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I posted to the main JOS group as well but it fights here better.

I'm sorry, I tried to break this up as best I could, but it's a little long.

Okay, the other day I was meditating and I had a very in-depth but in some ways confusing experience. I was wondering if my brothers and sisters could give me some insight on this. The important background info here is that I am a lesbian(I know, I'll post this to the Satanic Gay group as well) who has been seeking lesbian lore in paganism.

Any in my meditation I found myself walking through a large field, down a smaller path and up to a HUGE white oak tree. At the base of the tree's roots was a big hole into the earth. I went through the hole into the earth and found myself in Hell. I was in an enormous cavern that was dimly lit with blue light(think of Demon energy). There were fireflies all over the play and they glowed with a blue light as well.

I walked further into the cavern(it was beautifull in an unreal sorta way) and saw a large group of woman standing around a tree(another big white oak). The woman were from all different times and cultures and they were skyclad. I could tell instantly that they were with Satan, so when they asked me to join them I agreed.

The woman held each others hands and danced around the tree. I somehow got pushed to the center, away from the women and up to the tree. I put my hands on it's trunk and could feel a huge amount of Satanic energy running through it, into me.

Suddenly I looked up and saw a Demoness standing in the branches. She was beautiful in a natural way(no makeup or anything like that). Now, please don't think I'm a perv or anything but she was scantly clad in some animal fur and vegatation. Sha was holding a spear and she had deer antlers on her head.

She jumped down in front of me and smiled. She took my hand and started to lead me away from the tree. I felt happy and safe with Her(She's a Demonness after all :)) and so I followed.

Here is where things start to confuse me.

She told me I could call Her Ellen and that She was a lesbian. She took me to the far end of the cavern to a cliff. The cliff was shrouded in mist and fog. She gestured and it cleared away leaving what looked like an entire city below me.

The city was gorgeous and next to a large ocean. It was full of temples as well as mundane things. I could see other females down there working and playing. Ellen told me that as Satanists we all bring our own identity and talents to Satanism.

She said that Hell would be a boring place if we were all 100% alike. She explained that when we go to Hell(in-between lifetimes) it's not like we are just going to one place. Hell is HUGE and will never run out of space. Because of this there are an uncountable number of different places and areas inside of Hell.

All different climates are represented there. Also people who share things in common(race, sexual orientation,culture,etc.) have there own place to store their own histories and lore. You don't stay in your one little area while you are in Hell though.

You mingle with ALL Satanists most of the time(which would explain why I saw no houses down in the city).
Ellen: "Satanist first, cultural/racial/sexual/whatever/identity later. Our shared Father knows it's important for us all to unite, and stay united. Without anything else dividing us."

However, she told me that since we all are different, we may inherit different talents and roles. She told me that there is special lore and energy wrapped up in our differences. It's not better or worse, just different. She told me that the women I had seen were ancestors of lesbian Satanists but that there were Satanic ancestors for all types of Satanists and Satanic anscestors in general.

She connected this all with shamanism. Ellen told me that any Satanist could seek advice from Satanic human spirits that were still in Hell. With this, she brought me back to my body.
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Here are my questions that maybe you guys could help me with:
1.I keep googling "Pagan goddess Ellen" but the only things I get is a Goddess that does not really match what Ellen was like to me. True, She seems to be an obscure goddess....

2.What do you think of this experience? I am 110% sure it was real and that everything I experienced was Satanic but I am still unsure of myself.

3. Also, since we know that Hell is NOT underground what could the trees and the hole under the tree symbolize?

Thank you for your help, my head is spinning....
666/88
 
The true Hell is a place where the deceased are taken care of and is where some gods and goddesses reside.But other than hell, there are many other places in the astral. I believe that before you were in hell, you were in another place in the astral. The place you were in first may have been one of the "entrances" to hell. It's possible but I am unsure so someone correct me if I'm wrong.Then you went down into the hole and found yourself in a cavern filled with blue energy. Hell has been described as such before.I also believe that the tree you touched is the "Tree of Life". The Tree of Life represents the chakra's, their pathways, and the human soul. Which is only more proof that you were in hell. Also, many poems have been written of the Tree of Life and one even spoke of sitting with Father Satan under the tree. Which also makes me think that this tree must reside in hell. Which is, once again, furthering the proof that you were there.As for Ellen, I believe she may, in fact, be your guardian demon. She is a lesbian like you. She identified specifically with you. And many other things. But this is only what I believe.I have not found the name "Ellen" anywhere on the JOS list of demons. So she could be one the JOS clergy have not met yet. After all, there are SEVERAL demons.
I wouldn't suggest looking for her on google because any information you may find could actually be kike infested lies. When seeking information on a demon, it is best to either go directly to the demon or ask Satan.So if you would like some more information on the demoness Ellen, what I would suggest doing is a ritual to Father Satan and ask him if it would be alright to contact Ellen. If you get a positive feeling or another sign telling you its alright, than go on ahead. Than, if he does not show you a sigil of some kind, think the name Ellen in your mind several times and while thinking her name, go into a trance and try to astral project. This may help you find her. THan when you DO find her, you can ask her more about herself.I think this experience was very significant and had several purposes. One of them could have been finding your guardian demon, which I believe Ellen to be. But as I said, I am unsure. Also, I believe this experience was to help you know more about Hell and how Lesbians reside there within.But one thing that I am certain of is that you DID visit hell.
Sincerely,Lilith Crowley
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Al Jilwah; Father Satan's Words
"Do not mention my name nor my attributes, lest ye regret it; for ye do not know what those who are without may do."

Hail Father Satan! Salutare Satanas! Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!
Praise all gods and kings of Duat!

