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Natural Law: what is it, what is it determined by, etc..(help me fil

exarkuun1991

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I got a lot of info jumbled up in my head, and could use some help clearing it out, organizing it, etc..regarding some things, mostly Natural Law
so what is it? is it the "meaning of life," self-improvement? is it rigid with consequences for breaking it or what? how does free will fit in to all this? what determines if something is within Natural Law or not? is it a worthwhile structure to try to figure out at any point of advancement?

that last two are what i'm trying to understand mostly. I'm wanting to know if what I'm doing/thinking about is..basically good or bad.
 
I think it involes stuff like, esoteric logic, stuff like if you believe you won’t fall off a cliff and you jump, it doesn’t matter if you think you can fly you will die. Probably not the best guy to explain.. ?.. yeah.. it’s like occulted knowledge on how the world works I think. But again I’ve got to do some study to 

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On 20 Jan 2019, at 4:55 pm, exarkuun1991@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:
  I got a lot of info jumbled up in my head, and could use some help clearing it out, organizing it, etc..regarding some things, mostly Natural Law
so what is it? is it the "meaning of life," self-improvement? is it rigid with consequences for breaking it or what? how does free will fit in to all this? what determines if something is within Natural Law or not? is it a worthwhile structure to try to figure out at any point of advancement?

that last two are what i'm trying to understand mostly. I'm wanting to know if what I'm doing/thinking about is..basically good or bad.
 
yeah that's why i'm looking for info on it. as i advance i realize i've made choices that go against it, or go against what natural law is for humans. i'd like to do what i can to stop that, and to plan around it, for my future self. future-proof my current workings, etc.
though if anyone says "it's about making yourself better," that's too broad. many things i think will make myself better, but trust me, servitors that clean my room is NOT a valid replacement for removing laziness, etc..although it'd be badass.
 
I don't think it's ever been explicitly defined, but I think it's pretty much self evident.

Things like if you're not on a path of advancement and evolution then you are, by natural consequence, on a path of stagnation and devolution, the universe doesn't care about any being any more than you care about the 6 million skin cells you shoah every time you scratch yourself, that you're responsible for your own welfare and development and there will be no magic skydaddy issuing gibs or salvation for being a "good goy", that there are consequences to your actions and inactions and good things can only come with personal responsibility & time & effort invested, etc.

So yes, improvement and responsibility fall under it. The ancient Roman stoics talk about living according to nature, maybe studying their ways will help you understand.
 
Laws of the universe I guess, like if you do drugs and hang around boozes your whole life it doesn’t matter how charismatic you are  or how you want to change your personality and think it’s you, your traits of being such a person will rub off on others, then again I’m new to the concept/law 

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On 25 Jan 2019, at 3:57 pm, exarkuun1991@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:
  yeah that's why i'm looking for info on it. as i advance i realize i've made choices that go against it, or go against what natural law is for humans. i'd like to do what i can to stop that, and to plan around it, for my future self. future-proof my current workings, etc.
though if anyone says "it's about making yourself better," that's too broad. many things i think will make myself better, but trust me, servitors that clean my room is NOT a valid replacement for removing laziness, etc..although it'd be badass.
 
I was hoping such wasn't the case, that it's something we understand as we develop. it doesn't feel right, knowing that I'm not going 100% within the rules. but maybe that's because i'm a bit strict on some rules..oh well.
thanks for the responses.
 
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On Jan 25, 2019 5:50 PM, "curi0@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:
  I don't think it's ever been explicitly defined, but I think it's pretty much self evident.

Things like if you're not on a path of advancement and evolution then you are, by natural consequence, on a path of stagnation and devolution, the universe doesn't care about any being any more than you care about the 6 million skin cells you shoah every time you scratch yourself, that you're responsible for your own welfare and development and there will be no magic skydaddy issuing gibs or salvation for being a "good goy", that there are consequences to your actions and inactions and good things can only come with personal responsibility & time & effort invested, etc.

So yes, improvement and responsibility fall under it. The ancient Roman stoics talk about living according to nature, maybe studying their ways will help you understand.
 
Maybe it would help for you not to think of them as laws but as principles. Don't act like a xian and see them as like the 10 commandments and if you break one then the universe will throw you into a flaming torture chamber for all eternity. That's not how it works.

But calling them laws seems to be the most fitting since there are consequences if you don't follow them, like the one about striving to improve and advance.
 
except that the negative consequences are avoidable.

but maybe I am trying to act too much like a well oiled machine..I've just broken so many rules and was punished by my mother a lot growing up, I have no excuse to break more rules as an adult..
 

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