just a some things on my mind.

[nevinbennetch]

Should I summon Satan? I am dedicated and want to know if I should summon him once just to greet him? And another thing is about the don't doubt yourself in the magic workings. How do I not doubt myself? I can't help it. It is just this thought that keeps popping up in my head. "Who am I kidding? I can't influence others with my mind" or stuff like "yeah this isn't going to work". I just don't know how to fix that part of myself.

 

[James Makela]

Satan and Lilith are not to be summoned. They will come to you if they want too.

Hail Satan

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On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:50 AM, "nevinbennetch" <nevinbennetch@... wrote:

Should I summon Satan? I am dedicated and want to know if I should summon him once just to greet him? And another thing is about the don't doubt yourself in the magic workings. How do I not doubt myself? I can't help it. It is just this thought that keeps popping up in my head. "Who am I kidding? I can't influence others with my mind" or stuff like "yeah this isn't going to work". I just don't know how to fix that part of myself.



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[darrklady13]

Actually James, I believe it is JUST Lilith, not Lord Satan.

If we want him to, ask him to, eventually he will show himself to us or those who haven't seen him revealed in the astral mind yet.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], James Makela <amaracer113@... wrote:

Satan and Lilith are not to be summoned. They will come to you if they want too.

Hail Satan

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:50 AM, "nevinbennetch" <nevinbennetch@... wrote:

Should I summon Satan? I am dedicated and want to know if I should summon him once just to greet him? And another thing is about the don't doubt yourself in the magic workings. How do I not doubt myself? I can't help it. It is just this thought that keeps popping up in my head. "Who am I kidding? I can't influence others with my mind" or stuff like "yeah this isn't going to work". I just don't know how to fix that part of myself.



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[enemyofjezzuz]

I wouldn't bother wasting Satan's time summoning Him simply to greet
Him. Instead, do a ritual for the purpose of acknowledging Him and His
high position. Showing off is a waste of Demon time that otherwise
could be spent on doing something that would be more helpful or that
could be used to destroy the enemy.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "darrklady13" <darkladyschild@...
wrote:

Actually James, I believe it is JUST Lilith, not Lord Satan.

If we want him to, ask him to, eventually he will show himself to us

or those who haven't seen him revealed in the astral mind yet.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], James Makela amaracer113@ wrote:

Satan and Lilith are not to be summoned. They will come to you if

they want too.

Hail Satan

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:50 AM, "nevinbennetch" nevinbennetch@ wrote:

Should I summon Satan? I am dedicated and want to know if I should

summon him once just to greet him? And another thing is about the don't
doubt yourself in the magic workings. How do I not doubt myself? I can't
help it. It is just this thought that keeps popping up in my head. "Who
am I kidding? I can't influence others with my mind" or stuff like "yeah
this isn't going to work". I just don't know how to fix that part of
myself.

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[James Makela]

Its been my understanding that you don't summon Satan or Lilith. If you ask Satan or Lilith for help then they will show you by unseen means if you aren't astrally open to see or hear them. I'm pretty positive that I have read this on the site or in the group. I'm going to double check.

Hail Satan

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 27, 2012, at 11:35 AM, "darrklady13" <darkladyschild@... wrote:

Actually James, I believe it is JUST Lilith, not Lord Satan.

If we want him to, ask him to, eventually he will show himself to us or those who haven't seen him revealed in the astral mind yet.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], James Makela <amaracer113@... wrote:

Satan and Lilith are not to be summoned. They will come to you if they want too.

Hail Satan

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:50 AM, "nevinbennetch" <nevinbennetch@... wrote:

Should I summon Satan? I am dedicated and want to know if I should summon him once just to greet him? And another thing is about the don't doubt yourself in the magic workings. How do I not doubt myself? I can't help it. It is just this thought that keeps popping up in my head. "Who am I kidding? I can't influence others with my mind" or stuff like "yeah this isn't going to work". I just don't know how to fix that part of myself.



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[Anand Bon]

Do Not Summon Him,Just to Greet him, If you want to Greet him,Just Think in Your Mind of your Greetings Regarding HIM or any other God,You will be heard and a Response will come by,Confidence in Your Power will be corrected in time when you advance yourself,Seeing the results will correct this issue. Goodluck
From: nevinbennetch <nevinbennetch@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 10:50 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] just a some things on my mind.

  Should I summon Satan? I am dedicated and want to know if I should summon him once just to greet him? And another thing is about the don't doubt yourself in the magic workings. How do I not doubt myself? I can't help it. It is just this thought that keeps popping up in my head. "Who am I kidding? I can't influence others with my mind" or stuff like "yeah this isn't going to work". I just don't know how to fix that part of myself.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Talk to that part of yours, see what it wants to do, what's it's positive interest. Obviously it tries to protect you of something. Then offer it an alternative way of doing that instead of doubting things which will cause your working to not work. Sounds silly,but it works.

And as others said, we don't summon Satan. All we do to Him is rituals, prayers and other things.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "nevinbennetch" <nevinbennetch@... wrote:

Should I summon Satan? I am dedicated and want to know if I should summon him once just to greet him? And another thing is about the don't doubt yourself in the magic workings. How do I not doubt myself? I can't help it. It is just this thought that keeps popping up in my head. "Who am I kidding? I can't influence others with my mind" or stuff like "yeah this isn't going to work". I just don't know how to fix that part of myself.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

you can do a standard ritual and write on a piece of paper what you want to say like when you put a request but your dedication and greeting

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "nevinbennetch" <nevinbennetch@... wrote:

Should I summon Satan? I am dedicated and want to know if I should summon him once just to greet him? And another thing is about the don't doubt yourself in the magic workings. How do I not doubt myself? I can't help it. It is just this thought that keeps popping up in my head. "Who am I kidding? I can't influence others with my mind" or stuff like "yeah this isn't going to work". I just don't know how to fix that part of myself.

 

[spencerlfa]

I don't think it's the best of the ideas simply because Satan is extremely busy as far as I know. But it's up to you, he will eventually go to YOU when you are READY.

Ave SATANI and our GODS

 

[abraham172]

Brother

Father satan will come to you personally and communicate with you. You could also summon him if you want a conversation with him

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], James Makela <amaracer113@... wrote:

Its been my understanding that you don't summon Satan or Lilith. If you ask Satan or Lilith for help then they will show you by unseen means if you aren't astrally open to see or hear them. I'm pretty positive that I have read this on the site or in the group. I'm going to double check.

Hail Satan

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 27, 2012, at 11:35 AM, "darrklady13" <darkladyschild@... wrote:

Actually James, I believe it is JUST Lilith, not Lord Satan.

If we want him to, ask him to, eventually he will show himself to us or those who haven't seen him revealed in the astral mind yet.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], James Makela <amaracer113@ wrote:

Satan and Lilith are not to be summoned. They will come to you if they want too.

Hail Satan

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:50 AM, "nevinbennetch" <nevinbennetch@ wrote:

Should I summon Satan? I am dedicated and want to know if I should summon him once just to greet him? And another thing is about the don't doubt yourself in the magic workings. How do I not doubt myself? I can't help it. It is just this thought that keeps popping up in my head. "Who am I kidding? I can't influence others with my mind" or stuff like "yeah this isn't going to work". I just don't know how to fix that part of myself.



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[nevinbennetch]

It was never my intention to offend Father Satan by using the word summon. I just saw the word summon on the JoS site a few times and assumed that was how calling out to the gods was phrased. It does make more sense to use invoke. Thank you to all who have answered


HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "seshet.maat" <seshet.maat@... wrote:

I don't agree with the word 'summoning'. The word usually indicates that a higher authority has commanded it to happen and that there isn't much choice involved in the matter. You get summoned by courts and kings, so for us to say we summon our elder gods is absentmindedly disrespectful in my mind.

Communicate with all the Gods, especially Father Satan, with the utmost respect, sincerity and gratitude. If you wish to see them or hear from them, ask. Then wait. Show respect in your actions and understand that not all demons are the same in how they prefer to be approached, but all will appreciate that you show respect. I think sometimes people forget we're dealing with our creators and guardians, who are so much older than we are. Yet people are quick to have 'fan boy/girl' episodes over human actors and singers in this realm.

I believe 'invoke' is a better term to use, as it shows respect, not arrogance. But I digress. In the case of Father Satan, rather communicate with him telepathically and remember that answers/replies are sometimes indirect and manifest through events rather than direct communication.

 

[Celina]

I also don't care for the word 'summon' in this instance. It makes me think of being summoned to court or someone is demanding something of me. However, that's just my personal feelings. I don't really see others as being disrespectful just for using the word. If that were the case I highly doubt HPS Maxine would have written that on the site. Just my 2 cents.

HAIL SATAN!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "seshet.maat" <seshet.maat@... wrote:

I don't agree with the word 'summoning'. The word usually indicates that a higher authority has commanded it to happen and that there isn't much choice involved in the matter. You get summoned by courts and kings, so for us to say we summon our elder gods is absentmindedly disrespectful in my mind.

Communicate with all the Gods, especially Father Satan, with the utmost respect, sincerity and gratitude. If you wish to see them or hear from them, ask. Then wait. Show respect in your actions and understand that not all demons are the same in how they prefer to be approached, but all will appreciate that you show respect. I think sometimes people forget we're dealing with our creators and guardians, who are so much older than we are. Yet people are quick to have 'fan boy/girl' episodes over human actors and singers in this realm.

I believe 'invoke' is a better term to use, as it shows respect, not arrogance. But I digress. In the case of Father Satan, rather communicate with him telepathically and remember that answers/replies are sometimes indirect and manifest through events rather than direct communication.