Raven
www.joyofsatan.com
www.exposingchristianity.com
From: DemonW <satansgirl66@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:13 AM
Subject: [Satanicgaycommunity] Questions about a Queer Demon Experience

  I posted to the main JOS group as well but it fights here better.

I'm sorry, I tried to break this up as best I could, but it's a little long.

Okay, the other day I was meditating and I had a very in-depth but in some ways confusing experience. I was wondering if my brothers and sisters could give me some insight on this. The important background info here is that I am a lesbian(I know, I'll post this to the Satanic Gay group as well) who has been seeking lesbian lore in paganism.

Any in my meditation I found myself walking through a large field, down a smaller path and up to a HUGE white oak tree. At the base of the tree's roots was a big hole into the earth. I went through the hole into the earth and found myself in Hell. I was in an enormous cavern that was dimly lit with blue light(think of Demon energy). There were fireflies all over the play and they glowed with a blue light as well.

I walked further into the cavern(it was beautifull in an unreal sorta way) and saw a large group of woman standing around a tree(another big white oak). The woman were from all different times and cultures and they were skyclad. I could tell instantly that they were with Satan, so when they asked me to join them I agreed.

The woman held each others hands and danced around the tree. I somehow got pushed to the center, away from the women and up to the tree. I put my hands on it's trunk and could feel a huge amount of Satanic energy running through it, into me.

Suddenly I looked up and saw a Demoness standing in the branches. She was beautiful in a natural way(no makeup or anything like that). Now, please don't think I'm a perv or anything but she was scantly clad in some animal fur and vegatation. Sha was holding a spear and she had deer antlers on her head.

She jumped down in front of me and smiled. She took my hand and started to lead me away from the tree. I felt happy and safe with Her(She's a Demonness after all :)) and so I followed.

Here is where things start to confuse me.

She told me I could call Her Ellen and that She was a lesbian. She took me to the far end of the cavern to a cliff. The cliff was shrouded in mist and fog. She gestured and it cleared away leaving what looked like an entire city below me.

The city was gorgeous and next to a large ocean. It was full of temples as well as mundane things. I could see other females down there working and playing. Ellen told me that as Satanists we all bring our own identity and talents to Satanism.

She said that Hell would be a boring place if we were all 100% alike. She explained that when we go to Hell(in-between lifetimes) it's not like we are just going to one place. Hell is HUGE and will never run out of space. Because of this there are an uncountable number of different places and areas inside of Hell.

All different climates are represented there. Also people who share things in common(race, sexual orientation,culture,etc.) have there own place to store their own histories and lore. You don't stay in your one little area while you are in Hell though.

You mingle with ALL Satanists most of the time(which would explain why I saw no houses down in the city).
Ellen: "Satanist first, cultural/racial/sexual/whatever/identity later. Our shared Father knows it's important for us all to unite, and stay united. Without anything else dividing us."

However, she told me that since we all are different, we may inherit different talents and roles. She told me that there is special lore and energy wrapped up in our differences. It's not better or worse, just different. She told me that the women I had seen were ancestors of lesbian Satanists but that there were Satanic ancestors for all types of Satanists and Satanic anscestors in general.

She connected this all with shamanism. Ellen told me that any Satanist could seek advice from Satanic human spirits that were still in Hell. With this, she brought me back to my body.
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Here are my questions that maybe you guys could help me with:
1.I keep googling "Pagan goddess Ellen" but the only things I get is a Goddess that does not really match what Ellen was like to me. True, She seems to be an obscure goddess.... 2.What do you think of this experience? I am 110% sure it was real and that everything I experienced was Satanic but I am still unsure of myself. 3. Also, since we know that Hell is NOT underground what could the trees and the hole under the tree symbolize?
Thank you for your help, my head is spinning....
666/88



 
Thank you for your reply. I posted this to the main group as well since I think it's also a Satanic question/experience in general as well as being gay-related. However, I can't find it there.

Anyway, I am very thankful for the advice and I will do a ritual and try to get to know Ellen. All I can find on the web about Her is Kike-infested neo-pagan crap.

The thing is though, I alreay have a GD named Ipos(the egpytian god). Is it possible to have more than one? Like a male and a female?
666/88

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Lilith Crowley <lilylavycrowley@... wrote:

The true Hell is a place where the deceased are taken care of and is where some gods and goddesses reside.
But other than hell, there are many other places in the astral. I believe that before you were in hell, you were in another place in the astral. The place you were in first may have been one of the "entrances" to hell. It's possible but I am unsure so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Then you went down into the hole and found yourself in a cavern filled with blue energy. Hell has been described as such before.
I also believe that the tree you touched is the "Tree of Life". The Tree of Life represents the chakra's, their pathways, and the human soul. Which is only more proof that you were in hell. Also, many poems have been written of the Tree of Life and one even spoke of sitting with Father Satan under the tree. Which also makes me think that this tree must reside in hell. Which is, once again, furthering the proof that you were there.
As for Ellen, I believe she may, in fact, be your guardian demon. She is a lesbian like you. She identified specifically with you. And many other things. But this is only what I believe.
I have not found the name "Ellen" anywhere on the JOS list of demons. So she could be one the JOS clergy have not met yet. After all, there are SEVERAL demons.

I wouldn't suggest looking for her on google because any information you may find could actually be kike infested lies. When seeking information on a demon, it is best to either go directly to the demon or ask Satan.
So if you would like some more information on the demoness Ellen, what I would suggest doing is a ritual to Father Satan and ask him if it would be alright to contact Ellen. If you get a positive feeling or another sign telling you its alright, than go on ahead. Than, if he does not show you a sigil of some kind, think the name Ellen in your mind several times and while thinking her name, go into a trance and try to astral project. This may help you find her. THan when you DO find her, you can ask her more about herself.
I think this experience was very significant and had several purposes. One of them could have been finding your guardian demon, which I believe Ellen to be. But as I said, I am unsure. 
Also, I believe this experience was to help you know more about Hell and how Lesbians reside there within.
But one thing that I am certain of is that you DID visit hell.

