Fluor

[Taol]

Hey centralforce666,

I just came from the dentist and what was supposed to be a small hole turned out to be a huge gap ...

So I was wondering, do you brush with toothpaste that has fluor in it? I am suspicious about these claims because I did stop using those and now this. ... ?


Also do you have any information on Sugar related problems?


Wish you a good day,

- Taol

 

[centralforce6661]

I have not used fluoride toothpaste for quite some time now.

I use a herbal toothpaste which contains Aloe vera and some other extracts. It is not expensive at all.

Teeth health is dependent on healthy kidney energy almost entirely. Needless to say, taking in a lot of refined sugars is a surefire way to weaken the kidney energy.

Is this what you mean by sugar problems?

 

[Taol]

No not exactly about the sugar but thanks anyway. That's a piece of information that I did not know.

About the kidney energy.. that lowers when you are having stress or just feel unsafe right? Like feeling unsafe at home in example or has it got more to do with genetics?

I also got a recommendation for toothpaste from my classmates. Not entirely sure what exactly those are I'd have to do a search on that.



Also if your kidney energy is low does it affect the whole body as well?

 

[Gerecht Ror1]

Forget Fluoride, try to cut it off from toothpaste, tap water (in many country fluoride is added), artificial foods, supplements (some of them might contain in) and although I am no chemical expert I'd avoid cooking in many frying pans/pots with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene PTFE (aka Teflon) base in them as it is made with fluoride.

 

[centralforce6661]

What were your questions in regards to sugar?

Kidney energy depletes for many reasons but overwork over a long period can deplete it yes.

Fear is also the emotional state which injures the kidneys so fear, especially when chronic can damage the kidney energy, and since kidney energy is the foundation of the whole body it's depletion will affect the whole body yes.

It also concerns genetics. Just to clarify too, stress may impair the kidney energy to a degree but fear damages it directly. Stress in itself tends to damage the spleen (pancreas) more directly.

 

[james marshall]

Is there any meditation or rune that can be used to stimulate and empower the kidneys? Also on an unrelated note what about the same for your liver?

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 5:01 PM, "ivyissexy69@... [SSHealth]" <[email protected] wrote:


  What were your questions in regards to sugar?

Kidney energy depletes for many reasons but overwork over a long period can deplete it yes.

Fear is also the emotional state which injures the kidneys so fear, especially when chronic can damage the kidney energy, and since kidney energy is the foundation of the whole body it's depletion will affect the whole body yes.

It also concerns genetics. Just to clarify too, stress may impair the kidney energy to a degree but fear damages it directly. Stress in itself tends to damage the spleen (pancreas) more directly.

 

[centralforce6661]

There are yoga poses which help to empower the kidneys. HP Lucius Oria has mentioned these in posts on the Asians for Satan prophpbb.com forums.

As for specific meditations, technically the workings of the Magnum Opus perfect and refine the Kidney Essence to become everlasting so there are no easy shortcuts there.

But the Yin/Yang Balancing breath I have written about in this group is a good start, as is the Chariot of Ra or circulating energy meditation.

Technically any rune that can be used for healing can be directed at the Kidneys or the Liver.

Is that the question you are asking in regards to the Liver?

 

[Taol]

Well just if you knew more about the whole effect on the body, since I heard it takes away stuff from your teeth as well? Not to mention diabetes, its roll in cancer etc.


Also about the kidneys, I was wondering since.. well. I was studying herbs with a teacher whom apparently has jewish genes. And she spoke about fear and kidney energy draining and stuff. And since the second year I enrolled I felt cramping up as I moved closer to class and even pain in my lower back with no substantial fear or anything at first. It was later on during long days, such as a practical week or the open days that I had pain there the first time.
Ehm.. yeah ok. And then the time over a year ago with friends that I got scared of something... And then another moment where in I was talking to my friend whom didn't feel well and scared because of the pills she was forced to take. I took over her emotion I think but my lower back did hurt though.

Just find that odd.


So good to know this though. Thanks for the information.

 

[centralforce6661]

Sugars are essential to life. Without glucose, we would all be very dead since our cells rely on it for energy, especially our nerve cells.

However, refined sugars are not required, and these are the ones which can both remove essential nutrients such as phosphorus from bone over time and lead to problems with sugar regulation hormones such as in diabetes. This is because excesses of sugar stimulate excessive insulin production which has an exhausting effect on pancreatic beta cells.

When we are talking about cancer, from a TCM perspective it can be caused by several different accumulated pathogens within the body including damp and phlegm, blood stagnation, toxic heat, cold coagulation, fire and any combination of those things plus a few more (rarely). Refined sugar falls under the category of damp and phlegm causing foods, when consumed out of balance to the remainder of the diet. Certainly one would not expect to get cancer from eating small and reasonable amounts of sugar but if the long term trend is towards consuming a significant amount of it in comparison with other, healthier foods then one runs the risk of creating the conditions within the body for that to occur. In some people these conditions might manifest as cancer in another person they may manifest as a very different disease like Multiple Sclerosis or some other neuro-degenerative illness. This is largely individual.

 

[Taol]

For the person who said something about not forcing onself to eat piles of raw vegetables...

It is possible to put the vegetables in boiling water for a few sec. They won't be raw then and thus a bit easier digestable without having lost the minerals and such you lose when you cook it (like making tea..)

 

[centralforce6661]

This idea that minerals and vitamins are lost from vegetable when they are cooked is not entirely correct.

In fact, cooking releases a lot of things from plant cells which our bodies cannot access normally when they are raw due to the fact that the plant cell wall is made from cellulose for which we do not have any enzymes to break down. So the vitamins and minerals inside the cell are completely unobtainable without first cooking the vegetables. This is why traditionally the Chinese diet has vegetables which have all been at least lightly cooked.

The idea that raw is better mostly comes from companies trying to sell blenders to people using some pretty loose science which doesn't stand up to reality.

Raw vegetables might be good though for reducing fire which is the opposite of a Yang deficiency.

 

[Taol]

The idea is that those vitamins and minerals end up in the water and since the water is usually not being reused but thrown away.. plus stuff being overcooked and what not..

 

[gerechtror@...]

I don't fully agree that vitamins and minerale are not available in raw vegetables. I feel this but I have no evidence, probably you mean some nutrients are less available? Can you please detail this as it is interesting!


A small tip: when I Cook vegetables, I Cook them in a frying pan (not teflon-made) with very few water (2/3 spoons, if it evaporates add again from time to time) and low flame and I cover the pan. This way I will not waste cooking water with possibly minerals in it, as the water is so few that it evaporates while cooking.
Also steam cooking seems healtier for similar reasons.


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This idea that minerals and vitamins are lost from vegetable when they are cooked is not entirely correct.


In fact, cooking releases a lot of things from plant cells which our bodies cannot access normally when they are raw due to the fact that the plant cell wall is made from cellulose for which we do not have any enzymes to break down. So the vitamins and minerals inside the cell are completely unobtainable without first cooking the vegetables. This is why traditionally the Chinese diet has vegetables which have all been at least lightly cooked.


The idea that raw is better mostly comes from companies trying to sell blenders to people using some pretty loose science which doesn't stand up to reality.


Raw vegetables might be good though for reducing fire which is the opposite of a Yang deficiency.

 

[talonjackman]

Gerecht it isn't that they are not available, but that they are not ACCESSIBLE. Humans do not have the enzymes to break down cellulose, which is what comprises the cell walls of plants, 'protecting' the plant, keeping us from getting at the nutrients. Cooking them slightly denatures the cell walls, making it so that the nutrients are more easily accessible to us.
This is scientific fact, just look up cellulase (the enzyme to break down cellulose) and the human body.

 

[Gerecht Ror1]

Thank you, I will go a bit deeper in this topic.
 


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Gerecht it isn't that they are not available, but that they are not ACCESSIBLE. Humans do not have the enzymes to break down cellulose, which is what comprises the cell walls of plants, 'protecting' the plant, keeping us from getting at the nutrients. Cooking them slightly denatures the cell walls, making it so that the nutrients are more easily accessible to us.


 
This is scientific fact, just look up cellulase (the enzyme to break down cellulose) and the human body.
 

 

[soutlaw92]

Cooking can make some vitamins more accessible but also can make some vitamins diminish such as Vitamin C which is heat and light sensitive. There should definitely be some kind of balance when it comes to your nutrition. 
As for juicing, your body is the best 'juicer" you have. 

When it comes to nutrition, the conditions of our soil from the start determine how nutrient dense our food is from the beginning.

HP Shannon

 

[james marshall]

To be fair juicing is a very good thing to do in the morning when it is good to have fruit to help kick start everything in your body. My recommendation is making a list of all the vitamins you need to help fix any issues you have, then look up what fruits are high in them for the morning and juice along with having some herbal tea that is warm with some lemon in it. Once your done with that you should either do your meditations next or have already done them. What does everything think. Should I add something else to this or is this a pretty good start?

On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 6:34 PM, "soutlaw92@... [SSHealth]" <[email protected] wrote:


  Cooking can make some vitamins more accessible but also can make some vitamins diminish such as Vitamin C which is heat and light sensitive. There should definitely be some kind of balance when it comes to your nutrition. 
As for juicing, your body is the best 'juicer" you have. 

When it comes to nutrition, the conditions of our soil from the start determine how nutrient dense our food is from the beginning.

HP Shannon

 

[luka.huijerman]

On this topic, I found a recipe for tooth paste that seems like it might be pretty good. 

It's not expensive either, haven't used it myself yet but soon I'm going to get the ingredients to try ot out for myself and see how it works. 

