Friendlessness

[Draco Majinn]

Hello there is something I wanted to share here not just for personal reasons but also because I think it's quite an interesting thought about planets and elements and touches on something which doesn't often come up in these group discussions.

The more experienced in these groups will know the air element is the element which is most involved in socializing and friendships.
And for those of us who have Saturn in Aquarius will know it can limit socializing and access to social groups. I have this placement like everyone my age of course.
But in addition I have no other planets in air signs besides this and nor do I have a planet in Leo which is also a sign which attracts big social circles.

My whole life I have never had a social circle or friends. From kinder garden, all through school, college and work, until the present.
Not only that but I don't even give thought to it often, the only time I have ever felt the need to make friends was when other people teased me about being a loner, I felt I had to make friends for egotistical reasons and of course because I was only doing it for image sake and wasn't actually interested in socializing, these friendships didn't last.

Those of you who have more knowledge on this subject, elements, planets and friends or who can relate to it in some way please share your thoughts.
And those of you who are blessed with lots of friends and big social circles, please also tell your stories.

 

[f.follets]

People who don't feel the need to socialise usually have the majority of planets on the northern hemisphere and/or the oriental side of the chart. It really depends primarily on the house positions.

The position of Venus and the Moon are common indicators of a person's social life. I believe there's absolutely nothing wrong with being alone if you don't really care or feel bad about it.

I myself have the need to have friends. I feel very bad without them, but this doesn't seem to be your case though.

I have a strong Venus in the 11th house, for example, so my social circles while not that big, are very close and important to me. I know a lot of people, but only very few are friends. Along with other reinforcing placements, I guess I can say my social life is, by common sense, "healthy". However, I also have my Moon loosely conjunct Saturn, and Chiron opposing both of them. Problems in this area arise from time to time. I've had certain periods on my life in which I was almost entirely isolated from everyone; needless to say, these were periods of deep depression.

Aquarius (and, by extension, the 11th house) is very concerned with socialising, but in a different way. While it tends to communicate with many people, it picks only few (if any) to be friends with. The Internet is the perfect Aquarian mean of communication, because here you can be with big groups of people without really relating to them. It satisfies the sign's basic needs perfectly.

Water signs (Pisces not much so) are concerned with connecting emotionally with other people, so a lack of water may also indicate little need to have friends and/or relationships in general.

Air signs need other people's minds and Water signs need other people's hearts.

People with emphasis in the transpersonal/universal signs (Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces) are less concerned with individuals and more with large groups. Some of them aren't concerned with people at all.

I know a person who has only one planet in a water sign and only one in an air sign, and feels almost no need to be with people, have friends or relationships; but I know another person who also has only one planet in an air sign and one in a water sign who is very popular, has a lot of friends and loves being with other people. The difference is that the former has most planets in the 12th house (house of seclusion) while the latter has the Sun, Venus and the Moon in the 7th house (house of relationships).

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Draco Majinn" <xxrygelxx@... wrote:

Hello there is something I wanted to share here not just for personal reasons but also because I think it's quite an interesting thought about planets and elements and touches on something which doesn't often come up in these group discussions.

The more experienced in these groups will know the air element is the element which is most involved in socializing and friendships.
And for those of us who have Saturn in Aquarius will know it can limit socializing and access to social groups. I have this placement like everyone my age of course.
But in addition I have no other planets in air signs besides this and nor do I have a planet in Leo which is also a sign which attracts big social circles.

My whole life I have never had a social circle or friends. From kinder garden, all through school, college and work, until the present.
Not only that but I don't even give thought to it often, the only time I have ever felt the need to make friends was when other people teased me about being a loner, I felt I had to make friends for egotistical reasons and of course because I was only doing it for image sake and wasn't actually interested in socializing, these friendships didn't last.

Those of you who have more knowledge on this subject, elements, planets and friends or who can relate to it in some way please share your thoughts.
And those of you who are blessed with lots of friends and big social circles, please also tell your stories.

 

[ch_3_coo]

I have Saturn in Aquarius as well, I've rarely had more than one or two people that I consider friends at a time. Many Satanists seem to have been born in the time when Saturn was in Aquarius, I always believed it helped us to become Satanists by making us feel separate from the herd.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Draco Majinn" <xxrygelxx@... wrote:

Hello there is something I wanted to share here not just for personal reasons but also because I think it's quite an interesting thought about planets and elements and touches on something which doesn't often come up in these group discussions.

The more experienced in these groups will know the air element is the element which is most involved in socializing and friendships.
And for those of us who have Saturn in Aquarius will know it can limit socializing and access to social groups. I have this placement like everyone my age of course.
But in addition I have no other planets in air signs besides this and nor do I have a planet in Leo which is also a sign which attracts big social circles.

My whole life I have never had a social circle or friends. From kinder garden, all through school, college and work, until the present.
Not only that but I don't even give thought to it often, the only time I have ever felt the need to make friends was when other people teased me about being a loner, I felt I had to make friends for egotistical reasons and of course because I was only doing it for image sake and wasn't actually interested in socializing, these friendships didn't last.

