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Note On Tantra And Vedantic
This is from a thread on another egroup:

True it should be noted the Tantra is actually the spiritual knowledge of the Vedic period. Tantra holds the same meaning as Veda [enlightenment]. The Tantric Gods are the Vedic Gods. The Tantra came down via the Purana period. Which is where the civilization shifted to the Ganges region. From the Indus, Saraswati civilization. This marks the decline of the Vedic period and the move into the Hindu one. This seems to have happened as due to great catastrophe which changed the face of the regions of the Aryan world and caused a major decline in the Aryan world as a whole. From this point its a slow decline to the current world.



Its noted how far the enemy corrupted the Vedic teachings by the offical Tantric period their schools where in conflict with the Vedantic systems. Which where the origin of the Tantra and where the Tantra came from. Vedantic was in its proper role, the Vedic system on transforming oneself into the Godhead. Hence end of the Veda's. As Veda is the system of transformation into the Perfected state. By Vedantic this goal was obtained.















From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 6:28:50 AM
Subject: [Teens4Satan] Re: Paganism vs Satanism





What most people call Paganism is Neo-Paganism with no relation to the real Ancient Paganism. You can see that Neo-Paganism is corrupted and in many cases xianized.

For example the Neo-Pagans try to claim that all the Gods are one and all the Goddesses are one. This never happened in ancient Paganism, the Gods are extraterrestrial beings and completely different from eachother. Astaroth and Lilith are two different Goddesses for example.

Then many of them follow xian morals and pacifism, like "harm none", this didn't exist in ancient Paganism, where the people were proud warriors and fought and destroyed their enemies instead of turning the other cheek to them. The Druids for example, besides white magick they were also masters in black magick as well as the Vikings who used Runic Curses a lot.

Most of them don't understand that actually the entire thing is allegorical and most of the Pagan stories are allegories for inner workings and the Magnum Opus. They claim to worship "nature" but ancient Paganism didn't worship nature, even though it respected. The real essence of the Ancient Pagan religions were not in what they said in public (which was allegorical and not literal), but what was taught in Esoteric Mystery schools. For example, the Greeks had the Eleusinian Mysteries. The true essence of the Greek religion was in the teachings of the Mysteries and not what the uninitiated people believed. And the Mysteries come from the East and are related to Tantra, spiritual transformation, raising the kundalini e.t.c. What Spiritual Satanism is about. It's a path to Godhood and not merely a nature worshipping religion.

--- In mailto:Teens4Satan%40yahoogroups.com, Dylan Ramos <dzydog16@... wrote:

What's the difference between them? My friend was talking to me about it and it sounds really similar
 
The Book of Secrets with the teachings of Osho, talks about tantra and 112 techniques. There is one called "Visualize light rays rising up your spine". This is technique number 70. It starts on page 666.
(Scare the superstitious, eh). This technique, the serpent kundalini technique, technique number 70 like the average life of a person, (7 is considered a sacred number), on page 666 the number of man in the christian book of revelations. I wonder if the person that put Osho's teachings together knew something about this technique. Then there is Baphomet. (Right hand raised to the crescent sun 'Pingala' cosmic, male energy down the right side of the spine. Left hand lowered to the crescent moon, female, earth energy up the left side of the spine, like yoga teaches.) The two serpents circling the spine and facing each other at the solar plexus chakra (the power chakra). I read that when male and female energy are perfectly balanced, the kundalini occurs and circles the spine three and one half times. Then there is the flame above the head of Baphomet, as in the christian tongues of fire at pentacost.
A bunch of symbolism to scare away the superstitious and timed?
So back to the tantra. The Book of Secrets has supposedly all of the techniques that exist (112 techniques). Well, 113 counting the one that is not numbered. "Try these techniques honestly. And if you are a failure, then that very failure will become your 'surrender'. That is the ultimate technique. Okay?" Page 258.
Osho's contention is that the ancient tantra was not about sex so much as in liberating oneself. He contends that sex is just a means to that end. And Tantra appanently came around long before christianity. The christians just stole parts of it and claimed it as their own, like they do with lots of other things. Even a religious preacher said the bible was a 'code book'. He was likely not talking about the Bible Code smokescreen. He was into the occult and it is likely he was talking about secrets of life in code form.
Anyway, The Book of Secrets has a broader viewpoint about tantra than just sex. Whether Shiva and Shakti actually existed,,, I don't know.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Don" <mageson6666@... wrote:

Note On Tantra And Vedantic
This is from a thread on another egroup:

True it should be noted the Tantra is actually the spiritual knowledge of the Vedic period. Tantra holds the same meaning as Veda [enlightenment]. The Tantric Gods are the Vedic Gods. The Tantra came down via the Purana period. Which is where the civilization shifted to the Ganges region. From the Indus, Saraswati civilization. This marks the decline of the Vedic period and the move into the Hindu one. This seems to have happened as due to great catastrophe which changed the face of the regions of the Aryan world and caused a major decline in the Aryan world as a whole. From this point its a slow decline to the current world.



Its noted how far the enemy corrupted the Vedic teachings by the offical Tantric period their schools where in conflict with the Vedantic systems. Which where the origin of the Tantra and where the Tantra came from. Vedantic was in its proper role, the Vedic system on transforming oneself into the Godhead. Hence end of the Veda's. As Veda is the system of transformation into the Perfected state. By Vedantic this goal was obtained.















From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 6:28:50 AM
Subject: [Teens4Satan] Re: Paganism vs Satanism





What most people call Paganism is Neo-Paganism with no relation to the real Ancient Paganism. You can see that Neo-Paganism is corrupted and in many cases xianized.

