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Zir Ipol

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Here's a very well done article on that great magickian by a great
magickian. This will be a helpful introduction into the man and his work.

http://www.rawilsonfans.com/articles/GreatBeast.htm

Other than that I can only suggest you read his work and practice his
exercises. Book 4 is probably the best one you can get for all things
practical as well as Liber E for daily exercises. You can find most
of his work online at http://www.hermetic.com/ but it's never any
substitute for the printed work. There is much out there on Crowley,
you just need to look for it.

Study, practice and advance. This is war ladies and gentlemen; let's
usher in a new aeon.
 
From what I have read of his, he was a user of the jewish perverted
kabala and used spiritually abusive techniques on the Demons.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@... wrote:
Here's a very well done article on that great magickian by a great
magickian. This will be a helpful introduction into the man and
his work.
http://www.rawilsonfans.com/articles/GreatBeast.htm

Other than that I can only suggest you read his work and practice
his
exercises. Book 4 is probably the best one you can get for all
things
practical as well as Liber E for daily exercises. You can find
most
of his work online at http://www.hermetic.com/ but it's never any
substitute for the printed work. There is much out there on
Crowley,
you just need to look for it.

Study, practice and advance. This is war ladies and gentlemen;
let's
usher in a new aeon.
 
He used the Goetia as a Psychological Tool and the Kaballah is just
one big Hyper Sigil that can be used to know where your mind is at.
Unless you wanna think that magick is fairy dust and pheonix feathers,
he's really done nothing that a Jungian hasn't.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@... wrote:
From what I have read of his, he was a user of the jewish perverted
kabala and used spiritually abusive techniques on the Demons.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

Here's a very well done article on that great magickian by a great
magickian. This will be a helpful introduction into the man and
his work.

http://www.rawilsonfans.com/articles/GreatBeast.htm

Other than that I can only suggest you read his work and practice
his
exercises. Book 4 is probably the best one you can get for all
things
practical as well as Liber E for daily exercises. You can find
most
of his work online at http://www.hermetic.com/ but it's never any
substitute for the printed work. There is much out there on
Crowley,
you just need to look for it.

Study, practice and advance. This is war ladies and gentlemen;
let's
usher in a new aeon.
 
The Goetia is not a "psychological tool" and did his "holy" guardan
angel help him too? And his abusive spiritual actions. And the
kaballah is not one big hyper sigil to know where your mind is at.lol

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@... wrote:
He used the Goetia as a Psychological Tool and the Kaballah is just
one big Hyper Sigil that can be used to know where your mind is
at.
Unless you wanna think that magick is fairy dust and pheonix
feathers,
he's really done nothing that a Jungian hasn't.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

From what I have read of his, he was a user of the jewish
perverted
kabala and used spiritually abusive techniques on the Demons.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

Here's a very well done article on that great magickian by a
great
magickian. This will be a helpful introduction into the man
and
his work.

http://www.rawilsonfans.com/articles/GreatBeast.htm

Other than that I can only suggest you read his work and
practice
his
exercises. Book 4 is probably the best one you can get for
all
things
practical as well as Liber E for daily exercises. You can
find
most
of his work online at http://www.hermetic.com/ but it's never
any
substitute for the printed work. There is much out there on
Crowley,
you just need to look for it.

Study, practice and advance. This is war ladies and
gentlemen;
let's
usher in a new aeon.
 
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@... wroteutter ull hit. et me say omethingon his.
he book s ot sigal. t's acred text used y he egyptians do ot now
uch f t but i do have espect for he gyptians. nd as or emons, yes
crowley did use summoning rituals that e ould ot se ecause it s hat f
he hristian ay f ummoning and it s taywa tiwol reat fllow atanist,
od o demon. i'm pretty uch polytheisitic ut do believen ucifer nd he
editations. i ould o ll ay ow becoming atanist s ore than ust oing
against christianity and 'm ired f te tter ull hat ose n in ur world.


but es he an imsef id now ow o visualize nd use magic. that s he only
oncept f is like to remember shat ocus n hapes nd enses. vry uch
ike our raining.:
He used the Goetia as a Psychological Tool and the Kaballah is just
one big Hyper Sigil that can be used to know where your mind is at.
Unless you wanna think that magick is fairy dust and pheonix
feathers,
he's really done nothing that a Jungian hasn't.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

From what I have read of his, he was a user of the jewish
perverted
kabala and used spiritually abusive techniques on the Demons.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

Here's a very well done article on that great magickian by a
great
magickian. This will be a helpful introduction into the man
and
his work.

http://www.rawilsonfans.com/articles/GreatBeast.htm

Other than that I can only suggest you read his work and
practice
his
exercises. Book 4 is probably the best one you can get for all
things
practical as well as Liber E for daily exercises. You can find
most
of his work online at http://www.hermetic.com/ but it's never
any
substitute for the printed work. There is much out there on
Crowley,
you just need to look for it.

