cusps

[ch_3_coo]

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

 

[m_18]

<td val[/IMG]My experience is that planets or points such as the POF, etc., if at the beginning of a sign, they are totally influenced by that sign. As you near the end, the influence starts to be more like the next sign & less like the sign that it is actually in. However, regardless of how close to the next sign, it is still in whatever sign that it is in. A cusp of a sign is not the next sign no matter how you slice it. The idea is that you are dividing the sign into the 3 modes, of 10 degrees for each mode - cardinal, fixed & mutable. So the end of the sign is a mutable phase of the sign.   Houses, at the begining of the house, I see as the same as above. However at the end of the house I see as a little different. I see more influence or total influence into the next house the closer you get. Sometimes as close as 10 degrees & for sure within 5 degrees. There also appears to be an increased effect of a planet or point at the mid-point of the house, but less powerful than the actual beginning of the house. Keep in mind that the houses & signs are not the same things.   Mid-points of 2 planets are very powerful & seem to act in the manner of a conjunction as best that I can tell.

--- On Mon, 1/14/13, ch_3_coo <ch_3_coo@... wrote:

From: ch_3_coo <ch_3_coo@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] cusps
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 10:39 AM

  I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

[/TD]

 

[Shannon Outlaw]

Magus_18, thank you. So knowledgeable in astrology


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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 5:08 PM EST m_18 wrote:

My experience is that planets or points such as the POF, etc., if at the beginning of a sign, they are totally influenced by that sign. As you near the end, the influence starts to be more like the next sign & less like the sign that it is actually in. However, regardless of how close to the next sign, it is still in whatever sign that it is in. A cusp of a sign is not the next sign no matter how you slice it. The idea is that you are dividing the sign into the 3 modes, of 10 degrees for each mode - cardinal, fixed & mutable. So the end of the sign is a mutable phase of the sign.
 
Houses, at the begining of the house, I see as the same as above. However at the end of the house I see as a little different. I see more influence or total influence into the next house the closer you get. Sometimes as close as 10 degrees & for sure within 5 degrees. There also appears to be an increased effect of a planet or point at the mid-point of the house, but less powerful than the actual beginning of the house. Keep in mind that the houses & signs are not the same things.
 
Mid-points of 2 planets are very powerful & seem to act in the manner of a conjunction as best that I can tell.


--- On Mon, 1/14/13, ch_3_coo <ch_3_coo@... wrote:


From: ch_3_coo <ch_3_coo@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 10:39 AM



 



I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

 

[robot_checkerboard13]

When I was born the sun was 0 degrees in cancer. So technically my sun sign is cancer, but I definitely feel way more Gemini than cancer. Which is strange since because the sun was at the beginning of cancer you would think the cancer influence would be much more strong. Most times I'm really unemotional and logical, but I can be really sensitive at times. I would say from a subjective point of view it feels like a 50-50 split. I feel like I have three personalities. It drives me insane because Gemini is already duel natured then throw in cancer and most of the time I feel like a stranger in my own body.

P.S.: I really had to control myself and try not to start just ranting on this subject. I can talk a subject dry. Yet another Gemini trait when I'm supposedly a cancer.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

 

[m_18]

<td val[/IMG]Then one has to then see why. Where is the Moon? What is the ascendant? Are there any other planets in Gemini? Etc., etc., etc. Additionally, age matters. We become more like our Sun sign over time. Our Moon tends to rule us as very young children, then the ascendant. Later in life, the Sun as maturity increases individuality (Sun). You are less like the herd. Most young adults think they are all so different, yet peer pressure pushes them to group (herd) confomity. The will even referee each other. Over time, you grow out of that. You stop giving a damn what your friends think of you.   I find Geminis to be very intelligent (air), but wish-washy (mutable). They can do a 180 on you in a heartbeat.

--- On Mon, 1/14/13, robot_checkerboard13 <robot_checkerboard13@... wrote:

From: robot_checkerboard13 <robot_checkerboard13@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 9:36 PM

  When I was born the sun was 0 degrees in cancer. So technically my sun sign is cancer, but I definitely feel way more Gemini than cancer. Which is strange since because the sun was at the beginning of cancer you would think the cancer influence would be much more strong. Most times I'm really unemotional and logical, but I can be really sensitive at times. I would say from a subjective point of view it feels like a 50-50 split. I feel like I have three personalities. It drives me insane because Gemini is already duel natured then throw in cancer and most of the time I feel like a stranger in my own body.

P.S.: I really had to control myself and try not to start just ranting on this subject. I can talk a subject dry. Yet another Gemini trait when I'm supposedly a cancer.

--- In [[email protected]][email protected][/email], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

[/TD]

 

[Shannon Outlaw]

I have sun mercury and venus in gemini it can be hard to not scatter myself about lol but its all good. I sometimes wish I atleast had my mercury in taurus or cancer to help me settle down my thoughts etc but meditation helps me become less wishy washy or skiddish.



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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 11:40 PM EST m_18 wrote:

Then one has to then see why. Where is the Moon? What is the ascendant? Are there any other planets in Gemini? Etc., etc., etc. Additionally, age matters. We become more like our Sun sign over time. Our Moon tends to rule us as very young children, then the ascendant. Later in life, the Sun as maturity increases individuality (Sun). You are less like the herd. Most young adults think they are all so different, yet peer pressure pushes them to group (herd) confomity. The will even referee each other. Over time, you grow out of that. You stop giving a damn what your friends think of you.
 
I find Geminis to be very intelligent (air), but wish-washy (mutable). They can do a 180 on you in a heartbeat.


--- On Mon, 1/14/13, robot_checkerboard13 <robot_checkerboard13@... wrote:


From: robot_checkerboard13 <robot_checkerboard13@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 9:36 PM



 



When I was born the sun was 0 degrees in cancer. So technically my sun sign is cancer, but I definitely feel way more Gemini than cancer. Which is strange since because the sun was at the beginning of cancer you would think the cancer influence would be much more strong. Most times I'm really unemotional and logical, but I can be really sensitive at times. I would say from a subjective point of view it feels like a 50-50 split. I feel like I have three personalities. It drives me insane because Gemini is already duel natured then throw in cancer and most of the time I feel like a stranger in my own body.

P.S.: I really had to control myself and try not to start just ranting on this subject. I can talk a subject dry. Yet another Gemini trait when I'm supposedly a cancer.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

 

[Shannon Outlaw]

whats your sun sign if you dont mind me asking?



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 11:58 AM EST m_18 wrote:

It's all part of the human experience as well as their own.
 
When a Gemini changes their mind, they will always have a reason that is correct to them.


--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@... wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@...
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 10:11 AM



 




I have sun mercury and venus in gemini it can be hard to not scatter myself about lol but its all good. I sometimes wish I atleast had my mercury in taurus or cancer to help me settle down my thoughts etc but meditation helps me become less wishy washy or skiddish.

