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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hoodedcobra666" wrote:
Respect is something anyone has differently. I have bowed to Satan many times and I will bow many more. Because this is how I see respect. "Getting on my knees" doesn't have a different motive of being a slave. I bow like a Warrior about to receive a blessing from Satan and continuing to do his work. Like a blessing before battle. It doesn't take my pride away.
It boosts my Pride. Some initiations require bowing before the King [Although this is allegorical]. This isn't to denigrate yourself or to show that you're less than the King, or someone else. Comparssions like these are silly. Especially if I have a 500,000 year old being that in the end, gives a fuck about me and my evolution. Respect can never come out from a slave mentality. One can never respect who has them enslaved. Respect is won and not enforced upon. Its not about His age, wisdom and all this. Its something more. Especially if your Father was someone that great.
And lets be realistic now. Satan wants nothing of this, He is not a vain being like the enemy, waiting for recognition. But this is how I personally feel about it. I do not see this as an act of humiliation or an act from a lower being to a higher one. Lets be realistic now, shall we. Satan and His Gods are very advanced, they are our patrons and our family. I never bow to another God other than Satan. Its just ignorant to think one is such a somebody as to place themselves besides the Gods, just because they believe it that way. Make it there first, become the God, do all the feats and acquire all the Siddhis and then, well done. This is not to denigrate your ego. This is reality.
Without Satan nothing would exist, not even us. You can be the greatest and become a God, but one must never forget how much more ahead the Gods are. And Satan is not only master of the Earth, but Ruler of Hell, of beings hundreds of years more advanced than us. Yet, He is working to evolve and help us. This deserves respect and is a commendable deed. Now HOW you will give the respect, is a little minor thing. Some people preffer to help in warfare, spread knowledge or whatever. We fight for Satan out of respect anyways.
Satan has showed me respect. Not going into details, but Satan has shown me respect and he is a gentleman. He respects us back as much as we do.
Focusing so much on if you're going to kneel or not is just stupid, in my opinion. Its like people focusing on the physical aspect of orgasm. While the real value is in what your soul undergoes through the moment. Now if my knees will be here or in the floor, it never changes that I would really KNEEL before Satan. Even if one day I was amongst the Gods, I would take a moment and kneel again to the being that made me what I am today. Because thats just how I see it. This action doesn't take my Pride, drive, faith in myself, self-sufficience and every other value away from me.
I understand both Siguard and Aldric. And of course Haradren's view. I am just giving my own here.
HAIL SATAN!!!!!!
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:
I bow before Satan. Maxine Talked about how she would Kneel before her
Altar everyday. She says in a sermon. "There is nothing wronge with
getting down and showing some Grattitude, I have."
I do not know where this Mentality of not being able to Show
Grattitude or Humility to Satan has come from. It certainly has not come
from the Joy Of Satan Ministries.
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "En Haradren Amlug" wrote:
I understand what you're trying to say. But I still think the original
post stands.
We do NOT bow before Satan, we do NOT Kneel. We stand PROUD and STRONG
at our Fathers side, and face his enemies as equals. We are not to bow
down slavishly, but stand as comrads.
Hail Satan! Praise the True Gods of Old!
-En Haradren Amlug.
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:
There is no Harm done in Thanking Satan. Regardless if we did it
ourselves or not. I fully Understand what I am able to do. I just do
not
want the newer ones to get mislead on an idea that Praise should not
be
directed to Satan. I have seen this many times. So I am not Writing
against what you are saying. I am merely on the side lines to make
sure
the newer ones do not go to far with it.
Hail Myself!!
No, it is now and forever Hail Satan!! Even a God bows before Satan
and gives his praise.
What you are saying is true. However, needs to be sligthly worded
differntly. How about, You need to recognize that you have power
within
yourself. You need to meditate and gain power so that you may take
control of your own destiny. Praise should always be given to Satan.
However, realize what you are capable of and what power you have.
Hail Satan!!!!
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" wrote:
Hehehe, correct indeed.
Yes, some people who resist to de-program themselves out of the
xian
slave/robot mentality will carry on thanking Satan for something
they
themselves did. Just like the sheep.
And whereas Satan is deserving of praise and reverence, we must
not
forget that we HAVE to recognise our assets. Otherwise the Satanist
will
not differ much in his or her mentality, i.e. that "I owe everything
to
Satan and nothing to myself". That's the crux of my post.
We have free will, and we can be shown the path, but it is up to
us
whether or not to follow it.
As for me No.state, your words are praiseworthy, as they are
indicative of a Satanic mind which sees clearly the distinction.
Siguard Draconis.
Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "no.state" wrote:
For what it's worth to anyone here:
I've no problem expressing gratitude to all spiritual forces
opposed
to the hurtful ones. But I just can't see His message of liberation
requiring us to bow and scrape and be mental robots like the Xtians
and
their "gwad is gud" crap or the muslim's "peanut butter underwear
hat"
after every mention of the idiot muHAMed's name.
Personally, I'm striving for the godhead, not mindless
automation of
thought. Do what you want. I'll even join you in praising him. But
I've
never had the impression I was to be a zombie for anyone - not from
Satan anyway. That's for brain-dead Xtians.
Thank you, Enki. Thank you.
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aldric.strickland" wrote:
I personally Thank Father Satan for everything. He is our God
after
all. Without him we would not even exist. When you get to much
into this
I do everything mentality. You start to fall in a selfish
nature.
Along
with thinking you are better then other Satanists.
Then The disunity appears. As it becomes all about you. Not
seeing
we
need to band together in Unity with our Brothers and Sisters.
Needing to
work together for a purpose. To serve Satans will. Not ours.
Besides that Satan does alot of things for us. I will praise
him
Forever even as a God. That is the Point though, Why he only
trust
certain ones (His Dedicated Ones) To become Gods.
So Thank You Satan for everything you have done for me. Hail
Satan!!!!
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Siatris Teloah wrote:
I don't think I'm necessarily better at explaining it, but
rereading
your response to SiguardDraconis I can tell that we see eye to
eye
on
this. Many years ago before I dedicated, I was
xian(baptised
cuntlick)<---makes me sick thinking about it. So I know
the
other
perspective of what "praying for rainbows and lollipops" is
like. A
road to nowhere.
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From: Gus Hinson
To: "
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I guess you do a better job of explaining that than I do.
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From: Siatris Teloah
To: "
[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]"
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I believe there's a wavy line when it comes to this type of
attitude. I'll attempt to explain how I see it as shortly
as I
can. I believe that Satan 'gives' us the knowledge to make
things
happen for ourselves. The xians are forever thanking their
false
piece of garbage for every little time they have an instance
of
good
luck. I don't see anything wrong with thanking Satan for
good
things though. I do recognize that it's of my own efforts
that
my
spells and meditations work for my desired goal, and there's
nothing
wrong with acknowledging that and feeling pride in yourself
because of
your abilities but without Satan, this knowledge would not be
present
for us. So I thank Him when my workings are successful
because
it
is He that has given us knowledge on how to do these things.
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Hail Satan!!
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From: Gus Hinson
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Yes, actually, I noticed that and tried throwing my two
cents
in, but
I guess nobody noticed. It's a bit sickening, to be honest.
Once I
realized really realized the logical problems of xianity (even
without
that spiritual repercussions of it) I became disgusted
with that
sort of subconscious slave mentality.
Anyways, YES, Satan and all the gods of Duat have gone out
of
their
way to grant us spiritual knowledge, and continued to offer
their
kindness even when we (those of us who are ex-xtian) spat in
their
faces
and cursed them for their help. The spiritual knowledge that
Satan
has
given us is a very substantial gift. We should, I think,
express
our
gratitude by accepting it nobly and working as hard as we can
at
advancing spiritually, instead of offering up the key to our
shackles as
xtains do to their jewhovah. No true God should have to be
worshipped,
(in the xtian sense) but sincerely thanked for their attempts
to
put us
on our feet.
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From: siguarddraconis
To:
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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM
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I've been recently talking to a Satanist who appears to have
a
problem, the same which can be observed among others who did
not
fully
deprogrammed themselves of xianity. He was saying something
"If I
am
given it" (by Satan/the Gods). What is immediately observable
is
how he
did not get rids of the xian mentality, because if we change
"Satan" to
"god/jewhovah" we will get the typical xian talk. This also
indicates
blind faith to which we have NO REASONABLE or HARD facts. The
reason is
simple - lack of consciousness regarding what we ourselves did
via
our
effort and what - in the case of Spiritual Satanists - the
Gods
really
did for us, and for which we can be grateful. Such people
should
take
the effort to increase their consciousness and get rid of the
jewish
slave mentality remnants. So, is it only my observation or
does
anyone
else think this way? Siguard Draconis. Satanas Via, Vera et
Vita
est.
Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!