Sincerely,
Lilith Crowley

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_|_
  |


Al Jilwah; Father Satan's Words
"Do not mention my name nor my attributes, lest ye regret it; for ye do not know what those who are without may do."


Hail Father Satan! Salutare Satanas! Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!
Praise all gods and kings of Duat!


Raven
www.joyofsatan.com
www.exposingchristianity.com


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From: DemonW <satansgirl66@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:13 AM
Subject: [Satanicgaycommunity] Questions about a Queer Demon Experience


 
I posted to the main JOS group as well but it fights here better.

I'm sorry, I tried to break this up as best I could, but it's a little long.

Okay, the other day I was meditating and I had a very in-depth but in some ways confusing experience. I was wondering if my brothers and sisters could give me some insight on this. The important background info here is that I am a lesbian(I know, I'll post this to the Satanic Gay group as well) who has been seeking lesbian lore in paganism.

Any in my meditation I found myself walking through a large field, down a smaller path and up to a HUGE white oak tree. At the base of the tree's roots was a big hole into the earth. I went through the hole into the earth and found myself in Hell. I was in an enormous cavern that was dimly lit with blue light(think of Demon energy). There were fireflies all over the play and they glowed with a blue light as well.

I walked further into the cavern(it was beautifull in an unreal sorta way) and saw a large group of woman standing around a tree(another big white oak). The woman were from all different times and cultures and they were skyclad. I could tell instantly that they were with Satan, so when they asked me to join them I agreed.

The woman held each others hands and danced around the tree. I somehow got pushed to the center, away from the women and up to the tree. I put my hands on it's trunk and could feel a huge amount of Satanic energy running through it, into me.

Suddenly I looked up and saw a Demoness standing in the branches. She was beautiful in a natural way(no makeup or anything like that). Now, please don't think I'm a perv or anything but she was scantly clad in some animal fur and vegatation. Sha was holding a spear and she had deer antlers on her head.

She jumped down in front of me and smiled. She took my hand and started to lead me away from the tree. I felt happy and safe with Her(She's a Demonness after all :)) and so I followed.

Here is where things start to confuse me.

She told me I could call Her Ellen and that She was a lesbian. She took me to the far end of the cavern to a cliff. The cliff was shrouded in mist and fog. She gestured and it cleared away leaving what looked like an entire city below me.

The city was gorgeous and next to a large ocean. It was full of temples as well as mundane things. I could see other females down there working and playing. Ellen told me that as Satanists we all bring our own identity and talents to Satanism.

She said that Hell would be a boring place if we were all 100% alike. She explained that when we go to Hell(in-between lifetimes) it's not like we are just going to one place. Hell is HUGE and will never run out of space. Because of this there are an uncountable number of different places and areas inside of Hell.

All different climates are represented there. Also people who share things in common(race, sexual orientation,culture,etc.) have there own place to store their own histories and lore. You don't stay in your one little area while you are in Hell though.

You mingle with ALL Satanists most of the time(which would explain why I saw no houses down in the city).
Ellen: "Satanist first, cultural/racial/sexual/whatever/identity later. Our shared Father knows it's important for us all to unite, and stay united. Without anything else dividing us."

However, she told me that since we all are different, we may inherit different talents and roles. She told me that there is special lore and energy wrapped up in our differences. It's not better or worse, just different. She told me that the women I had seen were ancestors of lesbian Satanists but that there were Satanic ancestors for all types of Satanists and Satanic anscestors in general.

She connected this all with shamanism. Ellen told me that any Satanist could seek advice from Satanic human spirits that were still in Hell. With this, she brought me back to my body.
----------------------------------------------------------
Here are my questions that maybe you guys could help me with:
1.I keep googling "Pagan goddess Ellen" but the only things I get is a Goddess that does not really match what Ellen was like to me. True, She seems to be an obscure goddess....
2.What do you think of this experience? I am 110% sure it was real and that everything I experienced was Satanic but I am still unsure of myself.
3. Also, since we know that Hell is NOT underground what could the trees and the hole under the tree symbolize?

Thank you for your help, my head is spinning....
666/88
 
Yes, it is possible. But in your case, I believe she's a goddess that's close to you but not exactly your GD. The only way you can be sure is talking to her again.

The celts believed that oak trees could be gateways to other worlds. The hole on the ground could very well be the gateway itself. Of course it could have been any other thing, but this specific imagery can mean you have celtic heritage, or that you've been a celt in another life and this goddess was there with you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "DemonW" <satansgirl66@... wrote:

Thank you for your reply. I posted this to the main group as well since I think it's also a Satanic question/experience in general as well as being gay-related. However, I can't find it there.

Anyway, I am very thankful for the advice and I will do a ritual and try to get to know Ellen. All I can find on the web about Her is Kike-infested neo-pagan crap.

The thing is though, I alreay have a GD named Ipos(the egpytian god). Is it possible to have more than one? Like a male and a female?
666/88

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Lilith Crowley <lilylavycrowley@ wrote:

The true Hell is a place where the deceased are taken care of and is where some gods and goddesses reside.
But other than hell, there are many other places in the astral. I believe that before you were in hell, you were in another place in the astral. The place you were in first may have been one of the "entrances" to hell. It's possible but I am unsure so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Then you went down into the hole and found yourself in a cavern filled with blue energy. Hell has been described as such before.
I also believe that the tree you touched is the "Tree of Life". The Tree of Life represents the chakra's, their pathways, and the human soul. Which is only more proof that you were in hell. Also, many poems have been written of the Tree of Life and one even spoke of sitting with Father Satan under the tree. Which also makes me think that this tree must reside in hell. Which is, once again, furthering the proof that you were there.
As for Ellen, I believe she may, in fact, be your guardian demon. She is a lesbian like you. She identified specifically with you. And many other things. But this is only what I believe.
I have not found the name "Ellen" anywhere on the JOS list of demons. So she could be one the JOS clergy have not met yet. After all, there are SEVERAL demons.