Study, practice and advance. This is war ladies and gentlemen;
let's
usher in a new aeon.
 
You talk to me as a newcomer about these things. I propose you study
these techniques further, notice I didn't say use, before you pass
blind judgment on what they are and are not. Try all you want at
being a spiritual warrior, but if you never learn how to use the
reason of the sword then you'll be trying to juice a rock this entire
time. I suggest you don't believe all the legends, hype and half
cocked new age bigotries about these systems and learn how to think
for yourself. However if a closed mind and absolute certainty is your
idea of thinking for yourself as a Satanist then by all means stay in
the dark puppet666.lol

Also do you really think a man who so hated Christianity as Crowley
would believe in the literal term "Holy Guardian Angel?" To him it
was considered a combination of the Self and Not-Self, or integration
of the Subconscious and Group Minds. He did acknowledge the
possibility of it being a higher intelligence; but if you actually
read Liber al vel Legis which was transcribed from this state then
upon finishing it it's obviously very militant against Christianity
and all other such monastic religions. Hell it even talks about
killing Christ, Allah and pecking out the eyes of the Buddha. Now if
the warlike sentiment of his higher intelligence or HGA isn't of
Father than I don't know what is "mageus"666. The public called the
man a Satanist, you call him a Jewish Mystic. He was just a man with
a limited 1900's magic tool box and he did what he could with it.lol

Daily power meditations can only take you so far, no matter how
powerful or secret you think that meditation is. The information is
no longer secret so why not arm yourself with all the information and
technique possible while "they" learn yours.lol


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@... wrote:
The Goetia is not a "psychological tool" and did his "holy" guardan
angel help him too? And his abusive spiritual actions. And the
kaballah is not one big hyper sigil to know where your mind is at.lol

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

He used the Goetia as a Psychological Tool and the Kaballah is just
one big Hyper Sigil that can be used to know where your mind is
at.
Unless you wanna think that magick is fairy dust and pheonix
feathers,
he's really done nothing that a Jungian hasn't.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

From what I have read of his, he was a user of the jewish
perverted
kabala and used spiritually abusive techniques on the Demons.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

Here's a very well done article on that great magickian by a
great
magickian. This will be a helpful introduction into the man
and
his work.

http://www.rawilsonfans.com/articles/GreatBeast.htm

Other than that I can only suggest you read his work and
practice
his
exercises. Book 4 is probably the best one you can get for
all
things
practical as well as Liber E for daily exercises. You can
find
most
of his work online at http://www.hermetic.com/ but it's never
any
substitute for the printed work. There is much out there on
Crowley,
you just need to look for it.

Study, practice and advance. This is war ladies and
gentlemen;
let's
usher in a new aeon.
 
Um....your talking to yourself here, the jew kabala is filled with
jew blasphemy of all kinds against Father Satan and the Demons.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@... wrote:
You talk to me as a newcomer about these things. I propose you
study
these techniques further, notice I didn't say use, before you pass
blind judgment on what they are and are not. Try all you want at
being a spiritual warrior, but if you never learn how to use the
reason of the sword then you'll be trying to juice a rock this
entire
time. I suggest you don't believe all the legends, hype and half
cocked new age bigotries about these systems and learn how to think
for yourself. However if a closed mind and absolute certainty is
your
idea of thinking for yourself as a Satanist then by all means stay
in
the dark puppet666.lol

Also do you really think a man who so hated Christianity as Crowley
would believe in the literal term "Holy Guardian Angel?" To him it
was considered a combination of the Self and Not-Self, or
integration
of the Subconscious and Group Minds. He did acknowledge the
possibility of it being a higher intelligence; but if you actually
read Liber al vel Legis which was transcribed from this state then
upon finishing it it's obviously very militant against Christianity
and all other such monastic religions. Hell it even talks about
killing Christ, Allah and pecking out the eyes of the Buddha. Now
if
the warlike sentiment of his higher intelligence or HGA isn't of
Father than I don't know what is "mageus"666. The public called
the
man a Satanist, you call him a Jewish Mystic. He was just a man
with
a limited 1900's magic tool box and he did what he could with
it.lol
Daily power meditations can only take you so far, no matter how
powerful or secret you think that meditation is. The information
is
no longer secret so why not arm yourself with all the information
and
technique possible while "they" learn yours.lol


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

The Goetia is not a "psychological tool" and did his "holy"
guardan
angel help him too? And his abusive spiritual actions. And the
kaballah is not one big hyper sigil to know where your mind is
at.lol
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

