Losing hope?

[meierkael]

I think I am, I asked Father to prove to me that this all isn't a fantasy last night, and nothing happened. Why? I was respectful, I even begged for him to do something. Nothing happened. Why? I haven't done the dedication ritual yet, but others have gotten proof before that. I plan on trying tonight again, if nothing happens, then I don't know. Any suggestions on why I haven't gotten any solid evidence that I need to fully believe? I did have faith and trust in Father that night.

 

[anaxium]

You have to understand that there is no real "Faith" in our religion, everything we believe in has been recorded and proven throughout history, you just have to do your research is all. We are all individuals and we all have different experiences at different times. You just have to be patient and understanding. Right now is a VERY busy time for the gods and they don't always have time to answer us right away. Just remain calm.

Hail Father Satan!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "meierkael" <meierkael@... wrote:

I think I am, I asked Father to prove to me that this all isn't a fantasy last night, and nothing happened. Why? I was respectful, I even begged for him to do something. Nothing happened. Why? I haven't done the dedication ritual yet, but others have gotten proof before that. I plan on trying tonight again, if nothing happens, then I don't know. Any suggestions on why I haven't gotten any solid evidence that I need to fully believe? I did have faith and trust in Father that night.

 

[sosayeththeserpent]

In my experience with about 8 months as a Satanist begging Father to do anything doesn't do shit. If he hasn't given you a sign it's because he isn't ready to give you one. It's not a personal thing, it's just because it isn't your time yet. Pucker up and move on. If you really have faith in believe in Father, go ahead and do the Dedication Ritual. When I did the Ritual, I didn't know that it was going to work either, I just believe it would.

 

[High Priest Jake Carlson]

You need to settle down, little man. Who and what do you actually think Satan is??? Satan does NOT waste his time on people who want him to do little parlor tricks, or on people who need "proof" of his existence, and who can blame him???? We are still fighting a huge fucking war, and do you honestly believe that Satan is going to put his ass on the line for someone who's heart isn't even in this??

The best advice I can give you is to ask yourself WHY you are thinking about becoming a Satanist. There is only one Satan. Yes, he is an extra-terrestrial, not an archetype or a force. He is an INDIVIDUAL, as are all of his Demons. They CAN perform miracles, like how Satan saved my partner's life without being asked to. Satan and his Demons are very proud beings who deserve their respect, NOT little brat commands to satisfy pointless doubt.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "meierkael" <meierkael@... wrote:

I think I am, I asked Father to prove to me that this all isn't a fantasy last night, and nothing happened. Why? I was respectful, I even begged for him to do something. Nothing happened. Why? I haven't done the dedication ritual yet, but others have gotten proof before that. I plan on trying tonight again, if nothing happens, then I don't know. Any suggestions on why I haven't gotten any solid evidence that I need to fully believe? I did have faith and trust in Father that night.

 

[Karen Krug]

in response to the person who needs proof I am also new to JoS but i dont need proof from Father I know in my heart and in my soul he is there i can feel it He is helping me in more ways than i can count really to rid myself of all the bad garbage that has heaped up on my during my lifetime He is helping me live a more tranquil life there are still problems of every day living its not a bed of roses but my outlook is different now i know Father Satan and the Gods of Hell have my back i know i can count on Him so if u want proof of something that is self evident then your heart isnt in the right place nor your mind
i felt Father Satan after reading my first paragraph on JoS webite
that was all the confirmation i needed
thank you again it really is changing my life
Hail Satan Hail the Gods of Hell

 

[HenryH]

So let me get this straight. You are not yet a Satanist, and you want Satan, the god above all other gods, to appear to you, the one who is not yet a Satanist, because you begged for him desperately?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "meierkael" <meierkael@... wrote:

I think I am, I asked Father to prove to me that this all isn't a fantasy last night, and nothing happened. Why? I was respectful, I even begged for him to do something. Nothing happened. Why? I haven't done the dedication ritual yet, but others have gotten proof before that. I plan on trying tonight again, if nothing happens, then I don't know. Any suggestions on why I haven't gotten any solid evidence that I need to fully believe? I did have faith and trust in Father that night.

 

[Allison P]

Well said, Karen! I've been a Satanist for three years, and I know
that Father is always there for me when I need him. I feel in my soul
that this is so, and he has proven this to me multiple times. He is
amazing! Satan/Enki is the true "Most Highest". Hail Father Satan
always!