I wouldn't suggest looking for her on google because any information you may find could actually be kike infested lies. When seeking information on a demon, it is best to either go directly to the demon or ask Satan.
So if you would like some more information on the demoness Ellen, what I would suggest doing is a ritual to Father Satan and ask him if it would be alright to contact Ellen. If you get a positive feeling or another sign telling you its alright, than go on ahead. Than, if he does not show you a sigil of some kind, think the name Ellen in your mind several times and while thinking her name, go into a trance and try to astral project. This may help you find her. THan when you DO find her, you can ask her more about herself.
I think this experience was very significant and had several purposes. One of them could have been finding your guardian demon, which I believe Ellen to be. But as I said, I am unsure. 
Also, I believe this experience was to help you know more about Hell and how Lesbians reside there within.
But one thing that I am certain of is that you DID visit hell.

Sincerely,
Lilith Crowley

  |
  |
_|_
  |


Al Jilwah; Father Satan's Words
"Do not mention my name nor my attributes, lest ye regret it; for ye do not know what those who are without may do."


Hail Father Satan! Salutare Satanas! Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!
Praise all gods and kings of Duat!


Raven
www.joyofsatan.com
www.exposingchristianity.com


________________________________
From: DemonW <satansgirl66@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:13 AM
Subject: [Satanicgaycommunity] Questions about a Queer Demon Experience


 
I posted to the main JOS group as well but it fights here better.

I'm sorry, I tried to break this up as best I could, but it's a little long.

Okay, the other day I was meditating and I had a very in-depth but in some ways confusing experience. I was wondering if my brothers and sisters could give me some insight on this. The important background info here is that I am a lesbian(I know, I'll post this to the Satanic Gay group as well) who has been seeking lesbian lore in paganism.

Any in my meditation I found myself walking through a large field, down a smaller path and up to a HUGE white oak tree. At the base of the tree's roots was a big hole into the earth. I went through the hole into the earth and found myself in Hell. I was in an enormous cavern that was dimly lit with blue light(think of Demon energy). There were fireflies all over the play and they glowed with a blue light as well.

I walked further into the cavern(it was beautifull in an unreal sorta way) and saw a large group of woman standing around a tree(another big white oak). The woman were from all different times and cultures and they were skyclad. I could tell instantly that they were with Satan, so when they asked me to join them I agreed.

The woman held each others hands and danced around the tree. I somehow got pushed to the center, away from the women and up to the tree. I put my hands on it's trunk and could feel a huge amount of Satanic energy running through it, into me.

Suddenly I looked up and saw a Demoness standing in the branches. She was beautiful in a natural way(no makeup or anything like that). Now, please don't think I'm a perv or anything but she was scantly clad in some animal fur and vegatation. Sha was holding a spear and she had deer antlers on her head.

She jumped down in front of me and smiled. She took my hand and started to lead me away from the tree. I felt happy and safe with Her(She's a Demonness after all :)) and so I followed.

Here is where things start to confuse me.

She told me I could call Her Ellen and that She was a lesbian. She took me to the far end of the cavern to a cliff. The cliff was shrouded in mist and fog. She gestured and it cleared away leaving what looked like an entire city below me.

The city was gorgeous and next to a large ocean. It was full of temples as well as mundane things. I could see other females down there working and playing. Ellen told me that as Satanists we all bring our own identity and talents to Satanism.

She said that Hell would be a boring place if we were all 100% alike. She explained that when we go to Hell(in-between lifetimes) it's not like we are just going to one place. Hell is HUGE and will never run out of space. Because of this there are an uncountable number of different places and areas inside of Hell.

All different climates are represented there. Also people who share things in common(race, sexual orientation,culture,etc.) have there own place to store their own histories and lore. You don't stay in your one little area while you are in Hell though.

You mingle with ALL Satanists most of the time(which would explain why I saw no houses down in the city).
Ellen: "Satanist first, cultural/racial/sexual/whatever/identity later. Our shared Father knows it's important for us all to unite, and stay united. Without anything else dividing us."

However, she told me that since we all are different, we may inherit different talents and roles. She told me that there is special lore and energy wrapped up in our differences. It's not better or worse, just different. She told me that the women I had seen were ancestors of lesbian Satanists but that there were Satanic ancestors for all types of Satanists and Satanic anscestors in general.

She connected this all with shamanism. Ellen told me that any Satanist could seek advice from Satanic human spirits that were still in Hell. With this, she brought me back to my body.
----------------------------------------------------------
Here are my questions that maybe you guys could help me with:
1.I keep googling "Pagan goddess Ellen" but the only things I get is a Goddess that does not really match what Ellen was like to me. True, She seems to be an obscure goddess....
2.What do you think of this experience? I am 110% sure it was real and that everything I experienced was Satanic but I am still unsure of myself.
3. Also, since we know that Hell is NOT underground what could the trees and the hole under the tree symbolize?

Thank you for your help, my head is spinning....
666/88
 
Thanks your post has been really helpful. A long time ago(before I dedicated) I had a dream about a big white oak tree. In my dream somthing was written on the tree. Whatever it was it was supposed to be very important for me to know but I woke up before I got a chance to go to the tree.

Maybe that ties in?
666/88

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ophiuchus" <ashitakeakizuki@... wrote:

Yes, it is possible. But in your case, I believe she's a goddess that's close to you but not exactly your GD. The only way you can be sure is talking to her again.

