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Does anybody know how to strengthen pluto in ones chart?
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 1:30 AM EDT gonzalezedlyn wrote:
Does anybody know how to strengthen pluto in ones chart?
Does anybody know how to strengthen pluto in ones chart?
[/TD]--- On Sun, 10/7/12, gonzalezedlyn <gonzalezedlyn@... wrote:
From: gonzalezedlyn <gonzalezedlyn@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Pluto
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, October 7, 2012, 12:30 AM
Does anybody know how to strengthen pluto in ones chart?
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "gonzalezedlyn" <gonzalezedlyn@... wrote:
Does anybody know how to strengthen pluto in ones chart?
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Draco Majinn" <xxrygelxx@... wrote:
You do not need a mantra to work with a planets energy, you can simply meditate on the planet or it's symbol and once you feel it's energy draw it into yourself.
But please listen to what I have to say next as it's important, I have to warn you of some things.
I have worked with Pluto's energy extensively for several years now. It's a perosnal planet in my chart and it's energy is a lot stronger than any other planet in our solar system, second only to the Sun and other Stars. Pluto can also be an extremely dangerous planet for those who don't know what they're doing and it's energy is very very difficult to handle.
Unless you are exceptionally powerful and know your own mind very well, this planet's energy will control you, instead of the other way around.
This is because Pluto works with your unconscious, over which you have no control and where your ego has no say whatsoever. It's energy will bring up buried emotions and these can be things you don't even know you have and can manifest as a sudden urge to be violent, with hate and rage for example. Or it can attract situations that bring up these emotions into your life and this can be more than just a little upsetting, this can result in a lot of destructiveness.
This is HEALTHY but you have to remain aware of what's going on and be in control of yourself, make sure you are at the level where you can control your thoughts and feelings at will.
Despite what the RHP tells you about the self beyond the conscious ego, it's not all "love and light". There are no concepts or morality at this level and because it's usually the destructive and "immoral" things which we are forced to block, it's usually these which come out with Pluto, which makes Pluto same more destructive than what it really is.
It makes no difference if you think child molestation is evil, or wanting to collect teddy bears is unmanly and makes you a wussie, or not wanting to work makes you a lazy bum, if any urges like that are in your unconscious Pluto will bring them out for better or worse.
And nobodies opinion on these things matter to your unconscious mind, not even your own. I'm not saying it is any of those things, just making an example.
~--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "gonzalezedlyn" <gonzalezedlyn@ wrote:
Does anybody know how to strengthen pluto in ones chart?
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:24 AM EDT High Priestess Maxine Dietrich wrote:
I am warning everyone here...there are some things one is best not to experiment with. Pluto has immense power. Even the element 'plutonium' which is used in nuclear explosives sums up this planet's energies and influences accurately.
I have found pluto all by itself to be a neutral planet, especialy in predictions, its influence conforming to the planet it is come into contact with more than anything, but it can operate for positive events and also malefic events. In any event, its influence is major transforming changes.
Pluto's transits include births, deaths, marriages/permanent relationships, obsessive and very painful love, obsessions, permanent disabling accidents, issues of power, major domestic changes of all kinds...
When pluto hits something it is permanent. Pluto in the first house of a solar return signifies a 'first in the life.' I had this when I had my first baby as a teenager. This was very transforming in becoming a new mother and was permanent.
Pluto is power. It can also be brutal. Pluto in the seventh [marriage/partnership] house can bring an obsessive, jealous, controlling spouse/partner who is extremey abusive.
Pluto in the fouth [mother/home and family] often indicates an overly controlling and dominating mother. Same applies to pluto/moon aspects [moon rules the mother], and pluto/sun [sun rules the father]. With the pluto here, the impressions run very deep regarding the parent. I knew of a case where a man grew up without a father and it scarred him deeply. He had a tight pluto/sun square in his chart.
People who have pluto/venus aspects, even with the trine, their feelings run deep. They can become obsessive in love relationships. They are jealous by nature and controlling. No amount of love is enough love. Like...'if we could get any closer, you would be in back of me.' Definitely not for the lighter air signs, as pluto/venus wants total possession of their loved one.
Pluto/mercury is a good combination to have as this aspect, especially with the conjunction, square and opposition, and to a lesser extent the trine; this one makes a natural mage as people who have this have the gift to focus and concentrate their minds to an almost piercing level, depending on how close the aspect it. The tighter the orb, the more pronouced the influence. These people alsoare snoops by nature.
