Invoking The Element Water, In water.

[whatshisface117]

Well the Subject pretty much speaks for itself, but regardless,

What do you guys think would happen if I invoked the element of water while I was in water?, A.E; a pool, lake, bath-tub...ect..ect.

Would this amplify the invoking process? Do nothing?

I'm just curious, I suppose the same goes for invoking any of the elements while a large quantity of them surround you nearby. Sitting around lots of dirt for Earth, being near a large fire or just a plain fire for invoking Fire, and being near alot of air currents like somewhere very windy or near a fan for Air.


Thanks in advance!
-Hail Father, Lord Satan!

 

[Will LoveLaw]

 

[Dominic Wolfheart]

I did it while I was in the ocean before...very powerful

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "whatshisface117" <whatshisface1117@... wrote:

Well the Subject pretty much speaks for itself, but regardless,

What do you guys think would happen if I invoked the element of water while I was in water?, A.E; a pool, lake, bath-tub...ect..ect.

Would this amplify the invoking process? Do nothing?

I'm just curious, I suppose the same goes for invoking any of the elements while a large quantity of them surround you nearby. Sitting around lots of dirt for Earth, being near a large fire or just a plain fire for invoking Fire, and being near alot of air currents like somewhere very windy or near a fan for Air.


Thanks in advance!
-Hail Father, Lord Satan!

 

[acid312]

In regards to Satanism not being a reactionary religion to xianity, you can see it from Spiritual Satanism's truths. We don't believe that their "god" or "jesus" are real or that the bible is correct. Both "god" and "jesus" are STOLEN from Pagan/Satanic alchemical concepts that predated xianity and made into real beings in the bible. The bible is also a rip-off from ancient Pagan texts and occult concepts and is a load of bullshit full of contradictions and absurdities. See this site about all those:

http://www.exposingchristianity.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Will LoveLaw <willlovelaw@... wrote:

Here is a better formed question than my last:
 
I have a few questions:  I have been a practicing occultist for years, mostly of the Thelemic current.  I am seemingly being drawn to the Luciferian path more each day as I see Jewish and Christian elements too prevalent in the Golden Dawn and Thelemic Currents.  I see that the 3 Abrahamic religions have demonized our former religions and paths and turned most people away from them but I also see that there is a great desire among many to return to their roots, ie. Paganism. 
 
We say that Satanism is not just a reactionary inversion of Christianity but I am trying to define this in logical terms.  What do we have to back up this philosophy?
 
Also, many Luciferians/Satanists claim to be reconstructing ancient paganism and satanism and trace it back prior to Christianity and Judaism.  Where do we find this in scholastic history?
 
I am looking for a practical system which works outside of the Jewish/Christian influences of GD style Kabbalah and Yod-he-vav-heh type of God-names and Christian Goetia.  I mean, how am I supposed to invoke the Christian/Jewish God in order to summon and work with demons if I consider Yahveh the adversary?
 
Thanks for your help,
 
-William

 

[acid312]

To sum it up, christianity is actually a reactionary religion to Satanism/Paganism, not the opposite

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "acid312" <acid312@... wrote:

In regards to Satanism not being a reactionary religion to xianity, you can see it from Spiritual Satanism's truths. We don't believe that their "god" or "jesus" are real or that the bible is correct. Both "god" and "jesus" are STOLEN from Pagan/Satanic alchemical concepts that predated xianity and made into real beings in the bible. The bible is also a rip-off from ancient Pagan texts and occult concepts and is a load of bullshit full of contradictions and absurdities. See this site about all those:

http://www.exposingchristianity.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Will LoveLaw <willlovelaw@ wrote:

Here is a better formed question than my last:
 
I have a few questions:  I have been a practicing occultist for years, mostly of the Thelemic current.  I am seemingly being drawn to the Luciferian path more each day as I see Jewish and Christian elements too prevalent in the Golden Dawn and Thelemic Currents.  I see that the 3 Abrahamic religions have demonized our former religions and paths and turned most people away from them but I also see that there is a great desire among many to return to their roots, ie. Paganism. 
 
We say that Satanism is not just a reactionary inversion of Christianity but I am trying to define this in logical terms.  What do we have to back up this philosophy?
 
Also, many Luciferians/Satanists claim to be reconstructing ancient paganism and satanism and trace it back prior to Christianity and Judaism.  Where do we find this in scholastic history?
 
I am looking for a practical system which works outside of the Jewish/Christian influences of GD style Kabbalah and Yod-he-vav-heh type of God-names and Christian Goetia.  I mean, how am I supposed to invoke the Christian/Jewish God in order to summon and work with demons if I consider Yahveh the adversary?
 
Thanks for your help,
 
-William