The celts believed that oak trees could be gateways to other worlds. The hole on the ground could very well be the gateway itself. Of course it could have been any other thing, but this specific imagery can mean you have celtic heritage, or that you've been a celt in another life and this goddess was there with you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "DemonW" <satansgirl66@ wrote:

Thank you for your reply. I posted this to the main group as well since I think it's also a Satanic question/experience in general as well as being gay-related. However, I can't find it there.

Anyway, I am very thankful for the advice and I will do a ritual and try to get to know Ellen. All I can find on the web about Her is Kike-infested neo-pagan crap.

The thing is though, I alreay have a GD named Ipos(the egpytian god). Is it possible to have more than one? Like a male and a female?
666/88

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Lilith Crowley <lilylavycrowley@ wrote:

The true Hell is a place where the deceased are taken care of and is where some gods and goddesses reside.
But other than hell, there are many other places in the astral. I believe that before you were in hell, you were in another place in the astral. The place you were in first may have been one of the "entrances" to hell. It's possible but I am unsure so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Then you went down into the hole and found yourself in a cavern filled with blue energy. Hell has been described as such before.
I also believe that the tree you touched is the "Tree of Life". The Tree of Life represents the chakra's, their pathways, and the human soul. Which is only more proof that you were in hell. Also, many poems have been written of the Tree of Life and one even spoke of sitting with Father Satan under the tree. Which also makes me think that this tree must reside in hell. Which is, once again, furthering the proof that you were there.
As for Ellen, I believe she may, in fact, be your guardian demon. She is a lesbian like you. She identified specifically with you. And many other things. But this is only what I believe.
I have not found the name "Ellen" anywhere on the JOS list of demons. So she could be one the JOS clergy have not met yet. After all, there are SEVERAL demons.

I wouldn't suggest looking for her on google because any information you may find could actually be kike infested lies. When seeking information on a demon, it is best to either go directly to the demon or ask Satan.
So if you would like some more information on the demoness Ellen, what I would suggest doing is a ritual to Father Satan and ask him if it would be alright to contact Ellen. If you get a positive feeling or another sign telling you its alright, than go on ahead. Than, if he does not show you a sigil of some kind, think the name Ellen in your mind several times and while thinking her name, go into a trance and try to astral project. This may help you find her. THan when you DO find her, you can ask her more about herself.
I think this experience was very significant and had several purposes. One of them could have been finding your guardian demon, which I believe Ellen to be. But as I said, I am unsure. 
Also, I believe this experience was to help you know more about Hell and how Lesbians reside there within.
But one thing that I am certain of is that you DID visit hell.

Sincerely,
Lilith Crowley

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Al Jilwah; Father Satan's Words
"Do not mention my name nor my attributes, lest ye regret it; for ye do not know what those who are without may do."


Hail Father Satan! Salutare Satanas! Ave Satanas! Rege Satanas!
Praise all gods and kings of Duat!


Raven
www.joyofsatan.com
www.exposingchristianity.com


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From: DemonW <satansgirl66@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:13 AM
Subject: [Satanicgaycommunity] Questions about a Queer Demon Experience


 
I posted to the main JOS group as well but it fights here better.

I'm sorry, I tried to break this up as best I could, but it's a little long.

Okay, the other day I was meditating and I had a very in-depth but in some ways confusing experience. I was wondering if my brothers and sisters could give me some insight on this. The important background info here is that I am a lesbian(I know, I'll post this to the Satanic Gay group as well) who has been seeking lesbian lore in paganism.

Any in my meditation I found myself walking through a large field, down a smaller path and up to a HUGE white oak tree. At the base of the tree's roots was a big hole into the earth. I went through the hole into the earth and found myself in Hell. I was in an enormous cavern that was dimly lit with blue light(think of Demon energy). There were fireflies all over the play and they glowed with a blue light as well.

I walked further into the cavern(it was beautifull in an unreal sorta way) and saw a large group of woman standing around a tree(another big white oak). The woman were from all different times and cultures and they were skyclad. I could tell instantly that they were with Satan, so when they asked me to join them I agreed.

The woman held each others hands and danced around the tree. I somehow got pushed to the center, away from the women and up to the tree. I put my hands on it's trunk and could feel a huge amount of Satanic energy running through it, into me.

Suddenly I looked up and saw a Demoness standing in the branches. She was beautiful in a natural way(no makeup or anything like that). Now, please don't think I'm a perv or anything but she was scantly clad in some animal fur and vegatation. Sha was holding a spear and she had deer antlers on her head.

She jumped down in front of me and smiled. She took my hand and started to lead me away from the tree. I felt happy and safe with Her(She's a Demonness after all :)) and so I followed.

Here is where things start to confuse me.

She told me I could call Her Ellen and that She was a lesbian. She took me to the far end of the cavern to a cliff. The cliff was shrouded in mist and fog. She gestured and it cleared away leaving what looked like an entire city below me.

The city was gorgeous and next to a large ocean. It was full of temples as well as mundane things. I could see other females down there working and playing. Ellen told me that as Satanists we all bring our own identity and talents to Satanism.

She said that Hell would be a boring place if we were all 100% alike. She explained that when we go to Hell(in-between lifetimes) it's not like we are just going to one place. Hell is HUGE and will never run out of space. Because of this there are an uncountable number of different places and areas inside of Hell.

All different climates are represented there. Also people who share things in common(race, sexual orientation,culture,etc.) have there own place to store their own histories and lore. You don't stay in your one little area while you are in Hell though.

You mingle with ALL Satanists most of the time(which would explain why I saw no houses down in the city).
Ellen: "Satanist first, cultural/racial/sexual/whatever/identity later. Our shared Father knows it's important for us all to unite, and stay united. Without anything else dividing us."

