gargoyles

[Damien Garcia]

Late one night i was outside my house, i was leaning against my jeep looking up at the night sky, taking in the the energy and thanking Father for all the things he has bestowed upon me, i sensed that someone was behind me, so through my perifferal vision i looked and slowly moved my head and there on my garage sitting on its hind legs as a dog would normally sit was what looked like a gargoyle, it was just sitting there looking at me and then it would start grooming itself and then look at me again.

can someone please explain what this might mean, thanks
Damien

 

[radzio_ss]

It means you are being watched over by the powers of Hell, thats all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Damien Garcia <damien1701d@... wrote:

Late one night i was outside my house, i was leaning against my jeep looking up at the night sky, taking in the the energy and thanking Father for all the things he has bestowed upon me, i sensed that someone was behind me, so through my perifferal vision i looked and slowly moved my head and there on my garage sitting on its hind legs as a dog would normally sit was what looked like a gargoyle, it was just sitting there looking at me and then it would start grooming itself and then look at me again.


can someone please explain what this might mean, thanks

Damien

 

[Damien Garcia]

Late one night i was outside my house, i was leaning against my jeep looking up at the night sky, taking in the the energy and thanking Father for all the things he has bestowed upon me, i sensed that someone was behind me, so through my perifferal vision i looked and slowly moved my head and there on my garage sitting on its hind legs as a dog would normally sit was what looked like a gargoyle, it was just sitting there looking at me and then it would start grooming itself and then look at me again.

can someone please explain what this might mean, thanks

Damien

 

[David Gannon]

<td val[/IMG]This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If you wanted to feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for you, what would they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just want to be ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No joke I'm jealous.
[/TD]

From: radzio_ss <truth.seeker1@...;
To: <[email protected];
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: gargoyles
Sent: Fri, Oct 26, 2012 5:40:18 PM

<td val[/IMG]   It means you are being watched over by the powers of Hell, thats all.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Damien Garcia <damien1701d@... wrote:

Late one night i was outside my house, i was leaning against my jeep looking up at the night sky, taking in the the energy and thanking Father for all the things he has bestowed upon me, i sensed that someone was behind me, so through my perifferal vision i looked and slowly moved my head and there on my garage sitting on its hind legs as a dog would normally sit was what looked like a gargoyle, it was just sitting there looking at me and then it would start grooming itself and then look at me again.


can someone please explain what this might mean, thanks

Damien

[/TD]

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Trolling question. You don't actually believe that statues are real beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a representation of lesser Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon <teammgannon@... wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If you wanted to feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for you, what would they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just want to be ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No joke I'm jealous.

 

[Emily Watts]

Well honestly why not believe in living statues? Look at all the other things we believe that might be considered "impossible" or just down right "crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have living artwork/guardians?

On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

  Trolling question. You don't actually believe that statues are real beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a representation of lesser Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon <teammgannon@... wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If you wanted to feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for you, what would they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just want to be ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No joke I'm jealous.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are proven fact for people who have experiences. We don't merely believe them, but have been confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're about that as if we made those things up and we believe them without evidence.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@... wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues? Look at all the other
things we believe that might be considered "impossible" or just down right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that statues are real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a representation of lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon <teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If you wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for you, what would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just want to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No joke I'm jealous.

 

[Emily Watts]

Then I misworded my response and apologize for that, but honestly, how many things have we seen & experienced that others either can't or won't. Check out my experience in the destruction ritual thread from last night. How many 'normal' people would read that & write me off as schizophrenic or just plain lying? If I can experience a huge, muscle-bound demon & burning footprints, why can't someone else experience living statues?

On Oct 28, 2012 11:45 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

  All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are proven fact for people who have experiences. We don't merely believe them, but have been confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're about that as if we made those things up and we believe them without evidence.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@... wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues? Look at all the other
things we believe that might be considered "impossible" or just down right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that statues are real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a representation of lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon <teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If you wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for you, what would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just want to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No joke I'm jealous.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

I don't know if an astral being can take a form of a living statue the same way you saw these footprints and that warrior being astrally but can't really have a physical living statue, especially one that eats meat or eats things in general like that trolling question that person asked. These gargoyles are astral beings, lesser Demons (this has been explained in JoS) not in the physical now. One shouldn't really confuse astral experiences with physical things, those people who are astrally open will be called crazy if they astrally see something in a room that other people who aren't there can see. But if that living statue was on the physical everyone would see it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@... wrote:

Then I misworded my response and apologize for that, but honestly, how many
things have we seen & experienced that others either can't or won't. Check
out my experience in the destruction ritual thread from last night. How
many 'normal' people would read that & write me off as schizophrenic or
just plain lying? If I can experience a huge, muscle-bound demon & burning
footprints, why can't someone else experience living statues?
On Oct 28, 2012 11:45 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

**


All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are proven fact for
people who have experiences. We don't merely believe them, but have been
confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're about that as if we
made those things up and we believe them without evidence.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues? Look at all the other
things we believe that might be considered "impossible" or just down
right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that statues are real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a representation of
lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon <teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If you wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for you, what
would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just want to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No joke I'm
jealous.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

I meant "other people who ARE there CAN'T see".

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

I don't know if an astral being can take a form of a living statue the same way you saw these footprints and that warrior being astrally but can't really have a physical living statue, especially one that eats meat or eats things in general like that trolling question that person asked. These gargoyles are astral beings, lesser Demons (this has been explained in JoS) not in the physical now. One shouldn't really confuse astral experiences with physical things, those people who are astrally open will be called crazy if they astrally see something in a room that other people who aren't there can see. But if that living statue was on the physical everyone would see it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@ wrote:

Then I misworded my response and apologize for that, but honestly, how many
things have we seen & experienced that others either can't or won't. Check
out my experience in the destruction ritual thread from last night. How
many 'normal' people would read that & write me off as schizophrenic or
just plain lying? If I can experience a huge, muscle-bound demon & burning
footprints, why can't someone else experience living statues?
On Oct 28, 2012 11:45 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are proven fact for
people who have experiences. We don't merely believe them, but have been
confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're about that as if we
made those things up and we believe them without evidence.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues? Look at all the other
things we believe that might be considered "impossible" or just down
right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that statues are real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a representation of
lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon <teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If you wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for you, what
would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just want to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No joke I'm
jealous.

 

[Emily Watts]

But depending upon the knowledge/beliefs of the person concerned, wouldn't it be pheasable that an entity might present theirself in a form most acceptable to the person they want to see them? Perhaps the person who saw the gargoyle had a perconcieved notion in their subconcious that gargoyle=form of demon, demon=guardian, my guardian=gargoyle. This is all just theoretical of course, but it sounds plausable to me.