He used the Goetia as a Psychological Tool and the Kaballah is
just
one big Hyper Sigil that can be used to know where your mind
is
at.
Unless you wanna think that magick is fairy dust and pheonix
feathers,
he's really done nothing that a Jungian hasn't.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

From what I have read of his, he was a user of the jewish
perverted
kabala and used spiritually abusive techniques on the Demons.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

Here's a very well done article on that great magickian by
a
great
magickian. This will be a helpful introduction into the
man
and
his work.

http://www.rawilsonfans.com/articles/GreatBeast.htm

Other than that I can only suggest you read his work and
practice
his
exercises. Book 4 is probably the best one you can get
for
all
things
practical as well as Liber E for daily exercises. You can
find
most
of his work online at http://www.hermetic.com/ but it's
never
any
substitute for the printed work. There is much out there
on
Crowley,
you just need to look for it.

Study, practice and advance. This is war ladies and
gentlemen;
let's
usher in a new aeon.
 
You sound like a Christian. As for being "Jew Blasphemy", who said
you ever need to put yourself into a Jewish paradigm to use the
Kaballah, it's just another frame. Hell I could insert the cast of
Rocky Horror into the Sephira if I wanted and it would still serve my
purposes. Also, these things only become abusive or offensive to the
Demon's if you use them as such. The same principle goes for a power
drill, I can either use it to make something or to trepenate my
neighbor against their will. Now to say something is inherently
Blasphemous, well do you use the Enochian Keys from the JOS website?
Do some of your "research" on those. I've yet to ever perform a
blasphemous act no matter how far out into the sphere of things I've
gone. I take the dedication I made many years ago very serious.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@... wrote:
Um....your talking to yourself here, the jew kabala is filled with
jew blasphemy of all kinds against Father Satan and the Demons.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

You talk to me as a newcomer about these things. I propose you
study
these techniques further, notice I didn't say use, before you pass
blind judgment on what they are and are not. Try all you want at
being a spiritual warrior, but if you never learn how to use the
reason of the sword then you'll be trying to juice a rock this
entire
time. I suggest you don't believe all the legends, hype and half
cocked new age bigotries about these systems and learn how to think
for yourself. However if a closed mind and absolute certainty is
your
idea of thinking for yourself as a Satanist then by all means stay
in
the dark puppet666.lol

Also do you really think a man who so hated Christianity as Crowley
would believe in the literal term "Holy Guardian Angel?" To him it
was considered a combination of the Self and Not-Self, or
integration
of the Subconscious and Group Minds. He did acknowledge the
possibility of it being a higher intelligence; but if you actually
read Liber al vel Legis which was transcribed from this state then
upon finishing it it's obviously very militant against Christianity
and all other such monastic religions. Hell it even talks about
killing Christ, Allah and pecking out the eyes of the Buddha. Now
if
the warlike sentiment of his higher intelligence or HGA isn't of
Father than I don't know what is "mageus"666. The public called
the
man a Satanist, you call him a Jewish Mystic. He was just a man
with
a limited 1900's magic tool box and he did what he could with
it.lol

Daily power meditations can only take you so far, no matter how
powerful or secret you think that meditation is. The information
is
no longer secret so why not arm yourself with all the information
and
technique possible while "they" learn yours.lol


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

The Goetia is not a "psychological tool" and did his "holy"
guardan
angel help him too? And his abusive spiritual actions. And the
kaballah is not one big hyper sigil to know where your mind is
at.lol

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

He used the Goetia as a Psychological Tool and the Kaballah is
just
one big Hyper Sigil that can be used to know where your mind
is
at.
Unless you wanna think that magick is fairy dust and pheonix
feathers,
he's really done nothing that a Jungian hasn't.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

From what I have read of his, he was a user of the jewish
perverted
kabala and used spiritually abusive techniques on the Demons.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

Here's a very well done article on that great magickian by
a
great
magickian. This will be a helpful introduction into the
man
and
his work.

http://www.rawilsonfans.com/articles/GreatBeast.htm

Other than that I can only suggest you read his work and
practice
his
exercises. Book 4 is probably the best one you can get
for
all
things
practical as well as Liber E for daily exercises. You can
find
most
of his work online at http://www.hermetic.com/ but it's
never
any
substitute for the printed work. There is much out there
on
Crowley,
you just need to look for it.