For example the Neo-Pagans try to claim that all the Gods are one and all the Goddesses are one. This never happened in ancient Paganism, the Gods are extraterrestrial beings and completely different from eachother. Astaroth and Lilith are two different Goddesses for example.

Then many of them follow xian morals and pacifism, like "harm none", this didn't exist in ancient Paganism, where the people were proud warriors and fought and destroyed their enemies instead of turning the other cheek to them. The Druids for example, besides white magick they were also masters in black magick as well as the Vikings who used Runic Curses a lot.

Most of them don't understand that actually the entire thing is allegorical and most of the Pagan stories are allegories for inner workings and the Magnum Opus. They claim to worship "nature" but ancient Paganism didn't worship nature, even though it respected. The real essence of the Ancient Pagan religions were not in what they said in public (which was allegorical and not literal), but what was taught in Esoteric Mystery schools. For example, the Greeks had the Eleusinian Mysteries. The true essence of the Greek religion was in the teachings of the Mysteries and not what the uninitiated people believed. And the Mysteries come from the East and are related to Tantra, spiritual transformation, raising the kundalini e.t.c. What Spiritual Satanism is about. It's a path to Godhood and not merely a nature worshipping religion.

--- In mailto:Teens4Satan%40yahoogroups.com, Dylan Ramos <dzydog16@ wrote:

What's the difference between them? My friend was talking to me about it and it sounds really similar
 
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On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 4:07 PM CDT clayton wrote:

The Book of Secrets with the teachings of Osho, talks about tantra and 112 techniques. There is one called "Visualize light rays rising up your spine". This is technique number 70. It starts on page 666.
(Scare the superstitious, eh). This technique, the serpent kundalini technique, technique number 70 like the average life of a person, (7 is considered a sacred number), on page 666 the number of man in the christian book of revelations. I wonder if the person that put Osho's teachings together knew something about this technique. Then there is Baphomet. (Right hand raised to the crescent sun 'Pingala' cosmic, male energy down the right side of the spine. Left hand lowered to the crescent moon, female, earth energy up the left side of the spine, like yoga teaches.) The two serpents circling the spine and facing each other at the solar plexus chakra (the power chakra). I read that when male and female energy are perfectly balanced, the kundalini occurs and circles the spine three and one half times. Then there is the flame above the head of Baphomet, as in the christian tongues of fire at pentacost.
A bunch of symbolism to scare away the superstitious and timed?
So back to the tantra. The Book of Secrets has supposedly all of the techniques that exist (112 techniques). Well, 113 counting the one that is not numbered. "Try these techniques honestly. And if you are a failure, then that very failure will become your 'surrender'. That is the ultimate technique. Okay?" Page 258.
Osho's contention is that the ancient tantra was not about sex so much as in liberating oneself. He contends that sex is just a means to that end. And Tantra appanently came around long before christianity. The christians just stole parts of it and claimed it as their own, like they do with lots of other things. Even a religious preacher said the bible was a 'code book'. He was likely not talking about the Bible Code smokescreen. He was into the occult and it is likely he was talking about secrets of life in code form.
Anyway, The Book of Secrets has a broader viewpoint about tantra than just sex. Whether Shiva and Shakti actually existed,,, I don't know.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Don" <mageson6666@... wrote:

Note On Tantra And Vedantic
This is from a thread on another egroup:

True it should be noted the Tantra is actually the spiritual knowledge of the Vedic period. Tantra holds the same meaning as Veda [enlightenment]. The Tantric Gods are the Vedic Gods. The Tantra came down via the Purana period. Which is where the civilization shifted to the Ganges region. From the Indus, Saraswati civilization. This marks the decline of the Vedic period and the move into the Hindu one. This seems to have happened as due to great catastrophe which changed the face of the regions of the Aryan world and caused a major decline in the Aryan world as a whole. From this point its a slow decline to the current world.



Its noted how far the enemy corrupted the Vedic teachings by the offical Tantric period their schools where in conflict with the Vedantic systems. Which where the origin of the Tantra and where the Tantra came from. Vedantic was in its proper role, the Vedic system on transforming oneself into the Godhead. Hence end of the Veda's. As Veda is the system of transformation into the Perfected state. By Vedantic this goal was obtained.















From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 6:28:50 AM
Subject: [Teens4Satan] Re: Paganism vs Satanism





What most people call Paganism is Neo-Paganism with no relation to the real Ancient Paganism. You can see that Neo-Paganism is corrupted and in many cases xianized.

For example the Neo-Pagans try to claim that all the Gods are one and all the Goddesses are one. This never happened in ancient Paganism, the Gods are extraterrestrial beings and completely different from eachother. Astaroth and Lilith are two different Goddesses for example.

Then many of them follow xian morals and pacifism, like "harm none", this didn't exist in ancient Paganism, where the people were proud warriors and fought and destroyed their enemies instead of turning the other cheek to them. The Druids for example, besides white magick they were also masters in black magick as well as the Vikings who used Runic Curses a lot.

Most of them don't understand that actually the entire thing is allegorical and most of the Pagan stories are allegories for inner workings and the Magnum Opus. They claim to worship "nature" but ancient Paganism didn't worship nature, even though it respected. The real essence of the Ancient Pagan religions were not in what they said in public (which was allegorical and not literal), but what was taught in Esoteric Mystery schools. For example, the Greeks had the Eleusinian Mysteries. The true essence of the Greek religion was in the teachings of the Mysteries and not what the uninitiated people believed. And the Mysteries come from the East and are related to Tantra, spiritual transformation, raising the kundalini e.t.c. What Spiritual Satanism is about. It's a path to Godhood and not merely a nature worshipping religion.

--- In mailto:Teens4Satan%40yahoogroups.com, Dylan Ramos <dzydog16@ wrote:

What's the difference between them? My friend was talking to me about it and it sounds really similar
 

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