Oroboros
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I am new here please take it into consideration, thank you
I know this is simple, but im ex-muslim, so its not simple for me since it gets shuffled with old beliefs, especially that relation between the slave and Allah, is way different from relationships of initiate with the Gods.. its completly different relation
here are my questions, and may the Gods bless you for answering ( can we say that ?)
I am not talking about summoning in all following questions
1.When praying to "Gods" can i ask Gods generally? Or should i pray to a specific God related to what i want help in? Or Zeus ?Or my GD ? Or i can do all, I just pick whatever way i feel like doing? And should i keep small stuff to lesser ranking Demons and Pray to Zeus only when its really serious?
2.the Gods hear us all the time, so intention is what matters , so its indifferent what i feel during prayer, what matters is that i ask for guidance and help right?
3.to be respectful during prayer what pattern should be used ? Using "please" or " respectfully" or how exactly? Sometimes i feel i end up commanding the Gods then i immediatly stop and change( i dont know from where i got that program), and when i try to be more respectful and i end up being slave like, im still not able to be in middle yet
4.from what i understood all prayers are accepted right? Gods do not reject prayers ? And based on HPHC post its okay to pray a lot, so i can like do 100 prayers a day and dont worry about some being dissmissed because i asked too much right? Since sometimes i feel im asking more than what i am giving back..
5.the lenght of prayer doesnt matter, its okay to make it short and straight to the point right?
6. Can i get creative with prayers , for example before eating pray for food to be blessed ( quick 1 line prayer) and when for example riding a horse , making quick prayer before, or before driving, or when buying new stuff etc, can i do stuff like that ? ( I feel so powerful knowing prayers here are real not like in islam , allah just dont care i never experienced prayers being real)
7.based on HPHC post , through summoning the Gods may do help the initiate, but with simple prayer one receives guidance, can one who is not yet advanced to summon, get help instead of just guidance only from normal praying ?
8.there is a God that when i focus on i feel his chakra, and i feel connected to him, is he the best to pray to in my case? I mean i try to connect, then when i feel his chakra and feel different ( usually my eyes also get sleepy sometimes shivers too) then i pray? Or it doesnt matter ? Since they hear us anyway?
9.i can pray either for general outcome ( money/ success/ health/ wisdom/discipline etc..) or for specific problem right?
10.i created a thoughtform before becoming zevist, i needed an entity before and i created one( it has nothing to do with ennemy religions, i just created an imaginary friend, i know its weak and nothing to compare to Gods) i still thank him from time to time, he is feeling more and more real but he is more like a friend and i usually call him before eating for him to bless it
i told you that since all this has been powered by my mind so its belief driven, but the Gods are real, in a sense that they exist on their own, not someone is creating them with his mind, which means, we can ask for prayer and forget about it without putting belief on being answered right ? It can be a prayer without any emotion, like asking a human who hears you , i know adding belief makes it more powerful, but i want to know if asking without pushing this with any emotion / belief work?
11. Finally i really want to know how powerful the Gods can be in their help, i knew through some threads , that they can guide with giving you thoughts or urges , for example one who prays to stop being addicted to alcohol, will pray, then start having urge not to drink, and its on him to act on that and collaborate instead of fight it , right? If someone can expand on the power of Gods or link a thread or a page in temple of zeus it will help so much
12. If we ask a lot compared to ask little , i mean 3 prayers verses 20 a day, will the 3 be answred in a more potent way, compared to 20 since they are many? Or all prayers are treated seriously with same potency doesnt matter if 1 or 100? Also is it true that if i advance this too is considered as "giving something back" to the Gods ( not as payment of course.. i mean as a way to say thank you) , and if i focus on a God and radiate love while feeling him, does this count as giving back?
What about burning frankincense ? Liting candles? I really didnt find much about giving back to Gods besides helping the forum , i will do that of course but i wish there are many many ways, so i can do many stuff, since im beginner i cant help forum that much
13. How to know when i did a mistake in relation to the Gods ? And how to fix that? One time i felt my Guardian Demon told me a thing using a bad word this made me laugh, and in same time i am thinking maybe it was my mind not my GD and if this is the case it will be like lack of respect attributing it to my GD, Or maybe my mind distorded the message, also when i out of ignorance or i just forget or a program kicks in and i boss the Gods ( i usually notice instantly when i do it) how can i delete what just happened ?
I know they are never offended in relation to me since in the grand scheme of things im feeling so happy that i am back to my ancient religion, i feel they are my friends ( i dont know if i can say that) its not even about power , advancement and help from the Gods is a Bonus in my case, im just happy being with them since i feel i know them so well and they have traits that i highly value and that are rare in humans, and since they know everything about us ,they know me well and know that, which im sure they take into consideration when they see everyone is seeking power while im more about being close to them.
I am not saying seeking power is bad, advancement is a good thing, i myself through this post started seeking it more and more, i had a a weird way of thinking, i didnt want to ask them for anything , i wanted to advanced using what i know and my efforts only, out of pride and respect i didnt want to ask them, even in real life i hate asking for help, i prefer to be the one providing always , additionally, i feel they are my friends , and asking them for help makes me feel like i am the one who is the weakest in the group i dont like that , but apparently i should get rid of this and start seeking help from the Gods and i started doing it this post being proof.
