A few questions for the group...???

[willlovelaw]

Greetings everyone,

I began my magickal training within the GD current years ago and then moved into Thelema years later. I am now working something somewhat of my own current. BUT, as and example, I read things on blacksun666.com, I find some similar conclusions which I came to also concerning the Jewish and Christian elements in European Witchcraft and Magick.

My question is: What type of rituals does one work if we take out all of the qabalistic/Gnostic (many times Christian) elements which are inherent in many things such as the LBRP, QBL Cross of Light, etc.

What are the appropriate substitues for the Tetragrammaton YHVH ,etc.

Now, I realize Crowley already began re-creating some of these rituals as in the Star Ruby, etc. But I am asking about more contemporary rituals from a modern satanists point of view. And not so much looking for the Satanic Bible and Ritual book as I am not sure Lavey knew much about the deeper aspects of Magick and Kabbalah. Everything in Wesern Mystery Tradition Magick is seemingly based upon the Tree of Life, etc. Whare is the alternative? I mean I have spent years working with this glyph. You guys get what I'm saying???

Any book recommendations or general websites to find such rituals, even a complete system which is comparable to the OTO or AA?

Thanks in advance,

-William

 

[acid312]

Well if you read the pages below from the JoS site its obvious how Satanism predates xianity. Satan is Enki and the Baphomet is the Egyptian Goat of Mendes. The word Satan is also of Sanskrit origin. The serpent equated to Satan is the bible is a well known and sacred symbol in ancient religions, the kundalini serpent.

http://www.freewebs.com/eridu666/Origins.html
http://www.666blacksun.com/Satanism_Eastern_Origins.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Goat.html
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... homet.html
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... rpent.html
http://www.666blacksun.com/Exposing_Corruption.html
http://www.666blacksun.com/Desecration.html
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ptOne.html
http://www.666blacksun.com/Temple_of_Solomon.html

As about the system of magick, the original Egyptian ka-ba-ankh was stolen and corrupted by the jews and made into the jewish kabala. You should use the methods from the JoS site for working with Goetic Demos, summoning them through Satan without circles and triangles and disrespectful invocations like commanding and forcing them. As about how we work with the Satanic version of the kabala, this is again in the JoS page below. YHVH is replaced with ENKI, the true uncorrupted tetragrammation, hebrew letters are replaced with runes and the jewish tree of life with the Yggdrasil, the Norse tree of Life:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... brary.html

But the main things you should use are power meditations. If you do them regularly you'll have strong spiritual powers so you won't need to do as many rituals, your powers will do everything you desire.

Hail Enki!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "willlovelaw" <willlovelaw@... wrote:

Greetings everyone,

I began my magickal training within the GD current years ago and then moved into Thelema years later. I am now working something somewhat of my own current. BUT, as and example, I read things on blacksun666.com, I find some similar conclusions which I came to also concerning the Jewish and Christian elements in European Witchcraft and Magick.

My question is: What type of rituals does one work if we take out all of the qabalistic/Gnostic (many times Christian) elements which are inherent in many things such as the LBRP, QBL Cross of Light, etc.

What are the appropriate substitues for the Tetragrammaton YHVH ,etc.

Now, I realize Crowley already began re-creating some of these rituals as in the Star Ruby, etc. But I am asking about more contemporary rituals from a modern satanists point of view. And not so much looking for the Satanic Bible and Ritual book as I am not sure Lavey knew much about the deeper aspects of Magick and Kabbalah. Everything in Wesern Mystery Tradition Magick is seemingly based upon the Tree of Life, etc. Whare is the alternative? I mean I have spent years working with this glyph. You guys get what I'm saying???

Any book recommendations or general websites to find such rituals, even a complete system which is comparable to the OTO or AA?

Thanks in advance,

-William

 

[whitefalconlittlefalcon21]

look up gaelic god...
crazy mythology of course hence thats all left hence this debate goes on..

p.s druid mythology will help this confliction too,


well all i can say it disd for me

a good tip, is stop learning from a world turned so cold and so stubborn....a WORLD FULL OF BULLSHIT AND PROPAGANDA...

turn toward yourself you may find yourself...


reminds me of zen...
eh, t5rhink it through to the very end...

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "willlovelaw" <willlovelaw@... wrote:

Greetings everyone,

I began my magickal training within the GD current years ago and then moved into Thelema years later. I am now working something somewhat of my own current. BUT, as and example, I read things on blacksun666.com, I find some similar conclusions which I came to also concerning the Jewish and Christian elements in European Witchcraft and Magick.

My question is: What type of rituals does one work if we take out all of the qabalistic/Gnostic (many times Christian) elements which are inherent in many things such as the LBRP, QBL Cross of Light, etc.

What are the appropriate substitues for the Tetragrammaton YHVH ,etc.

Now, I realize Crowley already began re-creating some of these rituals as in the Star Ruby, etc. But I am asking about more contemporary rituals from a modern satanists point of view. And not so much looking for the Satanic Bible and Ritual book as I am not sure Lavey knew much about the deeper aspects of Magick and Kabbalah. Everything in Wesern Mystery Tradition Magick is seemingly based upon the Tree of Life, etc. Whare is the alternative? I mean I have spent years working with this glyph. You guys get what I'm saying???

Any book recommendations or general websites to find such rituals, even a complete system which is comparable to the OTO or AA?

Thanks in advance,

-William