However, she told me that since we all are different, we may inherit different talents and roles. She told me that there is special lore and energy wrapped up in our differences. It's not better or worse, just different. She told me that the women I had seen were ancestors of lesbian Satanists but that there were Satanic ancestors for all types of Satanists and Satanic anscestors in general.

She connected this all with shamanism. Ellen told me that any Satanist could seek advice from Satanic human spirits that were still in Hell. With this, she brought me back to my body.
----------------------------------------------------------
Here are my questions that maybe you guys could help me with:
1.I keep googling "Pagan goddess Ellen" but the only things I get is a Goddess that does not really match what Ellen was like to me. True, She seems to be an obscure goddess....
2.What do you think of this experience? I am 110% sure it was real and that everything I experienced was Satanic but I am still unsure of myself.
3. Also, since we know that Hell is NOT underground what could the trees and the hole under the tree symbolize?

Thank you for your help, my head is spinning....
666/88
 
Ellen could be short for Hellen, the Greek goddess.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "DemonW" <satansgirl66@... wrote:

I posted to the main JOS group as well but it fights here better.

I'm sorry, I tried to break this up as best I could, but it's a little long.

Okay, the other day I was meditating and I had a very in-depth but in some ways confusing experience. I was wondering if my brothers and sisters could give me some insight on this. The important background info here is that I am a lesbian(I know, I'll post this to the Satanic Gay group as well) who has been seeking lesbian lore in paganism.

Any in my meditation I found myself walking through a large field, down a smaller path and up to a HUGE white oak tree. At the base of the tree's roots was a big hole into the earth. I went through the hole into the earth and found myself in Hell. I was in an enormous cavern that was dimly lit with blue light(think of Demon energy). There were fireflies all over the play and they glowed with a blue light as well.

I walked further into the cavern(it was beautifull in an unreal sorta way) and saw a large group of woman standing around a tree(another big white oak). The woman were from all different times and cultures and they were skyclad. I could tell instantly that they were with Satan, so when they asked me to join them I agreed.

The woman held each others hands and danced around the tree. I somehow got pushed to the center, away from the women and up to the tree. I put my hands on it's trunk and could feel a huge amount of Satanic energy running through it, into me.

Suddenly I looked up and saw a Demoness standing in the branches. She was beautiful in a natural way(no makeup or anything like that). Now, please don't think I'm a perv or anything but she was scantly clad in some animal fur and vegatation. Sha was holding a spear and she had deer antlers on her head.

She jumped down in front of me and smiled. She took my hand and started to lead me away from the tree. I felt happy and safe with Her(She's a Demonness after all :)) and so I followed.

Here is where things start to confuse me.

She told me I could call Her Ellen and that She was a lesbian. She took me to the far end of the cavern to a cliff. The cliff was shrouded in mist and fog. She gestured and it cleared away leaving what looked like an entire city below me.

The city was gorgeous and next to a large ocean. It was full of temples as well as mundane things. I could see other females down there working and playing. Ellen told me that as Satanists we all bring our own identity and talents to Satanism.

She said that Hell would be a boring place if we were all 100% alike. She explained that when we go to Hell(in-between lifetimes) it's not like we are just going to one place. Hell is HUGE and will never run out of space. Because of this there are an uncountable number of different places and areas inside of Hell.

All different climates are represented there. Also people who share things in common(race, sexual orientation,culture,etc.) have there own place to store their own histories and lore. You don't stay in your one little area while you are in Hell though.

You mingle with ALL Satanists most of the time(which would explain why I saw no houses down in the city).
Ellen: "Satanist first, cultural/racial/sexual/whatever/identity later. Our shared Father knows it's important for us all to unite, and stay united. Without anything else dividing us."

However, she told me that since we all are different, we may inherit different talents and roles. She told me that there is special lore and energy wrapped up in our differences. It's not better or worse, just different. She told me that the women I had seen were ancestors of lesbian Satanists but that there were Satanic ancestors for all types of Satanists and Satanic anscestors in general.

She connected this all with shamanism. Ellen told me that any Satanist could seek advice from Satanic human spirits that were still in Hell. With this, she brought me back to my body.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here are my questions that maybe you guys could help me with:
1.I keep googling "Pagan goddess Ellen" but the only things I get is a Goddess that does not really match what Ellen was like to me. True, She seems to be an obscure goddess....

2.What do you think of this experience? I am 110% sure it was real and that everything I experienced was Satanic but I am still unsure of myself.

3. Also, since we know that Hell is NOT underground what could the trees and the hole under the tree symbolize?

Thank you for your help, my head is spinning....
666/88
 
She [/IMG]</var> it on JOS.
  Sincerely,

High Priestess Atheron of the Joy of Satan Ministries
www.JoyOfSatan.com
wwww.exposingchristianity.com

HAIL SATAN!
HAIL ALL THE GODS OF DUAT!
HAIL ASTAROTH!
From: Spencer W <spencer886661@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:57 PM
Subject: [Satanicgaycommunity] Re: Questions about a Queer Demon Experience

  Ellen could be short for Hellen, the Greek goddess.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "DemonW" <satansgirl66@... wrote:

I posted to the main JOS group as well but it fights here better.

I'm sorry, I tried to break this up as best I could, but it's a little long.

Okay, the other day I was meditating and I had a very in-depth but in some ways confusing experience. I was wondering if my brothers and sisters could give me some insight on this. The important background info here is that I am a lesbian(I know, I'll post this to the Satanic Gay group as well) who has been seeking lesbian lore in paganism.