Pluto/mars- the do or die aspect. These people will use force or whatever means is necessary to achieve their ends and can be deadly enemies. They are fearless and cut-throats. Rarely neutral about anything. Either love it or hate it.
Pluto in the houses is where you have your obsession, or in some cases, power issues. Pluto in the third house- an obsession with knowledge and one who keeps repeating one's self and communicates intensely. Pluto in the eleventh will often bring powerful friends. Pluto in the twelfth can indicate intense loneliness unless this energy is sublimated through meditation, then it becomes power.
Pluto is nothing to experiment with. This planet, thiough not a malefic per say, goes beyond saturn when it comes to its power. Natural ruler of the eighth house, the house of transformation and death.
High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "gonzalezedlyn" <gonzalezedlyn@... wrote:
Does anybody know how to strengthen pluto in ones chart?
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@... wrote:
I am warning everyone here...there are some things one is best not to experiment with. Pluto has immense power. Even the element 'plutonium' which is used in nuclear explosives sums up this planet's energies and influences accurately.
I have found pluto all by itself to be a neutral planet, especialy in predictions, its influence conforming to the planet it is come into contact with more than anything, but it can operate for positive events and also malefic events. In any event, its influence is major transforming changes.
Pluto's transits include births, deaths, marriages/permanent relationships, obsessive and very painful love, obsessions, permanent disabling accidents, issues of power, major domestic changes of all kinds...
When pluto hits something it is permanent. Pluto in the first house of a solar return signifies a 'first in the life.' I had this when I had my first baby as a teenager. This was very transforming in becoming a new mother and was permanent.
Pluto is power. It can also be brutal. Pluto in the seventh [marriage/partnership] house can bring an obsessive, jealous, controlling spouse/partner who is extremey abusive.
Pluto in the fouth [mother/home and family] often indicates an overly controlling and dominating mother. Same applies to pluto/moon aspects [moon rules the mother], and pluto/sun [sun rules the father]. With the pluto here, the impressions run very deep regarding the parent. I knew of a case where a man grew up without a father and it scarred him deeply. He had a tight pluto/sun square in his chart.
People who have pluto/venus aspects, even with the trine, their feelings run deep. They can become obsessive in love relationships. They are jealous by nature and controlling. No amount of love is enough love. Like...'if we could get any closer, you would be in back of me.' Definitely not for the lighter air signs, as pluto/venus wants total possession of their loved one.
Pluto/mercury is a good combination to have as this aspect, especially with the conjunction, square and opposition, and to a lesser extent the trine; this one makes a natural mage as people who have this have the gift to focus and concentrate their minds to an almost piercing level, depending on how close the aspect it. The tighter the orb, the more pronouced the influence. These people alsoare snoops by nature.
Pluto/mars- the do or die aspect. These people will use force or whatever means is necessary to achieve their ends and can be deadly enemies. They are fearless and cut-throats. Rarely neutral about anything. Either love it or hate it.
Pluto in the houses is where you have your obsession, or in some cases, power issues. Pluto in the third house- an obsession with knowledge and one who keeps repeating one's self and communicates intensely. Pluto in the eleventh will often bring powerful friends. Pluto in the twelfth can indicate intense loneliness unless this energy is sublimated through meditation, then it becomes power.
Pluto is nothing to experiment with. This planet, thiough not a malefic per say, goes beyond saturn when it comes to its power. Natural ruler of the eighth house, the house of transformation and death.
High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "gonzalezedlyn" <gonzalezedlyn@ wrote:
Does anybody know how to strengthen pluto in ones chart?
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@... wrote:
I am warning everyone here...there are some things one is best not to experiment with. Pluto has immense power. Even the element 'plutonium' which is used in nuclear explosives sums up this planet's energies and influences accurately.
I have found pluto all by itself to be a neutral planet, especialy in predictions, its influence conforming to the planet it is come into contact with more than anything, but it can operate for positive events and also malefic events. In any event, its influence is major transforming changes.
Pluto's transits include births, deaths, marriages/permanent relationships, obsessive and very painful love, obsessions, permanent disabling accidents, issues of power, major domestic changes of all kinds...
When pluto hits something it is permanent. Pluto in the first house of a solar return signifies a 'first in the life.' I had this when I had my first baby as a teenager. This was very transforming in becoming a new mother and was permanent.
Pluto is power. It can also be brutal. Pluto in the seventh [marriage/partnership] house can bring an obsessive, jealous, controlling spouse/partner who is extremey abusive.
