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make
things
happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their
false
piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of
good
luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good
things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that
my
spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's
nothing
wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself
because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be
present
for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because
it
is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.
Â
Hail Satan!!


________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents
in, but
I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I
realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even
without
that spiritual repercussions of it) I became disgusted
with that
sort of subconscious slave mentality.

Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of
their
way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their
kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their
faces
and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan
has
given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express
our
gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at
advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our
shackles as
xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be
worshipped,
(in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to
put us
on our feet.

________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided' and
other...

Â
I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a
problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not
fully
deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I
am
given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is
how he
did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change
"Satan" to
"god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also
indicates
blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The
reason is
simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via
our
effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods
really
did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should
take
the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the
jewish
slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does
anyone
else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita
est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!



 
<td val[/IMG]can you send that in a working link for my phone please?


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]
From: Micama Gmicalzoma <agentofsatanswill666@...;
To: [email protected] <[email protected];
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 3:08:14 AM

<td val[/IMG]   Exactly. I kneel in front of my alter on a frequent basis, and during Every Ritual. Though this is not required. I really Shouldn't have apologized like I did, first of all I did nothing wrong. I AM NOT SORRY. The real reason why I said that is because I have to be careful as Not to cause an in-fight, because I know this would be against Father Satan's Will. I was stating the facts as I saw fit. There is nothing wrong with that.
Bowing to Satan out of RESPECT and Adoration is a Beautiful thing, and Very Personal. We are NOT Unconscious Xians for doing such, that is a bunch of bullshit. Furthermore, who among us has the right to decide what IS or IS NOT acceptable? No One! If you want to bow that's fine, if you want to stand that's perfectly fine too. You can do a Ritual in a Black Robe, Jeans and T-shirt or butt naked, it Doesn't Matter. The only thing that does matter is your Thoughts, Desires and Intentions. Isn't Satanism Freedom?? YES!
We all listen to and Respect the Clergy of the Joy of Satan Ministries. Why? Do they tell us what to do or how to live? No. We listen to them and Respect them because they KNOW what they are talking about. Let's take High Priestess Maxine Dietrich for example. She was listening to and seeing Our Gods before ANY of us did. She has an Immaculate record of being correct concerning Spiritual Satanism. I think we should all pay attention to what is being said in this sermon. To even entertain the thought that Anyone in these groups knows better than the JoS Clergy is just Insanity. They have been appointed By SATAN Himself, this is for a Specific Reason! They are Not mediators, rather Secondary Teachers to the Gods of Hell.

**** IF YOU ARE NEW MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEAR THIS SERMON ****
Take a Listen, and take it to Heart:Joy of Satan: Satanic Ministry - High Priestess Maxine Dietrich Sermon's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNvgwcOS1I

Hail Father Satan!!
Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan
From: "royalblueflame666@..." <royalblueflame666@...
To: Jos main E-group email address <[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

  Those of you that do not accept that we bow/kneel before our Father Satan, I find it difficult to understand why you have taken this path.

We kneel to show our appreciation, honor. We do not get down and continuously slavish worship him. We stand proud, but we still kneel at times. This doesn't mean we kneel/bow whenever we are in his presence.. There are times when WE OURSELVES WHO ARE TRULY HIS WARRIORS WILL KNOW WHY AND WHEN TO KNEEL!!

This discussion cannot continue, there is nothing more to prove, those of you that don't accept the fact that we kneel before Father Satan, I suggest you sit back and ask yourself if you are a real warrior of Father Satan. And stop trying to push your luck here by influencing the new and weak minded.

Hail Satan!!
Hail Volac!!
Hail Beezlebub!!
Hail Orobas!!
Hail Clauneck!!Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!<hr> From: Micama Gmicalzoma <agentofsatanswill666@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:36:18 -0800 (PST) To: [email protected] <[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
  You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.

Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.

I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.

 Hail Father Satan!!
Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan

From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@...
To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

  Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not.

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!

--- [/IMG][email protected], "En Haradren Amlug" wrote:

I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands.

We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En Haradren Amlug.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not
want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be
directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing
against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure
the newer ones do not go to far with it.

Hail Myself!!

No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan
and gives his praise.

What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded
differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within
yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take
control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan.
However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have.

Hail Satan!!!!


--- [/IMG][email protected], "siguarddraconis" wrote:

Hehehe, correct indeed.

Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian
slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they
themselves did. Just like the sheep.

And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not
forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will
not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to
Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post.

We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us
whether or not to follow it.

As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are
indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction.

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!

--- [/IMG][email protected], "no.state" wrote:

For what it's worth to anyone here:

I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed
to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation
requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and
their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat"
after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name.

Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of
thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've
never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from
Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians.

Thank you, Enki. Thank you.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God
after
all. Without him we would not even exist. When you get to much
into this
I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature.
Along
with thinking you are better then other Satanists.

Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing
we
need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters.
Needing to
work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours.

Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him
Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust
certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods.

So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail
Satan!!!!






--- [/IMG][email protected], Siatris Teloah wrote:

I don't think I'm necessarily better at explaining it, but
rereading
your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye
on
this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised
cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the
other
perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is
like. A
road to nowhere.



________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "<a rel="nofollow">[email protected]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...


Â

I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do.


________________________________
From: Siatris Teloah
To: "<a rel="nofollow">[email protected]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of
attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I
can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make
things
happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their
false
piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of
good
luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good
things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that
my
spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's
nothing
wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself
because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be
present
for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because
it
is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.
Â
Hail Satan!!


________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "<a rel="nofollow">[email protected]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents
in, but
I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I
realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even
without
that spiritual repercussions of it) I became disgusted
with that
sort of subconscious slave mentality.

Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of
their
way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their
kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their
faces
and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan
has
given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express
our
gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at
advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our
shackles as
xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be
worshipped,
(in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to
put us
on our feet.

________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: <a rel="nofollow">[email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided' and
other...

Â
I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a
problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not
fully
deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I
am
given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is
how he
did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change
"Satan" to
"god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also
indicates
blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The
reason is
simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via
our
effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods
really
did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should
take
the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the
jewish
slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does
anyone
else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita
est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!



[/TD]
 
<td val[/IMG]remember as I said before I suck at this s*** and I don't know how to type in right so if you could send me a link that be really great.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...;
To: JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups com <[email protected]; agentofsatanswill666@... <agentofsatanswill666@...;
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 3:24:57 AM

<td val[/IMG]  
<td val[/IMG]can you send that in a working link for my phone please?


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]
From: Micama Gmicalzoma <agentofsatanswill666@...;
To: [email protected] <[email protected];
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 3:08:14 AM

<td val[/IMG]   Exactly. I kneel in front of my alter on a frequent basis, and during Every Ritual. Though this is not required. I really Shouldn't have apologized like I did, first of all I did nothing wrong. I AM NOT SORRY. The real reason why I said that is because I have to be careful as Not to cause an in-fight, because I know this would be against Father Satan's Will. I was stating the facts as I saw fit. There is nothing wrong with that.
Bowing to Satan out of RESPECT and Adoration is a Beautiful thing, and Very Personal. We are NOT Unconscious Xians for doing such, that is a bunch of bullshit. Furthermore, who among us has the right to decide what IS or IS NOT acceptable? No One! If you want to bow that's fine, if you want to stand that's perfectly fine too. You can do a Ritual in a Black Robe, Jeans and T-shirt or butt naked, it Doesn't Matter. The only thing that does matter is your Thoughts, Desires and Intentions. Isn't Satanism Freedom?? YES!
We all listen to and Respect the Clergy of the Joy of Satan Ministries. Why? Do they tell us what to do or how to live? No. We listen to them and Respect them because they KNOW what they are talking about. Let's take High Priestess Maxine Dietrich for example. She was listening to and seeing Our Gods before ANY of us did. She has an Immaculate record of being correct concerning Spiritual Satanism. I think we should all pay attention to what is being said in this sermon. To even entertain the thought that Anyone in these groups knows better than the JoS Clergy is just Insanity. They have been appointed By SATAN Himself, this is for a Specific Reason! They are Not mediators, rather Secondary Teachers to the Gods of Hell.

**** IF YOU ARE NEW MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEAR THIS SERMON ****
Take a Listen, and take it to Heart:Joy of Satan: Satanic Ministry - High Priestess Maxine Dietrich Sermon's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNvgwcOS1I

Hail Father Satan!!
Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan
From: "royalblueflame666@..." <royalblueflame666@...
To: Jos main E-group email address <[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

  Those of you that do not accept that we bow/kneel before our Father Satan, I find it difficult to understand why you have taken this path.

We kneel to show our appreciation, honor. We do not get down and continuously slavish worship him. We stand proud, but we still kneel at times. This doesn't mean we kneel/bow whenever we are in his presence.. There are times when WE OURSELVES WHO ARE TRULY HIS WARRIORS WILL KNOW WHY AND WHEN TO KNEEL!!

This discussion cannot continue, there is nothing more to prove, those of you that don't accept the fact that we kneel before Father Satan, I suggest you sit back and ask yourself if you are a real warrior of Father Satan. And stop trying to push your luck here by influencing the new and weak minded.

Hail Satan!!
Hail Volac!!
Hail Beezlebub!!
Hail Orobas!!
Hail Clauneck!!Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!<hr> From: Micama Gmicalzoma <agentofsatanswill666@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:36:18 -0800 (PST) To: [email protected] <[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
  You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.

Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.

I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.

 Hail Father Satan!!
Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan

From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@...
To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

  Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not.

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!

--- [/IMG][email protected], "En Haradren Amlug" wrote:

I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands.

We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En Haradren Amlug.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not
want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be
directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing
against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure
the newer ones do not go to far with it.

Hail Myself!!

No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan
and gives his praise.

What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded
differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within
yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take
control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan.
However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have.

Hail Satan!!!!


--- [/IMG][email protected], "siguarddraconis" wrote:

Hehehe, correct indeed.

Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian
slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they
themselves did. Just like the sheep.

And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not
forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will
not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to
Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post.

We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us
whether or not to follow it.

As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are
indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction.

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!

--- [/IMG][email protected], "no.state" wrote:

For what it's worth to anyone here:

I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed
to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation
requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and
their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat"
after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name.

Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of
thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've
never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from
Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians.

Thank you, Enki. Thank you.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God
after
all. Without him we would not even exist. When you get to much
into this
I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature.
Along
with thinking you are better then other Satanists.

Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing
we
need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters.
Needing to
work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours.

Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him
Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust
certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods.

So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail
Satan!!!!






--- [/IMG][email protected], Siatris Teloah wrote:

I don't think I'm necessarily better at explaining it, but
rereading
your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye
on
this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised
cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the
other
perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is
like. A
road to nowhere.



________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "<a rel="nofollow">[email protected]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...


Â

I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do.


________________________________
From: Siatris Teloah
To: "<a rel="nofollow">[email protected]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of
attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I
can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make
things
happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their
false
piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of
good
luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good
things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that
my
spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's
nothing
wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself
because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be
present
for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because
it
is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.
Â
Hail Satan!!


________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "<a rel="nofollow">[email protected]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents
in, but
I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I
realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even
without
that spiritual repercussions of it) I became disgusted
with that
sort of subconscious slave mentality.

Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of
their
way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their
kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their
faces
and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan
has
given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express
our
gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at
advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our
shackles as
xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be
worshipped,
(in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to
put us
on our feet.

________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: <a rel="nofollow">[email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided' and
other...

Â
I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a
problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not
fully
deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I
am
given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is
how he
did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change
"Satan" to
"god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also
indicates
blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The
reason is
simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via
our
effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods
really
did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should
take
the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the
jewish
slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does
anyone
else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita
est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!



[/TD]
[/TD]
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNvgwcOS1I see if that works, if not do a search on youtube for JoSministries, click on 'channels' and many audio sermons are there, including the one in question titled "Satanic Ministry" it's one of my favorites, but I love listening to them all.  I listen to them on my ipod in bed as I fall asleep. Hail Satan!!
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: "JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups com" <[email protected]; "agentofsatanswill666@..." <agentofsatanswill666@...; "briangibbons20@..." <briangibbons20@...
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
 
<td style="font:[/IMG]remember as I said before I suck at this s*** and I don't know how to type in right so if you could send me a link that be really great.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...;
To: JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups com <[email protected]; agentofsatanswill666@... <agentofsatanswill666@...;
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 3:24:57 AM
<td style="font:[/IMG]  
<td style="font:[/IMG]can you send that in a working link for my phone please?