Thank you for your answers

I know this is simple, but im ex-muslim, so its not simple for me since it gets shuffled with old beliefs, especially that relation between the slave and Allah, is way different from relationships of initiate with the Gods.. its completly different relation
here are my questions, and may the Gods bless you for answering ( can we say that ?)
I am not talking about summoning in all following questions
1.When praying to "Gods" can i ask Gods generally? Or should i pray to a specific God related to what i want help in? Or Zeus ?Or my GD ? Or i can do all, I just pick whatever way i feel like doing? And should i keep small stuff to lesser ranking Demons and Pray to Zeus only when its really serious?
2.the Gods hear us all the time, so intention is what matters , so its indifferent what i feel during prayer, what matters is that i ask for guidance and help right?
3.to be respectful during prayer what pattern should be used ? Using "please" or " respectfully" or how exactly? Sometimes i feel i end up commanding the Gods then i immediatly stop and change( i dont know from where i got that program), and when i try to be more respectful and i end up being slave like, im still not able to be in middle yet
4.from what i understood all prayers are accepted right? Gods do not reject prayers ? And based on HPHC post its okay to pray a lot, so i can like do 100 prayers a day and dont worry about some being dissmissed because i asked too much right? Since sometimes i feel im asking more than what i am giving back..
5.the lenght of prayer doesnt matter, its okay to make it short and straight to the point right?
6. Can i get creative with prayers , for example before eating pray for food to be blessed ( quick 1 line prayer) and when for example riding a horse , making quick prayer before, or before driving, or when buying new stuff etc, can i do stuff like that ? ( I feel so powerful knowing prayers here are real not like in islam , allah just dont care i never experienced prayers being real)
7.based on HPHC post , through summoning the Gods may do help the initiate, but with simple prayer one receives guidance, can one who is not yet advanced to summon, get help instead of just guidance only from normal praying ?
8.there is a God that when i focus on i feel his chakra, and i feel connected to him, is he the best to pray to in my case? I mean i try to connect, then when i feel his chakra and feel different ( usually my eyes also get sleepy sometimes shivers too) then i pray? Or it doesnt matter ? Since they hear us anyway?
9.i can pray either for general outcome ( money/ success/ health/ wisdom/discipline etc..) or for specific problem right?
10.i created a thoughtform before becoming zevist, i needed an entity before and i created one( it has nothing to do with ennemy religions, i just created an imaginary friend, i know its weak and nothing to compare to Gods) i still thank him from time to time, he is feeling more and more real but he is more like a friend and i usually call him before eating for him to bless it
i told you that since all this has been powered by my mind so its belief driven, but the Gods are real, in a sense that they exist on their own, not someone is creating them with his mind, which means, we can ask for prayer and forget about it without putting belief on being answered right ? It can be a prayer without any emotion, like asking a human who hears you , i know adding belief makes it more powerful, but i want to know if asking without pushing this with any emotion / belief work?
11. Finally i really want to know how powerful the Gods can be in their help, i knew through some threads , that they can guide with giving you thoughts or urges , for example one who prays to stop being addicted to alcohol, will pray, then start having urge not to drink, and its on him to act on that and collaborate instead of fight it , right? If someone can expand on the power of Gods or link a thread or a page in temple of zeus it will help so much
12. If we ask a lot compared to ask little , i mean 3 prayers verses 20 a day, will the 3 be answred in a more potent way, compared to 20 since they are many? Or all prayers are treated seriously with same potency doesnt matter if 1 or 100? Also is it true that if i advance this too is considered as "giving something back" to the Gods ( not as payment of course.. i mean as a way to say thank you) , and if i focus on a God and radiate love while feeling him, does this count as giving back?
What about burning frankincense ? Liting candles? I really didnt find much about giving back to Gods besides helping the forum , i will do that of course but i wish there are many many ways, so i can do many stuff, since im beginner i cant help forum that much
13. How to know when i did a mistake in relation to the Gods ? And how to fix that? One time i felt my Guardian Demon told me a thing using a bad word this made me laugh, and in same time i am thinking maybe it was my mind not my GD and if this is the case it will be like lack of respect attributing it to my GD, Or maybe my mind distorded the message, also when i out of ignorance or i just forget or a program kicks in and i boss the Gods ( i usually notice instantly when i do it) how can i delete what just happened ?
I know they are never offended in relation to me since in the grand scheme of things im feeling so happy that i am back to my ancient religion, i feel they are my friends ( i dont know if i can say that) its not even about power , advancement and help from the Gods is a Bonus in my case, im just happy being with them since i feel i know them so well and they have traits that i highly value and that are rare in humans, and since they know everything about us ,they know me well and know that, which im sure they take into consideration when they see everyone is seeking power while im more about being close to them.
I am not saying seeking power is bad, advancement is a good thing, i myself through this post started seeking it more and more, i had a a weird way of thinking, i didnt want to ask them for anything , i wanted to advanced using what i know and my efforts only, out of pride and respect i didnt want to ask them, even in real life i hate asking for help, i prefer to be the one providing always , additionally, i feel they are my friends , and asking them for help makes me feel like i am the one who is the weakest in the group i dont like that , but apparently i should get rid of this and start seeking help from the Gods and i started doing it this post being proof.
Thank you for your answers