Pluto in the fouth [mother/home and family] often indicates an overly controlling and dominating mother. Same applies to pluto/moon aspects [moon rules the mother], and pluto/sun [sun rules the father]. With the pluto here, the impressions run very deep regarding the parent. I knew of a case where a man grew up without a father and it scarred him deeply. He had a tight pluto/sun square in his chart.
People who have pluto/venus aspects, even with the trine, their feelings run deep. They can become obsessive in love relationships. They are jealous by nature and controlling. No amount of love is enough love. Like...'if we could get any closer, you would be in back of me.' Definitely not for the lighter air signs, as pluto/venus wants total possession of their loved one.
Pluto/mercury is a good combination to have as this aspect, especially with the conjunction, square and opposition, and to a lesser extent the trine; this one makes a natural mage as people who have this have the gift to focus and concentrate their minds to an almost piercing level, depending on how close the aspect it. The tighter the orb, the more pronouced the influence. These people alsoare snoops by nature.
Pluto/mars- the do or die aspect. These people will use force or whatever means is necessary to achieve their ends and can be deadly enemies. They are fearless and cut-throats. Rarely neutral about anything. Either love it or hate it.
Pluto in the houses is where you have your obsession, or in some cases, power issues. Pluto in the third house- an obsession with knowledge and one who keeps repeating one's self and communicates intensely. Pluto in the eleventh will often bring powerful friends. Pluto in the twelfth can indicate intense loneliness unless this energy is sublimated through meditation, then it becomes power.
Pluto is nothing to experiment with. This planet, thiough not a malefic per say, goes beyond saturn when it comes to its power. Natural ruler of the eighth house, the house of transformation and death.
High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "gonzalezedlyn" <gonzalezedlyn@ wrote:
Does anybody know how to strengthen pluto in ones chart?
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Draco Majinn" <xxrygelxx@... wrote:
You do not need a mantra to work with a planets energy, you can simply meditate on the planet or it's symbol and once you feel it's energy draw it into yourself.
But please listen to what I have to say next as it's important, I have to warn you of some things.
I have worked with Pluto's energy extensively for several years now. It's a perosnal planet in my chart and it's energy is a lot stronger than any other planet in our solar system, second only to the Sun and other Stars. Pluto can also be an extremely dangerous planet for those who don't know what they're doing and it's energy is very very difficult to handle.
Unless you are exceptionally powerful and know your own mind very well, this planet's energy will control you, instead of the other way around.
This is because Pluto works with your unconscious, over which you have no control and where your ego has no say whatsoever. It's energy will bring up buried emotions and these can be things you don't even know you have and can manifest as a sudden urge to be violent, with hate and rage for example. Or it can attract situations that bring up these emotions into your life and this can be more than just a little upsetting, this can result in a lot of destructiveness.
This is HEALTHY but you have to remain aware of what's going on and be in control of yourself, make sure you are at the level where you can control your thoughts and feelings at will.
Despite what the RHP tells you about the self beyond the conscious ego, it's not all "love and light". There are no concepts or morality at this level and because it's usually the destructive and "immoral" things which we are forced to block, it's usually these which come out with Pluto, which makes Pluto same more destructive than what it really is.
It makes no difference if you think child molestation is evil, or wanting to collect teddy bears is unmanly and makes you a wussie, or not wanting to work makes you a lazy bum, if any urges like that are in your unconscious Pluto will bring them out for better or worse.
And nobodies opinion on these things matter to your unconscious mind, not even your own. I'm not saying it is any of those things, just making an example.
~--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "gonzalezedlyn" <gonzalezedlyn@ wrote:
Does anybody know how to strengthen pluto in ones chart?
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "gonzalezedlyn" <gonzalezedlyn@... wrote:
Okay well then i definitely dont wanna fuck with plutos energy right now. Im already kinda nuts as it is, sometimes. Pluto is my chart ruler and it exactly conjuncts my ascendent, scorpio. I dont think im at the level i need to be yet to harness plutos energy. Im afraid i cant control it. I can barely control my regular rage. And i would also like to hear ur experiences with pluto Draco.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Draco Majinn" <xxrygelxx@ wrote:
You do not need a mantra to work with a planets energy, you can simply meditate on the planet or it's symbol and once you feel it's energy draw it into yourself.
But please listen to what I have to say next as it's important, I have to warn you of some things.