Those of you who have more knowledge on this subject, elements, planets and friends or who can relate to it in some way please share your thoughts.
And those of you who are blessed with lots of friends and big social circles, please also tell your stories.

 

[Valkyrie Vixen]

I have my Venus in Leo, my rising sign in Leo and my Moon in Aquarius. As you said, I'm one of those that has never needed a friend. Its difficult to balance all the friend circles I have and it genuinely upsets me when a friend of mine is ostracized from the group. Just saw a situation that is affecting me in that way not 60 seconds ago.... If this is not your focus don't worry about it. I've never had to worry about it because socializing comes naturally, and my aura demands respect out of those I interact with, lest they deal accordingly. I know I wouldn't feel satisfied if I didn't connect on a friendship level to many people, as my friends are a huge part of my life and connection with the gods. Hail Satan!
Hail Lilith!
Hail Astaroth!
Hail Gomory! <3

**Little Miss Satanist**
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*Valkyrie Vixen*From: "Draco Majinn" <xxrygelxx@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 12:34:12 -0000To: <[email protected]ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Friendlessness
  Hello there is something I wanted to share here not just for personal reasons but also because I think it's quite an interesting thought about planets and elements and touches on something which doesn't often come up in these group discussions.

The more experienced in these groups will know the air element is the element which is most involved in socializing and friendships.
And for those of us who have Saturn in Aquarius will know it can limit socializing and access to social groups. I have this placement like everyone my age of course.
But in addition I have no other planets in air signs besides this and nor do I have a planet in Leo which is also a sign which attracts big social circles.

My whole life I have never had a social circle or friends. From kinder garden, all through school, college and work, until the present.
Not only that but I don't even give thought to it often, the only time I have ever felt the need to make friends was when other people teased me about being a loner, I felt I had to make friends for egotistical reasons and of course because I was only doing it for image sake and wasn't actually interested in socializing, these friendships didn't last.

Those of you who have more knowledge on this subject, elements, planets and friends or who can relate to it in some way please share your thoughts.
And those of you who are blessed with lots of friends and big social circles, please also tell your stories.

 

[m_18]

<td val[/IMG]It is common to have friends with Jupiter in your sun sign.

I have Saturn in Capricorn.

--- On Wed, 7/4/12, ch_3_coo <ch_3_coo@... wrote:

From: ch_3_coo <ch_3_coo@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: Friendlessness
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 9:20 AM

  I have Saturn in Aquarius as well, I've rarely had more than one or two people that I consider friends at a time. Many Satanists seem to have been born in the time when Saturn was in Aquarius, I always believed it helped us to become Satanists by making us feel separate from the herd.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "Draco Majinn" <xxrygelxx@... wrote:

Hello there is something I wanted to share here not just for personal reasons but also because I think it's quite an interesting thought about planets and elements and touches on something which doesn't often come up in these group discussions.

The more experienced in these groups will know the air element is the element which is most involved in socializing and friendships.
And for those of us who have Saturn in Aquarius will know it can limit socializing and access to social groups. I have this placement like everyone my age of course.
But in addition I have no other planets in air signs besides this and nor do I have a planet in Leo which is also a sign which attracts big social circles.

My whole life I have never had a social circle or friends. From kinder garden, all through school, college and work, until the present.
Not only that but I don't even give thought to it often, the only time I have ever felt the need to make friends was when other people teased me about being a loner, I felt I had to make friends for egotistical reasons and of course because I was only doing it for image sake and wasn't actually interested in socializing, these friendships didn't last.

Those of you who have more knowledge on this subject, elements, planets and friends or who can relate to it in some way please share your thoughts.
And those of you who are blessed with lots of friends and big social circles, please also tell your stories.

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[Draco Majinn]

Yup. I've noticed that a lot myself actually. Jupiter in your Sun sign is one of the most beneficial or placements for finances and general good fortune and opportunities, perhaps rivaled only by Jupiter trine Sun.
Also both Capricorn and Aquarius are very good places to have Saturn. Capricorn because it puts Saturns restricting and inhibiting energies to good use with self discipline and dedication and Aquarius because it neutralizes the authoritarian voice in your subconscious that tells you 'No and you can't'.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], m_18 <magus_18@... wrote:

It is common to have friends with Jupiter in your sun sign.

I have Saturn in Capricorn.


--- On Wed, 7/4/12, ch_3_coo <ch_3_coo@... wrote:

From: ch_3_coo <ch_3_coo@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: Friendlessness
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 9:20 AM
















 









I have Saturn in Aquarius as well, I've rarely had more than one or two people that I consider friends at a time. Many Satanists seem to have been born in the time when Saturn was in Aquarius, I always believed it helped us to become Satanists by making us feel separate from the herd.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Draco Majinn" <xxrygelxx@ wrote:



Hello there is something I wanted to share here not just for personal reasons but also because I think it's quite an interesting thought about planets and elements and touches on something which doesn't often come up in these group discussions.



The more experienced in these groups will know the air element is the element which is most involved in socializing and friendships.

And for those of us who have Saturn in Aquarius will know it can limit socializing and access to social groups. I have this placement like everyone my age of course.