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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 11:40 PM EST m_18 wrote:

Then one has to then see why. Where is the Moon? What is the ascendant? Are there any other planets in Gemini? Etc., etc., etc. Additionally, age matters. We become more like our Sun sign over time. Our Moon tends to rule us as very young children, then the ascendant. Later in life, the Sun as maturity increases individuality (Sun). You are less like the herd. Most young adults think they are all so different, yet peer pressure pushes them to group (herd) confomity. The will even referee each other. Over time, you grow out of that. You stop giving a damn what your friends think of you.
 
I find Geminis to be very intelligent (air), but wish-washy (mutable). They can do a 180 on you in a heartbeat.


--- On Mon, 1/14/13, robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@... wrote:


From: robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 9:36 PM



 



When I was born the sun was 0 degrees in cancer. So technically my sun sign is cancer, but I definitely feel way more Gemini than cancer. Which is strange since because the sun was at the beginning of cancer you would think the cancer influence would be much more strong. Most times I'm really unemotional and logical, but I can be really sensitive at times. I would say from a subjective point of view it feels like a 50-50 split. I feel like I have three personalities. It drives me insane because Gemini is already duel natured then throw in cancer and most of the time I feel like a stranger in my own body.

P.S.: I really had to control myself and try not to start just ranting on this subject. I can talk a subject dry. Yet another Gemini trait when I'm supposedly a cancer.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

 

[m_18]

<td val[/IMG]

<td style="FONT-FA[/IMG] I have my Sun at a very late degree of Libra*, cusp of Scorpio**. Moon, Mercury & Neptune in Scorpio. I have Pluto within 2 degrees of my Virgo ascendant. My Merucry & Moon are conjunct.   *Libra is cardinal air. Most descriptions of Libra are bullshit. Think tornado, hurricane, etc.   ** Add water, think waterspout or hurricane.
I am a Plutonian.  

--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@... wrote:

From: Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@...
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 11:13 AM

 
whats your sun sign if you dont mind me asking?

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 11:58 AM EST m_18 wrote:

It's all part of the human experience as well as their own.
 
When a Gemini changes their mind, they will always have a reason that is correct to them.


--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@... wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@...
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 10:11 AM



 




I have sun mercury and venus in gemini it can be hard to not scatter myself about lol but its all good. I sometimes wish I atleast had my mercury in taurus or cancer to help me settle down my thoughts etc but meditation helps me become less wishy washy or skiddish.

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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 11:40 PM EST m_18 wrote:

Then one has to then see why. Where is the Moon? What is the ascendant? Are there any other planets in Gemini? Etc., etc., etc. Additionally, age matters. We become more like our Sun sign over time. Our Moon tends to rule us as very young children, then the ascendant. Later in life, the Sun as maturity increases individuality (Sun). You are less like the herd. Most young adults think they are all so different, yet peer pressure pushes them to group (herd) confomity. The will even referee each other. Over time, you grow out of that. You stop giving a damn what your friends think of you.
 
I find Geminis to be very intelligent (air), but wish-washy (mutable). They can do a 180 on you in a heartbeat.


--- On Mon, 1/14/13, robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@... wrote:


From: robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 9:36 PM



 



When I was born the sun was 0 degrees in cancer. So technically my sun sign is cancer, but I definitely feel way more Gemini than cancer. Which is strange since because the sun was at the beginning of cancer you would think the cancer influence would be much more strong. Most times I'm really unemotional and logical, but I can be really sensitive at times. I would say from a subjective point of view it feels like a 50-50 split. I feel like I have three personalities. It drives me insane because Gemini is already duel natured then throw in cancer and most of the time I feel like a stranger in my own body.

P.S.: I really had to control myself and try not to start just ranting on this subject. I can talk a subject dry. Yet another Gemini trait when I'm supposedly a cancer.

--- In [[email protected]][email protected][/email], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

[/TD]

[/TD]

 

[Shannon Outlaw]

Lol Cool I have mercury and gemini in 4th house. Whats your sun and moon sign?



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 1:38 PM EST ch_3_coo wrote:

I love talking to Gemini people, it like activates my Mercury traits and my Mercury is in the 8th, the mental stimulation is a great feeling. Also Gemini is on the cusp of my 5th, fun and pleasure

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw wrote:


I have sun mercury and venus in gemini it can be hard to not scatter myself about lol but its all good. I sometimes wish I atleast had my mercury in taurus or cancer to help me settle down my thoughts etc but meditation helps me become less wishy washy or skiddish.



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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 11:40 PM EST m_18 wrote:

Then one has to then see why. Where is the Moon? What is the ascendant? Are there any other planets in Gemini? Etc., etc., etc. Additionally, age matters. We become more like our Sun sign over time. Our Moon tends to rule us as very young children, then the ascendant. Later in life, the Sun as maturity increases individuality (Sun). You are less like the herd. Most young adults think they are all so different, yet peer pressure pushes them to group (herd) confomity. The will even referee each other. Over time, you grow out of that. You stop giving a damn what your friends think of you.
 
I find Geminis to be very intelligent (air), but wish-washy (mutable). They can do a 180 on you in a heartbeat.


--- On Mon, 1/14/13, robot_checkerboard13 wrote:


From: robot_checkerboard13
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 9:36 PM



 



When I was born the sun was 0 degrees in cancer. So technically my sun sign is cancer, but I definitely feel way more Gemini than cancer. Which is strange since because the sun was at the beginning of cancer you would think the cancer influence would be much more strong. Most times I'm really unemotional and logical, but I can be really sensitive at times. I would say from a subjective point of view it feels like a 50-50 split. I feel like I have three personalities. It drives me insane because Gemini is already duel natured then throw in cancer and most of the time I feel like a stranger in my own body.

P.S.: I really had to control myself and try not to start just ranting on this subject. I can talk a subject dry. Yet another Gemini trait when I'm supposedly a cancer.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

 

[Shannon Outlaw]

Nice! I must admit I wish I had some scorpio in my chart though. For obvious reasons pertaining to its intense traits. Like Hp Maxine said mercury in scorpio is a placement for natural mages and or those gifted in controlling their thoughts etc. Oh well.



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 1:09 PM EST m_18 wrote:






I have my Sun at a very late degree of Libra*, cusp of Scorpio**. Moon, Mercury & Neptune in Scorpio. I have Pluto within 2 degrees of my Virgo ascendant. My Merucry & Moon are conjunct.
 
*Libra is cardinal air. Most descriptions of Libra are bullshit. Think tornado, hurricane, etc.
 
** Add water, think waterspout or hurricane.

I am a Plutonian.
 

--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@... wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@...
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 11:13 AM



 




whats your sun sign if you dont mind me asking?

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 11:58 AM EST m_18 wrote:

It's all part of the human experience as well as their own.
 
When a Gemini changes their mind, they will always have a reason that is correct to them.


--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@... wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@...
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 10:11 AM



 




I have sun mercury and venus in gemini it can be hard to not scatter myself about lol but its all good. I sometimes wish I atleast had my mercury in taurus or cancer to help me settle down my thoughts etc but meditation helps me become less wishy washy or skiddish.

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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 11:40 PM EST m_18 wrote:

Then one has to then see why. Where is the Moon? What is the ascendant? Are there any other planets in Gemini? Etc., etc., etc. Additionally, age matters. We become more like our Sun sign over time. Our Moon tends to rule us as very young children, then the ascendant. Later in life, the Sun as maturity increases individuality (Sun). You are less like the herd. Most young adults think they are all so different, yet peer pressure pushes them to group (herd) confomity. The will even referee each other. Over time, you grow out of that. You stop giving a damn what your friends think of you.
 
I find Geminis to be very intelligent (air), but wish-washy (mutable). They can do a 180 on you in a heartbeat.


--- On Mon, 1/14/13, robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@... wrote:


From: robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 9:36 PM



 



When I was born the sun was 0 degrees in cancer. So technically my sun sign is cancer, but I definitely feel way more Gemini than cancer. Which is strange since because the sun was at the beginning of cancer you would think the cancer influence would be much more strong. Most times I'm really unemotional and logical, but I can be really sensitive at times. I would say from a subjective point of view it feels like a 50-50 split. I feel like I have three personalities. It drives me insane because Gemini is already duel natured then throw in cancer and most of the time I feel like a stranger in my own body.

P.S.: I really had to control myself and try not to start just ranting on this subject. I can talk a subject dry. Yet another Gemini trait when I'm supposedly a cancer.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

 

[Shannon Outlaw]

I also have moon in libra and pisces rising. Mars in aries. My pluto is in less then 1 degree in the ninth house. My pluto is in scorpio.My chart ruler is conjunct uranus. Jupiter my co ruler is unaspected in virgo. Jupiter and virgo are in seventh house.



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 4:56 PM EST Shannon Outlaw wrote:


Nice! I must admit I wish I had some scorpio in my chart though. For obvious reasons pertaining to its intense traits. Like Hp Maxine said mercury in scorpio is a placement for natural mages and or those gifted in controlling their thoughts etc. Oh well.



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 1:09 PM EST m_18 wrote:






I have my Sun at a very late degree of Libra*, cusp of Scorpio**. Moon, Mercury & Neptune in Scorpio. I have Pluto within 2 degrees of my Virgo ascendant. My Merucry & Moon are conjunct.
 
*Libra is cardinal air. Most descriptions of Libra are bullshit. Think tornado, hurricane, etc.
 
** Add water, think waterspout or hurricane.

I am a Plutonian.
 

--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@... wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@...
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 11:13 AM



 




whats your sun sign if you dont mind me asking?

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 11:58 AM EST m_18 wrote:

It's all part of the human experience as well as their own.
 
When a Gemini changes their mind, they will always have a reason that is correct to them.


--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@... wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@...
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 10:11 AM



 




I have sun mercury and venus in gemini it can be hard to not scatter myself about lol but its all good. I sometimes wish I atleast had my mercury in taurus or cancer to help me settle down my thoughts etc but meditation helps me become less wishy washy or skiddish.

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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 11:40 PM EST m_18 wrote:

Then one has to then see why. Where is the Moon? What is the ascendant? Are there any other planets in Gemini? Etc., etc., etc. Additionally, age matters. We become more like our Sun sign over time. Our Moon tends to rule us as very young children, then the ascendant. Later in life, the Sun as maturity increases individuality (Sun). You are less like the herd. Most young adults think they are all so different, yet peer pressure pushes them to group (herd) confomity. The will even referee each other. Over time, you grow out of that. You stop giving a damn what your friends think of you.
 
I find Geminis to be very intelligent (air), but wish-washy (mutable). They can do a 180 on you in a heartbeat.


--- On Mon, 1/14/13, robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@... wrote:


From: robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 9:36 PM



 



When I was born the sun was 0 degrees in cancer. So technically my sun sign is cancer, but I definitely feel way more Gemini than cancer. Which is strange since because the sun was at the beginning of cancer you would think the cancer influence would be much more strong. Most times I'm really unemotional and logical, but I can be really sensitive at times. I would say from a subjective point of view it feels like a 50-50 split. I feel like I have three personalities. It drives me insane because Gemini is already duel natured then throw in cancer and most of the time I feel like a stranger in my own body.

P.S.: I really had to control myself and try not to start just ranting on this subject. I can talk a subject dry. Yet another Gemini trait when I'm supposedly a cancer.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

 

[Shannon Outlaw]

Sun moon and ascendant all in earth signs my uranus and neptune are in my 11th house. I have saturn in aquarius too. From my planetary placements I am a born loner and cant keep friends that area of my life never works out. I wish I had a close friend or two. Atleast I have my brothers and sisters in Satan my spiritual advancement is more important anyway.



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 5:27 PM EST ch_3_coo wrote:

Oh cool, I have Moon in Taurus Sun in Virgo, Capricorn rising Saturn in Aquarius, Venus in Libra square Neptune+Uranus both in the 12th conjunct my ascendant. Uranus in the 12th is good for developing psychic ability I guess if you like to freak out and wake up 10 times a night. 90s kids woot

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw wrote:


I also have moon in libra and pisces rising. Mars in aries. My pluto is in less then 1 degree in the ninth house. My pluto is in scorpio.My chart ruler is conjunct uranus. Jupiter my co ruler is unaspected in virgo. Jupiter and virgo are in seventh house.



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 4:56 PM EST Shannon Outlaw wrote:


Nice! I must admit I wish I had some scorpio in my chart though. For obvious reasons pertaining to its intense traits. Like Hp Maxine said mercury in scorpio is a placement for natural mages and or those gifted in controlling their thoughts etc. Oh well.



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 1:09 PM EST m_18 wrote:






I have my Sun at a very late degree of Libra*, cusp of Scorpio**. Moon, Mercury & Neptune in Scorpio. I have Pluto within 2 degrees of my Virgo ascendant. My Merucry & Moon are conjunct.
 
*Libra is cardinal air. Most descriptions of Libra are bullshit. Think tornado, hurricane, etc.
 
** Add water, think waterspout or hurricane.

I am a Plutonian.
 

--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 11:13 AM



 




whats your sun sign if you dont mind me asking?

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 11:58 AM EST m_18 wrote:

It's all part of the human experience as well as their own.
 
When a Gemini changes their mind, they will always have a reason that is correct to them.