On 12/21/11, HenryH <astralnaut888@... wrote:
So let me get this straight. You are not yet a Satanist, and you want Satan,
the god above all other gods, to appear to you, the one who is not yet a
Satanist, because you begged for him desperately?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "meierkael" <meierkael@... wrote:

I think I am, I asked Father to prove to me that this all isn't a fantasy
last night, and nothing happened. Why? I was respectful, I even begged for
him to do something. Nothing happened. Why? I haven't done the dedication
ritual yet, but others have gotten proof before that. I plan on trying
tonight again, if nothing happens, then I don't know. Any suggestions on
why I haven't gotten any solid evidence that I need to fully believe? I
did have faith and trust in Father that night.

 

[aarzhul]

When I dedicated, I felt and briefly saw satan.
The feeling was amazing and I had not expected or begged for any proof or sign. He acknowledged my dedication and took a few seconds to let me know it which I am very grateful for.

If you do believe he is real and trust him, why bother him with proofs?
These will come naturally as you progress, not to change what you think but to confirm what you knew all along.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "meierkael" <meierkael@... wrote:

I think I am, I asked Father to prove to me that this all isn't a fantasy last night, and nothing happened. Why? I was respectful, I even begged for him to do something. Nothing happened. Why? I haven't done the dedication ritual yet, but others have gotten proof before that. I plan on trying tonight again, if nothing happens, then I don't know. Any suggestions on why I haven't gotten any solid evidence that I need to fully believe? I did have faith and trust in Father that night.

 

[ro roo]

If you will dedicate yourself to the Almighty Father Satan, you will know that no proof is needed. Only Father Satan knows the best when, where and what for you. 
From: meierkael <meierkael@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:14 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Losing hope?

  I think I am, I asked Father to prove to me that this all isn't a fantasy last night, and nothing happened. Why? I was respectful, I even begged for him to do something. Nothing happened. Why? I haven't done the dedication ritual yet, but others have gotten proof before that. I plan on trying tonight again, if nothing happens, then I don't know. Any suggestions on why I haven't gotten any solid evidence that I need to fully believe? I did have faith and trust in Father that night.

 

[k4mikaze_watermel0n]

you mention others getting 'proof'. for starters i doubt they were seeking any. but importantly, it may have simply boiled down to the fact that THEY were CHOSEN.

we are not all chosen. many of us sought him out for the truth to complete our lives and ourselves. others were chosen; it may be to fight the enemy. it may be to help others who need to know him, find him. maybe you will be chosen; but maybe not now.

in your case it would be wise to remember: realising the truth and being ready to utilise/respect it is a completely different thing to reading it and being unsure over it. look within yourself. ARE YOU READY? know yourself.

when you are ready, you will cast your fear and doubt aside. your 'need' for proof will cease; you will know you will have all the proof you would've ever wanted in due course. some of us need to use the dreaded 5-letter 'F' word that xianity ruined, to make that first step towards the rightous path. to fight against lies, and to fight for your liberty. to give Satan the respect and love he deserves; that which he gives to our entire race.
never forget, YOU are not HIS father. HE is YOURS.


tell you what; when you are ready, apply that 5-letter 'F' word. go on the JOS site, click on meditations, power meditations, and preform a deep trance and/or whats listed as 'the most important foundation meditation'. if you are sucessful, then why would you need any further proof? these are from Satan and his kin, presents to HIS children, Humanity, for our use to empower and liberate ourselves.
once you become adept, keep going. get stronger. dedicate yourself to his cause. we will fight, shoulder to shoulder, for a free tomorrow.


PRAISE SATAN!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "meierkael" <meierkael@... wrote:

I think I am, I asked Father to prove to me that this all isn't a fantasy last night, and nothing happened. Why? I was respectful, I even begged for him to do something. Nothing happened. Why? I haven't done the dedication ritual yet, but others have gotten proof before that. I plan on trying tonight again, if nothing happens, then I don't know. Any suggestions on why I haven't gotten any solid evidence that I need to fully believe? I did have faith and trust in Father that night.

 

[High Priest Jake Carlson]

My response to the individual in question was rightfully so, as your message is rightfully inspirational to many people, I would assume. The individual who started this thread tried to post another message. They were trying to get Satan to turn on their TV. I'm not kidding. Unbelievable!