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]
From: Micama Gmicalzoma <agentofsatanswill666@...;
To: [email protected] <[email protected];
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 3:08:14 AM
<td style="font:[/IMG]   Exactly. I kneel in front of my alter on a frequent basis, and during Every Ritual. Though this is not required. I really Shouldn't have apologized like I did, first of all I did nothing wrong. I AM NOT SORRY. The real reason why I said that is because I have to be careful as Not to cause an in-fight, because I know this would be against Father Satan's Will. I was stating the facts as I saw fit. There is nothing wrong with that.Bowing to Satan out of RESPECT and Adoration is a Beautiful thing, and Very Personal. We are NOT Unconscious Xians for doing such, that is a bunch of bullshit. Furthermore, who among us has the right to decide what IS or IS NOT acceptable? No One! If you want to bow that's fine, if you want to stand that's perfectly fine too. You can do a Ritual in a Black Robe, Jeans and T-shirt or butt naked, it Doesn't Matter. The only thing that does matter is your Thoughts, Desires and Intentions. Isn't Satanism Freedom?? YES!We all listen to and Respect the Clergy of the Joy of Satan Ministries. Why? Do they tell us what to do or how to live? No. We listen to them and Respect them because they KNOW what they are talking about. Let's take High Priestess Maxine Dietrich for example. She was listening to and seeing Our Gods before ANY of us did. She has an Immaculate record of being correct concerning Spiritual Satanism. I think we should all pay attention to what is being said in this sermon. To even entertain the thought that Anyone in these groups knows better than the JoS Clergy is just Insanity. They have been appointed By SATAN Himself, this is for a Specific Reason! They are Not mediators, rather Secondary Teachers to the Gods of Hell. **** IF YOU ARE NEW MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEAR THIS SERMON ****Take a Listen, and take it to Heart:Joy of Satan: Satanic Ministry - High Priestess Maxine Dietrich Sermon's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNvgwcOS1I Hail Father Satan!! Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III: "I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan From: "royalblueflame666@..." <royalblueflame666@...
To: Jos main E-group email address <[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
  Those of you that do not accept that we bow/kneel before our Father Satan, I find it difficult to understand why you have taken this path. We kneel to show our appreciation, honor. We do not get down and continuously slavish worship him. We stand proud, but we still kneel at times. This doesn't mean we kneel/bow whenever we are in his presence.. There are times when WE OURSELVES WHO ARE TRULY HIS WARRIORS WILL KNOW WHY AND WHEN TO KNEEL!! This discussion cannot continue, there is nothing more to prove, those of you that don't accept the fact that we kneel before Father Satan, I suggest you sit back and ask yourself if you are a real warrior of Father Satan. And stop trying to push your luck here by influencing the new and weak minded. Hail Satan!! Hail Volac!! Hail Beezlebub!! Hail Orobas!! Hail Clauneck!!Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! From: Micama Gmicalzoma <agentofsatanswill666@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:36:18 -0800 (PST) To: [email protected] <[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...   You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you. Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die. I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.
 Hail Father Satan!! Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III: "I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan
From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@...
To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
  A[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG] [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other... Â I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not fully deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I am given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is how he did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change "Satan" to "god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also indicates blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The reason is simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via our effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods really did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should take the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the jewish slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does anyone else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! [/QUOTE] [/TD]
[/TD]
 
<td val[/IMG]yes not only do I have the sermons on CD at home but I have them all on my phone too thanks.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]
From: Siatris Teloah <siatris_teloah@...;
To: [email protected] <[email protected]; agentofsatanswill666@... <agentofsatanswill666@...; briangibbons20@... <briangibbons20@...;
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 3:31:17 AM

<td val[/IMG]   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNvgwcOS1I  see if that works, if not do a search on youtube for JoSministries, click on 'channels' and many audio sermons are there, including the one in question titled "Satanic Ministry" it's one of my favorites, but I love listening to them all.  I listen to them on my ipod in bed as I fall asleep. Hail Satan!!
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: "JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups com" <[email protected]; "agentofsatanswill666@..." <agentofsatanswill666@...; "briangibbons20@..." <briangibbons20@...
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
 
<td style="font:[/IMG]remember as I said before I suck at this s*** and I don't know how to type in right so if you could send me a link that be really great.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...;
To: JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups com <[email protected]; agentofsatanswill666@... <agentofsatanswill666@...;
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 3:24:57 AM
<td style="font:[/IMG]  
<td style="font:[/IMG]can you send that in a working link for my phone please?


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]
From: Micama Gmicalzoma <agentofsatanswill666@...;
To: [email protected] <[email protected];
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 3:08:14 AM
<td style="font:[/IMG]   Exactly. I kneel in front of my alter on a frequent basis, and during Every Ritual. Though this is not required. I really Shouldn't have apologized like I did, first of all I did nothing wrong. I AM NOT SORRY. The real reason why I said that is because I have to be careful as Not to cause an in-fight, because I know this would be against Father Satan's Will. I was stating the facts as I saw fit. There is nothing wrong with that.Bowing to Satan out of RESPECT and Adoration is a Beautiful thing, and Very Personal. We are NOT Unconscious Xians for doing such, that is a bunch of bullshit. Furthermore, who among us has the right to decide what IS or IS NOT acceptable? No One! If you want to bow that's fine, if you want to stand that's perfectly fine too. You can do a Ritual in a Black Robe, Jeans and T-shirt or butt naked, it Doesn't Matter. The only thing that does matter is your Thoughts, Desires and Intentions. Isn't Satanism Freedom?? YES!We all listen to and Respect the Clergy of the Joy of Satan Ministries. Why? Do they tell us what to do or how to live? No. We listen to them and Respect them because they KNOW what they are talking about. Let's take High Priestess Maxine Dietrich for example. She was listening to and seeing Our Gods before ANY of us did. She has an Immaculate record of being correct concerning Spiritual Satanism. I think we should all pay attention to what is being said in this sermon. To even entertain the thought that Anyone in these groups knows better than the JoS Clergy is just Insanity. They have been appointed By SATAN Himself, this is for a Specific Reason! They are Not mediators, rather Secondary Teachers to the Gods of Hell. **** IF YOU ARE NEW MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEAR THIS SERMON ****Take a Listen, and take it to Heart:Joy of Satan: Satanic Ministry - High Priestess Maxine Dietrich Sermon's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNvgwcOS1I Hail Father Satan!! Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III: "I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan From: "royalblueflame666@..." <royalblueflame666@...
To: Jos main E-group email address <[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
  Those of you that do not accept that we bow/kneel before our Father Satan, I find it difficult to understand why you have taken this path. We kneel to show our appreciation, honor. We do not get down and continuously slavish worship him. We stand proud, but we still kneel at times. This doesn't mean we kneel/bow whenever we are in his presence.. There are times when WE OURSELVES WHO ARE TRULY HIS WARRIORS WILL KNOW WHY AND WHEN TO KNEEL!! This discussion cannot continue, there is nothing more to prove, those of you that don't accept the fact that we kneel before Father Satan, I suggest you sit back and ask yourself if you are a real warrior of Father Satan. And stop trying to push your luck here by influencing the new and weak minded. Hail Satan!! Hail Volac!! Hail Beezlebub!! Hail Orobas!! Hail Clauneck!!Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! From: Micama Gmicalzoma <agentofsatanswill666@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:36:18 -0800 (PST) To: [email protected] <[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...   You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you. Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die. I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.
 Hail Father Satan!! Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III: "I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan
From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@...
To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
  A[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG] [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other... Â I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not fully deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I am given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is how he did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change "Satan" to "god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also indicates blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The reason is simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via our effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods really did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should take the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the jewish slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does anyone else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! [/QUOTE] [/TD]
[/TD]
[/TD]
 
oh, my apologies, Brian, I was confused and thought you wanted the link, lol..
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: "JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups com" <[email protected]; "agentofsatanswill666@..." <agentofsatanswill666@...; "siatris_teloah@..." <siatris_teloah@...
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
<td style="font:[/IMG]yes not only do I have the sermons on CD at home but I have them all on my phone too thanks.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]
From: Siatris Teloah <siatris_teloah@...;
To: [email protected] <[email protected]; agentofsatanswill666@... <agentofsatanswill666@...; briangibbons20@... <briangibbons20@...;
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 3:31:17 AM
<td style="font:[/IMG]   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNvgwcOS1I&nbsp;see if that works, if not do a search on youtube for JoSministries, click on 'channels' and many audio sermons are there, including the one in question titled "Satanic Ministry" it's one of my favorites, but I love listening to them all.  I listen to them on my ipod in bed as I fall asleep. Hail Satan!! From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: "JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups com" <[email protected]; "agentofsatanswill666@..." <agentofsatanswill666@...; "briangibbons20@..." <briangibbons20@...
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
  From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...;
To: JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups com <[email protected]; agentofsatanswill666@... <agentofsatanswill666@...;
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 3:24:57 AM
From: Micama Gmicalzoma <agentofsatanswill666@...;
To: [email protected] <[email protected];
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 3:08:14 AM
<td style="font:[/IMG]   Exactly. I kneel in front of my alter on a frequent basis, and during Every Ritual. Though this is not required. I really Shouldn't have apologized like I did, first of all I did nothing wrong. I AM NOT SORRY. The real reason why I said that is because I have to be careful as Not to cause an in-fight, because I know this would be against Father Satan's Will. I was stating the facts as I saw fit. There is nothing wrong with that.Bowing to Satan out of RESPECT and Adoration is a Beautiful thing, and Very Personal. We are NOT Unconscious Xians for doing such, that is a bunch of bullshit. Furthermore, who among us has the right to decide what IS or IS NOT acceptable? No One! If you want to bow that's fine, if you want to stand that's perfectly fine too. You can do a Ritual in a Black Robe, Jeans and T-shirt or butt naked, it Doesn't Matter. The only thing that does matter is your Thoughts, Desires and Intentions. Isn't Satanism Freedom?? YES!We all listen to and Respect the Clergy of the Joy of Satan Ministries. Why? Do they tell us what to do or how to live? No. We listen to them and Respect them because they KNOW what they are talking about. Let's take High Priestess Maxine Dietrich for example. She was listening to and seeing Our Gods before ANY of us did. She has an Immaculate record of being correct concerning Spiritual Satanism. I think we should all pay attention to what is being said in this sermon. To even entertain the thought that Anyone in these groups knows better than the JoS Clergy is just Insanity. They have been appointed By SATAN Himself, this is for a Specific Reason! They are Not mediators, rather Secondary Teachers to the Gods of Hell. **** IF YOU ARE NEW MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEAR THIS SERMON ****Take a Listen, and take it to Heart:Joy of Satan: Satanic Ministry - High Priestess Maxine Dietrich Sermon's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNvgwcOS1I Hail Father Satan!! Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III: "I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan From: "royalblueflame666@..." <royalblueflame666@...
To: Jos main E-group email address <[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
  Those of you that do not accept that we bow/kneel before our Father Satan, I find it difficult to understand why you have taken this path. We kneel to show our appreciation, honor. We do not get down and continuously slavish worship him. We stand proud, but we still kneel at times. This doesn't mean we kneel/bow whenever we are in his presence.. There are times when WE OURSELVES WHO ARE TRULY HIS WARRIORS WILL KNOW WHY AND WHEN TO KNEEL!! This discussion cannot continue, there is nothing more to prove, those of you that don't accept the fact that we kneel before Father Satan, I suggest you sit back and ask yourself if you are a real warrior of Father Satan. And stop trying to push your luck here by influencing the new and weak minded. Hail Satan!! Hail Volac!! Hail Beezlebub!! Hail Orobas!! Hail Clauneck!!Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! From: Micama Gmicalzoma <agentofsatanswill666@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:36:18 -0800 (PST) To: [email protected] <[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...   You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you. Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die. I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.
 Hail Father Satan!! Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III: "I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan
From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@...
To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
  A[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG][e[/IMG] [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other... Â I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not fully deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I am given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is how he did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change "Satan" to "god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also indicates blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The reason is simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via our effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods really did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should take the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the jewish slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does anyone else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! [/QUOTE] [/TD]
[/TD]
[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
 
I want to make a note. When I said 'bow' or 'kneel', I did not mean it in a literal physical sence. I kneel before my alter, I thank and give praise to the Gods every night. I resect and adore them, I show them my love.

This topic was taken way out of hand by people disagreeign with others. Satanism is freedom, and you are free to do and act as you like. Satanism is personal, and in being so, you should not let others dictate to you how you go about being a Satanist. You are aloud to disagree with someone, but it is no basis for an attack or an argument to develop. Simple discussion is all that is needed.

Furthermore on that point, if someone raises a discussion that you disagree with, then how is it your place to tell them they are wrong? Or right? It is not, for Satanism is personal, a relationship between Satan and the Person themselves. Some people have ideals that are different to someone elses. This is a fact of life and something that shouldn't be discouraged. Individuality is a good thing. It is the enemy who are trying to kill that, remember this.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En Haradren Amlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Micama Gmicalzoma wrote:

Exactly. I kneel in front of my alter on a frequent basis, and during Every Ritual. Though this is not required. I really Shouldn't have apologized like I did, first of all I did nothing wrong. I AM NOT SORRY. The real reason why I said that is because I have to be careful as Not to cause an in-fight, because I know this would be against Father Satan's Will. I was stating the facts as I saw fit. There is nothing wrong with that.

Bowing to Satan out of RESPECT and Adoration is a Beautiful thing, and Very Personal. We are NOT Unconscious Xians for doing such, that is a bunch of bullshit. Furthermore, who among us has the right to decide what IS or IS NOT acceptable? No One! If you want to bow that's fine, if you want to stand that's perfectly fine too. You can do a Ritual in a Black Robe, Jeans and T-shirt or butt naked, it Doesn't Matter. The only thing that does matter is your Thoughts, Desires and Intentions. Isn't Satanism Freedom?? YES!

We all listen to and Respect the Clergy of the Joy of Satan Ministries. Why? Do they tell us what to do or how to live? No. We listen to them and Respect them because they KNOW what they are talking about. Let's take High Priestess Maxine Dietrich for example. She was listening to and seeing Our Gods before ANY of us did. She has an Immaculate record of being correct concerning Spiritual Satanism. I think we should all pay attention to what is being said in this sermon. To even entertain the thought that Anyone in these groups knows better than the JoS Clergy is just Insanity. They have been appointed By SATAN Himself, this is for a Specific Reason! They are Not mediators, rather Secondary Teachers to the Gods of Hell.


**** IF YOU ARE NEW MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEAR THIS SERMON ****

Take a Listen, and take it to Heart:
Joy of Satan: Satanic Ministry - High Priestess Maxine Dietrich Sermon's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNvgwcOS1I


Hail Father Satan!!

Forever in the Service of Satan.

From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan


________________________________
From: "royalblueflame666@..."
To: Jos main E-group email address
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...


 
Those of you that do not accept that we bow/kneel before our Father Satan, I find it difficult to understand why you have taken this path.

We kneel to show our appreciation, honor. We do not get down and continuously slavish worship him. We stand proud, but we still kneel at times. This doesn't mean we kneel/bow whenever we are in his presence.. There are times when WE OURSELVES WHO ARE TRULY HIS WARRIORS WILL KNOW WHY AND WHEN TO KNEEL!!

This discussion cannot continue, there is nothing more to prove, those of you that don't accept the fact that we kneel before Father Satan, I suggest you sit back and ask yourself if you are a real warrior of Father Satan. And stop trying to push your luck here by influencing the new and weak minded.

Hail Satan!!
Hail Volac!!
Hail Beezlebub!!
Hail Orobas!!
Hail Clauneck!!
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
________________________________

From: Micama Gmicalzoma
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:36:18 -0800 (PST)
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
ReplyTo: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
 
You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.

Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.


I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.


 
Hail Father Satan!!

Forever in the Service of Satan.

From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan



________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...


 
Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not.

SiguardDraconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "En HaradrenAmlug" wrote:

I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands.

We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En HaradrenAmlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not
want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be
directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing
against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure
the newer ones do not go to far with it.

Hail Myself!!

No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan
and gives his praise.

What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded
differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within
yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take
control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan.
However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have.

Hail Satan!!!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" wrote:

Hehehe, correct indeed.

Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian
slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they
themselves did. Just like the sheep.

And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not
forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will
not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to
Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post.

We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us
whether or not to follow it.

As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are
indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction.

SiguardDraconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "no.state" wrote:

For what it's worth to anyone here:

I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed
to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation
requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and
their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat"
after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name.

Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of
thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've
never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from
Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians.

Thank you, Enki. Thank you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God
after
all. Without him we would not even exist. When you get to much
into this
I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature.
Along
with thinking you are better then other Satanists.

Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing
we
need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters.
Needing to
work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours.

Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him
Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust
certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods.

So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail
Satan!!!!






--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], SiatrisTeloah wrote:

I don't think I'm necessarily better at explaining it, but
rereading
your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye
on
this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised
cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the
other
perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is
like. A
road to nowhere.



________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...


Â

I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do.


________________________________
From: SiatrisTeloah
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of
attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I
can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make
things
happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their
false
piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of
good
luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good
things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that
my
spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's
nothing
wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself
because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be
present
for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because
it
is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.
Â
Hail Satan!!


________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents
in, but
I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I
realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even
without
that spiritualÂrepercussions of it) I became disgusted
with that
sort of subconscious slave mentality.

Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of
their
way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their
kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their
faces
and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan
has
given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express
our
gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at
advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our
shackles as
xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be
worshipped,
(in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to
put us
on our feet.

________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided' and
other...

Â
I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a
problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not
fully
deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I
am
given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is
how he
did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change
"Satan" to
"god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also
indicates
blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The
reason is
simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via
our
effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods
really
did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should
take
the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the
jewish
slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does
anyone
else think this way? SiguardDraconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita
est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!
 
Well 
Even on the jos site itself it does basically state that we all have our own individual ways.
Its not worded exactly in those words but that's basically what it means 

Ryan Harrison's iPhone 
On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:05 PM, "En Haradren Amlug" <hecktic_shadow@... wrote:
  I want to make a note. When I said 'bow' or 'kneel', I did not mean it in a literal physical sence. I kneel before my alter, I thank and give praise to the Gods every night. I resect and adore them, I show them my love.

This topic was taken way out of hand by people disagreeign with others. Satanism is freedom, and you are free to do and act as you like. Satanism is personal, and in being so, you should not let others dictate to you how you go about being a Satanist. You are aloud to disagree with someone, but it is no basis for an attack or an argument to develop. Simple discussion is all that is needed.

Furthermore on that point, if someone raises a discussion that you disagree with, then how is it your place to tell them they are wrong? Or right? It is not, for Satanism is personal, a relationship between Satan and the Person themselves. Some people have ideals that are different to someone elses. This is a fact of life and something that shouldn't be discouraged. Individuality is a good thing. It is the enemy who are trying to kill that, remember this.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En Haradren Amlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Micama Gmicalzoma wrote:

Exactly. I kneel in front of my alter on a frequent basis, and during Every Ritual. Though this is not required. I really Shouldn't have apologized like I did, first of all I did nothing wrong. I AM NOT SORRY. The real reason why I said that is because I have to be careful as Not to cause an in-fight, because I know this would be against Father Satan's Will. I was stating the facts as I saw fit. There is nothing wrong with that.

Bowing to Satan out of RESPECT and Adoration is a Beautiful thing, and Very Personal. We are NOT Unconscious Xians for doing such, that is a bunch of bullshit. Furthermore, who among us has the right to decide what IS or IS NOT acceptable? No One! If you want to bow that's fine, if you want to stand that's perfectly fine too. You can do a Ritual in a Black Robe, Jeans and T-shirt or butt naked, it Doesn't Matter. The only thing that does matter is your Thoughts, Desires and Intentions. Isn't Satanism Freedom?? YES!

We all listen to and Respect the Clergy of the Joy of Satan Ministries. Why? Do they tell us what to do or how to live? No. We listen to them and Respect them because they KNOW what they are talking about. Let's take High Priestess Maxine Dietrich for example. She was listening to and seeing Our Gods before ANY of us did. She has an Immaculate record of being correct concerning Spiritual Satanism. I think we should all pay attention to what is being said in this sermon. To even entertain the thought that Anyone in these groups knows better than the JoS Clergy is just Insanity. They have been appointed By SATAN Himself, this is for a Specific Reason! They are Not mediators, rather Secondary Teachers to the Gods of Hell.


**** IF YOU ARE NEW MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEAR THIS SERMON ****

Take a Listen, and take it to Heart:
Joy of Satan: Satanic Ministry - High Priestess Maxine Dietrich Sermon's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNvgwcOS1I


Hail Father Satan!!

Forever in the Service of Satan.

From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan


________________________________
From: "royalblueflame666@..."
To: Jos main E-group email address
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...


 
Those of you that do not accept that we bow/kneel before our Father Satan, I find it difficult to understand why you have taken this path.

We kneel to show our appreciation, honor. We do not get down and continuously slavish worship him. We stand proud, but we still kneel at times. This doesn't mean we kneel/bow whenever we are in his presence.. There are times when WE OURSELVES WHO ARE TRULY HIS WARRIORS WILL KNOW WHY AND WHEN TO KNEEL!!

This discussion cannot continue, there is nothing more to prove, those of you that don't accept the fact that we kneel before Father Satan, I suggest you sit back and ask yourself if you are a real warrior of Father Satan. And stop trying to push your luck here by influencing the new and weak minded.

Hail Satan!!
Hail Volac!!
Hail Beezlebub!!
Hail Orobas!!
Hail Clauneck!!
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
________________________________

From: Micama Gmicalzoma
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:36:18 -0800 (PST)
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
ReplyTo: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
 
You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.

Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.


I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.


 
Hail Father Satan!!

Forever in the Service of Satan.

From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan



________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...


 
Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not.

SiguardDraconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "En HaradrenAmlug" wrote:

I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands.

We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En HaradrenAmlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not
want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be
directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing
against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure
the newer ones do not go to far with it.

Hail Myself!!

No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan
and gives his praise.

What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded
differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within
yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take
control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan.
However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have.

Hail Satan!!!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" wrote:

Hehehe, correct indeed.

Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian
slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they
themselves did. Just like the sheep.

And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not
forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will
not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to
Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post.

We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us
whether or not to follow it.

As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are
indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction.

SiguardDraconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "no.state" wrote:

For what it's worth to anyone here:

I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed
to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation
requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and
their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat"
after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name.

Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of
thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've
never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from
Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians.

Thank you, Enki. Thank you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God
after
all. Without him we would not even exist. When you get to much
into this
I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature.
Along
with thinking you are better then other Satanists.

Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing
we
need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters.
Needing to
work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours.

Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him
Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust
certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods.

So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail
Satan!!!!






--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], SiatrisTeloah wrote:

I don't think I'm necessarily better at explaining it, but
rereading
your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye
on
this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised
cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the
other
perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is
like. A
road to nowhere.



________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...


Â

I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do.


________________________________
From: SiatrisTeloah
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of
attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I
can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make
things
happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their
false
piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of
good
luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good
things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that
my
spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's
nothing
wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself
because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be
present
for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because
it
is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.
Â
Hail Satan!!


________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents
in, but
I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I
realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even
without
that spiritualÂrepercussions of it) I became disgusted
with that
sort of subconscious slave mentality.

Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of
their
way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their
kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their
faces
and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan
has
given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express
our
gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at
advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our
shackles as
xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be
worshipped,
(in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to
put us
on our feet.

________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided' and
other...

Â
I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a
problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not
fully
deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I
am
given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is
how he
did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change
"Satan" to
"god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also
indicates
blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The
reason is
simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via
our
effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods
really
did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should
take
the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the
jewish
slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does
anyone
else think this way? SiguardDraconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita
est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!
 
That is true, I understand that. I think that we can sometimes get too defensive on here. Sometimes we think that people are saying things rashly.

For an example If we were talking about the Solar Chakra and how to properly align it, statements can be taken out of sorts, for instance if I said:

"That's not true, you have to point the Solar Plexus down, that's how to align it."

That statement could be taken as or sound like: "YOU FUCKING IDIOT, WERE YOU BORN YESTERDAY?!?! THE SOLAR MUST POINT DOWN!!!! ARGH!!!!"

This is because we are interacting with each other over an email format. The telephone would be much easier, but even then things can get taken the wrong way because we can't see the other persons facial expressions. Only in person can this all be avoided. Unfortunately this is not the case. Maybe some day this can happen.

 Hail Father Satan!!
Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan

From: En Haradren Amlug <hecktic_shadow@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 11:05 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

  I want to make a note. When I said 'bow' or 'kneel', I did not mean it in a literal physical sence. I kneel before my alter, I thank and give praise to the Gods every night. I resect and adore them, I show them my love.

This topic was taken way out of hand by people disagreeign with others. Satanism is freedom, and you are free to do and act as you like. Satanism is personal, and in being so, you should not let others dictate to you how you go about being a Satanist. You are aloud to disagree with someone, but it is no basis for an attack or an argument to develop. Simple discussion is all that is needed.

Furthermore on that point, if someone raises a discussion that you disagree with, then how is it your place to tell them they are wrong? Or right? It is not, for Satanism is personal, a relationship between Satan and the Person themselves. Some people have ideals that are different to someone elses. This is a fact of life and something that shouldn't be discouraged. Individuality is a good thing. It is the enemy who are trying to kill that, remember this.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En Haradren Amlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Micama Gmicalzoma wrote:

Exactly. I kneel in front of my alter on a frequent basis, and during Every Ritual. Though this is not required. I really Shouldn't have apologized like I did, first of all I did nothing wrong. I AM NOT SORRY. The real reason why I said that is because I have to be careful as Not to cause an in-fight, because I know this would be against Father Satan's Will. I was stating the facts as I saw fit. There is nothing wrong with that.

Bowing to Satan out of RESPECT and Adoration is a Beautiful thing, and Very Personal. We are NOT Unconscious Xians for doing such, that is a bunch of bullshit. Furthermore, who among us has the right to decide what IS or IS NOT acceptable? No One! If you want to bow that's fine, if you want to stand that's perfectly fine too. You can do a Ritual in a Black Robe, Jeans and T-shirt or butt naked, it Doesn't Matter. The only thing that does matter is your Thoughts, Desires and Intentions. Isn't Satanism Freedom?? YES!

