scalpedjosh
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I'm just wondering how I can be 100% sure that I've narrowed down the right demon?
No, I mean I cannot figure out who my Guardian Demon is.If you are talking about choosing one, let me remind you that guardian demons choose us and come to us, not the other way around, and the one who does is that which will be best suited for you
hail satan!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Damien" <pyroboy150@... wrote:
I tried the ouija board, and pendulum methods to figure out which guardian demon is attributed to me , but neither exercise has worked, so I was wondering if anyone has any other ideas of a way to figure out their guardian demon or if anyone could or knew of anyone who could possibly do a reading or ask their guardian demon or something for me it would be very much appreciated. Hail Father
On Jan 8, 2010, at 7:57 AM, "wynterwatcher" <wynterwatcher@... wrote:
I too have that problem. I have been doing the meditations, my third eye is open, I have been working on the auditory, pineal, etc., for several months now, but I still cannot get any response from neither pedulum nor ouija. However, I found a method that seems to work for me. Try it, it may help you.
I use a blue candle and incense during a meditation. Make sure your heat/ac/fan is turned off, all windows/doors are closed, and the candle is at least four feet from you. Go into a meditative state and ask that your responses come from the candle flame being flickered/waved. Make sure you are not close enough to be breathing on it yourself. When it comes to learning your GD's name, ask that as you call out each letter in the alphabet, that he/she cause the candle to flicker when you reach the first letter of your GD's name. Repeat the step for the second letter, etc.
This method seems to be the only way I can get answers right now, but it did work for me. I have since learned that my GD's name begins with an E. I am now working to verify this information because the only name I could find so far is Eligos (sp?), which may be my GD.
Not much of a method, but until I am stronger for communication through a ouija/pendulum/ meditations, this seems to work for me right now.
Hope it helped, and good luck.
Hail Enki!
--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "Damien" <pyroboy150@ ... wrote:
I tried the ouija board, and pendulum methods to figure out which guardian demon is attributed to me , but neither exercise has worked, so I was wondering if anyone has any other ideas of a way to figure out their guardian demon or if anyone could or knew of anyone who could possibly do a reading or ask their guardian demon or something for me it would be very much appreciated. Hail Father
On Jan 8, 2010, at 12:18 PM, "hardstyle_and_shufflin" <hardstyle_and_shufflin@... wrote:
As someone else had said, we dont choose our guardian demons. THEY choose US. And contrary to whatever you've read on JoS and elsewhere, Satan has came to me personally in the past when I was having the same problem, and told me "You dont always have a guardian demon. Its not guaranteed. " For me, my reason was, no demon had chosen me yet because I hadnt shown full devotion to Spiritual Satanism yet. As I devoted myself more and more to Satan and his teachings, and believed it to be the truth with 0% doubt, i began to notice subtle unexplainable things happening in my daily life. And eventually I realized who it was, etc.
Second, even if you do have a guardian demon, dont count on finding out who it is. Demons do not have to answer to us in anyways, be they your guardian or not. Sometimes their name is irrelevant at the time, and theyll tell you when they see that you are truly devoted to them. For instance I wouldnt want to tell important details about myself to someone, if they are impatient, rude, or any of the like.. They wouldnt be worth my time.
You need to have patience. It could take years for you to find out who your guardian demon is. Patience is KEY.
I think alot of times when new Spiritual Satanists come into Satan's Family, they expect to be given everything with no work involved or without putting in any effort or devotion. Im not saying you are like that, im just throwing that out there.
As for suggestions, meditate, keep meditating, if you cant find your demon now then just lay off for awhile. You may not have one yet, or they might be waiting for you to grow more trained in Satans Teachings.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Damien" <pyroboy150@... wrote:
I tried the ouija board, and pendulum methods to figure out which guardian demon is attributed to me , but neither exercise has worked, so I was wondering if anyone has any other ideas of a way to figure out their guardian demon or if anyone could or knew of anyone who could possibly do a reading or ask their guardian demon or something for me it would be very much appreciated. Hail Father
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "gunslingerscap" <gunslingerscap@... wrote:
If you are talking about choosing one, let me remind you that guardian demons choose us and come to us, not the other way around, and the one who does is that which will be best suited for you
hail satan!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], zero_zoe_zeroet@... wrote:
How do u know of ur past lives? That u have been a satanist, had a guardian and could be already experienced
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Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 12:33:34
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Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Guardian Demon
If You Have Trouble Finding Your Guardian Demon
By Caitlin/Silvercrab
The mistake most new people make is attempting to find their Guardian through a pendulum or Ouija board. If you have absolutely no past experience or practice with these items, they probably wonât work for you. Using a Ouija board or pendulum takes SKILL and PRACTICE. When youâre new, you must be in a trance and completely disconnect yourself from the board or you will end up talking to yourself, which is a very common occurrence. There is also a chance a negative entity might interfere with communication or fool you into believing theyâre a Demon and give you false information. So as you can see, a lot can go wrong here if you arenât already skilled in these areas.
So, how do you find your Guardian? There are many reliable ways, such as Astral Projection, Astral Merging, using a black mirror, or invoking the Demon. But all these are advanced methods which most people are unable to do until they are at least on the intermediate level. So for beginners, here are a few things you can do to narrow down the list.
Go look through ALL the Demons listed on joyofsatan.com, even the âHigh Ranking Gods and Crowned Princes of Hellâ section because hey, you never know. Also, donât forget the section underneath the S - Z Demons titled âMore Godsâ. Not everyoneâs Guardian Demon is going to be one of the 72 Goetic Demons, but that doesnât mean your Guardian is any less special. Pazuzu, for example, is not one of the 72 Goetic Demons, but he is very powerful and is a great protector. Write down the names of the Demons who interest you, the ones you really like. Once you have a complete list of Demons who attract you, apply these tips:
*Your Guardian Demon will usually have the same element(s) as you. When I say that, Iâm not referring to your astrological sign, Iâm referring to the element you love the most. You do not need experience with invoking the elements to figure out which one is your favorite. To read information on each one:Â
Invoking FireÂ
Invoking EarthÂ
Invoking AirÂ
Invoking Water
*Kudos to Reverend Mageson and High Priest Jake Carlson for figuring this one out. The sex of your Guardian is usually dependant on your own sexuality. Meaning, the straight man has a female Guardian, the homosexual man has a male Guardian. Even the most evenly split of bisexuals have a preference. If youâre a bisexual woman who likes other women just a little bit more than men, chances are youâll have a female Guardian. I believe this pattern has to do with what youâre most comfortable with.
Now that youâve narrowed down your list (but please remember that the above tips are not set in stone and might not apply to everyone) ask yourself these questions:
âAm I truly comfortable with the idea of_____________ being my Guardian Demon?â When I was new, there were several Demons I thought looked very cool and kick ass, but when I thought about it after a few days, I realized the idea just didnât feel quite right.
âDo I love absolutely everything about______________?â This is self-explanatory. There may be a Demon that you really like and respect, but if you embrace the idea of him/her as your Guardian and you feel a consistent longing to keep looking at other Demons, then he/she probably isnât the one. When you find your true Guardian, you should feel a strong bond, an unquestioning love. Most people have been with their Guardian in many other lifetimes, which is where that feeling comes from.
And finally, âIs there any reason to believe______________ would not suit me as a Guardian?â Donât just take the information listed about the Demon into account. Youâre probably not going to have everything in common with your Guardian. For example, someone with Bifrons as their Guardian might be very interested in necromancy and astrology, but not in learning the magical properties of herbs and stones. Use your intuition with this question.
By now you should have narrowed down your list to only one or two Demons. Now comes the part where you figure out if He/She is really your Guardian:
Get yourself into a deep trance..Â
Vibrate the name of the Demon 30 - 40 times. (Ex: Amon. A-A-A-A-M-M-M-M-O-O-O-O-N-N-N-N). After a while, you should feel his/her energy. Connect with the Demon as best you can.
Ask_____________ if he/she is your Guardian. You will probably not see or hear anything if you are not psychically open, but you should FEEL their response.. Interpreting energy like this might be difficult at first, and if you donât understand the response, then tell them you donât understand and ask for a stronger signal. If you receive a very warm, positive signal then youâve probably found your Guardian. If not, go back over your list and try again.
BACK TO SERMONS PAGE
BACK TO HOMEPAGE
Â
Cordially,
PRAISE THE Mighty 4 Crowns of Duat!
Knowledge cant be rushed, it is power so you must accept and embrace it.
-High Priest Mac Friday
High Priest Mac Friday
Joy Of Satan Ministries
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HOME.html
________________________________
From: melly <zero_zoe_zeroet@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 11:53 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Guardian Demon
Â
I'm really curious on how u find your guardian demon? And how u can meet him/her and what are the signs?
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "melly" <zero_zoe_zeroet@... wrote:
I'm really curious on how u find your guardian demon? And how u can meet him/her and what are the signs?
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], zero_zoe_zeroet@... wrote:
How do u know of ur past lives? That u have been a satanist, had a guardian and could be already experienced
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-----Original Message-----
From: High Priest Mac Friday <macfriday@...
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 12:33:34
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
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Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Guardian Demon
If You Have Trouble Finding Your Guardian Demon
By Caitlin/Silvercrab
The mistake most new people make is attempting to find their Guardian through a pendulum or Ouija board. If you have absolutely no past experience or practice with these items, they probably won’t work for you. Using a Ouija board or pendulum takes SKILL and PRACTICE. When you’re new, you must be in a trance and completely disconnect yourself from the board or you will end up talking to yourself, which is a very common occurrence. There is also a chance a negative entity might interfere with communication or fool you into believing they’re a Demon and give you false information. So as you can see, a lot can go wrong here if you aren’t already skilled in these areas.
So, how do you find your Guardian? There are many reliable ways, such as Astral Projection, Astral Merging, using a black mirror, or invoking the Demon. But all these are advanced methods which most people are unable to do until they are at least on the intermediate level. So for beginners, here are a few things you can do to narrow down the list.
Go look through ALL the Demons listed on joyofsatan.com, even the “High Ranking Gods and Crowned Princes of Hell” section because hey, you never know. Also, don’t forget the section underneath the S - Z Demons titled “More Gods”. Not everyone’s Guardian Demon is going to be one of the 72 Goetic Demons, but that doesn’t mean your Guardian is any less special. Pazuzu, for example, is not one of the 72 Goetic Demons, but he is very powerful and is a great protector. Write down the names of the Demons who interest you, the ones you really like. Once you have a complete list of Demons who attract you, apply these tips:
*Your Guardian Demon will usually have the same element(s) as you. When I say that, I’m not referring to your astrological sign, I’m referring to the element you love the most. You do not need experience with invoking the elements to figure out which one is your favorite. To read information on each one:
Invoking Fire
Invoking Earth
Invoking Air
Invoking Water
*Kudos to Reverend Mageson and High Priest Jake Carlson for figuring this one out. The sex of your Guardian is usually dependant on your own sexuality. Meaning, the straight man has a female Guardian, the homosexual man has a male Guardian. Even the most evenly split of bisexuals have a preference. If you’re a bisexual woman who likes other women just a little bit more than men, chances are you’ll have a female Guardian. I believe this pattern has to do with what you’re most comfortable with.
Now that you’ve narrowed down your list (but please remember that the above tips are not set in stone and might not apply to everyone) ask yourself these questions:
“Am I truly comfortable with the idea of_____________ being my Guardian Demon?” When I was new, there were several Demons I thought looked very cool and kick ass, but when I thought about it after a few days, I realized the idea just didn’t feel quite right.
“Do I love absolutely everything about______________?” This is self-explanatory. There may be a Demon that you really like and respect, but if you embrace the idea of him/her as your Guardian and you feel a consistent longing to keep looking at other Demons, then he/she probably isn’t the one. When you find your true Guardian, you should feel a strong bond, an unquestioning love. Most people have been with their Guardian in many other lifetimes, which is where that feeling comes from.
And finally, “Is there any reason to believe______________ would not suit me as a Guardian?” Don’t just take the information listed about the Demon into account. You’re probably not going to have everything in common with your Guardian. For example, someone with Bifrons as their Guardian might be very interested in necromancy and astrology, but not in learning the magical properties of herbs and stones. Use your intuition with this question.
By now you should have narrowed down your list to only one or two Demons. Now comes the part where you figure out if He/She is really your Guardian:
Get yourself into a deep trance..
Vibrate the name of the Demon 30 - 40 times. (Ex: Amon. A-A-A-A-M-M-M-M-O-O-O-O-N-N-N-N). After a while, you should feel his/her energy. Connect with the Demon as best you can.
Ask_____________ if he/she is your Guardian. You will probably not see or hear anything if you are not psychically open, but you should FEEL their response.. Interpreting energy like this might be difficult at first, and if you don’t understand the response, then tell them you don’t understand and ask for a stronger signal. If you receive a very warm, positive signal then you’ve probably found your Guardian. If not, go back over your list and try again.
BACK TO SERMONS PAGE
BACK TO HOMEPAGE
Cordially,
PRAISE THE Mighty 4 Crowns of Duat!
Knowledge cant be rushed, it is power so you must accept and embrace it.
-High Priest Mac Friday
High Priest Mac Friday
Joy Of Satan Ministries
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HOME.html
________________________________
From: melly <zero_zoe_zeroet@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 11:53 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Guardian Demon
I'm really curious on how u find your guardian demon? And how u can meet him/her and what are the signs?
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], zero_zoe_zeroet@... wrote:
How do u know of ur past lives? That u have been a satanist, had a guardian and could be already experienced
Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Virgin Mobile.
-----Original Message-----
From: High Priest Mac Friday <macfriday@...
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 12:33:34
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Reply-To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Guardian Demon
If You Have Trouble Finding Your Guardian Demon
By Caitlin/Silvercrab
The mistake most new people make is attempting to find their Guardian through a pendulum or Ouija board. If you have absolutely no past experience or practice with these items, they probably won’t work for you. Using a Ouija board or pendulum takes SKILL and PRACTICE. When you’re new, you must be in a trance and completely disconnect yourself from the board or you will end up talking to yourself, which is a very common occurrence. There is also a chance a negative entity might interfere with communication or fool you into believing they’re a Demon and give you false information. So as you can see, a lot can go wrong here if you aren’t already skilled in these areas.
So, how do you find your Guardian? There are many reliable ways, such as Astral Projection, Astral Merging, using a black mirror, or invoking the Demon. But all these are advanced methods which most people are unable to do until they are at least on the intermediate level. So for beginners, here are a few things you can do to narrow down the list.
Go look through ALL the Demons listed on joyofsatan.com, even the “High Ranking Gods and Crowned Princes of Hell� section because hey, you never know. Also, don’t forget the section underneath the S - Z Demons titled “More Gods�. Not everyone’s Guardian Demon is going to be one of the 72 Goetic Demons, but that doesn’t mean your Guardian is any less special. Pazuzu, for example, is not one of the 72 Goetic Demons, but he is very powerful and is a great protector. Write down the names of the Demons who interest you, the ones you really like. Once you have a complete list of Demons who attract you, apply these tips:
*Your Guardian Demon will usually have the same element(s) as you. When I say that, I’m not referring to your astrological sign, I’m referring to the element you love the most. You do not need experience with invoking the elements to figure out which one is your favorite. To read information on each one:Â
Invoking FireÂ
Invoking EarthÂ
Invoking AirÂ
Invoking Water
*Kudos to Reverend Mageson and High Priest Jake Carlson for figuring this one out. The sex of your Guardian is usually dependant on your own sexuality. Meaning, the straight man has a female Guardian, the homosexual man has a male Guardian. Even the most evenly split of bisexuals have a preference. If you’re a bisexual woman who likes other women just a little bit more than men, chances are you’ll have a female Guardian. I believe this pattern has to do with what you’re most comfortable with.
Now that you’ve narrowed down your list (but please remember that the above tips are not set in stone and might not apply to everyone) ask yourself these questions:
“Am I truly comfortable with the idea of_____________ being my Guardian Demon?� When I was new, there were several Demons I thought looked very cool and kick ass, but when I thought about it after a few days, I realized the idea just didn’t feel quite right.
“Do I love absolutely everything about______________?� This is self-explanatory. There may be a Demon that you really like and respect, but if you embrace the idea of him/her as your Guardian and you feel a consistent longing to keep looking at other Demons, then he/she probably isn’t the one. When you find your true Guardian, you should feel a strong bond, an unquestioning love. Most people have been with their Guardian in many other lifetimes, which is where that feeling comes from.
And finally, “Is there any reason to believe______________ would not suit me as a Guardian?� Don’t just take the information listed about the Demon into account. You’re probably not going to have everything in common with your Guardian. For example, someone with Bifrons as their Guardian might be very interested in necromancy and astrology, but not in learning the magical properties of herbs and stones. Use your intuition with this question.
By now you should have narrowed down your list to only one or two Demons. Now comes the part where you figure out if He/She is really your Guardian:
Get yourself into a deep trance..Â
Vibrate the name of the Demon 30 - 40 times. (Ex: Amon. A-A-A-A-M-M-M-M-O-O-O-O-N-N-N-N). After a while, you should feel his/her energy. Connect with the Demon as best you can.
Ask_____________ if he/she is your Guardian. You will probably not see or hear anything if you are not psychically open, but you should FEEL their response.. Interpreting energy like this might be difficult at first, and if you don’t understand the response, then tell them you don’t understand and ask for a stronger signal. If you receive a very warm, positive signal then you’ve probably found your Guardian. If not, go back over your list and try again.
BACK TO SERMONS PAGE
BACK TO HOMEPAGE
Â
Cordially,
PRAISE THE Mighty 4 Crowns of Duat!
Knowledge cant be rushed, it is power so you must accept and embrace it.
-High Priest Mac Friday
High Priest Mac Friday
Joy Of Satan Ministries
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HOME.html
________________________________
From: melly <zero_zoe_zeroet@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 11:53 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Guardian Demon
Â
I'm really curious on how u find your guardian demon? And how u can meet him/her and what are the signs?
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@... wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@...
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons, just
as it was suggested on JoS, then I sorted them by sex and element (again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest? Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD? Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul. Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.html
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@ wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons, just
as it was suggested on JoS, then I sorted them by sex and element (again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest? Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD? Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul. Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.html
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@... wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@...
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons, just
as it was suggested on JoS, then I sorted them by sex and element (again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest? Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD? Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@... wrote:
Well, diznit, because I have read the exact instructions on how to find one
on this site:
http://gblt.webs.com/Guardian_Demon.htm
this is why I have posted my question.
2011/10/11 diznit26 <diznit26@...
**
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why
you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is
not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you
should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul.
Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.html
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons,
just
as it was suggested on JoS, then I sorted them by sex and element (again,
as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have
come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till now,
I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest?
Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD?
Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "godrickzepher@..." <godrickzepher@... wrote:
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul. Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.html
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@ wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons, just
as it was suggested on JoS, then I sorted them by sex and element (again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest? Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD? Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul. Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.html
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@ wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons, just
as it was suggested on JoS, then I sorted them by sex and element (again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest? Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD? Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
From: diznit26 <diznit26@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:28 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Guardian Demon
Please note that I'm not saying that if you like to find him/her you shouldn't do it. Of course you can try to find him/her but don't place too much emphasis on finding your GD to the exclusion of everything else and most importantly DO NOT WORRY about who your GD is.
I felt I really had to say this as I see people joining, dedicating, then wanting to find who their GD is and worrying about it because of different methods not working and at the same time do not do anything else for their self-empowerment, as if finding your GD is a thing to die for.
I found mine pretty easily just by doing a ritual to Satan and I got signs about who my GD is, but I really didn't get any satisfaction other than knowing a single name.
Not to mention that if your Guardian sees you are ready and empowered, he will contact you. Believe me your guardian wants to get to know you as much as you.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "godrickzepher@..." <godrickzepher@... wrote:
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul. Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.html
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@ wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons, just
as it was suggested on JoS, then I sorted them by sex and element (again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest? Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD? Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@... wrote:
Yes, Godrick I agree too with empowering ones soul first. But you have to
understand that I have come across this page, which is part of JoS,
obviously, and there are exact instructions on how to find GD. So, what do
you suggest now? Should I just ignore this, even if it was written from
someone much advanced than you or me or diznit? Perhaps a HP? Here is the
link, and check for yourself first before you blindly agree with someone.
http://gblt.webs.com/Guardian_Demon.htm
2011/10/11 godrickzepher@... <godrickzepher@...
**
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even
communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I
wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower
yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why
you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is
not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you
should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul.
Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.html
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons,
just
as it was suggested on JoS, then I sorted them by sex and element
(again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have
come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till
now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest?
Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD?
Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "wynterwatcher" <wynterwatcher@... wrote:
Darla,
Many people when they first start seeking their GD end up not being able to make "contact" because they have not completely empowered themselves to be able to see/speak with/feel their GD. Then follows a feeling of "dissapointment" or "what am I doing wrong" idea.
Diznit and Godrick, as well as myself and others, have seen a lot of posts where people have been upset and questioning themselves when they have not been able to find their GD when they first start out. This can be frustrating to both the person seeking their GD as well as those of us that know being open enough is usually needed first. Which is why they are stressing this point to you.
There are many on here that have been dedicated for a long time and still have not found their GD, while there are others that have found their GD quickly. Each person is different.
If you are feeling a possible "connection" with a particular one more than others, than it is possible you have found your GD. Try meditating on that particular GD name/sigil and respectfully request if they are your GD, or try asking Satan first.
Just remember, the Gods are extremely busy and may not always be able to respond right away. In addition, you may not be open enough to realize when they do respond.
That is the whole point behind empowering yourself before trying to seek a connection. Look at it as a way to ensure that you are "ready" by empowering before you seek.
However, if you feel you are ready than that is your decision to try, just don't be too dissappointed if you do not make the contact on the first time, and glad if you do. Remember, responsibility to the respoinsible.
Hail Satan always!!!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@ wrote:
Yes, Godrick I agree too with empowering ones soul first. But you have to
understand that I have come across this page, which is part of JoS,
obviously, and there are exact instructions on how to find GD. So, what do
you suggest now? Should I just ignore this, even if it was written from
someone much advanced than you or me or diznit? Perhaps a HP? Here is the
link, and check for yourself first before you blindly agree with someone.
http://gblt.webs.com/Guardian_Demon.htm
2011/10/11 godrickzepher@ <godrickzepher@
**
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even
communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I
wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower
yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why
you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is
not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you
should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul.
Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.html
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons,
just
as it was suggested on JoS, then I sorted them by sex and element
(again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have
come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till
now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest?
Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD?
Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
Please note that I'm not saying that if you like to find him/her you shouldn't do it. Of course you can try to find him/her but don't place too much emphasis on finding your GD to the exclusion of everything else and most importantly DO NOT WORRY about who your GD is.
I felt I really had to say this as I see people joining, dedicating, then wanting to find who their GD is and worrying about it because of different methods not working and at the same time do not do anything else for their self-empowerment, as if finding your GD is a thing to die for.
I found mine pretty easily just by doing a ritual to Satan and I got signs about who my GD is, but I really didn't get any satisfaction other than knowing a single name.
Not to mention that if your Guardian sees you are ready and empowered, he will contact you. Believe me your guardian wants to get to know you as much as you.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "godrickzepher@..." <godrickzepher@... wrote:
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul. Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.html
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@ wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons, just
as it was suggested on JoS, then I sorted them by sex and element (again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest? Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD? Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
To be technically correct, this is not JoS it's GBLT Thule Society, a site by a JoS clergy member.
However to say that this is JoS it's wrong, it's not JoS but affiliated with it. The only pages which are called JoS are those who begin with "angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666" or "freewebs.com/eridu66" or a few others. That's the reason I say for example "I found that on HP Vovim Baghie's site" and not on JoS, it's a completely different site although it's written by a clergy member.
Yes you did say "I went through all lists of Kings and Demons, just as it was suggested on JoS".
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:
This is not a part of the JoS, but a page affiliated with the JoS and it's also not written by a HP by a member there. You saw it is on the members section under sermons. The only information on JoS about guardians is here:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... rdian.html
This page you posted also disagrees with this one from the JoS where it says that you should use a pendulum or ouija board. There are differences in opinions and this is normal, it doesn't make anyone wrong. But according to your opinion it would make it invalid somehow.
And blindly agreeing goes both ways, you should too check other things and use your common sense before blindly agreeing with the page you posted.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@ wrote:
Yes, Godrick I agree too with empowering ones soul first. But you have to
understand that I have come across this page, which is part of JoS,
obviously, and there are exact instructions on how to find GD. So, what do
you suggest now? Should I just ignore this, even if it was written from
someone much advanced than you or me or diznit? Perhaps a HP? Here is the
link, and check for yourself first before you blindly agree with someone.
http://gblt.webs.com/Guardian_Demon.htm
2011/10/11 godrickzepher@ <godrickzepher@
**
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even
communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I
wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower
yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why
you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is
not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you
should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul.
Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.html
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons,
just
as it was suggested on JoS, then I sorted them by sex and element
(again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have
come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till
now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest?
Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD?
Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
Darla,
Many people when they first start seeking their GD end up not being able to make "contact" because they have not completely empowered themselves to be able to see/speak with/feel their GD. Then follows a feeling of "dissapointment" or "what am I doing wrong" idea.
Diznit and Godrick, as well as myself and others, have seen a lot of posts where people have been upset and questioning themselves when they have not been able to find their GD when they first start out. This can be frustrating to both the person seeking their GD as well as those of us that know being open enough is usually needed first. Which is why they are stressing this point to you.
There are many on here that have been dedicated for a long time and still have not found their GD, while there are others that have found their GD quickly. Each person is different.
If you are feeling a possible "connection" with a particular one more than others, than it is possible you have found your GD. Try meditating on that particular GD name/sigil and respectfully request if they are your GD, or try asking Satan first.
Just remember, the Gods are extremely busy and may not always be able to respond right away. In addition, you may not be open enough to realize when they do respond.
That is the whole point behind empowering yourself before trying to seek a connection. Look at it as a way to ensure that you are "ready" by empowering before you seek.
However, if you feel you are ready than that is your decision to try, just don't be too dissappointed if you do not make the contact on the first time, and glad if you do. Remember, responsibility to the respoinsible.
Hail Satan always!!!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@... wrote:
Yes, Godrick I agree too with empowering ones soul first. But you have to
understand that I have come across this page, which is part of JoS,
obviously, and there are exact instructions on how to find GD. So, what do
you suggest now? Should I just ignore this, even if it was written from
someone much advanced than you or me or diznit? Perhaps a HP? Here is the
link, and check for yourself first before you blindly agree with someone.
http://gblt.webs.com/Guardian_Demon.htm
2011/10/11 godrickzepher@... <godrickzepher@...
**
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even
communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I
wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower
yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why
you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is
not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you
should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul.
Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.html
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons,
just
as it was suggested on JoS, then I sorted them by sex and element
(again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have
come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till
now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest?
Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD?
Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
Lol I was struggling to explain this whole situation with the GD but you explained it perfectly and I could't say this myself any better than that, thanks.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "wynterwatcher" <wynterwatcher@... wrote:
Darla,
Many people when they first start seeking their GD end up not being able to make "contact" because they have not completely empowered themselves to be able to see/speak with/feel their GD. Then follows a feeling of "dissapointment" or "what am I doing wrong" idea.
Diznit and Godrick, as well as myself and others, have seen a lot of posts where people have been upset and questioning themselves when they have not been able to find their GD when they first start out. This can be frustrating to both the person seeking their GD as well as those of us that know being open enough is usually needed first. Which is why they are stressing this point to you.
There are many on here that have been dedicated for a long time and still have not found their GD, while there are others that have found their GD quickly. Each person is different.
If you are feeling a possible "connection" with a particular one more than others, than it is possible you have found your GD. Try meditating on that particular GD name/sigil and respectfully request if they are your GD, or try asking Satan first.
Just remember, the Gods are extremely busy and may not always be able to respond right away. In addition, you may not be open enough to realize when they do respond.
That is the whole point behind empowering yourself before trying to seek a connection. Look at it as a way to ensure that you are "ready" by empowering before you seek.
However, if you feel you are ready than that is your decision to try, just don't be too dissappointed if you do not make the contact on the first time, and glad if you do. Remember, responsibility to the respoinsible.
Hail Satan always!!!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@ wrote:
Yes, Godrick I agree too with empowering ones soul first. But you have to
understand that I have come across this page, which is part of JoS,
obviously, and there are exact instructions on how to find GD. So, what do
you suggest now? Should I just ignore this, even if it was written from
someone much advanced than you or me or diznit? Perhaps a HP? Here is the
link, and check for yourself first before you blindly agree with someone.
http://gblt.webs.com/Guardian_Demon.htm
2011/10/11 godrickzepher@ <godrickzepher@
**
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even
communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I
wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower
yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why
you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is
not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you
should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul.
Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.html
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons,
just
as it was suggested on JoS, then I sorted them by sex and element
(again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have
come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till
now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest?
Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD?
Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@... wrote:
Yes diznit, I agree with you on this one. Wynterwatcher has explained it to
me in a polite, respectful and well-spoken way and I am thankful for this.
We should all have these qualities when addressing each other, don't you
think so? And if you mean to be disrespectful towards me, I wish you
wouldn't bother to explain anything further. See, I have pride issues and am
not willing to diminish them, because I enjoy having them. To each her own.
Hail Father Satan!
2011/10/11 diznit26 <diznit26@...
**
Lol I was struggling to explain this whole situation with the GD but you
explained it perfectly and I could't say this myself any better than that,
thanks.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "wynterwatcher" <wynterwatcher@
wrote:
Darla,
Many people when they first start seeking their GD end up not being able
to make "contact" because they have not completely empowered themselves to
be able to see/speak with/feel their GD. Then follows a feeling of
"dissapointment" or "what am I doing wrong" idea.
Diznit and Godrick, as well as myself and others, have seen a lot of
posts where people have been upset and questioning themselves when they have
not been able to find their GD when they first start out. This can be
frustrating to both the person seeking their GD as well as those of us that
know being open enough is usually needed first. Which is why they are
stressing this point to you.
There are many on here that have been dedicated for a long time and still
have not found their GD, while there are others that have found their GD
quickly. Each person is different.
If you are feeling a possible "connection" with a particular one more
than others, than it is possible you have found your GD. Try meditating on
that particular GD name/sigil and respectfully request if they are your GD,
or try asking Satan first.
Just remember, the Gods are extremely busy and may not always be able to
respond right away. In addition, you may not be open enough to realize when
they do respond.
That is the whole point behind empowering yourself before trying to seek
a connection. Look at it as a way to ensure that you are "ready" by
empowering before you seek.
However, if you feel you are ready than that is your decision to try,
just don't be too dissappointed if you do not make the contact on the first
time, and glad if you do. Remember, responsibility to the respoinsible.
Hail Satan always!!!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
Yes, Godrick I agree too with empowering ones soul first. But you have
to
understand that I have come across this page, which is part of JoS,
obviously, and there are exact instructions on how to find GD. So, what
do
you suggest now? Should I just ignore this, even if it was written from
someone much advanced than you or me or diznit? Perhaps a HP? Here is
the
link, and check for yourself first before you blindly agree with
someone.
http://gblt.webs.com/Guardian_Demon.htm
2011/10/11 godrickzepher@ <godrickzepher@
**
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even
communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their
senses. I
wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just
empower
yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even
see why
you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this
which is
not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready.
When you
should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your
soul.
Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.html
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and
Demons,
just
as it was suggested on JoS, then I sorted them by sex and element
(again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now
I have
come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and
till
now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you
suggest?
Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my
GD?
Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@... wrote:
Wynterwatcher,
thank you for this beautifully written letter, this one I like very much. As
well as it's content, of course, which is the true answer and the one I
was hoping to get.
I'm not one of those who easily give up, I wasn't feeling bad at all by any
means. Far from it. I am truly happy for finding JoS, being an occultist
from my early teens, growing up in "witches" family as well. And now that we
(5 of us) read JoS, tears of true joy are in our eyes because we have been
living by this philosophy all our lives, we only didn't have the name for
it. Can you imagine it? A year ago I didn't even know the terms RHP and LHP,
really. It took a lot of research to find out that this is who we are,
though not knowing the correct semantics.
Excuse me if I have written something incorrectly, as I have mentioned many
times before, we are from Europe and only I speak English.
Thank you again for your reply.
Hail Father!
2011/10/11 wynterwatcher <wynterwatcher@...
**
Darla,
Many people when they first start seeking their GD end up not being able to
make "contact" because they have not completely empowered themselves to be
able to see/speak with/feel their GD. Then follows a feeling of
"dissapointment" or "what am I doing wrong" idea.
Diznit and Godrick, as well as myself and others, have seen a lot of posts
where people have been upset and questioning themselves when they have not
been able to find their GD when they first start out. This can be
frustrating to both the person seeking their GD as well as those of us that
know being open enough is usually needed first. Which is why they are
stressing this point to you.
There are many on here that have been dedicated for a long time and still
have not found their GD, while there are others that have found their GD
quickly. Each person is different.
If you are feeling a possible "connection" with a particular one more than
others, than it is possible you have found your GD. Try meditating on that
particular GD name/sigil and respectfully request if they are your GD, or
try asking Satan first.
Just remember, the Gods are extremely busy and may not always be able to
respond right away. In addition, you may not be open enough to realize when
they do respond.
That is the whole point behind empowering yourself before trying to seek a
connection. Look at it as a way to ensure that you are "ready" by empowering
before you seek.
However, if you feel you are ready than that is your decision to try, just
don't be too dissappointed if you do not make the contact on the first time,
and glad if you do. Remember, responsibility to the respoinsible.
Hail Satan always!!!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
Yes, Godrick I agree too with empowering ones soul first. But you have to
understand that I have come across this page, which is part of JoS,
obviously, and there are exact instructions on how to find GD. So, what
do
you suggest now? Should I just ignore this, even if it was written from
someone much advanced than you or me or diznit? Perhaps a HP? Here is the
link, and check for yourself first before you blindly agree with someone.
http://gblt.webs.com/Guardian_Demon.htm
2011/10/11 godrickzepher@ <godrickzepher@
**
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even
communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their
senses. I
wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just
empower
yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see
why
you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this
which is
not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When
you
should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your
soul.
Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.html
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and
Demons,
just
as it was suggested on JoS, then I sorted them by sex and element
(again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I
have
come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and
till
now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you
suggest?
Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my
GD?
Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "gunslingerscap" <gunslingerscap@... wrote:
If you are talking about choosing one, let me remind you that guardian demons choose us and come to us, not the other way around, and the one who does is that which will be best suited for you
hail satan!
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hardstyle_and_shufflin" <hardstyle_and_shufflin@... wrote:
As someone else had said, we dont choose our guardian demons. THEY choose US. And contrary to whatever you've read on JoS and elsewhere, Satan has came to me personally in the past when I was having the same problem, and told me "You dont always have a guardian demon. Its not guaranteed. " For me, my reason was, no demon had chosen me yet because I hadnt shown full devotion to Spiritual Satanism yet. As I devoted myself more and more to Satan and his teachings, and believed it to be the truth with 0% doubt, i began to notice subtle unexplainable things happening in my daily life. And eventually I realized who it was, etc.
Second, even if you do have a guardian demon, dont count on finding out who it is. Demons do not have to answer to us in anyways, be they your guardian or not. Sometimes their name is irrelevant at the time, and theyll tell you when they see that you are truly devoted to them. For instance I wouldnt want to tell important details about myself to someone, if they are impatient, rude, or any of the like. They wouldnt be worth my time.
You need to have patience. It could take years for you to find out who your guardian demon is. Patience is KEY.
I think alot of times when new Spiritual Satanists come into Satan's Family, they expect to be given everything with no work involved or without putting in any effort or devotion. Im not saying you are like that, im just throwing that out there.
As for suggestions, meditate, keep meditating, if you cant find your demon now then just lay off for awhile. You may not have one yet, or they might be waiting for you to grow more trained in Satans Teachings.
"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan