Overreacting to my posts

[Proshat]

Greetings brothers and sisters

Today was a really bad day for me. I made this post so that everyone who has a problem with me can come forward and talk about it.

Every time I express my feelings about something, I get ovens , and no matter what I say, everyone disagrees.

Why do you like to disagree with me on literally everything I say even when I prove to you that I'm telling the truth?

 

[OttoHart]

Might be lack of good communication on your part, or people just misunderstanding you (some people are naturally unlucky at this for chart related reasons).

No Zevist should never feel like they are generally disliked or ostracized, a couple disputes here and there shouldn't shake your confidence in your bond with this community.
In your case, I personally value your presence here.

Misunderstandings will resolve themselves, and even real, unsolvable conflicts can and will happen.
If we are to be an active and growing community, there will be people who will dislike one another, this is a natural consequence of socializing.
Do not let it demoralize you.

 

[616Taysha]

@Proshat bad idea, as Mercury is retrograde now = misunderstandings abound.

I think you have a victim mindset, that is especially triggered by how you're conditioned to see men. I don't think this can be helped by the forums as it looks very far gone. The only suggestion I can give is to ask help from the Gods, if you want to advance spiritually you will have to heal.

Aquarius has already told you about your victim mentality, so this post is needless; what this post does is only invite more discord and needles drama.

Advice? Wait until ME Rx is over, and go over what you've written. Martyrdom and siege mentality are in no way conducive to intellectual debates.

 

[Proshat]

@Proshat bad idea, as Mercury is retrograde now = misunderstandings abound.


Aquarius has already told you about your victim mentality, so this post is needless; what this post does is only invite more discord and needles drama.

Advice? Wait until ME Rx is over, and go over what you've written. Martyrdom and siege mentality are in no way conducive to intellectual debates.

Yesterday, everyone told me to make a post about it.

This isn’t a victim mentality because I wasn’t even complaining about how men feel about women. I don’t think they will change their feelings so I don't care .

The only thing I complained about was that people ignore what others say, but when I talk to someone, they find a reason to get mad.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

It seems this is mainly on your posts regarding men and women.

Most men are juvenile.

Most women are juvenile.

It’s not complicated. Hate the behaviours, not the people. Just avoid/ignore the people who engage in such behaviours. Don’t blame an entire sex though.

Focus on the ideals. Do rituals for Zeus as He is the ultimate archetype for Divine Masculinity. The way men should be isn’t how most men behave today, same thing for women.

As for the brothers here, like the sisters, pretty much all of us are flawed in some way and are trying to improve ourselves. Many will have resentment towards women, usually due to failures in dating.

Resentment of males/females towards the other sex is almost always caused by relationship issues. This should be counteracted through working on the soul to remove low self-esteem from oneself, doing rituals to heal one’s perception of the other sex, and then doing rituals to remove bad relationship karma and attract a good partner to one’s life. It takes work.

But as Zevists, we are a unit and no Zevist should ever cause conflict with another over such issues.

We need to avoid at all costs all forms of infighting and sectarian division. This is easy while we’re a small group, but it will get harder as our membership grows.

We are watched over by the Gods though, but we should also design rituals to maintain and strengthen that unity indefinitely.

 

[Epiphany]

Greetings brothers and sisters

Today was a really bad day for me. I made this post so that everyone who has a problem with me can come forward and talk about it.

Every time I express my feelings about something, I get ovens , and no matter what I say, everyone disagrees.

Why do you like to disagree with me on literally everything I say even when I prove to you that I'm telling the truth?

I don't think anybody has a problem with you personally, but it is important to be more aware of how you communicate because the way you word things can have drastic effects on how you're recieved by others, and that reception may not always feel good. And no matter what you say, there will always be someone who disagrees, but it doesn't mean they hate you or that you're a bad person. Even HPHC and HPS Lydia have haters.

Since learning more of your background in another thread, I can empathize with you. It sounds like your background introduced unique challenges, being a sensitive person and growing up in a culture of silence and not talking about anything must have been difficult, especially if you feel things deeply.