Study, practice and advance. This is war ladies and
gentlemen;
let's
usher in a new aeon.
 
wtf.... my thoughts n ths ... yes he has a point n he editatins hey
nly take o ar. but until i fn hat there s or. well.. that s all
ave. so i' indee mpotant o ee n howevr i do not agee ih ll crowly's
things. from hat i ave read he umoned one f te emonsin a way ich
stotly blasphemis ad wrong. wh n he hel claims to av power ve an
entity hat oes nt liveamon s. but as more poer hn hat f he astr nd ho
in thei right ind ays hey have prtection ro he hevins

hail
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@... wrote:
Um....your talking to yourself here, the jew kabala is filled with
jew blasphemy of all kinds against Father Satan and the Demons.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

You talk to me as a newcomer about these things. I propose you
study
these techniques further, notice I didn't say use, before you pass
blind judgment on what they are and are not. Try all you want at
being a spiritual warrior, but if you never learn how to use the
reason of the sword then you'll be trying to juice a rock this
entire
time. I suggest you don't believe all the legends, hype and half
cocked new age bigotries about these systems and learn how to
think
for yourself. However if a closed mind and absolute certainty is
your
idea of thinking for yourself as a Satanist then by all means
stay
in
the dark puppet666.lol

Also do you really think a man who so hated Christianity as
Crowley
would believe in the literal term "Holy Guardian Angel?" To him
it
was considered a combination of the Self and Not-Self, or
integration
of the Subconscious and Group Minds. He did acknowledge the
possibility of it being a higher intelligence; but if you actually
read Liber al vel Legis which was transcribed from this state then
upon finishing it it's obviously very militant against
Christianity
and all other such monastic religions. Hell it even talks about
killing Christ, Allah and pecking out the eyes of the Buddha.
Now
if
the warlike sentiment of his higher intelligence or HGA isn't of
Father than I don't know what is "mageus"666. The public called
the
man a Satanist, you call him a Jewish Mystic. He was just a man
with
a limited 1900's magic tool box and he did what he could with
it.lol

Daily power meditations can only take you so far, no matter how
powerful or secret you think that meditation is. The information
is
no longer secret so why not arm yourself with all the information
and
technique possible while "they" learn yours.lol


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

The Goetia is not a "psychological tool" and did his "holy"
guardan
angel help him too? And his abusive spiritual actions. And the
kaballah is not one big hyper sigil to know where your mind is
at.lol

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

He used the Goetia as a Psychological Tool and the Kaballah
is
just
one big Hyper Sigil that can be used to know where your mind
is
at.
Unless you wanna think that magick is fairy dust and pheonix
feathers,
he's really done nothing that a Jungian hasn't.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

From what I have read of his, he was a user of the jewish
perverted
kabala and used spiritually abusive techniques on the
Demons.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

Here's a very well done article on that great magickian
by
a
great
magickian. This will be a helpful introduction into the
man
and
his work.

http://www.rawilsonfans.com/articles/GreatBeast.htm

Other than that I can only suggest you read his work and
practice
his
exercises. Book 4 is probably the best one you can get
for
all
things
practical as well as Liber E for daily exercises. You
can
find
most
of his work online at http://www.hermetic.com/ but it's
never
any
substitute for the printed work. There is much out there
on
Crowley,
you just need to look for it.

Study, practice and advance. This is war ladies and
gentlemen;
let's
usher in a new aeon.
 
Your typing out your ass here.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@... wrote:
You sound like a Christian. As for being "Jew Blasphemy", who said
you ever need to put yourself into a Jewish paradigm to use the
Kaballah, it's just another frame. Hell I could insert the cast of
Rocky Horror into the Sephira if I wanted and it would still serve
my
purposes. Also, these things only become abusive or offensive to
the
Demon's if you use them as such. The same principle goes for a
power
drill, I can either use it to make something or to trepenate my
neighbor against their will. Now to say something is inherently
Blasphemous, well do you use the Enochian Keys from the JOS
website?
Do some of your "research" on those. I've yet to ever perform a
blasphemous act no matter how far out into the sphere of things
I've
gone. I take the dedication I made many years ago very serious.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

Um....your talking to yourself here, the jew kabala is filled
with
jew blasphemy of all kinds against Father Satan and the Demons.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

You talk to me as a newcomer about these things. I propose
you
study
these techniques further, notice I didn't say use, before you
pass
blind judgment on what they are and are not. Try all you want
at
being a spiritual warrior, but if you never learn how to use
the
reason of the sword then you'll be trying to juice a rock this
entire
time. I suggest you don't believe all the legends, hype and
half
cocked new age bigotries about these systems and learn how to
think
for yourself. However if a closed mind and absolute certainty
is
your
idea of thinking for yourself as a Satanist then by all means
stay
in
the dark puppet666.lol