Here is the recipe:

[/IMG][*]Put all ingredients into bowl and mix well together. (You can also use a food processor for this)</li>[*]Remove homemade toothpaste and store in glass jar with a lid. If it starts to dry out, add a bit of water</li></ol>Sorry about the fond, I copied it from the website I found it at.

It was suggested there that instead of the Xylitol you use a bit of Stevia extract and if the taste is bad you can add more mint essential oil. 

The cinnemon or clove essential oil is just an extra for taste, it's not necessary. 
Also you don't need a toothpaste tube, because you can store it in a glass jar or something..

For the trace minerals it was suggested to use a concentrated form of an inland sea water extract, but I'm not sure how good that would really be..

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005BP ... Z3RPOH3ANJ

This is the stuff they recommend. It looks alright, atleast it doesn't seem to have been made from real biologically available minerals, but I don't know if it's treated with chemicals. I'm going to see if I can find a good supplement in my local health food store and if I can maybe the paste is still good without the trace minerals. 

I wanted to buy the theodent tooth paste, but to ship this to my house they incur ridiculous prices.. Over 50 euro's for 2 bottles... Fucked up.. 

If I can find a healthy aloe vera extract tooth paste like centralforce suggested I'll probably go for this one, but I thought I could share this with you. 

Also I'm still have trouble finding a good Calsium and Magnesium Taurate supplement.. The one HP shannon recommended is obviously the best one I've seen so far (The only one that contains both these components from natural scources) But the shipping costs make it unaffordable for me atm... 

 

[syer666]

Avoid backing soda. Now she is full of hemicals. And she also melt you tooths.
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  On this topic, I found a recipe for tooth paste that seems like it might be pretty good. 

It's not expensive either, haven't used it myself yet but soon I'm going to get the ingredients to try ot out for myself and see how it works. 

Here is the recipe:

[/IMG][*]Put all ingredients into bowl and mix well together. (You can also use a food processor for this)</li>[*]Remove homemade toothpaste and store in glass jar with a lid. If it starts to dry out, add a bit of water</li></ol>Sorry about the fond, I copied it from the website I found it at.

It was suggested there that instead of the Xylitol you use a bit of Stevia extract and if the taste is bad you can add more mint essential oil. 

The cinnemon or clove essential oil is just an extra for taste, it's not necessary. 
Also you don't need a toothpaste tube, because you can store it in a glass jar or something..

For the trace minerals it was suggested to use a concentrated form of an inland sea water extract, but I'm not sure how good that would really be..

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005BP ... Z3RPOH3ANJ

This is the stuff they recommend. It looks alright, atleast it doesn't seem to have been made from real biologically available minerals, but I don't know if it's treated with chemicals. I'm going to see if I can find a good supplement in my local health food store and if I can maybe the paste is still good without the trace minerals. 

I wanted to buy the theodent tooth paste, but to ship this to my house they incur ridiculous prices.. Over 50 euro's for 2 bottles... Fucked up.. 

If I can find a healthy aloe vera extract tooth paste like centralforce suggested I'll probably go for this one, but I thought I could share this with you. 

Also I'm still have trouble finding a good Calsium and Magnesium Taurate supplement.. The one HP shannon recommended is obviously the best one I've seen so far (The only one that contains both these components from natural scources) But the shipping costs make it unaffordable for me atm... 

 

[Taol]

It does sound like a good start.

On the toothpaste. I am absolutely NOT a fan of peppermint and I believe it is being used way too much. It might be a great antiseptic, but everyone has gotten used to the flavor. To me I never liked it, unless I am seriously not well or having headaches due to hard studying.

For the anti septic anti viral you probably could use tea tree oil.

About the aloe vera, I am not sure but by a classmate 'aloe vera toothgel' was recommended to me from Forever bright. If you look this up you will find that its name is slightly different but the Forever part sticks. I am not aware if they ship in the USA but where I live they seem to be having a special distributer.

 

[luka.huijerman]

I actually found a reletively cheap tea tree oil toothpaste which is completely made of natural ingredients, we'll see how that works. 

The only thing that I'm a little concerned about is if it also helps restore my enamel. Obviously I know Fluoride is a death sentence basically so I would never consider using it. 

I started eating more naturally grown vegetables which specifically have a higher magnesium content than other vegetables to make up for my lack of magnesium intake.

 

[talonjackman]

Luka, I have found that coconut oil has helped my teeth's enamel restore

 

[luka.huijerman]

Ooh really? Did you brush with it or something else?

 

[Taol]

baking soda does need sour to work.

Like brushing your teeth with lemon juice !

 

[talonjackman]

Luka I used a toothpaste recipe, that's worked really well.
3 tbs coconut oil3 tbs baking soda10 drops tea tree oil10 drops mint (I like the flavor)
And it's been working wonders for me