Any in my meditation I found myself walking through a large field, down a smaller path and up to a HUGE white oak tree. At the base of the tree's roots was a big hole into the earth. I went through the hole into the earth and found myself in Hell. I was in an enormous cavern that was dimly lit with blue light(think of Demon energy). There were fireflies all over the play and they glowed with a blue light as well.

I walked further into the cavern(it was beautifull in an unreal sorta way) and saw a large group of woman standing around a tree(another big white oak). The woman were from all different times and cultures and they were skyclad. I could tell instantly that they were with Satan, so when they asked me to join them I agreed.

The woman held each others hands and danced around the tree. I somehow got pushed to the center, away from the women and up to the tree. I put my hands on it's trunk and could feel a huge amount of Satanic energy running through it, into me.

Suddenly I looked up and saw a Demoness standing in the branches. She was beautiful in a natural way(no makeup or anything like that). Now, please don't think I'm a perv or anything but she was scantly clad in some animal fur and vegatation. Sha was holding a spear and she had deer antlers on her head.

She jumped down in front of me and smiled. She took my hand and started to lead me away from the tree. I felt happy and safe with Her(She's a Demonness after all :)) and so I followed.

Here is where things start to confuse me.

She told me I could call Her Ellen and that She was a lesbian. She took me to the far end of the cavern to a cliff. The cliff was shrouded in mist and fog. She gestured and it cleared away leaving what looked like an entire city below me.

The city was gorgeous and next to a large ocean. It was full of temples as well as mundane things. I could see other females down there working and playing. Ellen told me that as Satanists we all bring our own identity and talents to Satanism.

She said that Hell would be a boring place if we were all 100% alike. She explained that when we go to Hell(in-between lifetimes) it's not like we are just going to one place. Hell is HUGE and will never run out of space. Because of this there are an uncountable number of different places and areas inside of Hell.

All different climates are represented there. Also people who share things in common(race, sexual orientation,culture,etc.) have there own place to store their own histories and lore. You don't stay in your one little area while you are in Hell though.

You mingle with ALL Satanists most of the time(which would explain why I saw no houses down in the city).
Ellen: "Satanist first, cultural/racial/sexual/whatever/identity later. Our shared Father knows it's important for us all to unite, and stay united. Without anything else dividing us."

However, she told me that since we all are different, we may inherit different talents and roles. She told me that there is special lore and energy wrapped up in our differences. It's not better or worse, just different. She told me that the women I had seen were ancestors of lesbian Satanists but that there were Satanic ancestors for all types of Satanists and Satanic anscestors in general.

She connected this all with shamanism. Ellen told me that any Satanist could seek advice from Satanic human spirits that were still in Hell. With this, she brought me back to my body.
----------------------------------------------------------
Here are my questions that maybe you guys could help me with:
1.I keep googling "Pagan goddess Ellen" but the only things I get is a Goddess that does not really match what Ellen was like to me. True, She seems to be an obscure goddess....

2.What do you think of this experience? I am 110% sure it was real and that everything I experienced was Satanic but I am still unsure of myself.

3. Also, since we know that Hell is NOT underground what could the trees and the hole under the tree symbolize?

Thank you for your help, my head is spinning....
666/88

 
Hello Satansgirl,
I am a lesbian as well, 44 with 4 kids.

I am also a witch, and Spiritual Satanist.

I had a vision in the astral, about 12 yrs ago of a large, white oak but this one had a big smiling face, like you might see in a McDonald's restaurant.

There were also about 8 dwarfs around the tree, all white,....all smiling.

It was the earth elementals saying hello to me.

It is very celtic, and old Pagan.
I consider them Satanic beings, as they really hold no special allegiance.
]They just seem to be more loyal to their cause: the element earth.

I am always interested in meeting other lesbian women.
I am on Facebook,

http://www.facebook.com/Darrkladyschild

AVE SATAN
Check out my personal sites:



--- On Mon, 7/25/11, DemonW <satansgirl66@... wrote:

From: DemonW <satansgirl66@...
Subject: [Satanicgaycommunity] Re: Questions about a Queer Demon Experience
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 6:49 AM
Thanks your post has been really
helpful. A long time ago(before I dedicated) I had a dream
about a big white oak tree. In my dream somthing was written
on the tree. Whatever it was it was supposed to be very
important for me to know but I woke up before I got a chance
to go to the tree.

Maybe that ties in?
666/88

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url],
"Ophiuchus" <ashitakeakizuki@... wrote:

Yes, it is possible. But in your case, I believe she's
a goddess that's close to you but not exactly your GD. The
only way you can be sure is talking to her again.

The celts believed that oak trees could be gateways to
other worlds. The hole on the ground could very well be the
gateway itself. Of course it could have been any other
thing, but this specific imagery can mean you have celtic
heritage, or that you've been a celt in another life and
this goddess was there with you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url],
"DemonW" <satansgirl66@ wrote:

Thank you for your reply. I posted this to the
main group as well since I think it's also a Satanic
question/experience in general as well as being gay-related.
However, I can't find it there.

Anyway, I am very thankful for the advice and I
will do a ritual and try to get to know Ellen. All I can
find on the web about Her is Kike-infested neo-pagan crap.

The thing is though, I alreay have a GD named
Ipos(the egpytian god). Is it possible to have more than
one? Like a male and a female?
666/88

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url],
Lilith Crowley <lilylavycrowley@ wrote:

The true Hell is a place where the
deceased are taken care of and is where some gods and
goddesses reside.
But other than hell, there are many other
places in the astral. I believe that before you were in
hell, you were in another place in the astral. The place you
were in first may have been one of the "entrances" to hell.
It's possible but I am unsure so someone correct me if I'm
wrong.
Then you went down into the hole and found
yourself in a cavern filled with blue energy. Hell has been
described as such before.
I also believe that the tree you touched is
the "Tree of Life". The Tree of Life represents the
chakra's, their pathways, and the human soul. Which is only
more proof that you were in hell. Also, many poems have been
written of the Tree of Life and one even spoke of sitting
with Father Satan under the tree. Which also makes me think
that this tree must reside in hell. Which is, once again,
furthering the proof that you were there.
As for Ellen, I believe she may, in fact, be
your guardian demon. She is a lesbian like you. She
identified specifically with you. And many other things. But
this is only what I believe.
I have not found the name "Ellen" anywhere
on the JOS list of demons. So she could be one the JOS
clergy have not met yet. After all, there are SEVERAL
demons.