Also do you really think a man who so hated Christianity as
Crowley
would believe in the literal term "Holy Guardian Angel?" To
him it
was considered a combination of the Self and Not-Self, or
integration
of the Subconscious and Group Minds. He did acknowledge the
possibility of it being a higher intelligence; but if you
actually
read Liber al vel Legis which was transcribed from this state
then
upon finishing it it's obviously very militant against
Christianity
and all other such monastic religions. Hell it even talks
about
killing Christ, Allah and pecking out the eyes of the Buddha.
Now
if
the warlike sentiment of his higher intelligence or HGA isn't
of
Father than I don't know what is "mageus"666. The public
called
the
man a Satanist, you call him a Jewish Mystic. He was just a
man
with
a limited 1900's magic tool box and he did what he could with
it.lol

Daily power meditations can only take you so far, no matter how
powerful or secret you think that meditation is. The
information
is
no longer secret so why not arm yourself with all the
information
and
technique possible while "they" learn yours.lol


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

The Goetia is not a "psychological tool" and did his "holy"
guardan
angel help him too? And his abusive spiritual actions. And
the
kaballah is not one big hyper sigil to know where your mind
is
at.lol

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

He used the Goetia as a Psychological Tool and the
Kaballah is
just
one big Hyper Sigil that can be used to know where your
mind
is
at.
Unless you wanna think that magick is fairy dust and
pheonix
feathers,
he's really done nothing that a Jungian hasn't.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

From what I have read of his, he was a user of the
jewish
perverted
kabala and used spiritually abusive techniques on the
Demons.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

Here's a very well done article on that great
magickian by
a
great
magickian. This will be a helpful introduction into
the
man
and
his work.

http://www.rawilsonfans.com/articles/GreatBeast.htm

Other than that I can only suggest you read his work
and
practice
his
exercises. Book 4 is probably the best one you can
get
for
all
things
practical as well as Liber E for daily exercises. You
can
find
most
of his work online at http://www.hermetic.com/ but
it's
never
any
substitute for the printed work. There is much out
there
on
Crowley,
you just need to look for it.

Study, practice and advance. This is war ladies and
gentlemen;
let's
usher in a new aeon.
 
What?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kanemohrra Mortismeir"
<kanemohrra666@... wrote:
wtf.... my thoughts n ths ... yes he has a point n he editatins hey
nly take o ar. but until i fn hat there s or. well.. that s all
ave. so i' indee mpotant o ee n howevr i do not agee ih ll crowly's
things. from hat i ave read he umoned one f te emonsin a way ich
stotly blasphemis ad wrong. wh n he hel claims to av power ve an
entity hat oes nt liveamon s. but as more poer hn hat f he astr nd ho
in thei right ind ays hey have prtection ro he hevins

hail
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

Um....your talking to yourself here, the jew kabala is filled with
jew blasphemy of all kinds against Father Satan and the Demons.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

You talk to me as a newcomer about these things. I propose you
study
these techniques further, notice I didn't say use, before you pass
blind judgment on what they are and are not. Try all you want at
being a spiritual warrior, but if you never learn how to use the
reason of the sword then you'll be trying to juice a rock this
entire
time. I suggest you don't believe all the legends, hype and half
cocked new age bigotries about these systems and learn how to
think
for yourself. However if a closed mind and absolute certainty is
your
idea of thinking for yourself as a Satanist then by all means
stay
in
the dark puppet666.lol

Also do you really think a man who so hated Christianity as
Crowley
would believe in the literal term "Holy Guardian Angel?" To him
it
was considered a combination of the Self and Not-Self, or
integration
of the Subconscious and Group Minds. He did acknowledge the
possibility of it being a higher intelligence; but if you actually
read Liber al vel Legis which was transcribed from this state then
upon finishing it it's obviously very militant against
Christianity
and all other such monastic religions. Hell it even talks about
killing Christ, Allah and pecking out the eyes of the Buddha.
Now
if
the warlike sentiment of his higher intelligence or HGA isn't of
Father than I don't know what is "mageus"666. The public called
the
man a Satanist, you call him a Jewish Mystic. He was just a man
with
a limited 1900's magic tool box and he did what he could with
it.lol

Daily power meditations can only take you so far, no matter how
powerful or secret you think that meditation is. The information
is
no longer secret so why not arm yourself with all the information
and
technique possible while "they" learn yours.lol


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

The Goetia is not a "psychological tool" and did his "holy"
guardan
angel help him too? And his abusive spiritual actions. And the
kaballah is not one big hyper sigil to know where your mind is
at.lol

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

He used the Goetia as a Psychological Tool and the Kaballah
is
just
one big Hyper Sigil that can be used to know where your mind
is
at.
Unless you wanna think that magick is fairy dust and pheonix
feathers,
he's really done nothing that a Jungian hasn't.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

From what I have read of his, he was a user of the jewish
perverted
kabala and used spiritually abusive techniques on the
Demons.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

Here's a very well done article on that great magickian
by
a
great
magickian. This will be a helpful introduction into the
man
and
his work.

http://www.rawilsonfans.com/articles/GreatBeast.htm

Other than that I can only suggest you read his work and
practice
his
exercises. Book 4 is probably the best one you can get
for
all
things
practical as well as Liber E for daily exercises. You
can
find
most
of his work online at http://www.hermetic.com/ but it's
never
any
substitute for the printed work. There is much out there
on
Crowley,
you just need to look for it.