On Oct 28, 2012 12:23 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

  I don't know if an astral being can take a form of a living statue the same way you saw these footprints and that warrior being astrally but can't really have a physical living statue, especially one that eats meat or eats things in general like that trolling question that person asked. These gargoyles are astral beings, lesser Demons (this has been explained in JoS) not in the physical now. One shouldn't really confuse astral experiences with physical things, those people who are astrally open will be called crazy if they astrally see something in a room that other people who aren't there can see. But if that living statue was on the physical everyone would see it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@... wrote:

Then I misworded my response and apologize for that, but honestly, how many
things have we seen & experienced that others either can't or won't. Check
out my experience in the destruction ritual thread from last night. How
many 'normal' people would read that & write me off as schizophrenic or
just plain lying? If I can experience a huge, muscle-bound demon & burning
footprints, why can't someone else experience living statues?
On Oct 28, 2012 11:45 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

**


All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are proven fact for
people who have experiences. We don't merely believe them, but have been
confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're about that as if we
made those things up and we believe them without evidence.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues? Look at all the other
things we believe that might be considered "impossible" or just down
right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that statues are real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a representation of
lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon <teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If you wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for you, what
would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just want to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No joke I'm
jealous.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Rarely. What they usually do after they were freed is they take the form that is consistent with their physical body. That's the reason for example HPS Maxine said when she first communicated with the Gods she expected to see monsters but surprisingly they were very beautiful more beautiful than humans and human-looking.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@... wrote:

But depending upon the knowledge/beliefs of the person concerned, wouldn't
it be pheasable that an entity might present theirself in a form most
acceptable to the person they want to see them? Perhaps the person who saw
the gargoyle had a perconcieved notion in their subconcious that
gargoyle=form of demon, demon=guardian, my guardian=gargoyle. This is all
just theoretical of course, but it sounds plausable to me.
On Oct 28, 2012 12:23 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

**


I don't know if an astral being can take a form of a living statue the
same way you saw these footprints and that warrior being astrally but can't
really have a physical living statue, especially one that eats meat or eats
things in general like that trolling question that person asked. These
gargoyles are astral beings, lesser Demons (this has been explained in JoS)
not in the physical now. One shouldn't really confuse astral experiences
with physical things, those people who are astrally open will be called
crazy if they astrally see something in a room that other people who aren't
there can see. But if that living statue was on the physical everyone would
see it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

Then I misworded my response and apologize for that, but honestly, how
many
things have we seen & experienced that others either can't or won't.
Check
out my experience in the destruction ritual thread from last night. How
many 'normal' people would read that & write me off as schizophrenic or
just plain lying? If I can experience a huge, muscle-bound demon &
burning
footprints, why can't someone else experience living statues?
On Oct 28, 2012 11:45 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are proven fact for
people who have experiences. We don't merely believe them, but have
been
confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're about that as
if we
made those things up and we believe them without evidence.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues? Look at all the
other
things we believe that might be considered "impossible" or just down
right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that statues are real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a representation of
lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon <teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If you
wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for you,
what
would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just want
to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No joke I'm
jealous.

 

[Emily Watts]

I actually did read that post from HP Maxine. But did what I say make sense too?

On Oct 28, 2012 12:38 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

  Rarely. What they usually do after they were freed is they take the form that is consistent with their physical body. That's the reason for example HPS Maxine said when she first communicated with the Gods she expected to see monsters but surprisingly they were very beautiful more beautiful than humans and human-looking.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@... wrote:

But depending upon the knowledge/beliefs of the person concerned, wouldn't
it be pheasable that an entity might present theirself in a form most
acceptable to the person they want to see them? Perhaps the person who saw
the gargoyle had a perconcieved notion in their subconcious that
gargoyle=form of demon, demon=guardian, my guardian=gargoyle. This is all
just theoretical of course, but it sounds plausable to me.
On Oct 28, 2012 12:23 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

**


I don't know if an astral being can take a form of a living statue the
same way you saw these footprints and that warrior being astrally but can't
really have a physical living statue, especially one that eats meat or eats
things in general like that trolling question that person asked. These
gargoyles are astral beings, lesser Demons (this has been explained in JoS)
not in the physical now. One shouldn't really confuse astral experiences
with physical things, those people who are astrally open will be called
crazy if they astrally see something in a room that other people who aren't
there can see. But if that living statue was on the physical everyone would
see it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

Then I misworded my response and apologize for that, but honestly, how
many
things have we seen & experienced that others either can't or won't.
Check
out my experience in the destruction ritual thread from last night. How
many 'normal' people would read that & write me off as schizophrenic or
just plain lying? If I can experience a huge, muscle-bound demon &
burning
footprints, why can't someone else experience living statues?
On Oct 28, 2012 11:45 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are proven fact for
people who have experiences. We don't merely believe them, but have
been
confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're about that as
if we
made those things up and we believe them without evidence.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues? Look at all the
other
things we believe that might be considered "impossible" or just down
right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that statues are real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a representation of
lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon <teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If you
wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for you,
what
would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just want
to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No joke I'm
jealous.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Like I said they do appear in some other form but rarely, depending on many reasons. For example some person said here he sees Anubis/Ipos as jackal headed exactly like the Egyptian version.

But that guy who saw a gargoyle obviously saw a lesser Demon because that's how they usually look like. I don't question that at all. My reply was to that other guy who asked what to feed a gargoyle.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@... wrote:

I actually did read that post from HP Maxine. But did what I say make sense
too?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:38 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

**


Rarely. What they usually do after they were freed is they take the form
that is consistent with their physical body. That's the reason for example
HPS Maxine said when she first communicated with the Gods she expected to
see monsters but surprisingly they were very beautiful more beautiful than
humans and human-looking.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

But depending upon the knowledge/beliefs of the person concerned,
wouldn't
it be pheasable that an entity might present theirself in a form most
acceptable to the person they want to see them? Perhaps the person who
saw
the gargoyle had a perconcieved notion in their subconcious that
gargoyle=form of demon, demon=guardian, my guardian=gargoyle. This is all
just theoretical of course, but it sounds plausable to me.
On Oct 28, 2012 12:23 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


I don't know if an astral being can take a form of a living statue the
same way you saw these footprints and that warrior being astrally but
can't
really have a physical living statue, especially one that eats meat or
eats
things in general like that trolling question that person asked. These
gargoyles are astral beings, lesser Demons (this has been explained in
JoS)
not in the physical now. One shouldn't really confuse astral
experiences
with physical things, those people who are astrally open will be called
crazy if they astrally see something in a room that other people who
aren't
there can see. But if that living statue was on the physical everyone
would
see it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

Then I misworded my response and apologize for that, but honestly,
how
many
things have we seen & experienced that others either can't or won't.
Check
out my experience in the destruction ritual thread from last night.
How
many 'normal' people would read that & write me off as schizophrenic
or
just plain lying? If I can experience a huge, muscle-bound demon &
burning
footprints, why can't someone else experience living statues?
On Oct 28, 2012 11:45 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are proven fact
for
people who have experiences. We don't merely believe them, but have
been
confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're about that
as
if we
made those things up and we believe them without evidence.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues? Look at all the
other
things we believe that might be considered "impossible" or just
down
right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that statues are
real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a
representation of
lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon
<teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If you
wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for
you,
what
would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just
want
to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No joke
I'm
jealous.