We all listen to and Respect the Clergy of the Joy of Satan Ministries. Why? Do they tell us what to do or how to live? No. We listen to them and Respect them because they KNOW what they are talking about. Let's take High Priestess Maxine Dietrich for example. She was listening to and seeing Our Gods before ANY of us did. She has an Immaculate record of being correct concerning Spiritual Satanism. I think we should all pay attention to what is being said in this sermon. To even entertain the thought that Anyone in these groups knows better than the JoS Clergy is just Insanity. They have been appointed By SATAN Himself, this is for a Specific Reason! They are Not mediators, rather Secondary Teachers to the Gods of Hell.


**** IF YOU ARE NEW MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEAR THIS SERMON ****

Take a Listen, and take it to Heart:
Joy of Satan: Satanic Ministry - High Priestess Maxine Dietrich Sermon's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNvgwcOS1I


Hail Father Satan!!

Forever in the Service of Satan.

From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan


________________________________
From: "royalblueflame666@..."
To: Jos main E-group email address
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...


 
Those of you that do not accept that we bow/kneel before our Father Satan, I find it difficult to understand why you have taken this path.

We kneel to show our appreciation, honor. We do not get down and continuously slavish worship him. We stand proud, but we still kneel at times. This doesn't mean we kneel/bow whenever we are in his presence.. There are times when WE OURSELVES WHO ARE TRULY HIS WARRIORS WILL KNOW WHY AND WHEN TO KNEEL!!

This discussion cannot continue, there is nothing more to prove, those of you that don't accept the fact that we kneel before Father Satan, I suggest you sit back and ask yourself if you are a real warrior of Father Satan. And stop trying to push your luck here by influencing the new and weak minded.

Hail Satan!!
Hail Volac!!
Hail Beezlebub!!
Hail Orobas!!
Hail Clauneck!!
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
________________________________

From: Micama Gmicalzoma
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:36:18 -0800 (PST)
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
ReplyTo: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
 
You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.

Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.


I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.


 
Hail Father Satan!!

Forever in the Service of Satan.

From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan



________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...


 
Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not.

SiguardDraconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "En HaradrenAmlug" wrote:

I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands.

We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En HaradrenAmlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not
want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be
directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing
against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure
the newer ones do not go to far with it.

Hail Myself!!

No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan
and gives his praise.

What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded
differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within
yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take
control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan.
However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have.

Hail Satan!!!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" wrote:

Hehehe, correct indeed.

Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian
slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they
themselves did. Just like the sheep.

And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not
forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will
not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to
Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post.

We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us
whether or not to follow it.

As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are
indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction.

SiguardDraconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "no.state" wrote:

For what it's worth to anyone here:

I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed
to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation
requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and
their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat"
after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name.

Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of
thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've
never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from
Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians.

Thank you, Enki. Thank you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God
after
all. Without him we would not even exist. When you get to much
into this
I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature.
Along
with thinking you are better then other Satanists.

Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing
we
need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters.
Needing to
work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours.

Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him
Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust
certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods.

So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail
Satan!!!!






--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], SiatrisTeloah wrote:

I don't think I'm necessarily better at explaining it, but
rereading
your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye
on
this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised
cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the
other
perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is
like. A
road to nowhere.



________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...


Â

I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do.


________________________________
From: SiatrisTeloah
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of
attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I
can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make
things
happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their
false
piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of
good
luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good
things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that
my
spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's
nothing
wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself
because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be
present
for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because
it
is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.
Â
Hail Satan!!


________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents
in, but
I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I
realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even
without
that spiritualÂrepercussions of it) I became disgusted
with that
sort of subconscious slave mentality.

Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of
their
way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their
kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their
faces
and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan
has
given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express
our
gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at
advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our
shackles as
xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be
worshipped,
(in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to
put us
on our feet.

________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided' and
other...

Â
I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a
problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not
fully
deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I
am
given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is
how he
did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change
"Satan" to
"god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also
indicates
blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The
reason is
simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via
our
effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods
really
did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should
take
the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the
jewish
slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does
anyone
else think this way? SiguardDraconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita
est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!

 
I've begun bowing an kneeling before Satan, when I try communicating with him. It's not about subservience or "bowing and scraping," but out of respect.

He's given me much and yet, I know I'm only beginning. I have so much to learn. And in order to express my willingness to learn, I will bow and kneel.

I want to thank all of you for your contribution to this discussion. I'm so grateful to all of you for what you've added to my knowledge. I not only bow to Father Satan, I bow in respect to all of you too.

I love this group. And I mean that as a little brother and not as a weakling. I thank you all.

Hail Satan. Hail all the original Gods and I offer my humble praise to all of you who have given me such wonderful gifts, lately.

Thank you, Enki. I am grateful.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Micama Gmicalzoma wrote:

Exactly. I kneel in front of my alter on a frequent basis, and during Every Ritual. Though this is not required. I really Shouldn't have apologized like I did, first of all I did nothing wrong. I AM NOT SORRY. The real reason why I said that is because I have to be careful as Not to cause an in-fight, because I know this would be against Father Satan's Will. I was stating the facts as I saw fit. There is nothing wrong with that.

Bowing to Satan out of RESPECT and Adoration is a Beautiful thing, and Very Personal. We are NOT Unconscious Xians for doing such, that is a bunch of bullshit. Furthermore, who among us has the right to decide what IS or IS NOT acceptable? No One! If you want to bow that's fine, if you want to stand that's perfectly fine too. You can do a Ritual in a Black Robe, Jeans and T-shirt or butt naked, it Doesn't Matter. The only thing that does matter is your Thoughts, Desires and Intentions. Isn't Satanism Freedom?? YES!

We all listen to and Respect the Clergy of the Joy of Satan Ministries. Why? Do they tell us what to do or how to live? No. We listen to them and Respect them because they KNOW what they are talking about. Let's take High Priestess Maxine Dietrich for example. She was listening to and seeing Our Gods before ANY of us did. She has an Immaculate record of being correct concerning Spiritual Satanism. I think we should all pay attention to what is being said in this sermon. To even entertain the thought that Anyone in these groups knows better than the JoS Clergy is just Insanity. They have been appointed By SATAN Himself, this is for a Specific Reason! They are Not mediators, rather Secondary Teachers to the Gods of Hell.


**** IF YOU ARE NEW MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEAR THIS SERMON ****

Take a Listen, and take it to Heart:
Joy of Satan: Satanic Ministry - High Priestess Maxine Dietrich Sermon's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNvgwcOS1I


Hail Father Satan!!

Forever in the Service of Satan.

From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan


________________________________
From: "royalblueflame666@..."
To: Jos main E-group email address
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...


 
Those of you that do not accept that we bow/kneel before our Father Satan, I find it difficult to understand why you have taken this path.

We kneel to show our appreciation, honor. We do not get down and continuously slavish worship him. We stand proud, but we still kneel at times. This doesn't mean we kneel/bow whenever we are in his presence.. There are times when WE OURSELVES WHO ARE TRULY HIS WARRIORS WILL KNOW WHY AND WHEN TO KNEEL!!

This discussion cannot continue, there is nothing more to prove, those of you that don't accept the fact that we kneel before Father Satan, I suggest you sit back and ask yourself if you are a real warrior of Father Satan. And stop trying to push your luck here by influencing the new and weak minded.

Hail Satan!!
Hail Volac!!
Hail Beezlebub!!
Hail Orobas!!
Hail Clauneck!!
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
________________________________

From: Micama Gmicalzoma
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:36:18 -0800 (PST)
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
ReplyTo: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
 
You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.

Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.


I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.


 
Hail Father Satan!!

Forever in the Service of Satan.

From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan



________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...


 
Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not.

SiguardDraconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "En HaradrenAmlug" wrote:

I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands.

We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En HaradrenAmlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not
want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be
directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing
against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure
the newer ones do not go to far with it.

Hail Myself!!

No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan
and gives his praise.

What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded
differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within
yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take
control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan.
However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have.

Hail Satan!!!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" wrote:

Hehehe, correct indeed.

Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian
slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they
themselves did. Just like the sheep.

And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not
forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will
not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to
Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post.

We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us
whether or not to follow it.

As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are
indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction.

SiguardDraconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "no.state" wrote:

For what it's worth to anyone here:

I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed
to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation
requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and
their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat"
after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name.

Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of
thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've
never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from
Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians.

Thank you, Enki. Thank you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God
after
all. Without him we would not even exist. When you get to much
into this
I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature.
Along
with thinking you are better then other Satanists.

Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing
we
need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters.
Needing to
work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours.

Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him
Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust
certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods.

So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail
Satan!!!!






--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], SiatrisTeloah wrote:

I don't think I'm necessarily better at explaining it, but
rereading
your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye
on
this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised
cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the
other
perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is
like. A
road to nowhere.



________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
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I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do.


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From: SiatrisTeloah
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
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I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of
attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I
can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make
things
happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their
false
piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of
good
luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good
things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that
my
spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's
nothing
wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself
because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be
present
for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because
it
is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.
Â
Hail Satan!!


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From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM
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Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents
in, but
I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I
realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even
without
that spiritualÂrepercussions of it) I became disgusted
with that
sort of subconscious slave mentality.

Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of
their
way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their
kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their
faces
and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan
has
given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express
our
gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at
advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our
shackles as
xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be
worshipped,
(in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to
put us
on our feet.

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From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
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other...

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I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a
problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not
fully
deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I
am
given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is
how he
did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change
"Satan" to
"god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also
indicates
blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The
reason is
simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via
our
effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods
really
did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should
take
the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the
jewish
slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does
anyone
else think this way? SiguardDraconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita
est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!
 
Ay, true. Bear in mind though, bowing in Japan is something totally different, as it is culturally conditioned.

The Land Blossoming Cherry is hugely associated with honour, and it may not necessarily have been that xianised by the jewish abomination. Correct me if I'm wrong, but xianity there does not constitute a large percentage of all the believers, correct?

Most are either Shintoist or Zen (though it is unlikely that these religions remained untainted...).

Anyway, I like the idea about bowing slightly with your hands clasped. Not like xians do, kneeling in humility, showing how worthless they are.

I used to kneel, and thus behave like a xian, but obviously, I grew up from this and do not practise such attitude any more. I do not bow in humility before a friend, or a Parent, however powerful He may be. Nor do I do it before my actual, biological parents.

But I'm happy that by this thread some tendencies came into light. For everybody to consider.

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satans! Rege Satanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Sebastian Vonike wrote:

The Japanese still show this by bowing to each other. The more 'looked up' to the person to them the deeper the bow. The more closer to their own 'rank' the more casual the bow. Not bowing to them would show disrespect, again this is only a mere fact. We'll do as we will.
Hail Satan!

On 20 Jan 2013, at 10:07, Don Danko wrote:

This thread should not be about attacking personal loyality to Satan and how one choses to show this, either by bowing or standing during ritual. If people want to maintain a philosopical disscussion, great. But not a insult filled back and forth of who is holyer then thou.

In the previous world. Bowing was a sign of respect to another. The traditional greeting was a quick bow with clasped hands and a honouring of each other's spiritual being. It was also a way of showing respect to a master who had earned it. The kings where also the High Priests and were selected by a council for being the best of them all. The ancient world was based on a close respect for people. Even a noble would pay respects to a farmer and like wise back.

The closest modern day equivalent of this in the West would be in the military with the salute.


From: Micama Gmicalzoma
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:36:18 AM
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You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.

I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.


Hail Father Satan!!
Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan


From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not. Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "En Haradren Amlug" wrote: I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands. We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads. Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old! -En Haradren Amlug. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "aldric.strickland" wrote: There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure the newer ones do not go to far with it. Hail Myself!! No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan and gives his praise. What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan. However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have. Hail Satan!!!! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "siguarddraconis" wrote: Hehehe, correct indeed. Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they themselves did. Just like the sheep. And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post. We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us whether or not to follow it. As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction. Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "no.state" wrote: For what it's worth to anyone here: I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat" after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name. Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians. Thank you, Enki. Thank you. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "aldric.strickland" wrote: I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God after all. Without him we would not even exist. When you get to much into this I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature. Along with thinking you are better then other Satanists. Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing we need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters. Needing to work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours. Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods. So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail Satan!!!! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, Siatris Teloah wrote: I don't think I'm necessarily better at explaining it, but rereading your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye on this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the other perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is like. A road to nowhere. ________________________________ From: Gus Hinson To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do. ________________________________ From: Siatris Teloah To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make things happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their false piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of good luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that my spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself because of your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be present for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because it is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.  Hail Satan!! ________________________________ From: Gus Hinson To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents in, but I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even without that spiritual repercussions of it) I became disgusted with that sort of subconscious slave mentality. Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of their way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their faces and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan has given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express our gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our shackles as xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be worshipped, (in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to put us on our feet. ________________________________ From: siguarddraconis To: mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not fully deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I am given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is how he did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change "Satan" to "god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also indicates blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The reason is simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via our effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods really did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should take the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the jewish slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does anyone else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!
 
Riiiiight, because constructive criticism is 'infighting'. This lack of 'infighting' as Micama calls it, would allow the infiltrators to roam freely, which is one of the typical tactics of the enemy. Oh, and the "It is my desire (...) unity", excerpt which those people love to abuse.

I was criticising kneeling as well as bowing, for nowadays it is widely associated with fawning and servitude, which is typical of many countries that are jew-run, indirectly via RHP or(and) directly. One does not need a jew among Humans to have him or her controlling Gentiles...

How many newbies will or may behave like this, i.e. treating praying to Satan as they used to with the xian crap? It is the stage of unconscious xianity that is being assaulted. And it is because we expose the bits and pieces of xian mindset in threads like those that we are aiding the Satanic Agenda.

Alas, it appears some people cannot stand individual approach, combined with criticism. Micama seeing the lowliness will not pass, instead of attacking ad maiorem, he attacked ad personam, of course concealing it, so that it would look as if he were criticising my individual viewpoint, instead of me. Futile.

This in itself was an act of desperation, as it is the loser who resorts to such moves if he or she cannot win by any means, where the arguments are reasonable and commonsensical. Evidence? Some of the Satanists here did provide their feedback. Oh, and btw, why did some other Satanists express their viewpoint without emotional reaction and personal assault? A bow to them, lol.

Dear Micama, it was thank to Satan that I came here, but it is not thank to Him that I can do the shoelaces, that I could afford to buy stuff, etc., OR or that I used the knowledge given to us by Him. Self-sufficiency, remember?

It is we who have to apply the info to achieve something – it won't be given to us (a return to the original thread). And the sole fact that I addressed this issue is a piece of evidence that I do care about others. So, did I vehemently disagreed? Or did I provide a down-to-earth, reasonable and logical arguments?

Now, it was you who attacked me DIRECTLY with your statement about me allegedly not having respect for Satanists and Father Himself, which did not happen before in this thread. And - not surprisingly, to be honest - you interpreted my words as you saw it fit. I despise and called weak the XIAN MENTALITY, as I dared to call a spade a spade (here in the act of slavishly bowing low, and kneeling in humility as a means of showing gratitude; not the way people used to do in Ancient times). Alas, some things appear to be foreign to you... I'm just wondering though, was it really me that you were attacking, or... is it perhaps someone else…

The subject of the discussion did go astray, became more personal, whereas it should have been more against xianty. So, repeating myself once again, I was attacking xian mindset, not someone directly. Only those who approached the thread in a calm way did show their maturity. Those who took it ad personam for their own agenda…

I used to kneel to show respect to Satan, but to me *personally* it looked very xian-like, and what I wanted to do was to de-program myself totally from everything which would come from xian indoctrination. Say whatever you want, I consider kneeling with head tilted forward a xian thing, a picture of a sheep which speaks 'oh, unworthy me, forgive me jokehovah for I live'. However, a slight bow with clasped hands, as HP Don mentioned, is quite appealing. Then I stand proud that I am a Satanist. No arrogance.

As long as one feels no lowliness that he or she is something less, it is okay. We are Becoming, and this is what the Demons want us to do.

...those of us who respect the Clergy will be respected by them. Mutuality.

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "En Haradren Amlug" wrote:

I want to make a note. When I said 'bow' or 'kneel', I did not mean it in a literal physical sence. I kneel before my alter, I thank and give praise to the Gods every night. I resect and adore them, I show them my love.

This topic was taken way out of hand by people disagreeign with others. Satanism is freedom, and you are free to do and act as you like. Satanism is personal, and in being so, you should not let others dictate to you how you go about being a Satanist. You are aloud to disagree with someone, but it is no basis for an attack or an argument to develop. Simple discussion is all that is needed.

Furthermore on that point, if someone raises a discussion that you disagree with, then how is it your place to tell them they are wrong? Or right? It is not, for Satanism is personal, a relationship between Satan and the Person themselves. Some people have ideals that are different to someone elses. This is a fact of life and something that shouldn't be discouraged. Individuality is a good thing. It is the enemy who are trying to kill that, remember this.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En Haradren Amlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Micama Gmicalzoma wrote:

Exactly. I kneel in front of my alter on a frequent basis, and during Every Ritual. Though this is not required. I really Shouldn't have apologized like I did, first of all I did nothing wrong. I AM NOT SORRY. The real reason why I said that is because I have to be careful as Not to cause an in-fight, because I know this would be against Father Satan's Will. I was stating the facts as I saw fit. There is nothing wrong with that.

Bowing to Satan out of RESPECT and Adoration is a Beautiful thing, and Very Personal. We are NOT Unconscious Xians for doing such, that is a bunch of bullshit. Furthermore, who among us has the right to decide what IS or IS NOT acceptable? No One! If you want to bow that's fine, if you want to stand that's perfectly fine too. You can do a Ritual in a Black Robe, Jeans and T-shirt or butt naked, it Doesn't Matter. The only thing that does matter is your Thoughts, Desires and Intentions. Isn't Satanism Freedom?? YES!

We all listen to and Respect the Clergy of the Joy of Satan Ministries. Why? Do they tell us what to do or how to live? No. We listen to them and Respect them because they KNOW what they are talking about. Let's take High Priestess Maxine Dietrich for example. She was listening to and seeing Our Gods before ANY of us did. She has an Immaculate record of being correct concerning Spiritual Satanism. I think we should all pay attention to what is being said in this sermon. To even entertain the thought that Anyone in these groups knows better than the JoS Clergy is just Insanity. They have been appointed By SATAN Himself, this is for a Specific Reason! They are Not mediators, rather Secondary Teachers to the Gods of Hell.


**** IF YOU ARE NEW MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEAR THIS SERMON ****

Take a Listen, and take it to Heart:
Joy of Satan: Satanic Ministry - High Priestess Maxine Dietrich Sermon's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNvgwcOS1I


Hail Father Satan!!

Forever in the Service of Satan.

From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan


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From: "royalblueflame666@"
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Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:06 AM
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Those of you that do not accept that we bow/kneel before our Father Satan, I find it difficult to understand why you have taken this path.

We kneel to show our appreciation, honor. We do not get down and continuously slavish worship him. We stand proud, but we still kneel at times. This doesn't mean we kneel/bow whenever we are in his presence.. There are times when WE OURSELVES WHO ARE TRULY HIS WARRIORS WILL KNOW WHY AND WHEN TO KNEEL!!

This discussion cannot continue, there is nothing more to prove, those of you that don't accept the fact that we kneel before Father Satan, I suggest you sit back and ask yourself if you are a real warrior of Father Satan. And stop trying to push your luck here by influencing the new and weak minded.

Hail Satan!!
Hail Volac!!
Hail Beezlebub!!
Hail Orobas!!
Hail Clauneck!!
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You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.

Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.


I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.


 
Hail Father Satan!!

Forever in the Service of Satan.

From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan



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From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...


 
Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not.

SiguardDraconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "En HaradrenAmlug" wrote:

I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands.

We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En HaradrenAmlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not
want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be
directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing
against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure
the newer ones do not go to far with it.

Hail Myself!!

No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan
and gives his praise.

What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded
differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within
yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take
control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan.
However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have.

Hail Satan!!!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" wrote:

Hehehe, correct indeed.

Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian
slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they
themselves did. Just like the sheep.

And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not
forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will
not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to
Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post.

We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us
whether or not to follow it.

As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are
indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction.

SiguardDraconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "no.state" wrote:

For what it's worth to anyone here:

I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed
to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation
requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and
their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat"
after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name.

Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of
thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've
never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from
Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians.

Thank you, Enki. Thank you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God
after
all. Without him we would not even exist. When you get to much
into this
I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature.
Along
with thinking you are better then other Satanists.

Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing
we
need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters.
Needing to
work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours.

Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him
Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust
certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods.

So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail
Satan!!!!






--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], SiatrisTeloah wrote:

I don't think I'm necessarily better at explaining it, but
rereading
your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye
on
this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised
cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the
other
perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is
like. A
road to nowhere.



________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...


Â

I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do.


________________________________
From: SiatrisTeloah
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of
attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I
can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make
things
happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their
false
piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of
good
luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good
things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that
my
spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's
nothing
wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself
because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be
present
for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because
it
is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.
Â
Hail Satan!!


________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents
in, but
I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I
realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even
without
that spiritualÂrepercussions of it) I became disgusted
with that
sort of subconscious slave mentality.

Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of
their
way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their
kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their
faces
and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan
has
given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express
our
gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at
advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our
shackles as
xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be
worshipped,
(in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to
put us
on our feet.

________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided' and
other...

Â
I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a
problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not
fully
deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I
am
given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is
how he
did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change
"Satan" to
"god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also
indicates
blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The
reason is
simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via
our
effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods
really
did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should
take
the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the
jewish
slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does
anyone
else think this way? SiguardDraconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita
est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!
 
   I can see both sides here. There is nothing Wronge with Standing before Satan. However, when it started coming off as you cannot Bow, Less you be an Unconsious Christian. People Started to get a little Offended by that sentiment.   You start telling a bunch of people who have Dedicated their Entire Lives to Satan something like this and there is Bound to be an Arguement.    I do agree that We must stand as Proud Gentile Brothers and Sisters.    We must not have a slave mentality. We must not gravel and put our ass in the air and act like a mudslime.    I hope that no Brother or Sister In Satan holds any Ill Will or Intentions towards me. Remember that My entire life is Dedicated to Satan and Gladly to the Death.    I wish all of you well.    Satans Blessings.    
--- In [email protected], "no.state" wrote:

I've begun bowing an kneeling before Satan, when I try communicating with him. It's not about subservience or "bowing and scraping," but out of respect.

He's given me much and yet, I know I'm only beginning. I have so much to learn. And in order to express my willingness to learn, I will bow and kneel.

I want to thank all of you for your contribution to this discussion. I'm so grateful to all of you for what you've added to my knowledge. I not only bow to Father Satan, I bow in respect to all of you too.

I love this group. And I mean that as a little brother and not as a weakling. I thank you all.

Hail Satan. Hail all the original Gods and I offer my humble praise to all of you who have given me such wonderful gifts, lately.

Thank you, Enki. I am grateful.

--- In [email protected], Micama Gmicalzoma wrote:

Exactly. I kneel in front of my alter on a frequent basis, and during Every Ritual. Though this is not required. I really Shouldn't have apologized like I did, first of all I did nothing wrong. I AM NOT SORRY. The real reason why I said that is because I have to be careful as Not to cause an in-fight, because I know this would be against Father Satan's Will. I was stating the facts as I saw fit. There is nothing wrong with that.

Bowing to Satan out of RESPECT and Adoration is a Beautiful thing, and Very Personal. We are NOT Unconscious Xians for doing such, that is a bunch of bullshit. Furthermore, who among us has the right to decide what IS or IS NOT acceptable? No One! If you want to bow that's fine, if you want to stand that's perfectly fine too. You can do a Ritual in a Black Robe, Jeans and T-shirt or butt naked, it Doesn't Matter. The only thing that does matter is your Thoughts, Desires and Intentions. Isn't Satanism Freedom?? YES!

We all listen to and Respect the Clergy of the Joy of Satan Ministries. Why? Do they tell us what to do or how to live? No. We listen to them and Respect them because they KNOW what they are talking about. Let's take High Priestess Maxine Dietrich for example. She was listening to and seeing Our Gods before ANY of us did. She has an Immaculate record of being correct concerning Spiritual Satanism. I think we should all pay attention to what is being said in this sermon. To even entertain the thought that Anyone in these groups knows better than the JoS Clergy is just Insanity. They have been appointed By SATAN Himself, this is for a Specific Reason! They are Not mediators, rather Secondary Teachers to the Gods of Hell.


**** IF YOU ARE NEW MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEAR THIS SERMON ****

Take a Listen, and take it to Heart:
Joy of Satan: Satanic Ministry - High Priestess Maxine Dietrich Sermon's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNvgwcOS1I


Hail Father Satan!!

Forever in the Service of Satan.

From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan


________________________________
From: "royalblueflame666@"
To: Jos main E-group email address
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...


 
Those of you that do not accept that we bow/kneel before our Father Satan, I find it difficult to understand why you have taken this path.

We kneel to show our appreciation, honor. We do not get down and continuously slavish worship him. We stand proud, but we still kneel at times. This doesn't mean we kneel/bow whenever we are in his presence.. There are times when WE OURSELVES WHO ARE TRULY HIS WARRIORS WILL KNOW WHY AND WHEN TO KNEEL!!

This discussion cannot continue, there is nothing more to prove, those of you that don't accept the fact that we kneel before Father Satan, I suggest you sit back and ask yourself if you are a real warrior of Father Satan. And stop trying to push your luck here by influencing the new and weak minded.