--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@... wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@...
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 10:11 AM



 




I have sun mercury and venus in gemini it can be hard to not scatter myself about lol but its all good. I sometimes wish I atleast had my mercury in taurus or cancer to help me settle down my thoughts etc but meditation helps me become less wishy washy or skiddish.

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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 11:40 PM EST m_18 wrote:

Then one has to then see why. Where is the Moon? What is the ascendant? Are there any other planets in Gemini? Etc., etc., etc. Additionally, age matters. We become more like our Sun sign over time. Our Moon tends to rule us as very young children, then the ascendant. Later in life, the Sun as maturity increases individuality (Sun). You are less like the herd. Most young adults think they are all so different, yet peer pressure pushes them to group (herd) confomity. The will even referee each other. Over time, you grow out of that. You stop giving a damn what your friends think of you.
 
I find Geminis to be very intelligent (air), but wish-washy (mutable). They can do a 180 on you in a heartbeat.


--- On Mon, 1/14/13, robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@... wrote:


From: robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 9:36 PM



 



When I was born the sun was 0 degrees in cancer. So technically my sun sign is cancer, but I definitely feel way more Gemini than cancer. Which is strange since because the sun was at the beginning of cancer you would think the cancer influence would be much more strong. Most times I'm really unemotional and logical, but I can be really sensitive at times. I would say from a subjective point of view it feels like a 50-50 split. I feel like I have three personalities. It drives me insane because Gemini is already duel natured then throw in cancer and most of the time I feel like a stranger in my own body.

P.S.: I really had to control myself and try not to start just ranting on this subject. I can talk a subject dry. Yet another Gemini trait when I'm supposedly a cancer.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

 

[Shannon Outlaw]

I meant to say its cool that you have all 3 in earth signs



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 5:34 PM EST Shannon Outlaw wrote:


Sun moon and ascendant all in earth signs my uranus and neptune are in my 11th house. I have saturn in aquarius too. From my planetary placements I am a born loner and cant keep friends that area of my life never works out. I wish I had a close friend or two. Atleast I have my brothers and sisters in Satan my spiritual advancement is more important anyway.



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 5:27 PM EST ch_3_coo wrote:

Oh cool, I have Moon in Taurus Sun in Virgo, Capricorn rising Saturn in Aquarius, Venus in Libra square Neptune+Uranus both in the 12th conjunct my ascendant. Uranus in the 12th is good for developing psychic ability I guess if you like to freak out and wake up 10 times a night. 90s kids woot

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw wrote:


I also have moon in libra and pisces rising. Mars in aries. My pluto is in less then 1 degree in the ninth house. My pluto is in scorpio.My chart ruler is conjunct uranus. Jupiter my co ruler is unaspected in virgo. Jupiter and virgo are in seventh house.



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 4:56 PM EST Shannon Outlaw wrote:


Nice! I must admit I wish I had some scorpio in my chart though. For obvious reasons pertaining to its intense traits. Like Hp Maxine said mercury in scorpio is a placement for natural mages and or those gifted in controlling their thoughts etc. Oh well.



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 1:09 PM EST m_18 wrote:






I have my Sun at a very late degree of Libra*, cusp of Scorpio**. Moon, Mercury & Neptune in Scorpio. I have Pluto within 2 degrees of my Virgo ascendant. My Merucry & Moon are conjunct.
 
*Libra is cardinal air. Most descriptions of Libra are bullshit. Think tornado, hurricane, etc.
 
** Add water, think waterspout or hurricane.

I am a Plutonian.
 

--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 11:13 AM



 




whats your sun sign if you dont mind me asking?

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 11:58 AM EST m_18 wrote:

It's all part of the human experience as well as their own.
 
When a Gemini changes their mind, they will always have a reason that is correct to them.


--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@... wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@...
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 10:11 AM



 




I have sun mercury and venus in gemini it can be hard to not scatter myself about lol but its all good. I sometimes wish I atleast had my mercury in taurus or cancer to help me settle down my thoughts etc but meditation helps me become less wishy washy or skiddish.

------------------------------
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 11:40 PM EST m_18 wrote:

Then one has to then see why. Where is the Moon? What is the ascendant? Are there any other planets in Gemini? Etc., etc., etc. Additionally, age matters. We become more like our Sun sign over time. Our Moon tends to rule us as very young children, then the ascendant. Later in life, the Sun as maturity increases individuality (Sun). You are less like the herd. Most young adults think they are all so different, yet peer pressure pushes them to group (herd) confomity. The will even referee each other. Over time, you grow out of that. You stop giving a damn what your friends think of you.
 
I find Geminis to be very intelligent (air), but wish-washy (mutable). They can do a 180 on you in a heartbeat.


--- On Mon, 1/14/13, robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@... wrote:


From: robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 9:36 PM



 



When I was born the sun was 0 degrees in cancer. So technically my sun sign is cancer, but I definitely feel way more Gemini than cancer. Which is strange since because the sun was at the beginning of cancer you would think the cancer influence would be much more strong. Most times I'm really unemotional and logical, but I can be really sensitive at times. I would say from a subjective point of view it feels like a 50-50 split. I feel like I have three personalities. It drives me insane because Gemini is already duel natured then throw in cancer and most of the time I feel like a stranger in my own body.

P.S.: I really had to control myself and try not to start just ranting on this subject. I can talk a subject dry. Yet another Gemini trait when I'm supposedly a cancer.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

 

[m_18]

<td val[/IMG]Individual &/or close friends are 7th house. So you have Jupiter (expansion) in the sign of the bachelor/ette (Virgo) in the partnership/marriage (7th) house.   Groups are 11th.

--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@... wrote:

From: Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@...
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 4:34 PM

 
Sun moon and ascendant all in earth signs my uranus and neptune are in my 11th house. I have saturn in aquarius too. From my planetary placements I am a born loner and cant keep friends that area of my life never works out. I wish I had a close friend or two. Atleast I have my brothers and sisters in Satan my spiritual advancement is more important anyway.

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 5:27 PM EST ch_3_coo wrote:

Oh cool, I have Moon in Taurus Sun in Virgo, Capricorn rising Saturn in Aquarius, Venus in Libra square Neptune+Uranus both in the 12th conjunct my ascendant. Uranus in the 12th is good for developing psychic ability I guess if you like to freak out and wake up 10 times a night. 90s kids woot

--- In [[email protected]][email protected][/email], Shannon Outlaw wrote:


I also have moon in libra and pisces rising. Mars in aries. My pluto is in less then 1 degree in the ninth house. My pluto is in scorpio.My chart ruler is conjunct uranus. Jupiter my co ruler is unaspected in virgo. Jupiter and virgo are in seventh house.



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 4:56 PM EST Shannon Outlaw wrote:


Nice! I must admit I wish I had some scorpio in my chart though. For obvious reasons pertaining to its intense traits. Like Hp Maxine said mercury in scorpio is a placement for natural mages and or those gifted in controlling their thoughts etc. Oh well.



------------------------------
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 1:09 PM EST m_18 wrote:






I have my Sun at a very late degree of Libra*, cusp of Scorpio**. Moon, Mercury & Neptune in Scorpio. I have Pluto within 2 degrees of my Virgo ascendant. My Merucry & Moon are conjunct.
 
*Libra is cardinal air. Most descriptions of Libra are bullshit. Think tornado, hurricane, etc.
 
** Add water, think waterspout or hurricane.

I am a Plutonian.
 

--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 11:13 AM



 




whats your sun sign if you dont mind me asking?

------------------------------
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 11:58 AM EST m_18 wrote:

It's all part of the human experience as well as their own.
 
When a Gemini changes their mind, they will always have a reason that is correct to them.


--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@... wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@...
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 10:11 AM



 




I have sun mercury and venus in gemini it can be hard to not scatter myself about lol but its all good. I sometimes wish I atleast had my mercury in taurus or cancer to help me settle down my thoughts etc but meditation helps me become less wishy washy or skiddish.

------------------------------
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 11:40 PM EST m_18 wrote:

Then one has to then see why. Where is the Moon? What is the ascendant? Are there any other planets in Gemini? Etc., etc., etc. Additionally, age matters. We become more like our Sun sign over time. Our Moon tends to rule us as very young children, then the ascendant. Later in life, the Sun as maturity increases individuality (Sun). You are less like the herd. Most young adults think they are all so different, yet peer pressure pushes them to group (herd) confomity. The will even referee each other. Over time, you grow out of that. You stop giving a damn what your friends think of you.
 
I find Geminis to be very intelligent (air), but wish-washy (mutable). They can do a 180 on you in a heartbeat.


--- On Mon, 1/14/13, robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@... wrote:


From: robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 9:36 PM



 



When I was born the sun was 0 degrees in cancer. So technically my sun sign is cancer, but I definitely feel way more Gemini than cancer. Which is strange since because the sun was at the beginning of cancer you would think the cancer influence would be much more strong. Most times I'm really unemotional and logical, but I can be really sensitive at times. I would say from a subjective point of view it feels like a 50-50 split. I feel like I have three personalities. It drives me insane because Gemini is already duel natured then throw in cancer and most of the time I feel like a stranger in my own body.

P.S.: I really had to control myself and try not to start just ranting on this subject. I can talk a subject dry. Yet another Gemini trait when I'm supposedly a cancer.

--- In [[email protected]][email protected][/email], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

[/TD]

 

[ch_3_coo]

Oh hey that's why you're good at astrology. Ahead of our time as well don't really fit in with society you know. I have Uranus 6 degrees from the ascendant then Neptune there 4 degrees away doing what Neptune does.
Hitler had 12 house Uranus too, I'd say we're pretty cool then

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], m_18 wrote:

I have Uranus in my 12th H about 10 degrees above my ascendant (wide conjunction), but not close enough to my Pluto to be a conjunction with it.
 
However, there is a power point right above my ascendant where the Uranus-Pluto midpoint conjuncts my Uranus-Ascendant midpoint. This conjunction of 2 midpoints then also have a midpoint.
 
Of course Pluto & my ascendant also have a midpoint that conjuncts each of themselves as they are within 2 degrees of each other.
 

--- On Tue, 1/15/13, ch_3_coo wrote:


From: ch_3_coo
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 4:27 PM



 



Oh cool, I have Moon in Taurus Sun in Virgo, Capricorn rising Saturn in Aquarius, Venus in Libra square Neptune+Uranus both in the 12th conjunct my ascendant. Uranus in the 12th is good for developing psychic ability I guess if you like to freak out and wake up 10 times a night. 90s kids woot

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw wrote:


I also have moon in libra and pisces rising. Mars in aries. My pluto is in less then 1 degree in the ninth house. My pluto is in scorpio.My chart ruler is conjunct uranus. Jupiter my co ruler is unaspected in virgo. Jupiter and virgo are in seventh house.



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 4:56 PM EST Shannon Outlaw wrote:


Nice! I must admit I wish I had some scorpio in my chart though. For obvious reasons pertaining to its intense traits. Like Hp Maxine said mercury in scorpio is a placement for natural mages and or those gifted in controlling their thoughts etc. Oh well.



------------------------------
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 1:09 PM EST m_18 wrote:






I have my Sun at a very late degree of Libra*, cusp of Scorpio**. Moon, Mercury & Neptune in Scorpio. I have Pluto within 2 degrees of my Virgo ascendant. My Merucry & Moon are conjunct.
 
*Libra is cardinal air. Most descriptions of Libra are bullshit. Think tornado, hurricane, etc.
 
** Add water, think waterspout or hurricane.

I am a Plutonian.
 

--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 11:13 AM



 




whats your sun sign if you dont mind me asking?

------------------------------
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 11:58 AM EST m_18 wrote:

It's all part of the human experience as well as their own.
 
When a Gemini changes their mind, they will always have a reason that is correct to them.


--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@ wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 10:11 AM



 




I have sun mercury and venus in gemini it can be hard to not scatter myself about lol but its all good. I sometimes wish I atleast had my mercury in taurus or cancer to help me settle down my thoughts etc but meditation helps me become less wishy washy or skiddish.

------------------------------
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 11:40 PM EST m_18 wrote:

Then one has to then see why. Where is the Moon? What is the ascendant? Are there any other planets in Gemini? Etc., etc., etc. Additionally, age matters. We become more like our Sun sign over time. Our Moon tends to rule us as very young children, then the ascendant. Later in life, the Sun as maturity increases individuality (Sun). You are less like the herd. Most young adults think they are all so different, yet peer pressure pushes them to group (herd) confomity. The will even referee each other. Over time, you grow out of that. You stop giving a damn what your friends think of you.
 
I find Geminis to be very intelligent (air), but wish-washy (mutable). They can do a 180 on you in a heartbeat.


--- On Mon, 1/14/13, robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@ wrote:


From: robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 9:36 PM



 



When I was born the sun was 0 degrees in cancer. So technically my sun sign is cancer, but I definitely feel way more Gemini than cancer. Which is strange since because the sun was at the beginning of cancer you would think the cancer influence would be much more strong. Most times I'm really unemotional and logical, but I can be really sensitive at times. I would say from a subjective point of view it feels like a 50-50 split. I feel like I have three personalities. It drives me insane because Gemini is already duel natured then throw in cancer and most of the time I feel like a stranger in my own body.

P.S.: I really had to control myself and try not to start just ranting on this subject. I can talk a subject dry. Yet another Gemini trait when I'm supposedly a cancer.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

 

[m_18]

<td val[/IMG]Regarding astrology. I have been into this for about 25 years. I don't do it everyday. I have never done chart interpretations for others, so if it isn't in my chart or if I haven't read about it, I may not know about it or know enough about it. I am also rare in the sense that I have no retrograde planets in my chart. The nodes are however, retrograde. I tend to only pay attention to my chart for the most part. This could change in the future.

--- On Tue, 1/15/13, ch_3_coo <ch_3_coo@... wrote:

From: ch_3_coo <ch_3_coo@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 6:02 PM

  Oh hey that's why you're good at astrology. Ahead of our time as well don't really fit in with society you know. I have Uranus 6 degrees from the ascendant then Neptune there 4 degrees away doing what Neptune does.
Hitler had 12 house Uranus too, I'd say we're pretty cool then

--- In [[email protected]][email protected][/email], m_18 wrote:

I have Uranus in my 12th H about 10 degrees above my ascendant (wide conjunction), but not close enough to my Pluto to be a conjunction with it.
 
However, there is a power point right above my ascendant where the Uranus-Pluto midpoint conjuncts my Uranus-Ascendant midpoint. This conjunction of 2 midpoints then also have a midpoint.
 
Of course Pluto & my ascendant also have a midpoint that conjuncts each of themselves as they are within 2 degrees of each other.
 

--- On Tue, 1/15/13, ch_3_coo wrote:


From: ch_3_coo
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 4:27 PM



 



Oh cool, I have Moon in Taurus Sun in Virgo, Capricorn rising Saturn in Aquarius, Venus in Libra square Neptune+Uranus both in the 12th conjunct my ascendant. Uranus in the 12th is good for developing psychic ability I guess if you like to freak out and wake up 10 times a night. 90s kids woot

--- In [[email protected]][email protected][/email], Shannon Outlaw wrote:


I also have moon in libra and pisces rising. Mars in aries. My pluto is in less then 1 degree in the ninth house. My pluto is in scorpio.My chart ruler is conjunct uranus. Jupiter my co ruler is unaspected in virgo. Jupiter and virgo are in seventh house.



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 4:56 PM EST Shannon Outlaw wrote:


Nice! I must admit I wish I had some scorpio in my chart though. For obvious reasons pertaining to its intense traits. Like Hp Maxine said mercury in scorpio is a placement for natural mages and or those gifted in controlling their thoughts etc. Oh well.



------------------------------
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 1:09 PM EST m_18 wrote:






I have my Sun at a very late degree of Libra*, cusp of Scorpio**. Moon, Mercury & Neptune in Scorpio. I have Pluto within 2 degrees of my Virgo ascendant. My Merucry & Moon are conjunct.
 
*Libra is cardinal air. Most descriptions of Libra are bullshit. Think tornado, hurricane, etc.
 
** Add water, think waterspout or hurricane.

I am a Plutonian.
 

--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 11:13 AM



 




whats your sun sign if you dont mind me asking?

------------------------------
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 11:58 AM EST m_18 wrote:

It's all part of the human experience as well as their own.
 
When a Gemini changes their mind, they will always have a reason that is correct to them.


--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@ wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 10:11 AM



 




I have sun mercury and venus in gemini it can be hard to not scatter myself about lol but its all good. I sometimes wish I atleast had my mercury in taurus or cancer to help me settle down my thoughts etc but meditation helps me become less wishy washy or skiddish.

------------------------------
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 11:40 PM EST m_18 wrote:

Then one has to then see why. Where is the Moon? What is the ascendant? Are there any other planets in Gemini? Etc., etc., etc. Additionally, age matters. We become more like our Sun sign over time. Our Moon tends to rule us as very young children, then the ascendant. Later in life, the Sun as maturity increases individuality (Sun). You are less like the herd. Most young adults think they are all so different, yet peer pressure pushes them to group (herd) confomity. The will even referee each other. Over time, you grow out of that. You stop giving a damn what your friends think of you.
 
I find Geminis to be very intelligent (air), but wish-washy (mutable). They can do a 180 on you in a heartbeat.


--- On Mon, 1/14/13, robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@ wrote:


From: robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 9:36 PM



 



When I was born the sun was 0 degrees in cancer. So technically my sun sign is cancer, but I definitely feel way more Gemini than cancer. Which is strange since because the sun was at the beginning of cancer you would think the cancer influence would be much more strong. Most times I'm really unemotional and logical, but I can be really sensitive at times. I would say from a subjective point of view it feels like a 50-50 split. I feel like I have three personalities. It drives me insane because Gemini is already duel natured then throw in cancer and most of the time I feel like a stranger in my own body.

P.S.: I really had to control myself and try not to start just ranting on this subject. I can talk a subject dry. Yet another Gemini trait when I'm supposedly a cancer.

--- In [[email protected]][email protected][/email], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

[/TD]

 

[Djinn Draconis]

Shannon, I have a scorpio stellium including mercury which is conjunct pluto and I don't think I have come to the point of controlling my mind any easier than anybody else in terms of visualizing and raising emotions etc. I can control it now but only because I worked at it. But I have noticed in my life, even before I was a Satanist, a lot of the time it feels like other people have more to say than I even have thoughts in my head.

Maybe it does make a natural mage after all we never know how different our own minds are compared to anyone elses for sure.
I definitely think someone who practices regularly will be able to control their mind easier than someone with a scorpio emphasis who doesn't.

On the positive side, you're quite talkative. You always have something to say, your gemini shows up in your posts and you post a lot. Being a good talker gets you far in life. That's the downside of those of us with mercury in scorpio or capricorn we're not so good at conversation.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw wrote:


Nice! I must admit I wish I had some scorpio in my chart though. For obvious reasons pertaining to its intense traits. Like Hp Maxine said mercury in scorpio is a placement for natural mages and or those gifted in controlling their thoughts etc. Oh well.



------------------------------
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 1:09 PM EST m_18 wrote:






I have my Sun at a very late degree of Libra*, cusp of Scorpio**. Moon, Mercury & Neptune in Scorpio. I have Pluto within 2 degrees of my Virgo ascendant. My Merucry & Moon are conjunct.
 
*Libra is cardinal air. Most descriptions of Libra are bullshit. Think tornado, hurricane, etc.
 
** Add water, think waterspout or hurricane.

I am a Plutonian.
 

--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 11:13 AM



 




whats your sun sign if you dont mind me asking?

------------------------------
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 11:58 AM EST m_18 wrote:

It's all part of the human experience as well as their own.
 
When a Gemini changes their mind, they will always have a reason that is correct to them.


--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@... wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@...
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 10:11 AM



 




I have sun mercury and venus in gemini it can be hard to not scatter myself about lol but its all good. I sometimes wish I atleast had my mercury in taurus or cancer to help me settle down my thoughts etc but meditation helps me become less wishy washy or skiddish.

------------------------------
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 11:40 PM EST m_18 wrote:

Then one has to then see why. Where is the Moon? What is the ascendant? Are there any other planets in Gemini? Etc., etc., etc. Additionally, age matters. We become more like our Sun sign over time. Our Moon tends to rule us as very young children, then the ascendant. Later in life, the Sun as maturity increases individuality (Sun). You are less like the herd. Most young adults think they are all so different, yet peer pressure pushes them to group (herd) confomity. The will even referee each other. Over time, you grow out of that. You stop giving a damn what your friends think of you.
 
I find Geminis to be very intelligent (air), but wish-washy (mutable). They can do a 180 on you in a heartbeat.


--- On Mon, 1/14/13, robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@... wrote:


From: robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 9:36 PM



 



When I was born the sun was 0 degrees in cancer. So technically my sun sign is cancer, but I definitely feel way more Gemini than cancer. Which is strange since because the sun was at the beginning of cancer you would think the cancer influence would be much more strong. Most times I'm really unemotional and logical, but I can be really sensitive at times. I would say from a subjective point of view it feels like a 50-50 split. I feel like I have three personalities. It drives me insane because Gemini is already duel natured then throw in cancer and most of the time I feel like a stranger in my own body.

P.S.: I really had to control myself and try not to start just ranting on this subject. I can talk a subject dry. Yet another Gemini trait when I'm supposedly a cancer.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

 

[Shannon Outlaw]

Thanks Djiin I am even more talkative in person but not too the point of annoying someone. My gemini stellium is in my fourth house. Is your stellium in one house?



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On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 4:11 AM EST Djinn Draconis wrote:

Shannon, I have a scorpio stellium including mercury which is conjunct pluto and I don't think I have come to the point of controlling my mind any easier than anybody else in terms of visualizing and raising emotions etc. I can control it now but only because I worked at it. But I have noticed in my life, even before I was a Satanist, a lot of the time it feels like other people have more to say than I even have thoughts in my head.

Maybe it does make a natural mage after all we never know how different our own minds are compared to anyone elses for sure.
I definitely think someone who practices regularly will be able to control their mind easier than someone with a scorpio emphasis who doesn't.

On the positive side, you're quite talkative. You always have something to say, your gemini shows up in your posts and you post a lot. Being a good talker gets you far in life. That's the downside of those of us with mercury in scorpio or capricorn we're not so good at conversation.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw wrote:


Nice! I must admit I wish I had some scorpio in my chart though. For obvious reasons pertaining to its intense traits. Like Hp Maxine said mercury in scorpio is a placement for natural mages and or those gifted in controlling their thoughts etc. Oh well.



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 1:09 PM EST m_18 wrote:






I have my Sun at a very late degree of Libra*, cusp of Scorpio**. Moon, Mercury & Neptune in Scorpio. I have Pluto within 2 degrees of my Virgo ascendant. My Merucry & Moon are conjunct.
 
*Libra is cardinal air. Most descriptions of Libra are bullshit. Think tornado, hurricane, etc.
 
** Add water, think waterspout or hurricane.

I am a Plutonian.
 

--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 11:13 AM



 




whats your sun sign if you dont mind me asking?

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 11:58 AM EST m_18 wrote:

It's all part of the human experience as well as their own.
 
When a Gemini changes their mind, they will always have a reason that is correct to them.


--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@... wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@...
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 10:11 AM



 




I have sun mercury and venus in gemini it can be hard to not scatter myself about lol but its all good. I sometimes wish I atleast had my mercury in taurus or cancer to help me settle down my thoughts etc but meditation helps me become less wishy washy or skiddish.

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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 11:40 PM EST m_18 wrote:

Then one has to then see why. Where is the Moon? What is the ascendant? Are there any other planets in Gemini? Etc., etc., etc. Additionally, age matters. We become more like our Sun sign over time. Our Moon tends to rule us as very young children, then the ascendant. Later in life, the Sun as maturity increases individuality (Sun). You are less like the herd. Most young adults think they are all so different, yet peer pressure pushes them to group (herd) confomity. The will even referee each other. Over time, you grow out of that. You stop giving a damn what your friends think of you.
 
I find Geminis to be very intelligent (air), but wish-washy (mutable). They can do a 180 on you in a heartbeat.


--- On Mon, 1/14/13, robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@... wrote:


From: robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 9:36 PM



 



When I was born the sun was 0 degrees in cancer. So technically my sun sign is cancer, but I definitely feel way more Gemini than cancer. Which is strange since because the sun was at the beginning of cancer you would think the cancer influence would be much more strong. Most times I'm really unemotional and logical, but I can be really sensitive at times. I would say from a subjective point of view it feels like a 50-50 split. I feel like I have three personalities. It drives me insane because Gemini is already duel natured then throw in cancer and most of the time I feel like a stranger in my own body.

P.S.: I really had to control myself and try not to start just ranting on this subject. I can talk a subject dry. Yet another Gemini trait when I'm supposedly a cancer.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

 

[Djinn Draconis]

My mecury, venus, pluto and sun are in the 1st house but jupiter and mars are in the 2nd house, but still in scorpio. How many gemini planets do you have?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw wrote:


Thanks Djiin I am even more talkative in person but not too the point of annoying someone. My gemini stellium is in my fourth house. Is your stellium in one house?



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On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 4:11 AM EST Djinn Draconis wrote:

Shannon, I have a scorpio stellium including mercury which is conjunct pluto and I don't think I have come to the point of controlling my mind any easier than anybody else in terms of visualizing and raising emotions etc. I can control it now but only because I worked at it. But I have noticed in my life, even before I was a Satanist, a lot of the time it feels like other people have more to say than I even have thoughts in my head.

Maybe it does make a natural mage after all we never know how different our own minds are compared to anyone elses for sure.
I definitely think someone who practices regularly will be able to control their mind easier than someone with a scorpio emphasis who doesn't.

On the positive side, you're quite talkative. You always have something to say, your gemini shows up in your posts and you post a lot. Being a good talker gets you far in life. That's the downside of those of us with mercury in scorpio or capricorn we're not so good at conversation.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw wrote:


Nice! I must admit I wish I had some scorpio in my chart though. For obvious reasons pertaining to its intense traits. Like Hp Maxine said mercury in scorpio is a placement for natural mages and or those gifted in controlling their thoughts etc. Oh well.



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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 1:09 PM EST m_18 wrote:






I have my Sun at a very late degree of Libra*, cusp of Scorpio**. Moon, Mercury & Neptune in Scorpio. I have Pluto within 2 degrees of my Virgo ascendant. My Merucry & Moon are conjunct.
 
*Libra is cardinal air. Most descriptions of Libra are bullshit. Think tornado, hurricane, etc.
 
** Add water, think waterspout or hurricane.

I am a Plutonian.
 

--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 11:13 AM



 




whats your sun sign if you dont mind me asking?

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 11:58 AM EST m_18 wrote:

It's all part of the human experience as well as their own.
 
When a Gemini changes their mind, they will always have a reason that is correct to them.


--- On Tue, 1/15/13, Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@ wrote:


From: Shannon Outlaw soutlaw92@
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 10:11 AM



 




I have sun mercury and venus in gemini it can be hard to not scatter myself about lol but its all good. I sometimes wish I atleast had my mercury in taurus or cancer to help me settle down my thoughts etc but meditation helps me become less wishy washy or skiddish.

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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 11:40 PM EST m_18 wrote:

Then one has to then see why. Where is the Moon? What is the ascendant? Are there any other planets in Gemini? Etc., etc., etc. Additionally, age matters. We become more like our Sun sign over time. Our Moon tends to rule us as very young children, then the ascendant. Later in life, the Sun as maturity increases individuality (Sun). You are less like the herd. Most young adults think they are all so different, yet peer pressure pushes them to group (herd) confomity. The will even referee each other. Over time, you grow out of that. You stop giving a damn what your friends think of you.
 
I find Geminis to be very intelligent (air), but wish-washy (mutable). They can do a 180 on you in a heartbeat.


--- On Mon, 1/14/13, robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@ wrote:


From: robot_checkerboard13 robot_checkerboard13@
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: cusps
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 9:36 PM



 



When I was born the sun was 0 degrees in cancer. So technically my sun sign is cancer, but I definitely feel way more Gemini than cancer. Which is strange since because the sun was at the beginning of cancer you would think the cancer influence would be much more strong. Most times I'm really unemotional and logical, but I can be really sensitive at times. I would say from a subjective point of view it feels like a 50-50 split. I feel like I have three personalities. It drives me insane because Gemini is already duel natured then throw in cancer and most of the time I feel like a stranger in my own body.

P.S.: I really had to control myself and try not to start just ranting on this subject. I can talk a subject dry. Yet another Gemini trait when I'm supposedly a cancer.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

 

[hp.2297]

That is really interesting that you have qualities of both Aries and Taurus. I don't think it works with houses though. My sun (26°20' 6" Taurus) is just barely in my 12th house (26° 7'57" Taurus) yet my sun feels and operates very much in a 12th house kind of way. I do really wish though that I could have enjoyed qualities of both the 11th and 12th house suns.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hoodedcobra666" wrote:

I have a very important planet of my chart in 29'** something degrees between Aries and Taurus. This makes me have both qualities of the planet in both positons. I can call in whatever one I want, with a little tendency on Aries. As I grown up and matured up, the Taurean side came into play and balanced me off. For instance in my walking life I am more like a Taurean, that is I can greatly focus if I set on, like in meditation. Yet other areas the Planet rules are more Aries prone. This planet is inconjuct to Pluto, which is too on 0 degrees between two signs. Which is very good as I can 'dabble' so to say between the natures of those. And an important placement in Gemini which helps me differientate between the two and fuses them, sort of. Gemini in some cases can be a blessing as the individual can swing off through their one and other 'side', since gemini is dualistic.

Due to the opposite natures of Aries and Taurus (one is always in need of change etc, Taurus is stable and set) I can understand both ways of what the planet rules and is for. Pluto on the 0 degrees puts me as an intermediate between two generations or something. For instance my Pluto is 0 degrees to Saggi. Sometimes I act like a Pluto in Scorpio [More rarely], very explosively and I have the Pluto in Scorpio traits submerged with Pluto in Saggitarius. Since one rules psychic knowledge and the other one rules religion etc, this is great. But sometimes I feel 'lost' in between these and if I try to sit down and really find out what I am for, one or another- I really cannot. I would say both and that be the only explanation. When I was less mature spiritually, my Aries side of the planet did show up. I was more all out. Then after a year or two this seems to be changing into something better, yet retaining the originality of the placements. I think this shows how really deep the art of astrology is and seeing that way, its extremely precise for me and easily understandable, moreso than before I took this into consideration. Now don't think this is SO powerful, but definitely plays a role. Its like a 'tint' of the next sign, a hue of it.

But if we said that applies, I would say roughly on the 27th degree and after...But this is my opinion...Maybe even 28th half.

HAIL SATAN!!!!!!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?

 

[Djinn Draconis]

Yup. The houses pretty much represent events and circumstances in your life not personality traits but sometimes they do.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hp.2297" wrote:

That is really interesting that you have qualities of both Aries and Taurus. I don't think it works with houses though. My sun (26°20' 6" Taurus) is just barely in my 12th house (26° 7'57" Taurus) yet my sun feels and operates very much in a 12th house kind of way. I do really wish though that I could have enjoyed qualities of both the 11th and 12th house suns.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hoodedcobra666" wrote:

I have a very important planet of my chart in 29'** something degrees between Aries and Taurus. This makes me have both qualities of the planet in both positons. I can call in whatever one I want, with a little tendency on Aries. As I grown up and matured up, the Taurean side came into play and balanced me off. For instance in my walking life I am more like a Taurean, that is I can greatly focus if I set on, like in meditation. Yet other areas the Planet rules are more Aries prone. This planet is inconjuct to Pluto, which is too on 0 degrees between two signs. Which is very good as I can 'dabble' so to say between the natures of those. And an important placement in Gemini which helps me differientate between the two and fuses them, sort of. Gemini in some cases can be a blessing as the individual can swing off through their one and other 'side', since gemini is dualistic.

Due to the opposite natures of Aries and Taurus (one is always in need of change etc, Taurus is stable and set) I can understand both ways of what the planet rules and is for. Pluto on the 0 degrees puts me as an intermediate between two generations or something. For instance my Pluto is 0 degrees to Saggi. Sometimes I act like a Pluto in Scorpio [More rarely], very explosively and I have the Pluto in Scorpio traits submerged with Pluto in Saggitarius. Since one rules psychic knowledge and the other one rules religion etc, this is great. But sometimes I feel 'lost' in between these and if I try to sit down and really find out what I am for, one or another- I really cannot. I would say both and that be the only explanation. When I was less mature spiritually, my Aries side of the planet did show up. I was more all out. Then after a year or two this seems to be changing into something better, yet retaining the originality of the placements. I think this shows how really deep the art of astrology is and seeing that way, its extremely precise for me and easily understandable, moreso than before I took this into consideration. Now don't think this is SO powerful, but definitely plays a role. Its like a 'tint' of the next sign, a hue of it.

But if we said that applies, I would say roughly on the 27th degree and after...But this is my opinion...Maybe even 28th half.

HAIL SATAN!!!!!!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" wrote:

I was wondering what everyones opinions are about cusps. Like if you're born May 21 and your Sun is 0 degrees in Gemini, would the solar traits you exhibit be completely Gemini in nature with no Taurus whatsoever? Or would the nature be mostly Gemini with some Taurus?