 

[Emily Watts]

I was actually talking about that with my husband last night. We know that the Demons never demand offerings, but we were wondering, would it be acceptable to give something physical to them as a thank you gift? Say, incense, found items, drawings, etc.? What I'm asking is, if the practitioner feels moved to give a physical "offering" would they be offended?

On Oct 28, 2012 12:48 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

  Like I said they do appear in some other form but rarely, depending on many reasons. For example some person said here he sees Anubis/Ipos as jackal headed exactly like the Egyptian version.

But that guy who saw a gargoyle obviously saw a lesser Demon because that's how they usually look like. I don't question that at all. My reply was to that other guy who asked what to feed a gargoyle.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@... wrote:

I actually did read that post from HP Maxine. But did what I say make sense
too?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:38 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

**


Rarely. What they usually do after they were freed is they take the form
that is consistent with their physical body. That's the reason for example
HPS Maxine said when she first communicated with the Gods she expected to
see monsters but surprisingly they were very beautiful more beautiful than
humans and human-looking.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

But depending upon the knowledge/beliefs of the person concerned,
wouldn't
it be pheasable that an entity might present theirself in a form most
acceptable to the person they want to see them? Perhaps the person who
saw
the gargoyle had a perconcieved notion in their subconcious that
gargoyle=form of demon, demon=guardian, my guardian=gargoyle. This is all
just theoretical of course, but it sounds plausable to me.
On Oct 28, 2012 12:23 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


I don't know if an astral being can take a form of a living statue the
same way you saw these footprints and that warrior being astrally but
can't
really have a physical living statue, especially one that eats meat or
eats
things in general like that trolling question that person asked. These
gargoyles are astral beings, lesser Demons (this has been explained in
JoS)
not in the physical now. One shouldn't really confuse astral
experiences
with physical things, those people who are astrally open will be called
crazy if they astrally see something in a room that other people who
aren't
there can see. But if that living statue was on the physical everyone
would
see it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

Then I misworded my response and apologize for that, but honestly,
how
many
things have we seen & experienced that others either can't or won't.
Check
out my experience in the destruction ritual thread from last night.
How
many 'normal' people would read that & write me off as schizophrenic
or
just plain lying? If I can experience a huge, muscle-bound demon &
burning
footprints, why can't someone else experience living statues?
On Oct 28, 2012 11:45 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are proven fact
for
people who have experiences. We don't merely believe them, but have
been
confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're about that
as
if we
made those things up and we believe them without evidence.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues? Look at all the
other
things we believe that might be considered "impossible" or just
down
right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that statues are
real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a
representation of
lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon
<teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If you
wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for
you,
what
would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just
want
to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No joke
I'm
jealous.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

They don't get offended, but why offer something that they can't use anyway? A drawing or incense are good offerings though, and anything artistic in general is good as they do look and appreciate them. Art always has a meaning that goes much deeper than it's physical representation. I mean when you see a drawing, why do you appreciate it? Physically speaking it's nothing more than a bunch of mixed colors and lines and shapes. But of course many of us do like it because of the strong emotions and meaning behind it and/or the connection with the person it depicts (if it depicts someone). Same with the Gods.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@... wrote:

I was actually talking about that with my husband last night. We know that
the Demons never demand offerings, but we were wondering, would it be
acceptable to give something physical to them as a thank you gift? Say,
incense, found items, drawings, etc.? What I'm asking is, if the
practitioner feels moved to give a physical "offering" would they be
offended?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:48 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

**


Like I said they do appear in some other form but rarely, depending on
many reasons. For example some person said here he sees Anubis/Ipos as
jackal headed exactly like the Egyptian version.

But that guy who saw a gargoyle obviously saw a lesser Demon because
that's how they usually look like. I don't question that at all. My reply
was to that other guy who asked what to feed a gargoyle.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

I actually did read that post from HP Maxine. But did what I say make
sense
too?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:38 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Rarely. What they usually do after they were freed is they take the
form
that is consistent with their physical body. That's the reason for
example
HPS Maxine said when she first communicated with the Gods she expected
to
see monsters but surprisingly they were very beautiful more beautiful
than
humans and human-looking.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

But depending upon the knowledge/beliefs of the person concerned,
wouldn't
it be pheasable that an entity might present theirself in a form most
acceptable to the person they want to see them? Perhaps the person
who
saw
the gargoyle had a perconcieved notion in their subconcious that
gargoyle=form of demon, demon=guardian, my guardian=gargoyle. This
is all
just theoretical of course, but it sounds plausable to me.
On Oct 28, 2012 12:23 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


I don't know if an astral being can take a form of a living statue
the
same way you saw these footprints and that warrior being astrally
but
can't
really have a physical living statue, especially one that eats
meat or
eats
things in general like that trolling question that person asked.
These
gargoyles are astral beings, lesser Demons (this has been
explained in
JoS)
not in the physical now. One shouldn't really confuse astral
experiences
with physical things, those people who are astrally open will be
called
crazy if they astrally see something in a room that other people
who
aren't
there can see. But if that living statue was on the physical
everyone
would
see it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

Then I misworded my response and apologize for that, but
honestly,
how
many
things have we seen & experienced that others either can't or
won't.
Check
out my experience in the destruction ritual thread from last
night.
How
many 'normal' people would read that & write me off as
schizophrenic
or
just plain lying? If I can experience a huge, muscle-bound demon
&
burning
footprints, why can't someone else experience living statues?
On Oct 28, 2012 11:45 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are proven
fact
for
people who have experiences. We don't merely believe them, but
have
been
confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're about
that
as
if we
made those things up and we believe them without evidence.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts
<emilywatts87@
wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues? Look at all
the
other
things we believe that might be considered "impossible" or
just
down
right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that statues
are
real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a
representation of
lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon
<teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If
you
wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for
you,
what
would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just
want
to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No
joke
I'm
jealous.

 

[Emily Watts]

How long have you been SS fire starter? You are a wealth of useful & insightful information!

On Oct 28, 2012 1:01 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

  They don't get offended, but why offer something that they can't use anyway? A drawing or incense are good offerings though, and anything artistic in general is good as they do look and appreciate them. Art always has a meaning that goes much deeper than it's physical representation. I mean when you see a drawing, why do you appreciate it? Physically speaking it's nothing more than a bunch of mixed colors and lines and shapes. But of course many of us do like it because of the strong emotions and meaning behind it and/or the connection with the person it depicts (if it depicts someone). Same with the Gods.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@... wrote:

I was actually talking about that with my husband last night. We know that
the Demons never demand offerings, but we were wondering, would it be
acceptable to give something physical to them as a thank you gift? Say,
incense, found items, drawings, etc.? What I'm asking is, if the
practitioner feels moved to give a physical "offering" would they be
offended?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:48 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

**


Like I said they do appear in some other form but rarely, depending on
many reasons. For example some person said here he sees Anubis/Ipos as
jackal headed exactly like the Egyptian version.

But that guy who saw a gargoyle obviously saw a lesser Demon because
that's how they usually look like. I don't question that at all. My reply
was to that other guy who asked what to feed a gargoyle.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

I actually did read that post from HP Maxine. But did what I say make
sense
too?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:38 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Rarely. What they usually do after they were freed is they take the
form
that is consistent with their physical body. That's the reason for
example
HPS Maxine said when she first communicated with the Gods she expected
to
see monsters but surprisingly they were very beautiful more beautiful
than
humans and human-looking.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

But depending upon the knowledge/beliefs of the person concerned,
wouldn't
it be pheasable that an entity might present theirself in a form most
acceptable to the person they want to see them? Perhaps the person
who
saw
the gargoyle had a perconcieved notion in their subconcious that
gargoyle=form of demon, demon=guardian, my guardian=gargoyle. This
is all
just theoretical of course, but it sounds plausable to me.
On Oct 28, 2012 12:23 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


I don't know if an astral being can take a form of a living statue
the
same way you saw these footprints and that warrior being astrally
but
can't
really have a physical living statue, especially one that eats
meat or
eats
things in general like that trolling question that person asked.
These
gargoyles are astral beings, lesser Demons (this has been
explained in
JoS)
not in the physical now. One shouldn't really confuse astral
experiences
with physical things, those people who are astrally open will be
called
crazy if they astrally see something in a room that other people
who
aren't
there can see. But if that living statue was on the physical
everyone
would
see it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

Then I misworded my response and apologize for that, but
honestly,
how
many
things have we seen & experienced that others either can't or
won't.
Check
out my experience in the destruction ritual thread from last
night.
How
many 'normal' people would read that & write me off as
schizophrenic
or
just plain lying? If I can experience a huge, muscle-bound demon
&
burning
footprints, why can't someone else experience living statues?
On Oct 28, 2012 11:45 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are proven
fact
for
people who have experiences. We don't merely believe them, but
have
been
confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're about
that
as
if we
made those things up and we believe them without evidence.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts
<emilywatts87@
wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues? Look at all
the
other
things we believe that might be considered "impossible" or
just
down
right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that statues
are
real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a
representation of
lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon
<teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If
you
wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for
you,
what
would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just
want
to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No
joke
I'm
jealous.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Thanks! I've been dedicated since Spring Equinox 2007, but I first found JoS in May 2006.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@... wrote:

How long have you been SS fire starter? You are a wealth of useful &
insightful information!
On Oct 28, 2012 1:01 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

**


They don't get offended, but why offer something that they can't use
anyway? A drawing or incense are good offerings though, and anything
artistic in general is good as they do look and appreciate them. Art always
has a meaning that goes much deeper than it's physical representation. I
mean when you see a drawing, why do you appreciate it? Physically speaking
it's nothing more than a bunch of mixed colors and lines and shapes. But of
course many of us do like it because of the strong emotions and meaning
behind it and/or the connection with the person it depicts (if it depicts
someone). Same with the Gods.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

I was actually talking about that with my husband last night. We know
that
the Demons never demand offerings, but we were wondering, would it be
acceptable to give something physical to them as a thank you gift? Say,
incense, found items, drawings, etc.? What I'm asking is, if the
practitioner feels moved to give a physical "offering" would they be
offended?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:48 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Like I said they do appear in some other form but rarely, depending on
many reasons. For example some person said here he sees Anubis/Ipos as
jackal headed exactly like the Egyptian version.

But that guy who saw a gargoyle obviously saw a lesser Demon because
that's how they usually look like. I don't question that at all. My
reply
was to that other guy who asked what to feed a gargoyle.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

I actually did read that post from HP Maxine. But did what I say make
sense
too?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:38 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Rarely. What they usually do after they were freed is they take the
form
that is consistent with their physical body. That's the reason for
example
HPS Maxine said when she first communicated with the Gods she
expected
to
see monsters but surprisingly they were very beautiful more
beautiful
than
humans and human-looking.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

But depending upon the knowledge/beliefs of the person concerned,
wouldn't
it be pheasable that an entity might present theirself in a form
most
acceptable to the person they want to see them? Perhaps the
person
who
saw
the gargoyle had a perconcieved notion in their subconcious that
gargoyle=form of demon, demon=guardian, my guardian=gargoyle.
This
is all
just theoretical of course, but it sounds plausable to me.
On Oct 28, 2012 12:23 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


I don't know if an astral being can take a form of a living
statue
the
same way you saw these footprints and that warrior being
astrally
but
can't
really have a physical living statue, especially one that eats
meat or
eats
things in general like that trolling question that person
asked.
These
gargoyles are astral beings, lesser Demons (this has been
explained in
JoS)
not in the physical now. One shouldn't really confuse astral
experiences
with physical things, those people who are astrally open will
be
called
crazy if they astrally see something in a room that other
people
who
aren't
there can see. But if that living statue was on the physical
everyone
would
see it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts
<emilywatts87@
wrote:

Then I misworded my response and apologize for that, but
honestly,
how
many
things have we seen & experienced that others either can't or
won't.
Check
out my experience in the destruction ritual thread from last
night.
How
many 'normal' people would read that & write me off as
schizophrenic
or
just plain lying? If I can experience a huge, muscle-bound
demon
&
burning
footprints, why can't someone else experience living statues?
On Oct 28, 2012 11:45 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are
proven
fact
for
people who have experiences. We don't merely believe them,
but
have
been
confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're
about
that
as
if we
made those things up and we believe them without evidence.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts
<emilywatts87@
wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues? Look at
all
the
other
things we believe that might be considered "impossible"
or
just
down
right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have
living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that
statues
are
real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a
representation of
lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon
<teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but...
If
you
wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its
doing for
you,
what
would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would
just
want
to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No
joke
I'm
jealous.

 

[Emily Watts]

That's awesome! The husband & I have been dedicated for a little over 3 weeks now. The husband found the site about a week beforehand. We just knew that this was where we belonged. This was what we'd been searching for. I have to say, I've never been happier in my path.

On Oct 28, 2012 1:15 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

  Thanks! I've been dedicated since Spring Equinox 2007, but I first found JoS in May 2006.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@... wrote:

How long have you been SS fire starter? You are a wealth of useful &
insightful information!
On Oct 28, 2012 1:01 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

**


They don't get offended, but why offer something that they can't use
anyway? A drawing or incense are good offerings though, and anything
artistic in general is good as they do look and appreciate them. Art always
has a meaning that goes much deeper than it's physical representation. I
mean when you see a drawing, why do you appreciate it? Physically speaking
it's nothing more than a bunch of mixed colors and lines and shapes. But of
course many of us do like it because of the strong emotions and meaning
behind it and/or the connection with the person it depicts (if it depicts
someone). Same with the Gods.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

I was actually talking about that with my husband last night. We know
that
the Demons never demand offerings, but we were wondering, would it be
acceptable to give something physical to them as a thank you gift? Say,
incense, found items, drawings, etc.? What I'm asking is, if the
practitioner feels moved to give a physical "offering" would they be
offended?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:48 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Like I said they do appear in some other form but rarely, depending on
many reasons. For example some person said here he sees Anubis/Ipos as
jackal headed exactly like the Egyptian version.

But that guy who saw a gargoyle obviously saw a lesser Demon because
that's how they usually look like. I don't question that at all. My
reply
was to that other guy who asked what to feed a gargoyle.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

I actually did read that post from HP Maxine. But did what I say make
sense
too?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:38 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Rarely. What they usually do after they were freed is they take the
form
that is consistent with their physical body. That's the reason for
example
HPS Maxine said when she first communicated with the Gods she
expected
to
see monsters but surprisingly they were very beautiful more
beautiful
than
humans and human-looking.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

But depending upon the knowledge/beliefs of the person concerned,
wouldn't
it be pheasable that an entity might present theirself in a form
most
acceptable to the person they want to see them? Perhaps the
person
who
saw
the gargoyle had a perconcieved notion in their subconcious that
gargoyle=form of demon, demon=guardian, my guardian=gargoyle.
This
is all
just theoretical of course, but it sounds plausable to me.
On Oct 28, 2012 12:23 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


I don't know if an astral being can take a form of a living
statue
the
same way you saw these footprints and that warrior being
astrally
but
can't
really have a physical living statue, especially one that eats
meat or
eats
things in general like that trolling question that person
asked.
These
gargoyles are astral beings, lesser Demons (this has been
explained in
JoS)
not in the physical now. One shouldn't really confuse astral
experiences
with physical things, those people who are astrally open will
be
called
crazy if they astrally see something in a room that other
people
who
aren't
there can see. But if that living statue was on the physical
everyone
would
see it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts
<emilywatts87@
wrote:

Then I misworded my response and apologize for that, but
honestly,
how
many
things have we seen & experienced that others either can't or
won't.
Check
out my experience in the destruction ritual thread from last
night.
How
many 'normal' people would read that & write me off as
schizophrenic
or
just plain lying? If I can experience a huge, muscle-bound
demon
&
burning
footprints, why can't someone else experience living statues?
On Oct 28, 2012 11:45 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are
proven
fact
for
people who have experiences. We don't merely believe them,
but
have
been
confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're
about
that
as
if we
made those things up and we believe them without evidence.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts
<emilywatts87@
wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues? Look at
all
the
other
things we believe that might be considered "impossible"
or
just
down
right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have
living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that
statues
are
real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a
representation of
lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon
<teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but...
If
you
wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its
doing for
you,
what
would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would
just
want
to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No
joke
I'm
jealous.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Haha you have an advantage here. I'm a single SS with no SS partner!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@... wrote:

That's awesome! The husband & I have been dedicated for a little over 3
weeks now. The husband found the site about a week beforehand. We just knew
that this was where we belonged. This was what we'd been searching for. I
have to say, I've never been happier in my path.
On Oct 28, 2012 1:15 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

**


Thanks! I've been dedicated since Spring Equinox 2007, but I first found
JoS in May 2006.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

How long have you been SS fire starter? You are a wealth of useful &
insightful information!
On Oct 28, 2012 1:01 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


They don't get offended, but why offer something that they can't use
anyway? A drawing or incense are good offerings though, and anything
artistic in general is good as they do look and appreciate them. Art
always
has a meaning that goes much deeper than it's physical representation.
I
mean when you see a drawing, why do you appreciate it? Physically
speaking
it's nothing more than a bunch of mixed colors and lines and shapes.
But of
course many of us do like it because of the strong emotions and meaning
behind it and/or the connection with the person it depicts (if it
depicts
someone). Same with the Gods.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

I was actually talking about that with my husband last night. We know
that
the Demons never demand offerings, but we were wondering, would it be
acceptable to give something physical to them as a thank you gift?
Say,
incense, found items, drawings, etc.? What I'm asking is, if the
practitioner feels moved to give a physical "offering" would they be
offended?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:48 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Like I said they do appear in some other form but rarely,
depending on
many reasons. For example some person said here he sees
Anubis/Ipos as
jackal headed exactly like the Egyptian version.

But that guy who saw a gargoyle obviously saw a lesser Demon
because
that's how they usually look like. I don't question that at all. My
reply
was to that other guy who asked what to feed a gargoyle.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

I actually did read that post from HP Maxine. But did what I say
make
sense
too?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:38 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Rarely. What they usually do after they were freed is they
take the
form
that is consistent with their physical body. That's the reason
for
example
HPS Maxine said when she first communicated with the Gods she
expected
to
see monsters but surprisingly they were very beautiful more
beautiful
than
humans and human-looking.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts
<emilywatts87@
wrote:

But depending upon the knowledge/beliefs of the person
concerned,
wouldn't
it be pheasable that an entity might present theirself in a
form
most
acceptable to the person they want to see them? Perhaps the
person
who
saw
the gargoyle had a perconcieved notion in their subconcious
that
gargoyle=form of demon, demon=guardian, my guardian=gargoyle.
This
is all
just theoretical of course, but it sounds plausable to me.
On Oct 28, 2012 12:23 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


I don't know if an astral being can take a form of a living
statue
the
same way you saw these footprints and that warrior being
astrally
but
can't
really have a physical living statue, especially one that
eats
meat or
eats
things in general like that trolling question that person
asked.
These
gargoyles are astral beings, lesser Demons (this has been
explained in
JoS)
not in the physical now. One shouldn't really confuse
astral
experiences
with physical things, those people who are astrally open
will
be
called
crazy if they astrally see something in a room that other
people
who
aren't
there can see. But if that living statue was on the
physical
everyone
would
see it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts
<emilywatts87@
wrote:

Then I misworded my response and apologize for that, but
honestly,
how
many
things have we seen & experienced that others either
can't or
won't.
Check
out my experience in the destruction ritual thread from
last
night.
How
many 'normal' people would read that & write me off as
schizophrenic
or
just plain lying? If I can experience a huge,
muscle-bound
demon
&
burning
footprints, why can't someone else experience living
statues?
On Oct 28, 2012 11:45 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are
proven
fact
for
people who have experiences. We don't merely believe
them,
but
have
been
confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're
about
that
as
if we
made those things up and we believe them without
evidence.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts
<emilywatts87@
wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues?
Look at
all
the
other
things we believe that might be considered
"impossible"
or
just
down
right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have
living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that
statues
are
real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a
representation of
lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but
astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon
<teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate
but...
If
you
wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its
doing for
you,
what
would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I
would
just
want
to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious
business. No
joke
I'm
jealous.

 

[Emily Watts]

Wow, you are a much stronger person than I. If I didn't have the support of my husband, I'd probably sink into depression, then anger, and be doing nothing other than destruction rituals.

On Oct 28, 2012 1:36 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

  Haha you have an advantage here. I'm a single SS with no SS partner!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@... wrote:

That's awesome! The husband & I have been dedicated for a little over 3
weeks now. The husband found the site about a week beforehand. We just knew
that this was where we belonged. This was what we'd been searching for. I
have to say, I've never been happier in my path.
On Oct 28, 2012 1:15 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

**


Thanks! I've been dedicated since Spring Equinox 2007, but I first found
JoS in May 2006.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

How long have you been SS fire starter? You are a wealth of useful &
insightful information!
On Oct 28, 2012 1:01 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


They don't get offended, but why offer something that they can't use
anyway? A drawing or incense are good offerings though, and anything
artistic in general is good as they do look and appreciate them. Art
always
has a meaning that goes much deeper than it's physical representation.
I
mean when you see a drawing, why do you appreciate it? Physically
speaking
it's nothing more than a bunch of mixed colors and lines and shapes.
But of
course many of us do like it because of the strong emotions and meaning
behind it and/or the connection with the person it depicts (if it
depicts
someone). Same with the Gods.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

I was actually talking about that with my husband last night. We know
that
the Demons never demand offerings, but we were wondering, would it be
acceptable to give something physical to them as a thank you gift?
Say,
incense, found items, drawings, etc.? What I'm asking is, if the
practitioner feels moved to give a physical "offering" would they be
offended?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:48 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Like I said they do appear in some other form but rarely,
depending on
many reasons. For example some person said here he sees
Anubis/Ipos as
jackal headed exactly like the Egyptian version.

But that guy who saw a gargoyle obviously saw a lesser Demon
because
that's how they usually look like. I don't question that at all. My
reply
was to that other guy who asked what to feed a gargoyle.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

I actually did read that post from HP Maxine. But did what I say
make
sense
too?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:38 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Rarely. What they usually do after they were freed is they
take the
form
that is consistent with their physical body. That's the reason
for
example
HPS Maxine said when she first communicated with the Gods she
expected
to
see monsters but surprisingly they were very beautiful more
beautiful
than
humans and human-looking.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts
<emilywatts87@
wrote:

But depending upon the knowledge/beliefs of the person
concerned,
wouldn't
it be pheasable that an entity might present theirself in a
form
most
acceptable to the person they want to see them? Perhaps the
person
who
saw
the gargoyle had a perconcieved notion in their subconcious
that
gargoyle=form of demon, demon=guardian, my guardian=gargoyle.
This
is all
just theoretical of course, but it sounds plausable to me.
On Oct 28, 2012 12:23 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


I don't know if an astral being can take a form of a living
statue
the
same way you saw these footprints and that warrior being
astrally
but
can't
really have a physical living statue, especially one that
eats
meat or
eats
things in general like that trolling question that person
asked.
These
gargoyles are astral beings, lesser Demons (this has been
explained in
JoS)
not in the physical now. One shouldn't really confuse
astral
experiences
with physical things, those people who are astrally open
will
be
called
crazy if they astrally see something in a room that other
people
who
aren't
there can see. But if that living statue was on the
physical
everyone
would
see it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts
<emilywatts87@
wrote:

Then I misworded my response and apologize for that, but
honestly,
how
many
things have we seen & experienced that others either
can't or
won't.
Check
out my experience in the destruction ritual thread from
last
night.
How
many 'normal' people would read that & write me off as
schizophrenic
or
just plain lying? If I can experience a huge,
muscle-bound
demon
&
burning
footprints, why can't someone else experience living
statues?
On Oct 28, 2012 11:45 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are
proven
fact
for
people who have experiences. We don't merely believe
them,
but
have
been
confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're
about
that
as
if we
made those things up and we believe them without
evidence.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Emily Watts
<emilywatts87@
wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues?
Look at
all
the
other
things we believe that might be considered
"impossible"
or
just
down
right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have
living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that
statues
are
real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a
representation of
lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but
astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon
<teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate
but...
If
you
wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its
doing for
you,
what
would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I
would
just
want
to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious
business. No
joke
I'm
jealous.

 

[Damien Garcia]

i know what i saw, and it was indeed  gargoyle looking.

Damien


From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 4:39 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: gargoyles

  Trolling question. You don't actually believe that statues are real beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a representation of lesser Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon <teammgannon@... wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If you wanted to feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for you, what would they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just want to be ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No joke I'm jealous.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Read the post I was quoting and replying to. *hint* it wasn't yours *hint*. It was to that person who thought gargoyles are physical beings like the statues and they eat food physically.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Damien Garcia <damien1701d@... wrote:

i know what i saw, and it was indeed  gargoyle looking.

Damien





________________________________
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 4:39 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: gargoyles


 
Trolling question. You don't actually believe that statues are real beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a representation of lesser Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], David Gannon <teammgannon@ wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If you wanted to feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for you, what would they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just want to be ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No joke I'm jealous.

 

[Blufirebomber666]

  [/IMG]</var>      HA[/IMG]</var><var [/IMG]</var>

From: Damien Garcia <damien1701d@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: gargoyles
  i know what i saw, and it was indeed  gargoyle looking. Damien

From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 4:39 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: gargoyles
  Trolling question. You don't actually believe that statues are real beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a representation of lesser Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, David Gannon <teammgannon@... wrote: This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but... If you wanted to feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its doing for you, what would they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak. I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would just want to be ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No joke I'm jealous.

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]That awesome another Satanic family like us.Glad you both found us.We kind of grew up in this group together.



Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]

From: Emily Watts <emilywatts87@...;
To: <[email protected];
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: gargoyles
Sent: Sun, Oct 28, 2012 6:20:02 PM

<td val[/IMG]   That's aweso[/IMG]the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

  Thanks! I've been dedicated since Spring Equinox 2007, but I first found JoS in May 2006.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@... wrote:

How long have you been SS fire starter? You are a wealth of useful &
insightful information!
On Oct 28, 2012 1:01 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

**


They don't get offended, but why offer something that they can't use
anyway? A drawing or incense are good offerings though, and anything
artistic in general is good as they do look and appreciate them. Art always
has a meaning that goes much deeper than it's physical representation. I
mean when you see a drawing, why do you appreciate it? Physically speaking
it's nothing more than a bunch of mixed colors and lines and shapes. But of
course many of us do like it because of the strong emotions and meaning
behind it and/or the connection with the person it depicts (if it depicts
someone). Same with the Gods.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

I was actually talking about that with my husband last night. We know
that
the Demons never demand offerings, but we were wondering, would it be
acceptable to give something physical to them as a thank you gift? Say,
incense, found items, drawings, etc.? What I'm asking is, if the
practitioner feels moved to give a physical "offering" would they be
offended?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:48 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Like I said they do appear in some other form but rarely, depending on
many reasons. For example some person said here he sees Anubis/Ipos as
jackal headed exactly like the Egyptian version.

But that guy who saw a gargoyle obviously saw a lesser Demon because
that's how they usually look like. I don't question that at all. My
reply
was to that other guy who asked what to feed a gargoyle.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

I actually did read that post from HP Maxine. But did what I say make
sense
too?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:38 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Rarely. What they usually do after they were freed is they take the
form
that is consistent with their physical body. That's the reason for
example
HPS Maxine said when she first communicated with the Gods she
expected
to
see monsters but surprisingly they were very beautiful more
beautiful
than
humans and human-looking.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

But depending upon the knowledge/beliefs of the person concerned,
wouldn't
it be pheasable that an entity might present theirself in a form
most
acceptable to the person they want to see them? Perhaps the
person
who
saw
the gargoyle had a perconcieved notion in their subconcious that
gargoyle=form of demon, demon=guardian, my guardian=gargoyle.
This
is all
just theoretical of course, but it sounds plausable to me.
On Oct 28, 2012 12:23 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


I don't know if an astral being can take a form of a living
statue
the
same way you saw these footprints and that warrior being
astrally
but
can't
really have a physical living statue, especially one that eats
meat or
eats
things in general like that trolling question that person
asked.
These
gargoyles are astral beings, lesser Demons (this has been
explained in
JoS)
not in the physical now. One shouldn't really confuse astral
experiences
with physical things, those people who are astrally open will
be
called
crazy if they astrally see something in a room that other
people
who
aren't
there can see. But if that living statue was on the physical
everyone
would
see it.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Emily Watts
<emilywatts87@
wrote:

Then I misworded my response and apologize for that, but
honestly,
how
many
things have we seen & experienced that others either can't or
won't.
Check
out my experience in the destruction ritual thread from last
night.
How
many 'normal' people would read that & write me off as
schizophrenic
or
just plain lying? If I can experience a huge, muscle-bound
demon
&
burning
footprints, why can't someone else experience living statues?
On Oct 28, 2012 11:45 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are
proven
fact
for
people who have experiences. We don't merely believe them,
but
have
been
confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're
about
that
as
if we
made those things up and we believe them without evidence.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Emily Watts
<emilywatts87@
wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues? Look at
all
the
other
things we believe that might be considered "impossible"
or
just
down
right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have
living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that
statues
are
real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a
representation of
lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- [/IMG][email protected], David Gannon
<teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but...
If
you
wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its
doing for
you,
what
would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would
just
want
to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No
joke
I'm
jealous.

[/QUOTE] [/TD]

 

[Don Danko]

Gargoyles where placed around the Templar sites and I believe they also hold spiritual allegories. The Templar's where Satanists:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JoSNewsletter/message/231 Levi [not his real name, he was a French Gentile] stated he used the image of the gargoyle for his famous baphomet image. But this image also has its roots in the ancient world such as Egypt and Greece which is revealing. They actually found an original Templar baphomet head in an ancient Templar building not that long ago. It was in a chest. The head [the Templars where stated to have worshipped] was life sized made of silver and was a womens head [Virgo the virgin] and within it was a white and red silk cloth tied together and a code inscripted inside the head which translates out to "perfected life." The women head is allegorical of Sophia and the divine consciousness of the fully risen serpent with the white and red channels being unified in the center of the head. Sophia is seen in the Templar buildings the catholic church is still squating on to this day. One such Templar site in France the entire front is a image of the human chakra system. Bapohmet means the same as baptize as stated the Templars worship of John the Baptist was actually Satan. As this was an ancient Pagan title for Onannes the Baptizer also called Jana or John in Greek: Gnosticism, Ego and Origins



To address the confusion spread by the enemy new age programs.

There is a nuuuu age author claiming the Templar's literally had the mummified
head of John the Bapist as a magical source of power.

John the Baptist is stolen from Oannes. Sal-om-e performs the dance of the seven
veils that has John beheaded and comes to posses the head on a silver plate. The
platter with the bloody head is another symbol of the grail from the Pagan time.

So this is all allegorical. Arthur also comes to posses the head of Bran the
Blessed he finds under a tower on white hill. The symbolism behind this is
obvious. Arthur's saga is from the Pagan cycle.


As I wrote in an article John of the Templars is Jnana [Oana] another title for
Satan in sanskirt " Wisdom." Which as Higgin's showed is also Oanes The Greeks
spelled John as Ioannes. Higgin's showed that the title Oannes is the source of
term gnosis. As is well known by scholars, Oannes is the Sumerian EA [Satan].

So much for the xian claims to gnosticism . Their fake gospels [wrote by the
jewish theraputes who created xianity in Alexandria] are corruptions of the
Pagan gnostic texts and are made in the image of the Pagan spiritual teachings
to corrupt them. Trojan horse psychological virus.

There is no xian gnosticism, just jewish corruptions of gnosticism [literally
Oannesism].

Oannes is also shown holding a cauldron and a pinecone. The cauldron is the
earliest symbol of the grail from the Pagan world. The pinecone the pineal gland
the seat of the soul in which the reborn conscious manifests with the ascent of
the power. "The head at the center of the earth."

Oannes baptism is that of the water of the kundalini energy in which one emerges
from reborn. In ancient Drudic legends the warrior is flung into the cauldron
and emerges reborn.etc

Gnosis being obtained with the rise of this power is the symbolic fact one has
obtained the state of Oana. As Oannes [Satan] is also symbolic of the serpent
power and its risen state of consciousness.

Satan is the Lord of the Grail.

This is also the Green Man and the Baphomet which was also a head the Templars
where said to worship. Its allegorical. We also see the images of the divine
phallus with a human head or the images of the divine serpent with a human head
[ressurrected state of consciousness]. etc Both the Baphomet and the Green Man
represent the kundalini energy and regeneration of the divine state.


The enemy plays a game of tricknology in which they claim "oh those guys where
worshipping John the Baptist and jewsus.' When in reality they where worshipping
the Gods of whom the enemy later stole their symbolic images and turned into
enemy characters and corruptions. In their bible scam. The catholic church
didn't come to power in N.W Europe till the 14th century. The Pagan religion was
still in existance all over the place. They worked to rewrite history but can't
get it all.

As a another note the habit of painting oneself white with clay or ash in India
for spiritual festivals comes from the Pagan world. The head of the parade in
honor of Dionysus would be naked and painted white clay and carry the divine
phallus or other sacred icon. The white stands for  the white stage of the
purified sol. The nakedness the sign of rebirth.etc We have still identical
themes in Western culture of this, the maypole which is obvious as to its
meaning. Along with the old custom of the naked maiden on the white horse. Which
was carried on in England till the purtians shut it down in the 16/17th century.

The fool card in the tarot was originally call the Soeul card. The spiritual
path of the hero is literally the path of the Sun. Hero comes from the name of
Heros[Sun God].

The death of the ego as enlightenment as part of this process is corrupted. The
ancients stated the death of the old consciousness [ego] is when the serpent
raises rebirthing you into the super ego or consciousness. The ancient texts
stated this but the death of the old consciouness [ego] as the process of the
birth of super consciousness [ego] is left out of many texts and books. Your ego
is your individual consciousness [psyche] hence its you and its connected to the
sol-ar principal for a reason.

You can see this in the beheading motif's as mentioned before. Ganesha has an
elephant head for this reason as Siva's trident [symbol of cutting aspect of the
power rising] beheads and kills him. Siva then brings him back to life [rebirth]
by fixing an elephant head to his body. The elephant is the symbol of the root
charka where the kundalini energy sits. Obviously the elephant head is the
symbol of his rebirth by raising the serpent and the superconscious that comes
with it. We also come back to the fact Siva is another alias of Satan.

The process is purification and transformation of the ego [psyche] to its pure
state not wiping it out and becoming a borg drone like the enemy pushes. When
people today cry about egoism they are actually crying about weak ego's with
numerous pathologies [karma's] that manifest in such condition.

They repeat the enemy lie of the ego as the problem in itself. Not the state of
the ego as the issue.

Some of this has been mentioned before. But I wish to go into it some more.

Union with God comes from the term Yoga and is one of the most used but little
understood phases around. I hear it all the time from the confused crowd in the
corrupted systems of Yoga. They can't explain what it means when questioned.

The term God comes from the Sanskrit Deva. The Brahmin's stated Deva was the
power behind the sun. The sun they are speaking of is the spiritual sun [life
force]. This is why our word for soul comes from Sol [sun].

What this is saying is Yoga is the unification [perfection] of the sol.
God[Deva, inner sun] as stated is an ancient term for the spiritual energy that
makes up your soul or consciousness [not a man in the sky]. All the Gods that
represent this process are sun Gods. This is also why many ancient Gods are
carpenters from Surya and on. Wood symbolizes the element of ether. Hence the
obvious the cross or tree is always made of this element. Any who understands
the elements knows why this is important. The terms for carpenter Gods and
serpent also hold identical meaning.

This is why in some ancient tales the Yogi literally ascends from the earth into
the sun.


From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: "JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups com" <[email protected]; "emilywatts87@..." <emilywatts87@...
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:59:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: gargoyles
 

<td style="font:[/IMG]That awesome another Satanic family like us.Glad you both found us.We kind of grew up in this group together.



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From: Emily Watts <emilywatts87@...;
To: <[email protected];
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: gargoyles
Sent: Sun, Oct 28, 2012 6:20:02 PM

<td style="font:[/IMG]   That's aweso[/IMG]the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

  Thanks! I've been dedicated since Spring Equinox 2007, but I first found JoS in May 2006.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@... wrote:

How long have you been SS fire starter? You are a wealth of useful &
insightful information!
On Oct 28, 2012 1:01 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

**


They don't get offended, but why offer something that they can't use
anyway? A drawing or incense are good offerings though, and anything
artistic in general is good as they do look and appreciate them. Art always
has a meaning that goes much deeper than it's physical representation. I
mean when you see a drawing, why do you appreciate it? Physically speaking
it's nothing more than a bunch of mixed colors and lines and shapes. But of
course many of us do like it because of the strong emotions and meaning
behind it and/or the connection with the person it depicts (if it depicts
someone). Same with the Gods.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

I was actually talking about that with my husband last night. We know
that
the Demons never demand offerings, but we were wondering, would it be
acceptable to give something physical to them as a thank you gift? Say,
incense, found items, drawings, etc.? What I'm asking is, if the
practitioner feels moved to give a physical "offering" would they be
offended?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:48 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Like I said they do appear in some other form but rarely, depending on
many reasons. For example some person said here he sees Anubis/Ipos as
jackal headed exactly like the Egyptian version.

But that guy who saw a gargoyle obviously saw a lesser Demon because
that's how they usually look like. I don't question that at all. My
reply
was to that other guy who asked what to feed a gargoyle.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

I actually did read that post from HP Maxine. But did what I say make
sense
too?
On Oct 28, 2012 12:38 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Rarely. What they usually do after they were freed is they take the
form
that is consistent with their physical body. That's the reason for
example
HPS Maxine said when she first communicated with the Gods she
expected
to
see monsters but surprisingly they were very beautiful more
beautiful
than
humans and human-looking.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Emily Watts <emilywatts87@
wrote:

But depending upon the knowledge/beliefs of the person concerned,
wouldn't
it be pheasable that an entity might present theirself in a form
most
acceptable to the person they want to see them? Perhaps the
person
who
saw
the gargoyle had a perconcieved notion in their subconcious that
gargoyle=form of demon, demon=guardian, my guardian=gargoyle.
This
is all
just theoretical of course, but it sounds plausable to me.
On Oct 28, 2012 12:23 PM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


I don't know if an astral being can take a form of a living
statue
the
same way you saw these footprints and that warrior being
astrally
but
can't
really have a physical living statue, especially one that eats
meat or
eats
things in general like that trolling question that person
asked.
These
gargoyles are astral beings, lesser Demons (this has been
explained in
JoS)
not in the physical now. One shouldn't really confuse astral
experiences
with physical things, those people who are astrally open will
be
called
crazy if they astrally see something in a room that other
people
who
aren't
there can see. But if that living statue was on the physical
everyone
would
see it.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Emily Watts
<emilywatts87@
wrote:

Then I misworded my response and apologize for that, but
honestly,
how
many
things have we seen & experienced that others either can't or
won't.
Check
out my experience in the destruction ritual thread from last
night.
How
many 'normal' people would read that & write me off as
schizophrenic
or
just plain lying? If I can experience a huge, muscle-bound
demon
&
burning
footprints, why can't someone else experience living statues?
On Oct 28, 2012 11:45 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


All those things that seem impossible to outsiders are
proven
fact
for
people who have experiences. We don't merely believe them,
but
have
been
confirmed either by experiences or by the Gods. You're
about
that
as
if we
made those things up and we believe them without evidence.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Emily Watts
<emilywatts87@
wrote:

Well honestly why not believe in living statues? Look at
all
the
other
things we believe that might be considered "impossible"
or
just
down
right
"crazy". I mean, we're Gods in training, why not have
living
artwork/guardians?
On Oct 28, 2012 4:39 AM, "the_fire_starter666" <
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

**


Trolling question. You don't actually believe that
statues
are
real
beings? As it's been said gargoyles are merely a
representation of
lesser
Gods/Daemons who aren't physically here but astrally.

--- [/IMG][email protected], David Gannon
<teammgannon@
wrote:

This answer might be wrong and inappropriate but...
If
you
wanted to
feed a gargoyle to show appreciation for what its
doing for
you,
what
would
they eat? My first thought is raw meat like steak.
I hope the gods don't find me disrespectful. I would
just
want
to be
ready if this ever happened to me. Serious business. No
joke
I'm
jealous.

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