Hail Satan!!
Hail Volac!!
Hail Beezlebub!!
Hail Orobas!!
Hail Clauneck!!
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
________________________________

From: Micama Gmicalzoma
Sender: [email protected]
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:36:18 -0800 (PST)
To: [email protected]
ReplyTo: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
 
You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.

Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.


I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.


 
Hail Father Satan!!

Forever in the Service of Satan.

From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan



________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...


 
Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not.

SiguardDraconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!

--- In [email protected], "En HaradrenAmlug" wrote:

I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands.

We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En HaradrenAmlug.

--- In [email protected], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not
want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be
directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing
against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure
the newer ones do not go to far with it.

Hail Myself!!

No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan
and gives his praise.

What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded
differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within
yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take
control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan.
However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have.

Hail Satan!!!!


--- In [email protected], "siguarddraconis" wrote:

Hehehe, correct indeed.

Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian
slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they
themselves did. Just like the sheep.

And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not
forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will
not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to
Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post.

We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us
whether or not to follow it.

As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are
indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction.

SiguardDraconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!

--- In [email protected], "no.state" wrote:

For what it's worth to anyone here:

I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed
to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation
requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and
their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat"
after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name.

Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of
thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've
never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from
Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians.

Thank you, Enki. Thank you.

--- In [email protected], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God
after
all. Without him we would not even exist. When you get to much
into this
I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature.
Along
with thinking you are better then other Satanists.

Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing
we
need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters.
Needing to
work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours.

Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him
Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust
certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods.

So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail
Satan!!!!






--- In [email protected], SiatrisTeloah wrote:

I don't think I'm necessarily better at explaining it, but
rereading
your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye
on
this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised
cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the
other
perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is
like. A
road to nowhere.



________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[email protected]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...


Â

I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do.


________________________________
From: SiatrisTeloah
To: "[email protected]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of
attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I
can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make
things
happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their
false
piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of
good
luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good
things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that
my
spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's
nothing
wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself
because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be
present
for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because
it
is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.
Â
Hail Satan!!


________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[email protected]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents
in, but
I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I
realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even
without
that spiritualÂrepercussions of it) I became disgusted
with that
sort of subconscious slave mentality.

Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of
their
way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their
kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their
faces
and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan
has
given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express
our
gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at
advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our
shackles as
xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be
worshipped,
(in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to
put us
on our feet.

________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided' and
other...

Â
I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a
problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not
fully
deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I
am
given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is
how he
did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change
"Satan" to
"god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also
indicates
blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The
reason is
simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via
our
effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods
really
did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should
take
the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the
jewish
slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does
anyone
else think this way? SiguardDraconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita
est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!
 
Hail Satan!!!
On Jan 23, 2013 11:22 AM, "aldric.strickland" <aldric.strickland@... wrote:
   I can see both sides here. There is nothing Wronge with Standing before Satan. However, when it started coming off as you cannot Bow, Less you be an Unconsious Christian. People Started to get a little Offended by that sentiment.   You start telling a bunch of people who have Dedicated their Entire Lives to Satan something like this and there is Bound to be an Arguement.    I do agree that We must stand as Proud Gentile Brothers and Sisters.    We must not have a slave mentality. We must not gravel and put our ass in the air and act like a mudslime.    I hope that no Brother or Sister In Satan holds any Ill Will or Intentions towards me. Remember that My entire life is Dedicated to Satan and Gladly to the Death.    I wish all of you well.    Satans Blessings.    
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "no.state" wrote:

I've begun bowing an kneeling before Satan, when I try communicating with him. It's not about subservience or "bowing and scraping," but out of respect.

He's given me much and yet, I know I'm only beginning. I have so much to learn. And in order to express my willingness to learn, I will bow and kneel.

I want to thank all of you for your contribution to this discussion. I'm so grateful to all of you for what you've added to my knowledge. I not only bow to Father Satan, I bow in respect to all of you too.

I love this group. And I mean that as a little brother and not as a weakling. I thank you all.

Hail Satan. Hail all the original Gods and I offer my humble praise to all of you who have given me such wonderful gifts, lately.

Thank you, Enki. I am grateful.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Micama Gmicalzoma wrote:

Exactly. I kneel in front of my alter on a frequent basis, and during Every Ritual. Though this is not required. I really Shouldn't have apologized like I did, first of all I did nothing wrong. I AM NOT SORRY. The real reason why I said that is because I have to be careful as Not to cause an in-fight, because I know this would be against Father Satan's Will. I was stating the facts as I saw fit. There is nothing wrong with that.

Bowing to Satan out of RESPECT and Adoration is a Beautiful thing, and Very Personal. We are NOT Unconscious Xians for doing such, that is a bunch of bullshit. Furthermore, who among us has the right to decide what IS or IS NOT acceptable? No One! If you want to bow that's fine, if you want to stand that's perfectly fine too. You can do a Ritual in a Black Robe, Jeans and T-shirt or butt naked, it Doesn't Matter. The only thing that does matter is your Thoughts, Desires and Intentions. Isn't Satanism Freedom?? YES!

We all listen to and Respect the Clergy of the Joy of Satan Ministries. Why? Do they tell us what to do or how to live? No. We listen to them and Respect them because they KNOW what they are talking about. Let's take High Priestess Maxine Dietrich for example. She was listening to and seeing Our Gods before ANY of us did. She has an Immaculate record of being correct concerning Spiritual Satanism. I think we should all pay attention to what is being said in this sermon. To even entertain the thought that Anyone in these groups knows better than the JoS Clergy is just Insanity. They have been appointed By SATAN Himself, this is for a Specific Reason! They are Not mediators, rather Secondary Teachers to the Gods of Hell.


**** IF YOU ARE NEW MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEAR THIS SERMON ****

Take a Listen, and take it to Heart:
Joy of Satan: Satanic Ministry - High Priestess Maxine Dietrich Sermon's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNvgwcOS1I


Hail Father Satan!!

Forever in the Service of Satan.

From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan


________________________________
From: "royalblueflame666@"
To: Jos main E-group email address
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...


 
Those of you that do not accept that we bow/kneel before our Father Satan, I find it difficult to understand why you have taken this path.

We kneel to show our appreciation, honor. We do not get down and continuously slavish worship him. We stand proud, but we still kneel at times. This doesn't mean we kneel/bow whenever we are in his presence.. There are times when WE OURSELVES WHO ARE TRULY HIS WARRIORS WILL KNOW WHY AND WHEN TO KNEEL!!

This discussion cannot continue, there is nothing more to prove, those of you that don't accept the fact that we kneel before Father Satan, I suggest you sit back and ask yourself if you are a real warrior of Father Satan. And stop trying to push your luck here by influencing the new and weak minded.

Hail Satan!!
Hail Volac!!
Hail Beezlebub!!
Hail Orobas!!
Hail Clauneck!!
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
________________________________

From: Micama Gmicalzoma
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:36:18 -0800 (PST)
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
ReplyTo: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
 
You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.

Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.


I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.


 
Hail Father Satan!!

Forever in the Service of Satan.

From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan



________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...


 
Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not.

SiguardDraconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "En HaradrenAmlug" wrote:

I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands.

We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads.

Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!

-En HaradrenAmlug.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not
want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be
directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing
against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure
the newer ones do not go to far with it.

Hail Myself!!

No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan
and gives his praise.

What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded
differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within
yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take
control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan.
However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have.

Hail Satan!!!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" wrote:

Hehehe, correct indeed.

Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian
slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they
themselves did. Just like the sheep.

And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not
forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will
not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to
Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post.

We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us
whether or not to follow it.

As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are
indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction.

SiguardDraconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "no.state" wrote:

For what it's worth to anyone here:

I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed
to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation
requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and
their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat"
after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name.

Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of
thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've
never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from
Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians.

Thank you, Enki. Thank you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:




I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God
after
all. Without him we would not even exist. When you get to much
into this
I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature.
Along
with thinking you are better then other Satanists.

Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing
we
need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters.
Needing to
work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours.

Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him
Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust
certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods.

So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail
Satan!!!!






--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], SiatrisTeloah wrote:

I don't think I'm necessarily better at explaining it, but
rereading
your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye
on
this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised
cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the
other
perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is
like. A
road to nowhere.



________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...


Â

I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do.


________________________________
From: SiatrisTeloah
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of
attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I
can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make
things
happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their
false
piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of
good
luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good
things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that
my
spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's
nothing
wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself
because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be
present
for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because
it
is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.
Â
Hail Satan!!


________________________________
From: Gus Hinson
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided'
and other...

Â
Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents
in, but
I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I
realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even
without
that spiritualÂrepercussions of it) I became disgusted
with that
sort of subconscious slave mentality.

Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of
their
way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their
kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their
faces
and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan
has
given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express
our
gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at
advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our
shackles as
xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be
worshipped,
(in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to
put us
on our feet.

________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided' and
other...

Â
I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a
problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not
fully
deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I
am
given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is
how he
did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change
"Satan" to
"god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also
indicates
blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The
reason is
simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via
our
effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods
really
did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should
take
the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the
jewish
slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does
anyone
else think this way? SiguardDraconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita
est.
Ave Satanas! RegeSatanas!
 
Japan is always interesting. They wiped xianity out of their nation and resisted Buddhism for centuries. In the end almost wiping it all out in the 19th century.
From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 10:51:27 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...
  Ay, true. Bear in mind though, bowing in Japan is something totally different, as it is culturally conditioned.

The Land Blossoming Cherry is hugely associated with honour, and it may not necessarily have been that xianised by the jewish abomination. Correct me if I'm wrong, but xianity there does not constitute a large percentage of all the believers, correct?

Most are either Shintoist or Zen (though it is unlikely that these religions remained untainted...).

Anyway, I like the idea about bowing slightly with your hands clasped. Not like xians do, kneeling in humility, showing how worthless they are.

I used to kneel, and thus behave like a xian, but obviously, I grew up from this and do not practise such attitude any more. I do not bow in humility before a friend, or a Parent, however powerful He may be. Nor do I do it before my actual, biological parents.

But I'm happy that by this thread some tendencies came into light. For everybody to consider.

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satans! Rege Satanas!

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, Sebastian Vonike wrote:

The Japanese still show this by bowing to each other. The more 'looked up' to the person to them the deeper the bow. The more closer to their own 'rank' the more casual the bow. Not bowing to them would show disrespect, again this is only a mere fact. We'll do as we will.
Hail Satan!

On 20 Jan 2013, at 10:07, Don Danko wrote:

This thread should not be about attacking personal loyality to Satan and how one choses to show this, either by bowing or standing during ritual. If people want to maintain a philosopical disscussion, great. But not a insult filled back and forth of who is holyer then thou.

In the previous world. Bowing was a sign of respect to another. The traditional greeting was a quick bow with clasped hands and a honouring of each other's spiritual being. It was also a way of showing respect to a master who had earned it. The kings where also the High Priests and were selected by a council for being the best of them all. The ancient world was based on a close respect for people. Even a noble would pay respects to a farmer and like wise back.

The closest modern day equivalent of this in the West would be in the military with the salute.


From: Micama Gmicalzoma
To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:36:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.

I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.


Hail Father Satan!!
Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan


From: siguarddraconis
To: mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not. Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "En Haradren Amlug" wrote: I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands. We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads. Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old! -En Haradren Amlug. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "aldric.strickland" wrote: There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure the newer ones do not go to far with it. Hail Myself!! No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan and gives his praise. What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan. However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have. Hail Satan!!!! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "siguarddraconis" wrote: Hehehe, correct indeed. Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they themselves did. Just like the sheep. And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post. We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us whether or not to follow it. As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction. Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "no.state" wrote: For what it's worth to anyone here: I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat" after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name. Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians. Thank you, Enki. Thank you. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "aldric.strickland" wrote: I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God after all. Without him we would not even exist. When you get to much into this I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature. Along with thinking you are better then other Satanists. Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing we need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters. Needing to work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours. Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods. So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail Satan!!!! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, Siatris Teloah wrote: I don't think I'm necessarily better at explaining it, but rereading your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye on this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the other perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is like. A road to nowhere. ________________________________ From: Gus Hinson To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do. ________________________________ From: Siatris Teloah To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make things happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their false piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of good luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that my spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself because of your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be present for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because it is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.  Hail Satan!! ________________________________ From: Gus Hinson To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents in, but I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even without that spiritual repercussions of it) I became disgusted with that sort of subconscious slave mentality. Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of their way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their faces and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan has given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express our gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our shackles as xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be worshipped, (in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to put us on our feet. ________________________________ From: siguarddraconis To: mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not fully deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I am given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is how he did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change "Satan" to "god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also indicates blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The reason is simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via our effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the Gods really did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should take the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the jewish slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does anyone else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!
 
Really!? I didn't know that!