Being starved relationally may have delayed you from learning how to self regulate and modulate your speech & emotions. This is something I also gather from noticing how you seem to have a tendency of describing things in a black or white, all or nothing thinking style.

I also recall that you are young and you grew up in a culture that's difficult for women and this will obviously have an impact on how you view yourself and the world around you, inheriting karma/programming not just from your family but your society.

Have you studied your natal chart? This could give you the map you need to navigate your karma in this life. Psychology is also helpful to study, in order to gain an awareness and understanding of one's own mind and why it behaves the way it does.

 

[Proshat]

I don't think anybody has a problem with you personally, but it is important to be more aware of how you communicate because the way you word things can have drastic effects on how you're recieved by others, and that reception may not always feel good. And no matter what you say, there will always be someone who disagrees, but it doesn't mean they hate you or that you're a bad person. Even HPHC and HPS Lydia have haters.

Since learning more of your background in another thread, I can empathize with you. It sounds like your background introduced unique challenges, being a sensitive person and growing up in a culture of silence and not talking about anything must have been difficult, especially if you feel things deeply.

Being starved relationally may have delayed you from learning how to self regulate and modulate your speech & emotions. This is something I also gather from noticing how you seem to have a tendency of describing things in a black or white, all or nothing thinking style.

I also recall that you are young and you grew up in a culture that's difficult for women and this will obviously have an impact on how you view yourself and the world around you, inheriting karma/programming not just from your family but your society.

Have you studied your natal chart? This could give you the map you need to navigate your karma in this life. Psychology is also helpful to study, in order to gain an awareness and understanding of one's own mind and why it behaves the way it does.

I studied my natal chart. My sun ruined it for me. Now I know why I’ve always unconsciously hated the sun.

 

[616Taysha]

Yesterday, everyone told me to make a post about it.

And it's good that you have - what I'm worried about is that when Mercury is Rx, we may not get as clear of a picture as we'd like to.

Just this.

 

[AFODO]

Sometimes people forget we should be a loving and cohesive community. But you should also be stiff emotionally and see things as they are, if you receive a good advise that you might feel offended from, take this as a good advise because that's what it is, and do not be offended.

I don't know your situation exactly I'm just saying this generally.

 

[FancyMancy]

Greetings brothers and sisters

Today was a really bad day for me. I made this post so that everyone who has a problem with me can come forward and talk about it.

Every time I express my feelings about something, I get ovens , and no matter what I say, everyone disagrees.

Why do you like to disagree with me on literally everything I say even when I prove to you that I'm telling the truth?

See my thread where I asked if I was doing things wrong here. See how and where I don't get a lot of likes or similar replies; and my older thread where I stated that I don't get a lot of likes/re-tweets or whatever from ages ago. Meh. I am now not pre-moderated, so I must be doing at least one thing right, I must be doing something, or some things, right, or at least not wrong. You're not the only one.

Don't use my not being pre-moderated as influence for you to try to achieve the same, and then become upset and annoyed and angered if it doesn't happen when you want and expect it to, thinking that it should be done by now. As said, not everyone gets on with each other, so things happen, and we all come from different things and experiences in life, which interact and some might conflict. We can still be amicable and mature, though.

this post is needless; what this post does is only invite more discord and needles drama.

That can be very true indeed, but some people need to go through some things in different ways. Sort of like with a fresh mind or from different angles, etc.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

There are misunderstandings. People can read something from you and believe that it means something, when what you really meant was something different. Communication is a difficult skill that most people are not good enough with. This skill was extremely difficult for me for most of my life, and it took me practicing by writing thousands of things before I became good at this. This skill is not only difficult for the people speaking to say things in the best way, but also for the people listening to understand what is really meant and not just go right to the wrong conclusions.


One example is me and Stormblood both have the highest levels of respect and appreciation for each other. We always try to help each other and learn from each other. Could you imagine that years ago, we used to not like each other? We used to always argue about things that weren't even important. It looks so ridiculous now because it was ridiculous. It was not either of our faults, that neither of us did anything to really start an argument. But the problem was that both of us were not really understanding each other. We both were not careful enough to see what the other one actually meant and was actually trying to say, and we both argued based on what we imagined the other one meant instead of what was really meant.

That was years ago when our group was much smaller and weaker, and also at that time there were very many jews, muslims, christians, and people with bad intentions who had fake accounts here. And there were enemies who were actually doing large curses against all of us to try to split our group apart and to try to create arguments. This was also before the years of work with the RTRs, Final RTR, and Gods' Rituals, so at that time we did not have the same level of spiritual protection that we have now. Stormblood and I and everyone else here were always brothers, but we were targeted by curses to try to confuse us and try to make arguments. In the same way, if you are in a Muslim country, you are in a location that is surrounded by muslim curses that could be trying to create arguments. We all have to be careful and remember that we are all working together.

 

[Proshat]

See my thread where I asked if I was doing things wrong here. See how and where I don't get a lot of likes or similar replies; and my older thread where I stated that I don't get a lot of likes/re-tweets or whatever from ages ago. Meh. I am now not pre-moderated, so I must be doing at least one thing right, I must be doing something, or some things, right, or at least not wrong. You're not the only one.

Don't use my not being pre-moderated as influence for you to try to achieve the same, and then become upset and annoyed and angered if it doesn't happen when you want and expect it to, thinking that it should be done by now. As said, not everyone gets on with each other, so things happen, and we all come from different things and experiences in life, which interact and some might conflict. We can still be amicable and mature, though.


That can be very true indeed, but some people need to go through some things in different ways. Sort of like with a fresh mind or from different angles, etc.

I really hate to hurt other people's feelings

 

[Proshat]

There are misunderstandings. People can read something from you and believe that it means something, when what you really meant was something different. Communication is a difficult skill that most people are not good enough with. This skill was extremely difficult for me for most of my life, and it took me practicing by writing thousands of things before I became good at this. This skill is not only difficult for the people speaking to say things in the best way, but also for the people listening to understand what is really meant and not just go right to the wrong conclusions.


One example is me and Stormblood both have the highest levels of respect and appreciation for each other. We always try to help each other and learn from each other. Could you imagine that years ago, we used to not like each other? We used to always argue about things that weren't even important. It looks so ridiculous now because it was ridiculous. It was not either of our faults, that neither of us did anything to really start an argument. But the problem was that both of us were not really understanding each other. We both were not careful enough to see what the other one actually meant and was actually trying to say, and we both argued based on what we imagined the other one meant instead of what was really meant.

That was years ago when our group was much smaller and weaker, and also at that time there were very many jews, muslims, christians, and people with bad intentions who had fake accounts here. And there were enemies who were actually doing large curses against all of us to try to split our group apart and to try to create arguments. This was also before the years of work with the RTRs, Final RTR, and Gods' Rituals, so at that time we did not have the same level of spiritual protection that we have now. Stormblood and I and everyone else here were always brothers, but we were targeted by curses to try to confuse us and try to make arguments. In the same way, if you are in a Muslim country, you are in a location that is surrounded by muslim curses that could be trying to create arguments. We all have to be careful and remember that we are all working together.

Thank you brother
Your words helped me a lot

 

[FancyMancy]

I really hate to hurt other people's feelings

That's admirable, but you shouldn't try to please everyone, because you can't. Offence is not given; it is taken. Sometimes when arguing with idiots online, they try to say things against my Mum, but they're retarded because they know nothing about her. We can take offence, and we can - with practice - choose to not take offence.

You can't please everyone. Some people are very sensitive while others aren't. If I were to say "fuck you" to you, that might offend you. I say it to someone I know, and we both know it is meaningless and silly joking. Of course, it is context-dependent, but we can choose to take offence or to not take offence.