I wouldn't suggest looking for her on google
because any information you may find could actually be kike
infested lies. When seeking information on a demon, it is
best to either go directly to the demon or ask Satan.
So if you would like some more information
on the demoness Ellen, what I would suggest doing is a
ritual to Father Satan and ask him if it would be alright to
contact Ellen. If you get a positive feeling or another sign
telling you its alright, than go on ahead. Than, if he does
not show you a sigil of some kind, think the name Ellen in
your mind several times and while thinking her name, go into
a trance and try to astral project. This may help you find
her. THan when you DO find her, you can ask her more about
herself.
I think this experience was very significant
and had several purposes. One of them could have been
finding your guardian demon, which I believe Ellen to be.
But as I said, I am unsure. 
Also, I believe this experience was to help
you know more about Hell and how Lesbians reside there
within.
But one thing that I am certain of is that
you DID visit hell.

Sincerely,
Lilith Crowley

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Al Jilwah; Father Satan's Words
"Do not mention my name nor my attributes,
lest ye regret it; for ye do not know what those who are
without may do."


Hail Father Satan! Salutare Satanas! Ave
Satanas! Rege Satanas!
Praise all gods and kings of Duat!


Raven
www.joyofsatan.com
www.exposingchristianity.com


________________________________
From: DemonW <satansgirl66@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:13 AM
Subject: [Satanicgaycommunity] Questions
about a Queer Demon Experience


 
I posted to the main JOS group as well but
it fights here better.

I'm sorry, I tried to break this up as best
I could, but it's a little long.

Okay, the other day I was meditating and I
had a very in-depth but in some ways confusing experience. I
was wondering if my brothers and sisters could give me some
insight on this. The important background info here is that
I am a lesbian(I know, I'll post this to the Satanic Gay
group as well) who has been seeking lesbian lore in
paganism.

Any in my meditation I found myself walking
through a large field, down a smaller path and up to a HUGE
white oak tree. At the base of the tree's roots was a big
hole into the earth. I went through the hole into the earth
and found myself in Hell. I was in an enormous cavern that
was dimly lit with blue light(think of Demon energy). There
were fireflies all over the play and they glowed with a blue
light as well.

I walked further into the cavern(it was
beautifull in an unreal sorta way) and saw a large group of
woman standing around a tree(another big white oak). The
woman were from all different times and cultures and they
were skyclad. I could tell instantly that they were with
Satan, so when they asked me to join them I agreed.

The woman held each others hands and danced
around the tree. I somehow got pushed to the center, away
from the women and up to the tree. I put my hands on it's
trunk and could feel a huge amount of Satanic energy running
through it, into me.

Suddenly I looked up and saw a Demoness
standing in the branches. She was beautiful in a natural
way(no makeup or anything like that). Now, please don't
think I'm a perv or anything but she was scantly clad in
some animal fur and vegatation. Sha was holding a spear and
she had deer antlers on her head.

She jumped down in front of me and smiled.
She took my hand and started to lead me away from the tree.
I felt happy and safe with Her(She's a Demonness after all
:)) and so I followed.

Here is where things start to confuse me.

She told me I could call Her Ellen and that
She was a lesbian. She took me to the far end of the cavern
to a cliff. The cliff was shrouded in mist and fog. She
gestured and it cleared away leaving what looked like an
entire city below me.

The city was gorgeous and next to a large
ocean. It was full of temples as well as mundane things. I
could see other females down there working and playing.
Ellen told me that as Satanists we all bring our own
identity and talents to Satanism.

She said that Hell would be a boring place
if we were all 100% alike. She explained that when we go to
Hell(in-between lifetimes) it's not like we are just going
to one place. Hell is HUGE and will never run out of space.
Because of this there are an uncountable number of different
places and areas inside of Hell.

All different climates are represented
there. Also people who share things in common(race, sexual
orientation,culture,etc.) have there own place to store
their own histories and lore. You don't stay in your one
little area while you are in Hell though.

You mingle with ALL Satanists most of the
time(which would explain why I saw no houses down in the
city).
Ellen: "Satanist first,
cultural/racial/sexual/whatever/identity later. Our shared
Father knows it's important for us all to unite, and stay
united. Without anything else dividing us."

However, she told me that since we all are
different, we may inherit different talents and roles. She
told me that there is special lore and energy wrapped up in
our differences. It's not better or worse, just different.
She told me that the women I had seen were ancestors of
lesbian Satanists but that there were Satanic ancestors for
all types of Satanists and Satanic anscestors in general.

She connected this all with shamanism. Ellen
told me that any Satanist could seek advice from Satanic
human spirits that were still in Hell. With this, she
brought me back to my body.

----------------------------------------------------------
Here are my questions that maybe you guys
could help me with:
1.I keep googling "Pagan goddess Ellen" but
the only things I get is a Goddess that does not really
match what Ellen was like to me. True, She seems to be an
obscure goddess....
2.What do you think of this
experience?  I am 110% sure it was real and that
everything I experienced was Satanic but I am still unsure
of myself.
3. Also, since we know that Hell is NOT
underground what could the trees and the hole under the tree
symbolize?

Thank you for your help, my head is
spinning....
666/88







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