I've always felt a close personal link with Japan. I'm curious about it now.

Thank you for that!

Hail Father Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Don Danko wrote:

Japan is always interesting. They wiped xianity out of their nation and resisted Buddhism for centuries. In the end almost wiping it all out in the 19th century.



________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 10:51:27 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...


 

Ay, true. Bear in mind though, bowing in Japan is something totally different, as it is culturally conditioned.

The Land Blossoming Cherry is hugely associated with honour, and it may not necessarily have been that xianised by the jewish abomination. Correct me if I'm wrong, but xianity there does not constitute a large percentage of all the believers, correct?

Most are either Shintoist or Zen (though it is unlikely that these religions remained untainted...).

Anyway, I like the idea about bowing slightly with your hands clasped. Not like xians do, kneeling in humility, showing how worthless they are.

I used to kneel, and thus behave like a xian, but obviously, I grew up from this and do not practise such attitude any more. I do not bow in humility before a friend, or a Parent, however powerful He may be. Nor do I do it before my actual, biological parents.

But I'm happy that by this thread some tendencies came into light. For everybody to consider.

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satans! Rege Satanas!

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, Sebastian Vonike wrote:

The Japanese still show this by bowing to each other. The more 'looked up' to the person to them the deeper the bow. The more closer to their own 'rank' the more casual the bow. Not bowing to them would show disrespect, again this is only a mere fact. We'll do as we will.
Hail Satan!

On 20 Jan 2013, at 10:07, Don Danko wrote:

This thread should not be about attacking personal loyality to Satan and how one choses to show this, either by bowing or standing during ritual. If people want to maintain a philosopical disscussion, great. But not a insult filled back and forth of who is holyer then thou.

In the previous world. Bowing was a sign of respect to another. The traditional greeting was a quick bow with clasped hands and a honouring of each other's spiritual being. It was also a way of showing respect to a master who had earned it. The kings where also the High Priests and were selected by a council for being the best of them all. The ancient world was based on a close respect for people. Even a noble would pay respects to a farmer and like wise back.

The closest modern day equivalent of this in the West would be in the military with the salute.


From: Micama Gmicalzoma
To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:36:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving
EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.

I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.


Hail Father Satan!!
Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan


From: siguarddraconis
To: mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not. Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "En Haradren Amlug" wrote: I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands. We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads. Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old! -En Haradren Amlug. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "aldric.strickland" wrote: There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure the newer ones do not go to far with it. Hail Myself!! No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan and gives his praise. What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan. However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have. Hail Satan!!!! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "siguarddraconis" wrote: Hehehe,
correct indeed. Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they themselves did. Just like the sheep. And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post. We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us whether or not to follow it. As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction. Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "no.state" wrote: For
what it's worth to anyone here: I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat" after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name. Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians. Thank you, Enki. Thank you. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "aldric.strickland" wrote: I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God after all. Without him we would
not even exist. When you get to much into this I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature. Along with thinking you are better then other Satanists. Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing we need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters. Needing to work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours. Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods. So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail Satan!!!! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, Siatris Teloah wrote: I don't think I'm necessarily better
at explaining it, but rereading your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye on this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the other perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is like. A road to nowhere. ________________________________ From: Gus Hinson To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do. ________________________________ From: Siatris Teloah To:
"mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make things happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their false piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of good luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that my spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be present for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because it is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.  Hail Satan!! ________________________________ From: Gus Hinson To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents in, but I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even without that spiritual repercussions of it) I became disgusted with that
sort of subconscious slave mentality. Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of their way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their faces and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan has given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express our gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our shackles as xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be worshipped, (in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to put us on our feet. ________________________________ From: siguarddraconis To:
mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other... Â I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not fully deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I am given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is how he did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change "Satan" to "god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also indicates blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The reason is simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via our effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the
Gods really did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should take the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the jewish slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does anyone else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!
 
Jehovah's witnesses are very active in Japan and the greatest Xian group there. Cursed are they! Heil Satan

Op 23/01/2013 22:11, lolobardonik schreef:
  Really!? I didn't know that!

I've always felt a close personal link with Japan. I'm curious about it now.

Thank you for that!

Hail Father Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Don Danko wrote:

Japan is always interesting. They wiped xianity out of their nation and resisted Buddhism for centuries. In the end almost wiping it all out in the 19th century.



________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 10:51:27 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...


 

Ay, true. Bear in mind though, bowing in Japan is something totally different, as it is culturally conditioned.

The Land Blossoming Cherry is hugely associated with honour, and it may not necessarily have been that xianised by the jewish abomination. Correct me if I'm wrong, but xianity there does not constitute a large percentage of all the believers, correct?

Most are either Shintoist or Zen (though it is unlikely that these religions remained untainted...).

Anyway, I like the idea about bowing slightly with your hands clasped. Not like xians do, kneeling in humility, showing how worthless they are.

I used to kneel, and thus behave like a xian, but obviously, I grew up from this and do not practise such attitude any more. I do not bow in humility before a friend, or a Parent, however powerful He may be. Nor do I do it before my actual, biological parents.

But I'm happy that by this thread some tendencies came into light. For everybody to consider.

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satans! Rege Satanas!

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, Sebastian Vonike wrote:

The Japanese still show this by bowing to each other. The more 'looked up' to the person to them the deeper the bow. The more closer to their own 'rank' the more casual the bow. Not bowing to them would show disrespect, again this is only a mere fact. We'll do as we will.
Hail Satan!

On 20 Jan 2013, at 10:07, Don Danko wrote:

This thread should not be about attacking personal loyality to Satan and how one choses to show this, either by bowing or standing during ritual. If people want to maintain a philosopical disscussion, great. But not a insult filled back and forth of who is holyer then thou.

In the previous world. Bowing was a sign of respect to another. The traditional greeting was a quick bow with clasped hands and a honouring of each other's spiritual being. It was also a way of showing respect to a master who had earned it. The kings where also the High Priests and were selected by a council for being the best of them all. The ancient world was based on a close respect for people. Even a noble would pay respects to a farmer and like wise back.

The closest modern day equivalent of this in the West would be in the military with the salute.


From: Micama Gmicalzoma
To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:36:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who are you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him, Respecting Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.Do you have any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for what He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to help us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick but what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in achieving
EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.

I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.


Hail Father Satan!!
Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means." - Satan


From: siguarddraconis
To: mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve, for ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about whether the person is a Satanist or not. Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "En Haradren Amlug" wrote: I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original post stands. We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads. Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old! -En Haradren Amlug. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "aldric.strickland" wrote: There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do not want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not be directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make sure the newer ones do not go to far with it. Hail Myself!! No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan and gives his praise. What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power within yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan. However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have. Hail Satan!!!! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "siguarddraconis" wrote: Hehehe,
correct indeed. Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the xian slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something they themselves did. Just like the sheep. And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must not forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist will not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post. We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us whether or not to follow it. As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction. Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "no.state" wrote: For
what it's worth to anyone here: I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians and their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear hat" after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name. Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless automation of thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But I've never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians. Thank you, Enki. Thank you. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "aldric.strickland" wrote: I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God after all. Without him we would
not even exist. When you get to much into this I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature. Along with thinking you are better then other Satanists. Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not seeing we need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters. Needing to work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours. Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods. So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail Satan!!!! --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, Siatris Teloah wrote: I don't think I'm necessarily better
at explaining it, but rereading your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye on this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was xian(baptised cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know the other perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is like. A road to nowhere. ________________________________ From: Gus Hinson To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do. ________________________________ From: Siatris Teloah To:
"mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make things happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their false piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance of good luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for good things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts that my spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be present for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful because it is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.  Hail Satan!! ________________________________ From: Gus Hinson To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...  Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents in, but I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. Once I realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even without that spiritual repercussions of it) I became disgusted with that
sort of subconscious slave mentality. Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of their way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer their kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in their faces and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan has given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express our gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our shackles as xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be worshipped, (in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts to put us on our feet. ________________________________ From: siguarddraconis To:
mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other... Â I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have a problem, the same which can be observed among others who did not fully deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I am given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is how he did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change "Satan" to "god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also indicates blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The reason is simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via our effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the
Gods really did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people should take the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the jewish slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does anyone else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!

<pre class="y[/IMG]-- Reinhard von Kimpen</pre>
 
There is good news on this front. While the jokehovian witlesses were
very active in Japan (and boasted about it) during the 1980s, that has
died down. While I was in, they would use Japan as an example.
Virtually everyone there was in full time service to joke-hova, unlike
elsewhere where most people were out in service maybe 10 hours a month.

However, these days their activity has become less fruitful to them.
They raced past 200,000 members in the early 1990s, and now they are
struggling with just maintaining that number. In fact, they are
experiencing small declines in the country they used to be proud of vast
increases in. I can only hope that religion, along with the other kike
religions, all crash and burn and leave those who spread them up shit
creek without a paddle, in a barbed wire canoe.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Reinhard von Kimpen wrote:

Jehovah's witnesses are very active in Japan and the greatest Xian
group
there. Cursed are they! Heil Satan

Op 23/01/2013 22:11, lolobardonik schreef:

Really!? I didn't know that!

I've always felt a close personal link with Japan. I'm curious about
it now.

Thank you for that!

Hail Father Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
, Don Danko wrote:

Japan is always interesting. They wiped xianity out of their
nation
and resisted Buddhism for centuries. In the end almost wiping it all
out in the 19th century.



________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 10:51:27 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided' and other...


Â

Ay, true. Bear in mind though, bowing in Japan is something
totally
different, as it is culturally conditioned.

The Land Blossoming Cherry is hugely associated with honour, and
it
may not necessarily have been that xianised by the jewish
abomination.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but xianity there does not constitute a
large
percentage of all the believers, correct?

Most are either Shintoist or Zen (though it is unlikely that these
religions remained untainted...).

Anyway, I like the idea about bowing slightly with your hands
clasped. Not like xians do, kneeling in humility, showing how
worthless they are.

I used to kneel, and thus behave like a xian, but obviously, I
grew
up from this and do not practise such attitude any more. I do not
bow
in humility before a friend, or a Parent, however powerful He may
be.
Nor do I do it before my actual, biological parents.

But I'm happy that by this thread some tendencies came into light.
For everybody to consider.

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satans! Rege Satanas!

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, Sebastian Vonike
wrote:

The Japanese still show this by bowing to each other. The more
'looked up' to the person to them the deeper the bow. The more
closer
to their own 'rank' the more casual the bow. Not bowing to them
would
show disrespect, again this is only a mere fact. We'll do as we
will.
Hail Satan!

On 20 Jan 2013, at 10:07, Don Danko wrote:

This thread should not be about attacking personal loyality to
Satan and how one choses to show this, either by bowing or standing
during ritual. If people want to maintain a philosopical
disscussion,
great. But not a insult filled back and forth of who is holyer then
thou.

In the previous world. Bowing was a sign of respect to
another.
The traditional greeting was a quick bow with clasped hands and a
honouring of each other's spiritual being. It was also a way of
showing respect to a master who had earned it. The kings where also
the High Priests and were selected by a council for being the best
of
them all. The ancient world was based on a close respect for people.
Even a noble would pay respects to a farmer and like wise back.

The closest modern day equivalent of this in the West would be
in the military with the salute.


From: Micama Gmicalzoma
To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:36:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with',
'Satan
provided' and other...

You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who
are
you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the
worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing
and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him,
Respecting
Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has
done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here
siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.Do you
have
any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for
what
He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated
that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our
Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to
help
us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick
but
what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have
done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in
achieving
EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.

I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on
everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.


Hail Father Satan!!
Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:"I lead to the straight path
without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones
by
unseen means." - Satan


From: siguarddraconis
To: mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided' and other...

Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further
indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot
understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve,
for
ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about
whether
the person is a Satanist or not. Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera
et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! --- In
mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "En Haradren Amlug" wrote:

I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the
original
post stands. We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We
stand
PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as
equals.
We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads. Hail
Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old! -En Haradren Amlug. ---
In
mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "aldric.strickland" wrote:

There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless
if
we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just
do
not want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise
should not be directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So
I
am not Writing against what you are saying. I am merely on the
side lines to make sure the newer ones do not go to far with it.

Hail Myself!! No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!!
Even a God bows before Satan and gives his praise. What
you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded
differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power
within yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you
may take control of your own destiny. Praise should always be
given to Satan. However, realize what you are capable of and
what
power you have. Hail Satan!!!! --- In
mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "siguarddraconis" wrote:

Hehehe,
correct indeed. Yes, some people who resist to
de-program themselves out of the xian slave/robot mentality will
carry on thanking Satan for something they themselves did. Just
like the sheep. And whereas Satan is deserving of praise
and reverence, we must not forget that we HAVE to recognise our
assets. Otherwise the Satanist will not differ much in his or
her
mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to Satan and nothing to
myself". That's the crux of my post. We have free will,
and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us whether or not
to
follow it. As for me No.state, your words are
praiseworthy, as they are indicative of a Satanic mind which
sees
clearly the distinction. Siguard Draconis.
Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "no.state"
wrote:
For
what it's worth to anyone here: I've no problem
expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed to the
hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation
requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians
and their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter
underwear hat" after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name.

Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless
automation of thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in
praising him. But I've never had the impression I was to be a
zombie for anyone - not from Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead
Xtians. Thank you, Enki. Thank you.
--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "aldric.strickland"
wrote: I
personally
Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God after
all. Without him we would
not even exist. When you get to much into this I do
everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature.
Along
with thinking you are better then other Satanists.

Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you.
Not
seeing we need to band together in Unity with our
Brothers and Sisters. Needing to work together for a
purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours. Besides
that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him
Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust

certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods.

So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail

Satan!!!!

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, Siatris
Teloah wrote: I don't think I'm necessarily
better
at explaining it, but rereading your response to
SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye on
this.ÃfâEURs( Many years ago before I dedicated, I was
xian(baptised
cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it.ÃfâEURs(
So I
know the other perspective of what "praying for
rainbows
and lollipops" is like.ÃfâEURs( A road to
nowhere.

________________________________ From: Gus Hinson

To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent:
Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM Subject: Re:
[JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided'

and other... ÃfâEURs(

I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I
do.
________________________________ From: Siatris Teloah

To:
"mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent:
Saturday,
January 12, 2013 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666]
'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

ÃfâEURs( I believe there's a
wavy
line when it comes to this type of attitude.ÃfâEURs(
I'll
attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I
can.ÃfâEURs(
I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make things

happen for ourselves.ÃfâEURs( The xians are forever
thanking their
false piece of garbage for every little time they have
an instance of good luck.ÃfâEURs( I don't see
anything
wrong with thanking Satan for good things
though.ÃfâEURs( I
do recognize that it's of my own efforts that my
spells
and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's nothing

wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself

because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not
be present for us.ÃfâEURs( So I thank Him when
my
workings are successful because it is He that has
given
us knowledge on how to do these things. ÃfâEURs(

Hail Satan!!
________________________________ From: Gus Hinson

To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent:
Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM Subject: Re:
[JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided'

and other... ÃfâEURs(
Yes,
actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents in, but

I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest.
Once I realized really realized the logical problems of
xianity (even without that spiritualÃfâEURs(
repercussionsÃfâEURs( of it) I became disgusted with that

sort of subconscious slave mentality.

Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of
their way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued
to
offer their kindness even when we (those of us who are
ex-xtian) spat in their faces and cursed them for
their
help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan has given us
is
a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express our

gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at

advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our
shackles as xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God
should
have to be worshipped, (in the xtian sense) but
sincerely thanked for their attempts to put us on our
feet. ________________________________

From: siguarddraconis To:
mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday,
January 11, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan
blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

ÃfâEURs( I've been recently
talking to a
Satanist who appears to have a problem, the same which can
be observed among others who did not fully
deprogrammed
themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I am

given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is
how he did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if
we
change "Satan" to "god/jewhovah" we will get the
typical
xian talk. This also indicates blind faith to which we
have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The reason is simple
-
lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via our

effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the
Gods really did for us, and for which we can be
grateful. Such people should take the effort to
increase
their consciousness and get rid of the jewish slave
mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does anyone

else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et
Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!









--
Reinhard von Kimpen
 
"While I was in", you where a Jehovah's witness?
Heil Satan

Op 24/01/2013 21:56, enemyofjezzuz schreef:
 
There is good news on this front. While the jokehovian witlesses were
very active in Japan (and boasted about it) during the 1980s, that has
died down. While I was in, they would use Japan as an example.
Virtually everyone there was in full time service to joke-hova, unlike
elsewhere where most people were out in service maybe 10 hours a month.

However, these days their activity has become less fruitful to them.
They raced past 200,000 members in the early 1990s, and now they are
struggling with just maintaining that number. In fact, they are
experiencing small declines in the country they used to be proud of vast
increases in. I can only hope that religion, along with the other kike
religions, all crash and burn and leave those who spread them up shit
creek without a paddle, in a barbed wire canoe.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Reinhard von Kimpen wrote:

Jehovah's witnesses are very active in Japan and the greatest Xian
group
there. Cursed are they! Heil Satan

Op 23/01/2013 22:11, lolobardonik schreef:

Really!? I didn't know that!

I've always felt a close personal link with Japan. I'm curious about
it now.

Thank you for that!

Hail Father Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
, Don Danko wrote:

Japan is always interesting. They wiped xianity out of their
nation
and resisted Buddhism for centuries. In the end almost wiping it all
out in the 19th century.



________________________________
From: siguarddraconis
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 10:51:27 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided' and other...


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Ay, true. Bear in mind though, bowing in Japan is something
totally
different, as it is culturally conditioned.

The Land Blossoming Cherry is hugely associated with honour, and
it
may not necessarily have been that xianised by the jewish
abomination.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but xianity there does not constitute a
large
percentage of all the believers, correct?

Most are either Shintoist or Zen (though it is unlikely that these
religions remained untainted...).

Anyway, I like the idea about bowing slightly with your hands
clasped. Not like xians do, kneeling in humility, showing how
worthless they are.

I used to kneel, and thus behave like a xian, but obviously, I
grew
up from this and do not practise such attitude any more. I do not
bow
in humility before a friend, or a Parent, however powerful He may
be.
Nor do I do it before my actual, biological parents.

But I'm happy that by this thread some tendencies came into light.
For everybody to consider.

Siguard Draconis.

Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satans! Rege Satanas!

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, Sebastian Vonike
wrote:

The Japanese still show this by bowing to each other. The more
'looked up' to the person to them the deeper the bow. The more
closer
to their own 'rank' the more casual the bow. Not bowing to them
would
show disrespect, again this is only a mere fact. We'll do as we
will.
Hail Satan!

On 20 Jan 2013, at 10:07, Don Danko wrote:

This thread should not be about attacking personal loyality to
Satan and how one choses to show this, either by bowing or standing
during ritual. If people want to maintain a philosopical
disscussion,
great. But not a insult filled back and forth of who is holyer then
thou.

In the previous world. Bowing was a sign of respect to
another.
The traditional greeting was a quick bow with clasped hands and a
honouring of each other's spiritual being. It was also a way of
showing respect to a master who had earned it. The kings where also
the High Priests and were selected by a council for being the best
of
them all. The ancient world was based on a close respect for people.
Even a noble would pay respects to a farmer and like wise back.

The closest modern day equivalent of this in the West would be
in the military with the salute.


From: Micama Gmicalzoma
To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:36:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with',
'Satan
provided' and other...

You are calling others in this group weak and pathetic? Who
are
you to make such a claim? And WHY you are saying all of this is the
worst part of all, because Dedicated Spiritual Satanists are Bowing
and Kneeling before Our Beloved Father Satan, Honoring Him,
Respecting
Him, and showing our Gratitude to Father Satan for all that He has
done for us. You are the one that should be ashamed here
siguarddraconis and you too En HaradrenAmlug. How dare you.Do you
have
any Respect at all for Satan? Or do you just want to use Him for
what
He is worth to you? Do you not realize that because we are Dedicated
that Satan's energy is flowing though us? The same applies to Our
Guardian Demons. They put there energy out there on our behalf to
help
us in ANY magickal working that we achieve, and not only in magick
but
what we hope to achieve in this world. You must think that you have
done everything in your life all by yourself. Satan plays a role in
achieving
EVERYTHING in our lives. Without Satan we would die.

I suppose that you would vehemently disagree with me on
everything that I have said. You only care about yourself.


Hail Father Satan!!
Forever in the Service of Satan.
From The Al Jilwah Chapter III:"I lead to the straight path
without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones
by
unseen means." - Satan


From: siguarddraconis
To: mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan
provided' and other...

Again, bowing may indicate servitude, and this is further
indicative of xian mentality - weak and pathetic. If someone cannot
understand it, or worse - REFUSES to, he or she will never evolve,
for
ever remaining a slave to the jews, which speaks volumes about
whether
the person is a Satanist or not. Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera
et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas! --- In
mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "En Haradren Amlug" wrote:

I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the
original
post stands. We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We
stand
PROUD and STRONG at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as
equals.
We are not to bow down slavishly, but stand as comrads. Hail
Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old! -En Haradren Amlug. ---
In
mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "aldric.strickland" wrote:

There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless
if
we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just
do
not want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise
should not be directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So
I
am not Writing against what you are saying. I am merely on the
side lines to make sure the newer ones do not go to far with it.

Hail Myself!! No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!!
Even a God bows before Satan and gives his praise. What
you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded
differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power
within yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you
may take control of your own destiny. Praise should always be
given to Satan. However, realize what you are capable of and
what
power you have. Hail Satan!!!! --- In
mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "siguarddraconis" wrote:

Hehehe,
correct indeed. Yes, some people who resist to
de-program themselves out of the xian slave/robot mentality will
carry on thanking Satan for something they themselves did. Just
like the sheep. And whereas Satan is deserving of praise
and reverence, we must not forget that we HAVE to recognise our
assets. Otherwise the Satanist will not differ much in his or
her
mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything to Satan and nothing to
myself". That's the crux of my post. We have free will,
and we can be shown the path, but it is up to us whether or not
to
follow it. As for me No.state, your words are
praiseworthy, as they are indicative of a Satanic mind which
sees
clearly the distinction. Siguard Draconis.
Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "no.state"
wrote:
For
what it's worth to anyone here: I've no problem
expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces opposed to the
hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation
requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians
and their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter
underwear hat" after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name.

Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless
automation of thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in
praising him. But I've never had the impression I was to be a
zombie for anyone - not from Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead
Xtians. Thank you, Enki. Thank you.
--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "aldric.strickland"
wrote: I
personally
Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God after
all. Without him we would
not even exist. When you get to much into this I do
everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish nature.
Along
with thinking you are better then other Satanists.

Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you.
Not
seeing we need to band together in Unity with our
Brothers and Sisters. Needing to work together for a
purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours. Besides
that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise him
Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only trust

certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods.

So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail

Satan!!!!

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, Siatris
Teloah wrote: I don't think I'm necessarily
better
at explaining it, but rereading your response to
SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to eye on
this.ÃfâEURs( Many years ago before I dedicated, I was
xian(baptised
cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it.ÃfâEURs(
So I
know the other perspective of what "praying for
rainbows
and lollipops" is like.ÃfâEURs( A road to
nowhere.

________________________________ From: Gus Hinson

To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent:
Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 PM Subject: Re:
[JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided'

and other... ÃfâEURs(

I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I
do.
________________________________ From: Siatris Teloah

To:
"mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent:
Saturday,
January 12, 2013 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666]
'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

ÃfâEURs( I believe there's a
wavy
line when it comes to this type of attitude.ÃfâEURs(
I'll
attempt to explain how I see it as shortly as I
can.ÃfâEURs(
I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make things

happen for ourselves.ÃfâEURs( The xians are forever
thanking their
false piece of garbage for every little time they have
an instance of good luck.ÃfâEURs( I don't see
anything
wrong with thanking Satan for good things
though.ÃfâEURs( I
do recognize that it's of my own efforts that my
spells
and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's nothing

wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself

because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not
be present for us.ÃfâEURs( So I thank Him when
my
workings are successful because it is He that has
given
us knowledge on how to do these things. ÃfâEURs(

Hail Satan!!
________________________________ From: Gus Hinson

To: "mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com" Sent:
Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:48 AM Subject: Re:
[JoyofSatan666] 'Satan blessed us with', 'Satan provided'

and other... ÃfâEURs(
Yes,
actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two cents in, but

I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest.
Once I realized really realized the logical problems of
xianity (even without that spiritualÃfâEURs(
repercussionsÃfâEURs( of it) I became disgusted with that

sort of subconscious slave mentality.

Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out of
their way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued
to
offer their kindness even when we (those of us who are
ex-xtian) spat in their faces and cursed them for
their
help. The spiritual knowledge that Satan has given us
is
a very substantial gift. We should, I think, express our

gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can at

advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our
shackles as xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God
should
have to be worshipped, (in the xtian sense) but
sincerely thanked for their attempts to put us on our
feet. ________________________________

From: siguarddraconis To:
mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday,
January 11, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: [JoyofSatan666] 'Satan
blessed us with', 'Satan provided' and other...

ÃfâEURs( I've been recently
talking to a
Satanist who appears to have a problem, the same which can
be observed among others who did not fully
deprogrammed
themselves of xianity. He was saying something "If I am

given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable is
how he did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if
we
change "Satan" to "god/jewhovah" we will get the
typical
xian talk. This also indicates blind faith to which we
have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The reason is simple
-
lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did via our

effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the
Gods really did for us, and for which we can be
grateful. Such people should take the effort to
increase
their consciousness and get rid of the jewish slave
mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or does anyone

else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et
Vita est. Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!









--
Reinhard von Kimpen

<pre class="y[/IMG]-- Reinhard von Kimpen</pre>
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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