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "k4mikaze_watermel0n" <adze-haakai@... wrote:

you mention others getting 'proof'. for starters i doubt they were seeking any. but importantly, it may have simply boiled down to the fact that THEY were CHOSEN.

we are not all chosen. many of us sought him out for the truth to complete our lives and ourselves. others were chosen; it may be to fight the enemy. it may be to help others who need to know him, find him. maybe you will be chosen; but maybe not now.

in your case it would be wise to remember: realising the truth and being ready to utilise/respect it is a completely different thing to reading it and being unsure over it. look within yourself. ARE YOU READY? know yourself.

when you are ready, you will cast your fear and doubt aside. your 'need' for proof will cease; you will know you will have all the proof you would've ever wanted in due course. some of us need to use the dreaded 5-letter 'F' word that xianity ruined, to make that first step towards the rightous path. to fight against lies, and to fight for your liberty. to give Satan the respect and love he deserves; that which he gives to our entire race.
never forget, YOU are not HIS father. HE is YOURS.


tell you what; when you are ready, apply that 5-letter 'F' word. go on the JOS site, click on meditations, power meditations, and preform a deep trance and/or whats listed as 'the most important foundation meditation'. if you are sucessful, then why would you need any further proof? these are from Satan and his kin, presents to HIS children, Humanity, for our use to empower and liberate ourselves.
once you become adept, keep going. get stronger. dedicate yourself to his cause. we will fight, shoulder to shoulder, for a free tomorrow.


PRAISE SATAN!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "meierkael" <meierkael@ wrote:

I think I am, I asked Father to prove to me that this all isn't a fantasy last night, and nothing happened. Why? I was respectful, I even begged for him to do something. Nothing happened. Why? I haven't done the dedication ritual yet, but others have gotten proof before that. I plan on trying tonight again, if nothing happens, then I don't know. Any suggestions on why I haven't gotten any solid evidence that I need to fully believe? I did have faith and trust in Father that night.

 

[Peace and joy Peace and joy]

Beautiful and great post, K4mikaze.I do like the way you explained Father.Happy Yule !PRAISE SATAN !!!!
De : k4mikaze_watermel0n <adze-haakai@...
À : [email protected]
Envoyé le : Jeudi 22 Décembre 2011 17h08
Objet : [JoyofSatan666] Re: Losing hope?

  you mention others getting 'proof'. for starters i doubt they were seeking any. but importantly, it may have simply boiled down to the fact that THEY were CHOSEN.

we are not all chosen. many of us sought him out for the truth to complete our lives and ourselves. others were chosen; it may be to fight the enemy. it may be to help others who need to know him, find him. maybe you will be chosen; but maybe not now.

in your case it would be wise to remember: realising the truth and being ready to utilise/respect it is a completely different thing to reading it and being unsure over it. look within yourself. ARE YOU READY? know yourself.

when you are ready, you will cast your fear and doubt aside. your 'need' for proof will cease; you will know you will have all the proof you would've ever wanted in due course. some of us need to use the dreaded 5-letter 'F' word that xianity ruined, to make that first step towards the rightous path. to fight against lies, and to fight for your liberty. to give Satan the respect and love he deserves; that which he gives to our entire race.
never forget, YOU are not HIS father. HE is YOURS.

tell you what; when you are ready, apply that 5-letter 'F' word. go on the JOS site, click on meditations, power meditations, and preform a deep trance and/or whats listed as 'the most important foundation meditation'. if you are sucessful, then why would you need any further proof? these are from Satan and his kin, presents to HIS children, Humanity, for our use to empower and liberate ourselves.
once you become adept, keep going. get stronger. dedicate yourself to his cause. we will fight, shoulder to shoulder, for a free tomorrow.

PRAISE SATAN!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "meierkael" <meierkael@... wrote:

I think I am, I asked Father to prove to me that this all isn't a fantasy last night, and nothing happened. Why? I was respectful, I even begged for him to do something. Nothing happened. Why? I haven't done the dedication ritual yet, but others have gotten proof before that. I plan on trying tonight again, if nothing happens, then I don't know. Any suggestions on why I haven't gotten any solid evidence that I need to fully believe? I did have faith and trust in Father that night.