But in addition I have no other planets in air signs besides this and nor do I have a planet in Leo which is also a sign which attracts big social circles.



My whole life I have never had a social circle or friends. From kinder garden, all through school, college and work, until the present.

Not only that but I don't even give thought to it often, the only time I have ever felt the need to make friends was when other people teased me about being a loner, I felt I had to make friends for egotistical reasons and of course because I was only doing it for image sake and wasn't actually interested in socializing, these friendships didn't last.



Those of you who have more knowledge on this subject, elements, planets and friends or who can relate to it in some way please share your thoughts.

And those of you who are blessed with lots of friends and big social circles, please also tell your stories.

 

[ch_3_coo]

Yea wow now that I checked both of my good friends have their Jupiter in my Sun sign.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], m_18 <magus_18@... wrote:

It is common to have friends with Jupiter in your sun sign.

I have Saturn in Capricorn.


--- On Wed, 7/4/12, ch_3_coo <ch_3_coo@... wrote:

From: ch_3_coo <ch_3_coo@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: Friendlessness
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 9:20 AM
















 









I have Saturn in Aquarius as well, I've rarely had more than one or two people that I consider friends at a time. Many Satanists seem to have been born in the time when Saturn was in Aquarius, I always believed it helped us to become Satanists by making us feel separate from the herd.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Draco Majinn" <xxrygelxx@ wrote:



Hello there is something I wanted to share here not just for personal reasons but also because I think it's quite an interesting thought about planets and elements and touches on something which doesn't often come up in these group discussions.



The more experienced in these groups will know the air element is the element which is most involved in socializing and friendships.

And for those of us who have Saturn in Aquarius will know it can limit socializing and access to social groups. I have this placement like everyone my age of course.

But in addition I have no other planets in air signs besides this and nor do I have a planet in Leo which is also a sign which attracts big social circles.



My whole life I have never had a social circle or friends. From kinder garden, all through school, college and work, until the present.

Not only that but I don't even give thought to it often, the only time I have ever felt the need to make friends was when other people teased me about being a loner, I felt I had to make friends for egotistical reasons and of course because I was only doing it for image sake and wasn't actually interested in socializing, these friendships didn't last.



Those of you who have more knowledge on this subject, elements, planets and friends or who can relate to it in some way please share your thoughts.

And those of you who are blessed with lots of friends and big social circles, please also tell your stories.

 

[purplenurplei]

I don't know how much of a blessing it is to have a huge social circle, but I can tell you it's been one hell of an adventure. It's probably the aq AC and air placements with pluto through the 11th. I was always that chick with friends from every corner of the school to every corner of the city... Still kind of am. Idk wtf I'm doing with people or what need they have in my life at this moment, hmm. Well... "friends". For me being around people has always been my way of building communication skills, buiding understanding. learning about all of the different types of people, (also incase we ever need something I have a lot of people who'd have my back aka sometimes i use people who are without that i dont care for. cant blame me), and self expression. For some reason, when I get around large groups of people, I'm more myself than ever and I just work well with people! And at other times I'm really off in the distance. I still need my time alone away from everyone., It's two extremes for me bbut it's not a bad thing that you're like that w/. saturn. I wish I could be more like that sometimes!
everything has it's ups and downs though!

I have saturn in pisces
It's.....shitty as any saturn placement almost.
Even when I know I don't want to put myself in danger it's like I subconciously lead myself in a destructive path. Or when it's not that I take everything out on myself. Workin on it though. It's actually not that bad of a placement, I always get to fix my own faults because I know where I go wrong in all of the situations i'm in!


My brother has saturn in aqaurius and a sun in libra.
he's "friends" with absolutely He thrives off of attention .< but won't actually get close with even his girlfriend of three years, I can just see this internal battle. He wants to be loved and wants to be himself at the same time and he won't let himself and it's a vicious cycle. so it's like... gain a bunch of followers find a person he really likes tries to be close backstabs and ditches that person
then a venus in scorpio. so he's exactly like that with his girlfriend above but he won't let go he's so sextremely dominating over it. it's like a movie., i wonder where this will go....

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Draco Majinn" <xxrygelxx@... wrote:

Hello there is something I wanted to share here not just for personal reasons but also because I think it's quite an interesting thought about planets and elements and touches on something which doesn't often come up in these group discussions.

The more experienced in these groups will know the air element is the element which is most involved in socializing and friendships.
And for those of us who have Saturn in Aquarius will know it can limit socializing and access to social groups. I have this placement like everyone my age of course.
But in addition I have no other planets in air signs besides this and nor do I have a planet in Leo which is also a sign which attracts big social circles.

My whole life I have never had a social circle or friends. From kinder garden, all through school, college and work, until the present.
Not only that but I don't even give thought to it often, the only time I have ever felt the need to make friends was when other people teased me about being a loner, I felt I had to make friends for egotistical reasons and of course because I was only doing it for image sake and wasn't actually interested in socializing, these friendships didn't last.

Those of you who have more knowledge on this subject, elements, planets and friends or who can relate to it in some way please share your thoughts.
And those of you who are blessed with lots of friends and big social circles, please also tell your stories.