Study, practice and advance. This is war ladies and
gentlemen;
let's
usher in a new aeon.
 
Crowley's whole philosophy was "do what thou wilt", meaning find your
true will or purpose and use every means necessary to achieve it. We
all as Satanists should make that our goal as well.

We all could be some of the blind masses and spiritually dead but we're
not. Father put us here and open our eyes. And we should repay that by
fulfilling his goal for our lives.

As for Crowley's 'Holy Guardian Angel', we need to remember that Crowley
did have a twisted sense of humor and most of his writtings are from a
sarcastic point of view. Its not inconcievable that Crowley called his
shadow self or unconcious a "Holy Guardian Angel' out of irony.

I'm sure all of us can find something useful in Crowley writings. Look
past the 'Jewish gribble' and use of it what you can. Remember we have
to use every tool available to us. We can't allow the enemy's
corruption to take any advantage away from us. And after all, an open
mind is what truly seperates us from our enemy.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@... wrote:
Here's a very well done article on that great magickian by a great
magickian. This will be a helpful introduction into the man and his
work.
http://www.rawilsonfans.com/articles/GreatBeast.htm

Other than that I can only suggest you read his work and practice his
exercises. Book 4 is probably the best one you can get for all things
practical as well as Liber E for daily exercises. You can find most
of his work online at http://www.hermetic.com/ but it's never any
substitute for the printed work. There is much out there on Crowley,
you just need to look for it.

Study, practice and advance. This is war ladies and gentlemen; let's
usher in a new aeon.
 
ok my program is working.
so i'll make this short and sweet.
this topic is old.
in fact,
fine i'll put my 2 sense in.
crowley, was a human man who was exploring the secrets of the
supernatural the only way he knew how.
i do not think he was christian but nor do i think is any type of
satanist.
i've read about how he summoned a demon and i would say that is not
how we would do it.
nor is it how u should do it.
i'm surprised, he didn't die at that moment.
lol , now a days we don't take such things lying down.
in other words insult us and we're going to rip u in half.
espetially with that holly bull crap i have power bla bla bla....
he was using a christian summoning to make a demon do it's bidding.
but he didn't do that much white magic eighther.
some of his mind techniques are the only thing i see value of.
to be frank.
my oppinon is he's a metaling human who doesn't exactly know what he
wants so he's just using what he can find or get his hands on.
that's all, no one ever said there was a spacific way to do things.
just in the aspect of who u are and how u look at it.

ave satanas






--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@... wrote:
Your typing out your ass here.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

You sound like a Christian. As for being "Jew Blasphemy", who
said
you ever need to put yourself into a Jewish paradigm to use the
Kaballah, it's just another frame. Hell I could insert the cast
of
Rocky Horror into the Sephira if I wanted and it would still
serve
my
purposes. Also, these things only become abusive or offensive to
the
Demon's if you use them as such. The same principle goes for a
power
drill, I can either use it to make something or to trepenate my
neighbor against their will. Now to say something is inherently
Blasphemous, well do you use the Enochian Keys from the JOS
website?
Do some of your "research" on those. I've yet to ever perform a
blasphemous act no matter how far out into the sphere of things
I've
gone. I take the dedication I made many years ago very serious.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

Um....your talking to yourself here, the jew kabala is filled
with
jew blasphemy of all kinds against Father Satan and the Demons.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

You talk to me as a newcomer about these things. I propose
you
study
these techniques further, notice I didn't say use, before you
pass
blind judgment on what they are and are not. Try all you
want
at
being a spiritual warrior, but if you never learn how to use
the
reason of the sword then you'll be trying to juice a rock
this
entire
time. I suggest you don't believe all the legends, hype and
half
cocked new age bigotries about these systems and learn how to
think
for yourself. However if a closed mind and absolute
certainty
is
your
idea of thinking for yourself as a Satanist then by all means
stay
in
the dark puppet666.lol

Also do you really think a man who so hated Christianity as
Crowley
would believe in the literal term "Holy Guardian Angel?" To
him it
was considered a combination of the Self and Not-Self, or
integration
of the Subconscious and Group Minds. He did acknowledge the
possibility of it being a higher intelligence; but if you
actually
read Liber al vel Legis which was transcribed from this state
then
upon finishing it it's obviously very militant against
Christianity
and all other such monastic religions. Hell it even talks
about
killing Christ, Allah and pecking out the eyes of the
Buddha.
Now
if
the warlike sentiment of his higher intelligence or HGA isn't
of
Father than I don't know what is "mageus"666. The public
called
the
man a Satanist, you call him a Jewish Mystic. He was just a
man
with
a limited 1900's magic tool box and he did what he could with
it.lol

Daily power meditations can only take you so far, no matter
how
powerful or secret you think that meditation is. The
information
is
no longer secret so why not arm yourself with all the
information
and
technique possible while "they" learn yours.lol


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

The Goetia is not a "psychological tool" and did his "holy"
guardan
angel help him too? And his abusive spiritual actions. And
the
kaballah is not one big hyper sigil to know where your mind
is
at.lol

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

He used the Goetia as a Psychological Tool and the
Kaballah is
just
one big Hyper Sigil that can be used to know where your
mind
is
at.
Unless you wanna think that magick is fairy dust and
pheonix
feathers,
he's really done nothing that a Jungian hasn't.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "mageson666"
<mageson666@ wrote:

From what I have read of his, he was a user of the
jewish
perverted
kabala and used spiritually abusive techniques on the
Demons.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Zir Ipol"
<five17o.f23swords@ wrote:

Here's a very well done article on that great
magickian by
a
great
magickian. This will be a helpful introduction into
the
man
and
his work.

http://www.rawilsonfans.com/articles/GreatBeast.htm

Other than that I can only suggest you read his work
and
practice
his
exercises. Book 4 is probably the best one you can
get
for
all
things
practical as well as Liber E for daily exercises.
You
can
find
most
of his work online at http://www.hermetic.com/ but
it's
never
any
substitute for the printed work. There is much out
there
on
Crowley,
you just need to look for it.

Study, practice and advance. This is war ladies and
gentlemen;
let's
usher in a new aeon.
 
I am interested in this thread. I have never been into Crowley. I
read some of his writings which IMO are extremely boring. This is
just my own opinion, I am not out to offend anyone here and my own
convictions are use whatever works.

I am interested here for those of you who stand by Crowley, how have
his teachings advanced you? What have you obtained in the way of
power and from your workings? What have you achieved through applying
the teachings of Crowley?

Now, my own opinion and this is just my opinion here is I do admire
Crowley for his pioneering efforts at a time when occult knowledge
was scarce and xianity ruled. He wrote many books.
I was skimming through some of my pdf books the last few nights and
sorting them. I skimmed throough several of Crowley's books and found
many things objectionable.

Much of his teachings focus on jewish mysticism and the jewish
kabalah.
The "yod heh vau heh" this is obvious a hoax given to the public, for
any words with REAL power, one will say them or vibrate them and
seriously *feel* the power. In addition, the 2 H's are off because
the four corners/four elements and four quarters of the soul are all
distinctly different and with the real word of power, all four
letters should be different.

666 has been sadly misinterpreted due to xian stupidity and
corruption of the meaning. All of the occult legends and even the
twisted and corrupted xian book of revelation (which was stolen from
Thoth) focus on an ending. This is not the end of the world, but a
transformation for humanity. This all has to do with the opening of
the soul. We have 555, 666, 777 and 888. Humanity will evolve and
transform spiritually (whoever survives the so-called "apocalypse").

This can be seen in the Enochian tablets which are codes for opening
the soul- the 7x7 chakras. The four quarters within each tablet. As
for the the triple numbers, these are a sequence. Xians are totally
deluded and foolish as they have no idea of the true meaning of the
888, which in the Greek gematria is the witchpower. Thoth, Astaroth
and Sigil of the Beast are all numbered 8. As I have mentioned before-
the nazarene is a code-word for the witch-power, and nothing more.

The jewish kabalah and anything jewish for that matter is filled with
outright lies and corruptions. I have done my studying. Their real
secrets are right before our eyes when we open our souls enough to
see. You won't find any of this in what they make public and on the
internet. Only their high ups know the truth. There is power in the
hexagram when properly used and directed towards specific ends and
aligned with the day, the chakra and the hour.

Now, I did not write this to start an argument. I don't have any time
for that sort of thing anymore. I say use whatever works and to each
his own on this matter. I was just curious as to what any of you have
accomplished using Crowley's teachings.
 