I have worked with Pluto's energy extensively for several years now. It's a perosnal planet in my chart and it's energy is a lot stronger than any other planet in our solar system, second only to the Sun and other Stars. Pluto can also be an extremely dangerous planet for those who don't know what they're doing and it's energy is very very difficult to handle.
Unless you are exceptionally powerful and know your own mind very well, this planet's energy will control you, instead of the other way around.
This is because Pluto works with your unconscious, over which you have no control and where your ego has no say whatsoever. It's energy will bring up buried emotions and these can be things you don't even know you have and can manifest as a sudden urge to be violent, with hate and rage for example. Or it can attract situations that bring up these emotions into your life and this can be more than just a little upsetting, this can result in a lot of destructiveness.
This is HEALTHY but you have to remain aware of what's going on and be in control of yourself, make sure you are at the level where you can control your thoughts and feelings at will.
Despite what the RHP tells you about the self beyond the conscious ego, it's not all "love and light". There are no concepts or morality at this level and because it's usually the destructive and "immoral" things which we are forced to block, it's usually these which come out with Pluto, which makes Pluto same more destructive than what it really is.
It makes no difference if you think child molestation is evil, or wanting to collect teddy bears is unmanly and makes you a wussie, or not wanting to work makes you a lazy bum, if any urges like that are in your unconscious Pluto will bring them out for better or worse.
And nobodies opinion on these things matter to your unconscious mind, not even your own. I'm not saying it is any of those things, just making an example.
~--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "gonzalezedlyn" <gonzalezedlyn@ wrote:
Does anybody know how to strengthen pluto in ones chart?
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Raven Lythrum <lilylavycrowley@... wrote:
I'm honestly very wary right now because HP Maxine said in her post that the energy of Pluto is very permanent and is stronger than that of saturn and is not to be messed with.
Well, my sun is in scorpio, my mercury and venus are in scorpio, my jupiter is in scorpio, and my pluto is in scorpio. And of course, scorpio is ruled by the planet pluto. So since Pluto rules scorpio (or is pluto ruled by scorpio???), that means all these other planets are coming into contact with a very permanent powerful pluto.
Is this something to be concerned about for those of us that have stelliums in scorpio?
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Knowledge is power.
"I am ever present to help all who trust in me and call upon me in time of need."~Father Satan; The Al-jilwah
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi!* Let the name of Satan be exaulted!*
Hail Belial!* Heil Hitler!* Sieg Heil!* Ave Satanas!* Rege Satanas!* Heil, mein fuhrer!* Hail Satan!*
www.joyofsatan.org
www.exposingchristianity.com
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Raven Lythrum <lilylavycrowley@... wrote:
I'm honestly very wary right now because HP Maxine said in her post that the energy of Pluto is very permanent and is stronger than that of saturn and is not to be messed with.
Well, my sun is in scorpio, my mercury and venus are in scorpio, my jupiter is in scorpio, and my pluto is in scorpio. And of course, scorpio is ruled by the planet pluto. So since Pluto rules scorpio (or is pluto ruled by scorpio???), that means all these other planets are coming into contact with a very permanent powerful pluto.
Is this something to be concerned about for those of us that have stelliums in scorpio?
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Knowledge is power.
"I am ever present to help all who trust in me and call upon me in time of need."~Father Satan; The Al-jilwah
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi!* Let the name of Satan be exaulted!*
Hail Belial!* Heil Hitler!* Sieg Heil!* Ave Satanas!* Rege Satanas!* Heil, mein fuhrer!* Hail Satan!*
www.joyofsatan.org
www.exposingchristianity.com
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Raven Lythrum <lilylavycrowley@... wrote:
I'm honestly very wary right now because HP Maxine said in her post that the energy of Pluto is very permanent and is stronger than that of saturn and is not to be messed with.
Well, my sun is in scorpio, my mercury and venus are in scorpio, my jupiter is in scorpio, and my pluto is in scorpio. And of course, scorpio is ruled by the planet pluto. So since Pluto rules scorpio (or is pluto ruled by scorpio???), that means all these other planets are coming into contact with a very permanent powerful pluto.
Is this something to be concerned about for those of us that have stelliums in scorpio?
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_|_
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Knowledge is power.
"I am ever present to help all who trust in me and call upon me in time of need."~Father Satan; The Al-jilwah
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi!* Let the name of Satan be exaulted!*
Hail Belial!* Heil Hitler!* Sieg Heil!* Ave Satanas!* Rege Satanas!* Heil, mein fuhrer!* Hail Satan!*
www.joyofsatan.org
www.exposingchristianity.com
"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan