Goetia

[stephanelepage33]

Hi guys,

I m actually trying to do ,mantra with the names in the goetia for the planet (chakra) that corresponds to the god in the dates the site gives.

I m no expert in astrology (chinese, hindo western). But after checking sites like lepoint.fr, I got questions :

1) our western astrology is fixed but since 2000 years and more constellations moved .If we check the stars, the real date of gemini moved between 21/06 to 20/7 so if we train with the astrological time given on the main site, the dates are wrong.

EG  aguares is 5*9 degree of aries and the dates given are 25/3 to 29/3. In reallity aries in 2016 is from 18/04 to 13/05.

What should we choose for training : the  date of the site or the actuals corresponding dates to the degree of aries? 

What is the implication for any training  (magic, magnum opus, chakras,etc..) ?

2)also, in reality the real timing of of each sign may also be wrong for what it is said, sun pass faster in some signs making some signs last longer in time and other shorter.. What impact does it have in practice ?

Of course, if the real dates are important, which software could help? Just hope that the zone on the planet do not affect also like for chinese astrology ?

Any help to understand will be welcome.

 

[Shael1]

You could try out lunarium.co.uk 
-Shael 

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 10:14, stephanelepage33@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   Hi guys,

I m actually trying to do ,mantra with the names in the goetia for the planet (chakra) that corresponds to the god in the dates the site gives.

I m no expert in astrology (chinese, hindo western). But after checking sites like lepoint.fr, I got questions :

1) our western astrology is fixed but since 2000 years and more constellations moved .If we check the stars, the real date of gemini moved between 21/06 to 20/7 so if we train with the astrological time given on the main site, the dates are wrong.

EG  aguares is 5*9 degree of aries and the dates given are 25/3 to 29/3. In reallity aries in 2016 is from 18/04 to 13/05.

What should we choose for training : the  date of the site or the actuals corresponding dates to the degree of aries? 

What is the implication for any training  (magic, magnum opus, chakras,etc..) ?

2)also, in reality the real timing of of each sign may also be wrong for what it is said, sun pass faster in some signs making some signs last longer in time and other shorter.. What impact does it have in practice ?

Of course, if the real dates are important, which software could help? Just hope that the zone on the planet do not affect also like for chinese astrology ?

Any help to understand will be welcome.

 

[David Sandlin]

This will help explain the use of the tropical zodiac vs sidereal.
The Argument For The Tropical Zodiac Within Vedic Astrology

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The Relation of Hellenistic to Indian Astrology:
The Relation of Hellenistic to Indian Astrology
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On Friday, December 16, 2016 3:14 AM, "stephanelepage33@... [Advanced_Meditation]" <[email protected] wrote:


  Hi guys,

I m actually trying to do ,mantra with the names in the goetia for the planet (chakra) that corresponds to the god in the dates the site gives.

I m no expert in astrology (chinese, hindo western). But after checking sites like lepoint.fr, I got questions :

1) our western astrology is fixed but since 2000 years and more constellations moved .If we check the stars, the real date of gemini moved between 21/06 to 20/7 so if we train with the astrological time given on the main site, the dates are wrong.

EG  aguares is 5*9 degree of aries and the dates given are 25/3 to 29/3. In reallity aries in 2016 is from 18/04 to 13/05.

What should we choose for training : the  date of the site or the actuals corresponding dates to the degree of aries? 

What is the implication for any training  (magic, magnum opus, chakras,etc..) ?

2)also, in reality the real timing of of each sign may also be wrong for what it is said, sun pass faster in some signs making some signs last longer in time and other shorter.. What impact does it have in practice ?

Of course, if the real dates are important, which software could help? Just hope that the zone on the planet do not affect also like for chinese astrology ?

Any help to understand will be welcome.

 

[babyb00m]

Tropical astrology (this is the system used by High Priestess Maxine Dietrich) takes into account precession of the equinoxes. Sidereal astrology (Vedic astrology) does not. High Priestess Maxine Dietrich explains more in the post linked below.

Vedic Vs Western
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/JoS ... ssages/819  
The argument that the sun does not stay in the signs for equal amounts of time was developed by astronomers who know nothing about astrology and hate astrology with a passion. Astronomers focus solely on the physical position of he sun and completely ignore the energetic and spiritual effects of the planets. More information is in the threads linked below.


Regarding the "13th Zodiac Sign"
http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic16404.html 
Positions of the Sun in Zodiacs
http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic14628.html