Relationships #935 So Should I just avoid this Woman?

[AskSatanOperator]

I was looking at the Birth chart of a woman I was interested in and I noticed a lot of crazy things going on in her chart. She has literally PERFECT love and sex synastry with me but there is one MAJOR flaw in this chart.

Although she has perfect love and sex synastry (My mars is in exact aspect with her Venus, Her Sun is in tight conjunction with my Venus, Our Moons are Aspecting Each other's Sun, Her venus is also in tight conjunction with my natal DC, the list can go on) There is one problem here that drives me away: Her Saturn is conjunct with my chart ruler, and this woman is also a Scorpio ascendant, with both her Pluto and Mars in tight aspect with my chart ruler as well.

Is there a chance that this woman might become obsessed with me in a way that causes harm? Our Pluto's and Venus' dont aspect each other to cause 'fatal attraction' in that manner, but still her Pluto (chart ruler) and Mars (Co-ruler) are both tightly aspecting my Ruler, along with her Saturn. Sounds like a deadly combo.

I don't obsess over this woman but she is very attractive to me and I was about to start doing small love workings here and there before I looked at her birth chart and saw all these things. Should I just try to avoid this woman?
Sucks because she's beautiful.

 

[Henu the Great]

Is it worth the risk? There are many more beautiful women on this planet.

 

[AFODO]

Just do the love spell and try not to think about her in the process (so that you don't accidentally attract her specifically). Anyways, if you do the spell right, and you end up with her, than it's fine.

 

[Henu the Great]

Just do the love spell and try not to think about her in the process (so that you don't accidentally attract her specifically). Anyways, if you do the spell right, and you end up with her, than it's fine.

I don't know about that. It's a heavy promise considering those malefic aspects...

 

[DarkPagan666]

Listen, if you’re feeling wary enough to pause and consider avoiding her, listen to your intuition. The chart indicates strong chemistry and a magnetic pull, but there are definitely red flags for power struggles and/or over-intensity here.

With her Saturn conjunct your chart ruler, she may make you feel overly judged, restricted, or even demands that you're under pressure to meet her standards. With her Pluto and Mars tightly aspecting your chart ruler, she might even have an unconscious (or conscious) need to influence or control the relationship, and you. With other words, her Pluto and Mars on your chart ruler combined with Saturn's influence therein, might create a mix of obsession and control. This can create strife, and become fatal.

You are better off. If I were in your position, I’d seek out someone else and prioritize a connection that feels healthier and more balanced. This can thankfully be achieved through magick (links below):

Freeing the Soul - [A wise choice to clear any lingering negative karma related to love and relationships, which paves the way for healthier, and more fulfilling connections with a truly compatible partner in the future].

Love Spell

 

[RazorTongue]

I'm just going to openly talk about this on a throwaway account. I'm the one who asked this question and I was looking deeper into this womans chart and there are also other big things happening in her chart. Her saturn is also in a loose sextile with my Uranus as well.

A scary thing about all of this is that my own Saturn is NOT aspecting anything she has, period. I have no brakes to stop this woman astrologically if she becomes obsessed with me, other than using magic to keep her away. My pluto is aspecting some of her planets though thats about it.

 

[Engineered Trasformation]

La Femme Fatale!
If you are looking for a relationship that will change yourself by crumbling your essence and making you weak (Saturn on Chart Ruler) and re-building yourself (Pluto energies) after a painful love experience, this may be the case.
I would seriously consider asking your GD or a Demon with a Ritual, about the possible dangers of this kind of relationship.
This can be a challenge or a curse for you - I cannot see more than this.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

La Femme Fatale!
If you are looking for a relationship that will change yourself by crumbling your essence and making you weak (Saturn on Chart Ruler) and re-building yourself (Pluto energies) after a painful love experience, this may be the case.
I would seriously consider asking your GD or a Demon with a Ritual, about the possible dangers of this kind of relationship.
This can be a challenge or a curse for you - I cannot see more than this.

The classic “Character development” girlfriend.

Well, it’s Winter Arc after all

 

[Karnonnos [TG]]

I was looking at the Birth chart of a woman I was interested in and I noticed a lot of crazy things going on in her chart. She has literally PERFECT love and sex synastry with me but there is one MAJOR flaw in this chart.

Although she has perfect love and sex synastry (My mars is in exact aspect with her Venus, Her Sun is in tight conjunction with my Venus, Our Moons are Aspecting Each other's Sun, Her venus is also in tight conjunction with my natal DC, the list can go on) There is one problem here that drives me away: Her Saturn is conjunct with my chart ruler, and this woman is also a Scorpio ascendant, with both her Pluto and Mars in tight aspect with my chart ruler as well.

Is there a chance that this woman might become obsessed with me in a way that causes harm? Our Pluto's and Venus' dont aspect each other to cause 'fatal attraction' in that manner, but still her Pluto (chart ruler) and Mars (Co-ruler) are both tightly aspecting my Ruler, along with her Saturn. Sounds like a deadly combo.

I don't obsess over this woman but she is very attractive to me and I was about to start doing small love workings here and there before I looked at her birth chart and saw all these things. Should I just try to avoid this woman?
Sucks because she's beautiful.

There is a risk with this. Saturn conjunct Chart Ruler can create a lot of problems. Watch out.

I have personal experience of this. Even with the trine, a particularly malevolent example is the actress Natalie Wood, her husband Robert Wagner's Saturn had a trine to her Chart Ruler and he greatly destabilized her.

This can include her hurting you by accident or you annoying her to great extents or even you being so harsh to her down the line she decides to do something stupid (never unlikely with so much Mars/Pluto), or vice versa. If you decide to go with her, make sure your AoP is irontight and don't be delusional, don't be a sucker.

Are there aspects (conjunctions) to her or your North/South Nodes? This can indicate a past life connection. Unfortunately, Saturn against the ruler can be common with this - which is why we warn people against being too doe-eyed about soulmates.

 

[Edward Lonsa]

Greetings!

I am sorry for being too late as usual, but I consider here is something very important no one never mention yet explaining a lot at least to me.

Only one question:

I don't obsess over this woman but she is very attractive to me and I was about to start doing small love workings here and there before I looked at her birth chart and saw all these things. Should I just try to avoid this woman?

Did you ask her permission on doing any magic workings on her except white ones? If not, then you are very welcome to the Saturn+Pluto+Mars-on-your-CR relationship.

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So today they force relations on people against their will behind their back. Then in the next life they ask why something is forced on them. I in no way meant guessing past lives game such as finger pointing these or those people to be this or that in past lives, what I mean is that Ask-Satan cleared up that we have obvious problem of mass abuse of Gods' knowledge. One people come and ask how to force others into their ends (never caring to ask any consent, wonder if even asked any consent on looking at the natal chart at all) suddenly notice a "New Year's gift" in their synastry. This gift probably will affect their Chakras they think, yet they never care how their coercive magic will affect the Chakras of their victim. Other people come and ask how to stop being forced into everyone's else's ends, and which Chakras deal with it. Then some Chakras and some Astrological situation found out to be involved, repeating 2-3d Chakras pattern i.e. lower octave dominance+egocentrism problem culminating at some nasty Leo degree in one of reincarnations.

I personally heard of a lot of deaths and diseases with misuse of xian or other non-ToZ black love magic, actually never ending with any real love.

I understand that unlike that ToZ magic is professional, but just ask yourself: do you want to be forced behind your back by those more adept than you into their own egocentric ends? Does it just fit well with you? Then, when your love life is in their hands, and if your love seems still not enough to them, they proceed with more and more of this magic probably affecting your next lives as well. Then after they had it enough, despite of how you love, you just get magically asked to go to hell (probably with your children you got from this person). So your love life is just decided for you by those more adept in magic for this and maybe all other lives, without clues to even heal or cleanse it since their methods are stronger than your knowledge. Your Chakras (exactly these 2-3d ones btw) are attached, detached and sealed around at will.

Or for example imagine: you have karmic debt before a person and justice tells to pay, yet your lower ego "wants to be loved" by them. Loved for what? For the evil you did against them in the past? Or for nothing good you did for them today? How such magic is going to work out?

The above is just an example, yet who knows, the provided synastry is quiet outstanding and invoked such thoughts on all material I have analyzed to this moment. Wonder what is on the Nodes...

As for Saturn-CR conjunct, I can relate that not only 10 degree orb but actually even 11 degree orb might make some impact, maybe not as much as that of 1-2 orb, of course, but still. I saw beautiful Saturn-CR cases involving extreme love and care from the part of Saturn. These were very rare special people, one in billion, specifically created for that. This is seen in their own chart - they use their Saturn for these very goals - to care, protect and take full responsibility even accepting death for the other (this was trine), though healthy criticism and guidance is in 100% cases present, as well as trying to "build" another. But what is important to understand with this is that people use their planets and charts for absolutely different goals. This depends upon the person. One can kill with it, other can save with it and take full responsibility for all sins of the loved one into themselves, literally suck their bad karma out into themselves and carry it into the grave (I saw such case, this had other factors to prove it). Love can be insane and can be totally absent. In andrapoda case it is mostly the "Standard Saturn" case providing you your karmic due through the "puppet of fate". This depends upon how people use their planets on the universe.