I've worked with a lot of systems over the years and yours and his
have produced the greatest progress in my magnum opus. I think the
most useful part about Crowley's system or any western hermetic system
is the emphasis it puts upon work. Here's an excerpt from an A.A.
book I've been studying from recently(The Probationer's Handbook: A
Manual Of Instruction for the Student Of The A.A.) that puts it best:

"Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.
Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb.
Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts.
Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent."

Now when you apply this formula to magickal practice it produces
amazing result.

As for the formulas steeped in Jewish mumbo-jumbo, that's just the
flavor of the time in my opinion. A paradigm like anything else.
Above all Crowley was a scientist and the systems he uses are fairly
plug and play as long as you can produce results with them. For the
Lesser Rituals of the Pentagram I use different wording, thought-forms
and divinities. The same can apply for the Kaballah. For proof just
look at most Neo-Pagan rituals then look at a Western Hermetic ritual.
It's the same thing with different words and god forms. Remember
this is a science: Alchemy produced Chemistry, Goetia produced Psychology.

The rite of the Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel,
or higher genius or what ever you want to call it (hell even Knowledge
and Conversation of the Boogie Man would work), as well the Goetia
provided with it are originated off of an Egyptian system if you look
at the books history provided by the writer. However this could be
very false since it's a major trend in Grimories of that age and even
of this age to provide a "history" of how the book came into being.
Even then the writer admits, even if a fiction, he changed the system
from an Egyptian paradigm to a Jewish one. This shouldn't devalue it
any however since as long as the system works with "whatever"
cosmology you want to use then who cares, good job.

However the things I find have progressed my work the furthest have
been the exercises in Liber E, his discourse on the 8-fold path of
yoga in Magic in Theory and Practice, the cosmology in "The Book of
the Law" and many of the other exercises and works you can dig out of
his dry writing. "The Book of Thoth" is a very useful guide to the
symbolism of the Tarot. "The Book of Lies" is a great mindfuck to
produce quantum thinking. There is much more wheat than chaff in his
writing.

Even getting through his writing is a Gurdjieff exercise in itself.

I'm also not trying to split hairs here but the phrase "Do what thou
Will" means a very different thing that do what you want. A lot of
members of the O.T.O. sufferer from this distinction which makes it
not so desirable to join.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "High Priestess Maxine
Dietrich" <maxinedietrich@... wrote:
I am interested in this thread. I have never been into Crowley. I
read some of his writings which IMO are extremely boring. This is
just my own opinion, I am not out to offend anyone here and my own
convictions are use whatever works.

I am interested here for those of you who stand by Crowley, how have
his teachings advanced you? What have you obtained in the way of
power and from your workings? What have you achieved through applying
the teachings of Crowley?

Now, my own opinion and this is just my opinion here is I do admire
Crowley for his pioneering efforts at a time when occult knowledge
was scarce and xianity ruled. He wrote many books.
I was skimming through some of my pdf books the last few nights and
sorting them. I skimmed throough several of Crowley's books and found
many things objectionable.

Much of his teachings focus on jewish mysticism and the jewish
kabalah.
The "yod heh vau heh" this is obvious a hoax given to the public, for
any words with REAL power, one will say them or vibrate them and
seriously *feel* the power. In addition, the 2 H's are off because
the four corners/four elements and four quarters of the soul are all
distinctly different and with the real word of power, all four
letters should be different.

666 has been sadly misinterpreted due to xian stupidity and
corruption of the meaning. All of the occult legends and even the
twisted and corrupted xian book of revelation (which was stolen from
Thoth) focus on an ending. This is not the end of the world, but a
transformation for humanity. This all has to do with the opening of
the soul. We have 555, 666, 777 and 888. Humanity will evolve and
transform spiritually (whoever survives the so-called "apocalypse").

This can be seen in the Enochian tablets which are codes for opening
the soul- the 7x7 chakras. The four quarters within each tablet. As
for the the triple numbers, these are a sequence. Xians are totally
deluded and foolish as they have no idea of the true meaning of the
888, which in the Greek gematria is the witchpower. Thoth, Astaroth
and Sigil of the Beast are all numbered 8. As I have mentioned before-
the nazarene is a code-word for the witch-power, and nothing more.

The jewish kabalah and anything jewish for that matter is filled with
outright lies and corruptions. I have done my studying. Their real
secrets are right before our eyes when we open our souls enough to
see. You won't find any of this in what they make public and on the
internet. Only their high ups know the truth. There is power in the
hexagram when properly used and directed towards specific ends and
aligned with the day, the chakra and the hour.

Now, I did not write this to start an argument. I don't have any time
for that sort of thing anymore. I say use whatever works and to each
his own on this matter. I was just curious as to what any of you have
accomplished using Crowley's teachings.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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